Also a massive difference between the two is the defence they’re facing. Tatum is getting double or even tripled every time he drives, but Kyrie is one-on-one on most of his possessions
@@socialistbatman1211 No one needs to, but why are people going after Tatum, who's on the winning team, because he's not putting up 30 lol. It's that he's getting heat, but Kyrie is playing like dookie and losing, but gets a pass. And I don't even understand the "revenge" for Kyrie. He's the one who left Boston. No one traded him lol
If the Celtics end up winning this series brad stevens deserves a statue. Him getting two all defensive guards in derrick white and jrue holiday basically for free will go down as some of the best trades in nba history.
@@espncooper6868 It was a 3 team trade they received 2 first round picks along with Tingus. I thought they got them from the Wizards but they got the picks from the Grizzlies
I don't get why these bums hate Tatum. He has 18 pts 13 assists and 9 rebs, almost a triple-double. 6 of his assists went straight to Jrue, that makes up 12 of his 26 points. Yet y'all still hating the guy for making the right reads? Yes, his shots are not falling but he is playing super solid in defense and even guarding Dallas' centers to eliminate the lob threats. You want the old Tatum who scores 30 a game and loses the series? LUL
I hate to tell you, but that's not "old Tatum." That's just what happens when he plays his best ball and the narrative that if your best player plays like your best player that the rest of the team can't eat is just wrong. Luca was feeding his teammates the whole second half and you seen what happened didn't you?
can the “series doesn’t start til road team wins” motto be retired, home court doesn’t mean much anymore and anyone who picked the mavs won’t honestly tell you they were comfortable going down 2-0.
This maybe a hot take but rn I still think Tatum is going to get FMVP though he isn’t shooting well he is doing literally everything else it’s only his shot that has not fallen and if in games 3 and 4+ his shot begins to fall it should be an easy choice
I think this Tatum performance is similar to Lebron in his first finals in Miami. He wasn’t necessarily bad overall but the shots aren’t falling. Difference is this Celtics team is perfectly constructed to allow the pressure to come off his shoulders.
The Mavs win condition is very easy. If Kyrie goes and gets the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow it will reverse Lucky’s curse and they’ll have a chance again!
Luka drops 32 in single coverage all night with no defense he’s a killer… Tatum a puts up 18 getting double and triple teamed all night with great defense clutch rebounds and steals late in the game and he gets crushed 😂
So happy people are seeing what’s really happening. If you leave it up to Tatum haters, Tatum just can’t score because he sucks. They literally send 3 people at him if he looks at the ball!
Yall blitzed luka multiples times during the game. No tatum is not getting double or triple teamed every time he touches the ball bro was just bricking 1/7 from three. Can't say we did better tho lol.
@@thingumajiger3289Luka was only doubled when he tried to switch onto Horford and Tatum was the only one who ever saw triple teams when driving to the paint
Yep it's a little difficult to be the best player on the court offensively and play like a generational talent on defense as well. Take one give one and I can live with that. I don't expect him to soar over people for blocks that's Gafford and Lively's jobs, and I also don't expect him to lob the ball to himself. And let me rephrase your comment for you. Luca had 1 assist and 30 points in game 1 while Tatum had 16 points and 6 turnovers. Luca had 8 turnovers, 22 assist and rebounds combined and scored 32 points last night and in these last 2 games he's had 6 steals and 12 turnovers while Tatum over the last 2 games has 8 turnovers and 1 steal. Idk you tell me🤷♂️
Love the video P! As a Celtics fan first and a basketball fan second, Luka had an incredible game that really made me feel like we were losing this game but the scoreboard never reflected it and that shocked me! I read your tweet at half time and felt the exact same way cause it felt like they had played an amazing game at that point. All that to say, that as a Celtics fan Id love to see Boston go into Dallas and win the next 2 games but as a BASKETBALL FAN it would be really exciting to see Luka and the Mavs win them as well!
I knew Celtics would win when we was up 3 at the half and played HORRIBLE! It’s the defense! Even if we can’t score we don’t lose our defensive energy!
The mavs did some adjustments, they attack KP by clearing out the strong side so the Celtics can’t pre switch, and they also run a couple of double drags. But overall the Celtics just have too many good defenders and not like the wolves, they also have really high defensive awareness
Gobert, Conley and Anderson are the only guys who have good awareness about what’s going on the defensive side, Ant, Mac and kat are good on ball defenders and can hold their own against isolations, but they often sleep on off ball movements, and constantly match the wrong guy in early offensive, and Gobert has to clean their shit up
not sure how we can say luka is having a phenomenal series when he is getting cooked on defense literally every single possession. idk why as nba fans we care only about offensive but it makes no sense. luka turned the ball over 8 times and i couldn’t even tell you the amount of points he gave up tonight. how is that a phenomenal performance?
Luka did not outplay the jays. He out SCORED them. Tatum had more real rebounds. More assists and ELITE defence. Expect you to know there’s more to ball than points.
Jayson Tatum is truly a complete basketball player. i never realised he was this great until this playoffs. This man impacts the game without making shots. Luka is too bad defensively for me to care about any points he scores. His man walks right by him and that leads to the open looks. Can't make excuses for that when you lose and he keeps getting ripped or throwing wild passes.
To me from watching, I’d say if the Celtics close it out, Tatum would be my choice for MVP! Everything is going through him for the Celtics offense and making the right play! His assists don’t tell the whole story either because of the hockey assists/extra passes! Now hopefully we will see a couple of better scoring games (since that’s all that seems to matter to some). But the Celtics have been amazing
You show that you don't have to like the celtics and you don't just have to be a hater you're a real basketball viewer and analyst The Numbers on the Board gang knows ball respect P
This is Lukas first finals. If they lose. Going into the off season and off seasons to come, with the right organizational moves, they’ll be back. Celtics had there attempts at a championship and they’ve made the right structural changes and this will be in their favor. Luka will be back in the finals. Every dog will have their day and right now it’s just the Celtics turn
Like you said it's just a such a small margin for error, and I agree that Luka has had some pretty lackluster defense. But like you said I can't really fault him since he's 95% of the offense at the moment and I just don't know how you expect him to give that kind of effort both ways for more then a quarter before he's exhausted. Think he needs to work on stamina this off season so that it isn't as much of an issue going forward. Truth be told if role players on Dallas have another lackluster shooting performance id say fuck it and let Luka take all the shots just to see what happens cause they've been a let down completely so far from the 3 point line
Its never too much to ask a guy to play defense. No one cares how big your load is on offense. Basketball is not just offense and THEY DO NOT have a chance if guys keep letting the Celtics walk right by him. Luka can score as much as he wants, but when you start turning the ball over so much and you don't get a single stop, or even care to try, you wont win. In what world do guys win championships with their best players not playing a lick of defense?
Yea they always do this when they play the mavs and Luka knows it! You can tell he’s not joking around no more or talking crap to any of the Celtics players. He knows he’s in for a longggggg series! Celtics don’t give you a second to breathe! I’m a Celtics fan, I know how bad they want this!! JB officially became the vocal leader Smart used to be! Tatum is the best player but he’s not the leader type. He just wants to ball! 😂
Luka shouldn't get Finals MVP either. He has been horrible on defense. He doesn't even rotate when he gets beat off the dribble. He gives up damn near as much points as he scores.
That Low tweet was dumb Lebron exist and its a shame Luka can get 1 or 2 bitw but its to much to ask to not be a 0 on defense. Our standards have fell or bitw you just have to be a super good offensive player and they will ignore the other side.
If Tatum could clean up his diets of side step threes and turnaround fadeaway jumpers(the difficult shit) and drove more, threw up floaters, and some on balance paint jumpers. man there is no way he could continue to be this inefficient. Sometimes you gotta zip up the "bag" and get back to basics.
@@cronggpal I made it a point to only focus on his SCORING. He is doing damn near everything else for the team. Hard defense, play making, grabbing boards, I watched the games. He is shooting like shit. That is pretty much the only thing one can complain about. He is doing himself no favors with some of them high difficulty shots he is taking. That is a fact.
@@ricy802imo it’s just his 3 balls. He’s gonna take a few bad mid range faders…I wish he wouldn’t lol but he’s earned that. If he could just shoot around 35% from 3, he’d be shooting closer to 50% averaging almost a triple double. I honestly couldn’t care less how we win though…so long as we win lol
@@ricy802bro he usually hits those shots easy! Those aren’t hard shots for him! Mavs just Sending 3 people on him and it’s bothering him of course! Tatum can go off any second and he’s due for a big game! Those type of games where he can’t miss. That’s when he’s really scary
@@cvgodd1432 maybe I'm overreacting, but it would be nice to see him ease up when those shots arent falling and stepping back into them when he is back in his groove. But yes they are keying on him HEAVY.
But what happened with all the narratives against them lol they can't say anything about road games now they been great on the road compared to Dallas at home lets see if they even mention that lol
i don’t think Maxi Kleber could be on the floor, that big shoulder brace coming off injury and being left open to not convert is killin his mental imo. If he can’t stretch the floor he’s a non factor
Dallas is over helping. They need to employ the method Boston is on Luka and everyone else. They’re making Luka the scorer and limiting everyone else. Dallas needs to do that with Tatum or Brown. Just choose and let them play one on one. Boston is beating Dallas with the pass. Not the shooting
Luca had 1 assist and 30 points in game 1 while Tatum had 16 points and 6 turnovers. Luca had 8 turnovers, 22 assist and rebounds combined and scored 32 points last night and in these last 2 games he's had 6 steals and 12 turnovers while Tatum over the last 2 games has 8 turnovers and 1 steal. Idk you tell me🤷♂️
How can we say luka us the best player on the court, when he's the one giving up all the points the Cs are picking on him like a high school bully. Guy cani guard anyone but Payton Pitchard. James harden us a better defender
Luka is not the best player, scoring points is not all.. defense and playmaking. Luka did better game 2 but had 1 assists game 1.. and 8 TO game 2.. DEFENSE WINS CHAMPIONSHIPS or stat padding guys like James Harden would have a ring
People keep saying tatum can shoot bad but still be up like the reason his teammates are shooting well is cause he is being triple teamed meaning it’s 2 vs 4
Ky should be getting bashed worse than Tatum cuz at least Tatum is rebounding, defending, and playmaking
Also a massive difference between the two is the defence they’re facing. Tatum is getting double or even tripled every time he drives, but Kyrie is one-on-one on most of his possessions
Ky has been almost a no show these last two games which sucks to say.
why does anyone need to be bashed over basketball?
@@socialistbatman1211 No one needs to, but why are people going after Tatum, who's on the winning team, because he's not putting up 30 lol. It's that he's getting heat, but Kyrie is playing like dookie and losing, but gets a pass. And I don't even understand the "revenge" for Kyrie. He's the one who left Boston. No one traded him lol
Yes but most ppl stay on their knees for Kyrie cause of his handles and it’s more flashy and fun to watch
Jrue's a walking Bucket! Shoutout to Kenny! 😂
KB walking into the studio with the biggest grin on Tuesday
Came looking for this comment
If the Celtics end up winning this series brad stevens deserves a statue. Him getting two all defensive guards in derrick white and jrue holiday basically for free will go down as some of the best trades in nba history.
And Tingus + first round picks from Wizards. Talk about a fleece 😭
@@imnotblindbutiloveblindfol8449we didnt give them 1sts stop spreading misinformation.
@@espncooper6868 It was a 3 team trade they received 2 first round picks along with Tingus. I thought they got them from the Wizards but they got the picks from the Grizzlies
@@espncooper6868We didn't give 2 picks, we received them.
@@espncooper6868”stop spreading misinformation” -☝️🤓
next vid: "The Tatum game"only a matter of time he gets off
I don't get why these bums hate Tatum. He has 18 pts 13 assists and 9 rebs, almost a triple-double. 6 of his assists went straight to Jrue, that makes up 12 of his 26 points. Yet y'all still hating the guy for making the right reads? Yes, his shots are not falling but he is playing super solid in defense and even guarding Dallas' centers to eliminate the lob threats. You want the old Tatum who scores 30 a game and loses the series? LUL
I hate to tell you, but that's not "old Tatum." That's just what happens when he plays his best ball and the narrative that if your best player plays like your best player that the rest of the team can't eat is just wrong. Luca was feeding his teammates the whole second half and you seen what happened didn't you?
@@dreytonstrickland6302they lost
HES A BUCKET P 😂😂😂
Tatum shot will fall I trust him. He’s averaging 17 10 and 9 it’s literally the shot that is the only problem
JRUE IS A BUCKET CONFIRMED 🤣
can the “series doesn’t start til road team wins” motto be retired, home court doesn’t mean much anymore and anyone who picked the mavs won’t honestly tell you they were comfortable going down 2-0.
This maybe a hot take but rn I still think Tatum is going to get FMVP though he isn’t shooting well he is doing literally everything else it’s only his shot that has not fallen and if in games 3 and 4+ his shot begins to fall it should be an easy choice
I think this Tatum performance is similar to Lebron in his first finals in Miami. He wasn’t necessarily bad overall but the shots aren’t falling. Difference is this Celtics team is perfectly constructed to allow the pressure to come off his shoulders.
Nah, dude. Lebron didn’t shoot super poorly like Tatum has so far….he was just terrified to shoot at all.
Nah, Lebron was being super passive and unengaged, Tatum is attacking the rim almost everytime he gets the ball and making the right plays
stop it bron was scared as hell to shoot lol
The Mavs win condition is very easy. If Kyrie goes and gets the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow it will reverse Lucky’s curse and they’ll have a chance again!
Or just play like he did a few weeks ago against the wolf's and go off for 36 points. Wait wasn't that a home game?
Luka drops 32 in single coverage all night with no defense he’s a killer… Tatum a puts up 18 getting double and triple teamed all night with great defense clutch rebounds and steals late in the game and he gets crushed 😂
So happy people are seeing what’s really happening. If you leave it up to Tatum haters, Tatum just can’t score because he sucks. They literally send 3 people at him if he looks at the ball!
Yall blitzed luka multiples times during the game. No tatum is not getting double or triple teamed every time he touches the ball bro was just bricking 1/7 from three. Can't say we did better tho lol.
@@thingumajiger3289Luka was only doubled when he tried to switch onto Horford and Tatum was the only one who ever saw triple teams when driving to the paint
Love your analysis P. Even if the Celtics aren’t your favorite team like they are mine I appreciate your fair minded approach! You the goat!
This is instantly one of my fav hoop talk channels
Luka is not having a generational series tho. He s been abysmal at defense and had 1 assist in Game 1 and 8 turnovers in Game 2
Yep it's a little difficult to be the best player on the court offensively and play like a generational talent on defense as well. Take one give one and I can live with that. I don't expect him to soar over people for blocks that's Gafford and Lively's jobs, and I also don't expect him to lob the ball to himself. And let me rephrase your comment for you. Luca had 1 assist and 30 points in game 1 while Tatum had 16 points and 6 turnovers. Luca had 8 turnovers, 22 assist and rebounds combined and scored 32 points last night and in these last 2 games he's had 6 steals and 12 turnovers while Tatum over the last 2 games has 8 turnovers and 1 steal. Idk you tell me🤷♂️
Love the video P! As a Celtics fan first and a basketball fan second, Luka had an incredible game that really made me feel like we were losing this game but the scoreboard never reflected it and that shocked me! I read your tweet at half time and felt the exact same way cause it felt like they had played an amazing game at that point. All that to say, that as a Celtics fan Id love to see Boston go into Dallas and win the next 2 games but as a BASKETBALL FAN it would be really exciting to see Luka and the Mavs win them as well!
I knew Celtics would win when we was up 3 at the half and played HORRIBLE! It’s the defense! Even if we can’t score we don’t lose our defensive energy!
The mavs did some adjustments, they attack KP by clearing out the strong side so the Celtics can’t pre switch, and they also run a couple of double drags. But overall the Celtics just have too many good defenders and not like the wolves, they also have really high defensive awareness
Gobert, Conley and Anderson are the only guys who have good awareness about what’s going on the defensive side, Ant, Mac and kat are good on ball defenders and can hold their own against isolations, but they often sleep on off ball movements, and constantly match the wrong guy in early offensive, and Gobert has to clean their shit up
Are we allowed to criticize Kyrie yet or are we still treating bro like he beat cancer or smthn? 😂
not sure how we can say luka is having a phenomenal series when he is getting cooked on defense literally every single possession. idk why as nba fans we care only about offensive but it makes no sense. luka turned the ball over 8 times and i couldn’t even tell you the amount of points he gave up tonight. how is that a phenomenal performance?
Luka did not outplay the jays. He out SCORED them. Tatum had more real rebounds. More assists and ELITE defence. Expect you to know there’s more to ball than points.
😂 they know. Just want to make Tatum look bad. Dude picked Kyrie pocket so easy! During a crucial moment late in the 4th!!
He outplayed both of them
This comment is Boston fans in a nutshell 🤦🏿♂️
Facts… wtf is a fake rebound?
Best team since the 2013-14 spurs as overall team construction goes
Jayson Tatum is truly a complete basketball player. i never realised he was this great until this playoffs. This man impacts the game without making shots. Luka is too bad defensively for me to care about any points he scores. His man walks right by him and that leads to the open looks. Can't make excuses for that when you lose and he keeps getting ripped or throwing wild passes.
Bro Tatum literally walked by him like 3 times! 😂 just puts him on his hip and Luka gives up
Them Jrue over Kyrie convos gonna go crazy after this
Loved your analysis. Earned a sub from me 👍
To me from watching, I’d say if the Celtics close it out, Tatum would be my choice for MVP! Everything is going through him for the Celtics offense and making the right play! His assists don’t tell the whole story either because of the hockey assists/extra passes! Now hopefully we will see a couple of better scoring games (since that’s all that seems to matter to some). But the Celtics have been amazing
Remember that argument with P and Kenny😂 look like Jrue is a bucket
7:22, the 2014 spurs come to mind
You show that you don't have to like the celtics and you don't just have to be a hater you're a real basketball viewer and analyst The Numbers on the Board gang knows ball respect P
A good team on offense and defense can and will always beat the team with just the best player carrying a team
Pee wee I love your commentary young brother.
This is Lukas first finals. If they lose. Going into the off season and off seasons to come, with the right organizational moves, they’ll be back. Celtics had there attempts at a championship and they’ve made the right structural changes and this will be in their favor. Luka will be back in the finals. Every dog will have their day and right now it’s just the Celtics turn
Like you said it's just a such a small margin for error, and I agree that Luka has had some pretty lackluster defense. But like you said I can't really fault him since he's 95% of the offense at the moment and I just don't know how you expect him to give that kind of effort both ways for more then a quarter before he's exhausted. Think he needs to work on stamina this off season so that it isn't as much of an issue going forward. Truth be told if role players on Dallas have another lackluster shooting performance id say fuck it and let Luka take all the shots just to see what happens cause they've been a let down completely so far from the 3 point line
Hmm I wonder if slouching on defense allows you to save energy for offense? If Luka played both side of the ball I wonder if he would average 30?
Its never too much to ask a guy to play defense. No one cares how big your load is on offense. Basketball is not just offense and THEY DO NOT have a chance if guys keep letting the Celtics walk right by him. Luka can score as much as he wants, but when you start turning the ball over so much and you don't get a single stop, or even care to try, you wont win. In what world do guys win championships with their best players not playing a lick of defense?
Yea they always do this when they play the mavs and Luka knows it! You can tell he’s not joking around no more or talking crap to any of the Celtics players. He knows he’s in for a longggggg series! Celtics don’t give you a second to breathe! I’m a Celtics fan, I know how bad they want this!! JB officially became the vocal leader Smart used to be! Tatum is the best player but he’s not the leader type. He just wants to ball! 😂
Give Brad Stevens the finals MVP
Kyrie just wants another 3-1 comeback
Jerry West is the only player in NBA history to win finals MVP while losing the finals.
Brad Stevens is the betting favorite for fmvp
This is what Dhels don't understand and will rather contradict himself than concede the point to you.
Brad Steven’s watched Danny ainge and saw what he needed to do
Its a holiday in boston
The Celtics straight up sucked game 2 yet they still won it’s impossible to genuinely think the Mav’s will still win this series
Appreciate the vid, missed the game at work🥲
Luka shouldn't get Finals MVP either. He has been horrible on defense. He doesn't even rotate when he gets beat off the dribble. He gives up damn near as much points as he scores.
This is the same jrue holiday that Jimmy butler absolutely terrorized and violated last year that’s how you know situations make the player🤷🏽♂️
Pain
if tatum can have 2 big games 25+ he can be fmvp.
What if it’s not adjustment thing what if Dallas don’t have the personnel
Luka is the Finals MVP right now. Jerry West vibes.
Talking bout why is Dante exam getting playoff minutes
Mfer came here cuz of a dunk hell naw boy stupid
@Peeweedaplug I am stupid lol thought of you right away
@Peeweedaplug that's awesome didn't expect a reply, love yall fellas
Could Luka be the FMVP
That Low tweet was dumb Lebron exist and its a shame Luka can get 1 or 2 bitw but its to much to ask to not be a 0 on defense. Our standards have fell or bitw you just have to be a super good offensive player and they will ignore the other side.
So is he a bucket getter?????
If Tatum could clean up his diets of side step threes and turnaround fadeaway jumpers(the difficult shit) and drove more, threw up floaters, and some on balance paint jumpers.
man there is no way he could continue to be this inefficient.
Sometimes you gotta zip up the "bag" and get back to basics.
Inefficient?? He helpin his team stop stat watching.
@@cronggpal I made it a point to only focus on his SCORING. He is doing damn near everything else for the team. Hard defense, play making, grabbing boards, I watched the games. He is shooting like shit. That is pretty much the only thing one can complain about.
He is doing himself no favors with some of them high difficulty shots he is taking. That is a fact.
@@ricy802imo it’s just his 3 balls. He’s gonna take a few bad mid range faders…I wish he wouldn’t lol but he’s earned that. If he could just shoot around 35% from 3, he’d be shooting closer to 50% averaging almost a triple double. I honestly couldn’t care less how we win though…so long as we win lol
@@ricy802bro he usually hits those shots easy! Those aren’t hard shots for him! Mavs just Sending 3 people on him and it’s bothering him of course! Tatum can go off any second and he’s due for a big game! Those type of games where he can’t miss. That’s when he’s really scary
@@cvgodd1432 maybe I'm overreacting, but it would be nice to see him ease up when those shots arent falling and stepping back into them when he is back in his groove.
But yes they are keying on him HEAVY.
But what happened with all the narratives against them lol they can't say anything about road games now they been great on the road compared to Dallas at home lets see if they even mention that lol
Byrie!!!! Tell your Scoot loving Friend. Dallas need to SCHEME BETTER
i don’t think Maxi Kleber could be on the floor, that big shoulder brace coming off injury and being left open to not convert is killin his mental imo. If he can’t stretch the floor he’s a non factor
That dude is so trash. Why does kidd play him so much?!
Dallas is over helping. They need to employ the method Boston is on Luka and everyone else. They’re making Luka the scorer and limiting everyone else. Dallas needs to do that with Tatum or Brown. Just choose and let them play one on one. Boston is beating Dallas with the pass. Not the shooting
Can he get you a bucket though is the real question???
is jrue a certified bucket getter now???
Since the playoffs started. He’s been so efficient too it’s crazy! 78% tonight!!
Luca had 1 assist and 30 points in game 1 while Tatum had 16 points and 6 turnovers. Luca had 8 turnovers, 22 assist and rebounds combined and scored 32 points last night and in these last 2 games he's had 6 steals and 12 turnovers while Tatum over the last 2 games has 8 turnovers and 1 steal. Idk you tell me🤷♂️
Why is everyone Mavs fans now?! 😂
How can we say luka us the best player on the court, when he's the one giving up all the points the Cs are picking on him like a high school bully. Guy cani guard anyone but Payton Pitchard. James harden us a better defender
P keeping it 100
#peace
Luka is not the best player, scoring points is not all.. defense and playmaking. Luka did better game 2 but had 1 assists game 1.. and 8 TO game 2.. DEFENSE WINS CHAMPIONSHIPS or stat padding guys like James Harden would have a ring
THE KYRIE GAME
1 minute no views, you FELL OFF
nah im just playing, love you peewee
PLEASE stop with this cringe trend
JB is better than Tatum
lol wot
So why do they triple team Tatum and not Brown? 😂
Kyrie is just letting Luka down man it sucks to watch
People keep saying tatum can shoot bad but still be up like the reason his teammates are shooting well is cause he is being triple teamed meaning it’s 2 vs 4