However, it should be noted that the lances used for war was still very sturdy comparted to tournament lances. Cause when a lance breaks all that extra energy that could have been delivered into the target is now spent on sending all the wooden bits flying everywhere. So a lance that broke easily dealt less damage to it's target compared to a sturdier one. It did however make tournaments safer, as to make the lance hit less hard you simply had to make it less durable
Depended on the lance, but yeah they were studier and heavier. Breaking was a feature in some, because not having one break can be detreimential. Knock yourself off your own horse for example. Also having a lighter or hollow lance meant you could have a longer lance. Think that is what made the Winged Hussars so good right? Something like that. I want to know what the Companion lances looked like, and how they freaken charged in a mass formation without stirrups or advanced harnesses. Without falling. Simply holding on with their massive thick boi thighs. Well so I am told. Must have had glutes of steel too riding bare back like that. Maybe their huge steel balls helped keep balance with a lower center of gravity. Just to think they charged like that without full plate! Although the linothorax or whatever is actually so much better than people give credit for.
@@dianapennepacker6854 Yeah, the Winged Hussars used like 6 meter lances, hollow to make them light enough to couch with 1 hand. The Companions meanwhile didn't couch their lances like knights did, rather they wielder their lances much more like a spear, as the couched lance of cavalry like knights did require certain saddle construction pioneered by the Romans in the West, though even then it didn't really take off everywhere, IE the Byzanttine Cataphractsfamously used their lances with two hands, but they also served more like a bulldozer compared to the knights wreckingball. The Stirrups did help a bit but their main use here in the west, where horse archery was not as common, was making mounting and dismounting easier, and holding your balance during the melee EDIT for Addition: To the later knights and cataphracts, the Companion cavalry would have been light-mid weight cavalry.
@@dianapennepacker6854don't forget that big warhorses are a recent development. Alexanders cav did charge on Ponys so the energy wasn't that high. Bucephalus maybe was eceptional big for his time, but how much combat he realy has seen is questionable. Even Alexander wouldn't have charged in in the first line. That's not the position for the king.
Exactly! Because in tournaments you usually jousted against other knights within the same kingdom, not foreign nights of an enemy kingdom. If they did full-combat jousting, a kingdom would quickly cripple or kill many of the knights who are supposed to defend it.
Best I can offer is that somewhere in Minnesota, there's a Viking themed festival, at that festival there's a Zipline horse contraption where you can use a lance like things to spear a golden ring.
I've once attended a medival festival with a real youst. And damn, that stuff was impressive. Seeing a knight on a huge steed, fully clad in armor (the knight, only partial armor for the horse). The loud thudding of hooves, and the snapping and breaking sounds when a lance splintered. One time followed by a knight being dismounted... That was soo impressive to watch in out protected modern societly. Not something i'll forget anytime soon.
I went to a Ren fair that had a battle royal. One of the guys was a right bastard doing a lot of dirty tactics. We were seated too far for me to see well. But I got a TON of pictures and got to see the prince dude all bloodied up. Still raring to fight. It was awesome. I found out later I needed glasses. 😂
I happened upon some real jousting in Germany. I didn't know it was real jousting and when they thundered towards eachother (much, much faster than in this clip) I thought 'no way they're really going to hit eachother'. They did. One of the most impressive things I ever saw.
It’s a really impressive thing to see in person. And what isn’t mentioned here is how the lance shards can fly into the knight’s helmet, embed themselves in their eye, and potentially kill them. At least that’s what the knight-herald told us in the crowd when his little brother was jousting on the field and caught a shard through his helmet. They had to pause the joust and call an ambulance for the guy. Amazing Faire and joust, but very scary for that knight!
@@randomperson4198they wouldn't repair hollowed out lances they would have had extra and there's most of the time a few smiths coming along with the army and merchants would be there to run out of lances buy or order new ones
You got a point Nice thing about dueling is that it makes you think about whether or not you're really mad enough to risk dying/murder Which a lot of times is no, so it contextualizes the offense and gives you a reason to get over it Bad thing about it is that sometimes you are just actually that mad (reasonably or otherwise)... So something still sketchy but less imminently deadly could have potential
@@XIIchiron78 Considering all the ways we've made sports safer over the years, we could take measures to make dueling or jousting much safer than it used to be. So we wouldn't necessarily need to worry as much about one side killing the other in anger. Also I think jousting would commonly end in fatal duels anyway as the loser wouldn't easily accept defeat.
The creation of competition lances is super interesting too, they had to be made to certain specs so they'd have enough impact to knock somebody off a horse but still break on impact, it was quite the science and the guys who made them were very skilled, I wouldn't want to be the guy making these tho because they're realy difficult to build and they're single use so your just watching all your hard to make creations get destroyed one after another
The British adopted the bamboo lance to avoid the very problem of getting stuck in your opponent. It was whippy enough to bend, come out again, and still be ok for use.
One of the best parts of Dunk and Egg was the use of tourney lances over war lances to have extra reach. It wouldn't kill them, but it'd prove the point
I love when people make shit up. Bursting lances weren't used in war except maybe by necessity or accidentally. Bursting lances were only for friendly tournaments as a safety device. When a Knight could no longer use his lance he merely dropped it, it's purpose was to either dismount other armored Calvary or to be imposing and allow the Knight to knock away pikes so they could charge past lines and get to the center or archers.
Yep, here at our medieval fair they do real jousting too! Main difference in modern lances and their medieval counterparts is they're made to shatter easier and more safely.
That's not why, or at least that's not why the Polish/Lithuanian Hussars did it. If your lance becomes embedded in your enemy, you can still just let go and draw your secondary weapon. The hollow lance allowed the lance to be lighter, which allowed it to be longer yet still wieldable. The Hussar lances were long enough that they could head on charge pikes and win.
Hollowed out lances also made them lighter, which allowed them to be really long while not weighing much more than a regular spear that would've been significantly shorter than the lance.
it's also not surprising that Lance's break considering the energy getting pushed into them. you have a ton of horse traveling at probably 20 ish miles an hour being forced through what is effectively a really fancy stick. all the while that is getting mashed into someone coming the opposite way on another horse that weighs a ton . the forces involved are nothing to shake a stick at.
To be fair that's a demonstration joust. They make them weaker so they break instead of unseating the rider because falling off a horse is the most likely way to get injured. Full on jousting competitions use solid lances that very rarely break.
This is why I always loved to go to the Ren Faire, so I could see this irl. I think they also had a battle royale-style fight with a bunch of knights, but I can’t quite remember
Interesting fun fact from my Armizzare teacher (who taught and practiced jousting)... The History channel's jousting show failed and had a ton of injuries because they changed the armor to be more appealing and modern. Turns out, the armor for jousting was basically perfect and couldn't be improved on. A lot of armorers refused to work the show, knowing this lol.
The lance intentionally breaking also means you can hold it as tight as you want without having to worry what happens when you hit. The way lanced are braced against the body could potentially lead to injuries, and if held in a way that it just slips out of your hand would reduce the impact force, and might not penetrate enemy armour. The disposable design ensures the lance carries loads of momentum but doesn't injure or dismount the knight holding it. It also allows for special jousting lances to be made which might break at weaker forces. It's simultaneously safer, more spectacular, and also more effective in combat
They would also often (so I have read) circle back, be handed a replacement (or "reload") lance by squires/servants, and then charge again, often several times.
We generally do three passes per match in the groups I run in. We usually go back to our starting end each pass, but one can also turn-and-burn. We find it gets some of our horses extra riled up if we T&B sometimes, though.
My local Ren Fair has actual, non-scripted, full contact jousting. They wear little shilds on their shoulder ment to catch the lance tip, both to shatter it and to stop it from stabbing them in the neck. They sell signed shattered lance shards to help the horse rescue that they train their horses from.
That makes so much sense, more to do with the fact that if you were on a horse and hit something at horse speed, it would be like running into a brick wall, so you need to disperse that energy or your literally going to be de horsed
You have to also take into consideration the invention of the lance rest with the development of plate armor. That way you got more unf on the strike and this caused the the lances to break, not because they were designed to break but because the force was too much for it to handle. Those kind of Calvary lances are usually longer and stronger than regular spears
I'm not going to lie. I am generally surprised that no one has pierced the horse accidentally during one of those things. And if I was in a real battle on horseback that's the first thing I'm going for.😂
I have to imagine that, prior to this innovation, a whole lot of cavalrymen got yanked off their horse by the sudden impact of newton's third law coming into effect entirely on their good arm.
Its like the korean bamboo spears made to combat the japanese. The samurai pirates would cut their traditional spears so they made long, multi pointed spears of bamboo that when cut would still have more spears.
The most badass and entertaining sport ive ever seen in person was jousting. Was lucky enough to sit close enough to the arena to get dirt in my face as the horses raced past. It was amazing 🤩
"hay milord, my lance keeps getting stuck in the enemy. Should I just drop it and use my sword instead?" "Hmmm good point squire! I think the best solution is to hollow out the lance, so it violently explodes on impact!" Squire facepalming "sir why are you like this?"
I like the idea that lances were developed to slay dragons with their "single shot" because the inventors didn't know there weren't any dragons (just big lizards, myths and costumes in far of lands) - So naturally because of the lack of dragons to slay they eventually became sports equipment. Has no evidence to my knowledge but a neat theory!
this feels like the polar inverse of the modern disposable anti-tank launcher, a larger disposable weapon wielded by armored knights on horseback (the medieval equivalent of tanks) being used against infantry
He’s wrong though, rare L moment for him. The lances that broke up were only used for tourneys, to make jousting safer. War lances were sturdy and not made as single use weapons. The only single use spear-like weapons I have heard of that were single use were Roman pila (and even that is disputed).
So there's this entertainment company in America called Medieval Times, which host real jousting tournaments every weekend, with actors for the king and queen to spectate. you can come pay to watch and they serve you dinner while it's going on. you get to see like six different pairs of knights charge at each other and shatter their lances. it's really fun to watch.
Both the US and the UK have jousting leagues. They have each game has 3 events, rings joust and battle royal. I've always wanted to go to one. The closest team to me is in Kentucky.
First time I heard of lances shattering was reading a book of Arthurian legends. Don't remember a single lance surviving one bout. If you are a poet or scribe though, knowing nothing of the durability of a lance, I can see it playing into tales of a knight's strength: With one blow, foe and arms smote from horseback
Dont quote me but I'm fairly certain that another perk of it was; since they were relatively light, carrying more were an option so cycling cavalry could cycle back to their squiers and be handed a "fresh" lance to charge with again. I could swear I've read this somewhere but I cant remember where so grain of salt and all that
"Breaking a lance" is a Dutch expression. Usually in some sort of discussion, debate or conflict... Breaking a lance for someone or something is when you make effort to represent them or their interests. Like "he broke a lance for parents of special needs children in the debate by arguing the law unfairly disadvantages them".
Stak, have you read any of Tamora Pierce's books? I feel like you would love reading the Protector of the Small series with your daughter! (I recommend it to everyone with daughters to be fair, but the jousting in it is great!)
Question for you, what’s the difference between a Pike and a lance? Is it just the way it’s used or the time frame, it seems like it would serve the same purpose. I really like your vids btw.
Yeah but you can see from the force of the impact that those are most likely pre-cut lances. It's very common at my local Renaissance faire. They're designed to break without knocking your opponent off the horse.
@@oz_jones yeah you walk away with some bruises and that's about it. There is a jousting League out there though that does do full force with the intention of knocking you off your horse though LOL if I remember right the History channel had a show on it like 15 years ago.
I've always thought the bursting version was for tournaments ect recreational use. But the solid version for combat as it had the potetial for multiple use though unlikely. Either way they will have to switch to a secondary.
@@XIIchiron78 That's like picking McDonald's over a quality restaurant, lol. I don't dislike Medieval Times, but it's notorious for being cheap knock off experience of Ren Faire, which is cheap knock off of the European Tournaments, lol
To get the desired splintering effect on camera, the lances in A Knight's Tale were filled with dried spaghetti.
I actually kind of always wondered what was up with that dried straw look when they broke in that movie. Good to know!
**Angry Italian noises**
Didn't they buy out the entire countries stock of spaghetti
Imagine if it'd been bolognese.
Balsa wood. And yes, the whole country of Romania’s supply went to them. It’s only the tip of the lance that’s balsa
However, it should be noted that the lances used for war was still very sturdy comparted to tournament lances. Cause when a lance breaks all that extra energy that could have been delivered into the target is now spent on sending all the wooden bits flying everywhere. So a lance that broke easily dealt less damage to it's target compared to a sturdier one.
It did however make tournaments safer, as to make the lance hit less hard you simply had to make it less durable
Depended on the lance, but yeah they were studier and heavier. Breaking was a feature in some, because not having one break can be detreimential. Knock yourself off your own horse for example. Also having a lighter or hollow lance meant you could have a longer lance.
Think that is what made the Winged Hussars so good right? Something like that.
I want to know what the Companion lances looked like, and how they freaken charged in a mass formation without stirrups or advanced harnesses.
Without falling. Simply holding on with their massive thick boi thighs.
Well so I am told. Must have had glutes of steel too riding bare back like that.
Maybe their huge steel balls helped keep balance with a lower center of gravity.
Just to think they charged like that without full plate! Although the linothorax or whatever is actually so much better than people give credit for.
@@dianapennepacker6854 Yeah, the Winged Hussars used like 6 meter lances, hollow to make them light enough to couch with 1 hand.
The Companions meanwhile didn't couch their lances like knights did, rather they wielder their lances much more like a spear, as the couched lance of cavalry like knights did require certain saddle construction pioneered by the Romans in the West, though even then it didn't really take off everywhere, IE the Byzanttine Cataphractsfamously used their lances with two hands, but they also served more like a bulldozer compared to the knights wreckingball.
The Stirrups did help a bit but their main use here in the west, where horse archery was not as common, was making mounting and dismounting easier, and holding your balance during the melee
EDIT for Addition: To the later knights and cataphracts, the Companion cavalry would have been light-mid weight cavalry.
@@dianapennepacker6854don't forget that big warhorses are a recent development. Alexanders cav did charge on Ponys so the energy wasn't that high. Bucephalus maybe was eceptional big for his time, but how much combat he realy has seen is questionable. Even Alexander wouldn't have charged in in the first line. That's not the position for the king.
Exactly! Because in tournaments you usually jousted against other knights within the same kingdom, not foreign nights of an enemy kingdom.
If they did full-combat jousting, a kingdom would quickly cripple or kill many of the knights who are supposed to defend it.
*TLDR:* War lances were meant to break _after_ penetrating the opponent.
Medieval jousting is on my bucket list of things i want to try and just scream "LEEEEEEEEROOOOOOOOOY JEEEEEEEEENKIIIINNNNNNSSSSS" as i do it
So damn true
Best I can offer is that somewhere in Minnesota, there's a Viking themed festival, at that festival there's a Zipline horse contraption where you can use a lance like things to spear a golden ring.
proud unc post
Make jousting a sport
Someday we’ll get it on the Olympics. It sure as hell is better than breakdancing
I've once attended a medival festival with a real youst. And damn, that stuff was impressive. Seeing a knight on a huge steed, fully clad in armor (the knight, only partial armor for the horse). The loud thudding of hooves, and the snapping and breaking sounds when a lance splintered. One time followed by a knight being dismounted...
That was soo impressive to watch in out protected modern societly. Not something i'll forget anytime soon.
I went to a Ren fair that had a battle royal. One of the guys was a right bastard doing a lot of dirty tactics. We were seated too far for me to see well. But I got a TON of pictures and got to see the prince dude all bloodied up. Still raring to fight. It was awesome. I found out later I needed glasses. 😂
Why did this description become kind of erotic
I happened upon some real jousting in Germany. I didn't know it was real jousting and when they thundered towards eachother (much, much faster than in this clip) I thought 'no way they're really going to hit eachother'. They did. One of the most impressive things I ever saw.
@@XIIchiron78 that's a you problem. Get your mind out of the gutter. It's not healthy for you.
It’s a really impressive thing to see in person. And what isn’t mentioned here is how the lance shards can fly into the knight’s helmet, embed themselves in their eye, and potentially kill them. At least that’s what the knight-herald told us in the crowd when his little brother was jousting on the field and caught a shard through his helmet. They had to pause the joust and call an ambulance for the guy. Amazing Faire and joust, but very scary for that knight!
Since medieval times, we've had:
"Switch to your secondary, it's quicker than reloading"
Switching to a secondary is faster then repairing your primary
Mediaval? That's been a thing since at least the bronze age. Run out of spears? Draw your sword.
@@randomperson4198they wouldn't repair hollowed out lances they would have had extra and there's most of the time a few smiths coming along with the army and merchants would be there to run out of lances buy or order new ones
@@Isaac-hm6ih or your axe or mace. I recall the polish hussars and jannisaries fighting with axes and maces as their secondaries iirc.
Switch to your secondary, it's faster than pulling the primary out of your opponent.
We need to bring back jousting. Any time two people have any kind of dispute, it's time to saddle the fuck up.
Or, as a modern alternative, jousting on motorcycles.
You got a point
Nice thing about dueling is that it makes you think about whether or not you're really mad enough to risk dying/murder
Which a lot of times is no, so it contextualizes the offense and gives you a reason to get over it
Bad thing about it is that sometimes you are just actually that mad (reasonably or otherwise)... So something still sketchy but less imminently deadly could have potential
@@XIIchiron78 Considering all the ways we've made sports safer over the years, we could take measures to make dueling or jousting much safer than it used to be. So we wouldn't necessarily need to worry as much about one side killing the other in anger. Also I think jousting would commonly end in fatal duels anyway as the loser wouldn't easily accept defeat.
Modern competitive jousting is still a thing. There was even a TV show about a group that competed in it, but I don't remember the name of it
We live in a world where we have breakdancing as an olympic sport but not jousting
The creation of competition lances is super interesting too, they had to be made to certain specs so they'd have enough impact to knock somebody off a horse but still break on impact, it was quite the science and the guys who made them were very skilled, I wouldn't want to be the guy making these tho because they're realy difficult to build and they're single use so your just watching all your hard to make creations get destroyed one after another
Or worse you get just slightly unlucky and oops now the Duke's favorite son is bleeding out
The British adopted the bamboo lance to avoid the very problem of getting stuck in your opponent. It was whippy enough to bend, come out again, and still be ok for use.
But that's a couple hundred years after the time when jousting was popular, though...
One of the best parts of Dunk and Egg was the use of tourney lances over war lances to have extra reach. It wouldn't kill them, but it'd prove the point
In that scene in A Knight's tale that knight hit with a lance was Heath Ledger's stunt double and was knocked unconscious.
The slow lowering of the lance prior to the charge tickles my brain
The understandable glee on the face during the start
If people are still competing, then i would love to watch it live.
There are definitely still jousts happening! They're just a bit more unknown. Same with mounted archery competitions
Remember switching to your secondary is faster than pulling it out of the enemy's chest
Beautiful! *chefs kiss*
I love watching proper jousts. Bring it on!
I love when people make shit up.
Bursting lances weren't used in war except maybe by necessity or accidentally.
Bursting lances were only for friendly tournaments as a safety device.
When a Knight could no longer use his lance he merely dropped it, it's purpose was to either dismount other armored Calvary or to be imposing and allow the Knight to knock away pikes so they could charge past lines and get to the center or archers.
I got to watch real jousting at medieval times back about 20-25 years ago. It was amazing
Yep, here at our medieval fair they do real jousting too! Main difference in modern lances and their medieval counterparts is they're made to shatter easier and more safely.
When he said "you can see the exact moment", I thought the next words out of his mouth were going to be "the soul leaves his body"... 😂
I love how excited you get over this
I remember when darth vader did this on a Alien horse and charging at Big Kaiju
Jousting shield are concave not concurve so the lance hits the center of the shield instead of deflecting off.
Today I remembered that jousting was a real thing and it looks just as badass as it did when I was a kid
Wing hussars arrived
COMING DOWN THE MOUNTAIN SIDE
That's not why, or at least that's not why the Polish/Lithuanian Hussars did it. If your lance becomes embedded in your enemy, you can still just let go and draw your secondary weapon. The hollow lance allowed the lance to be lighter, which allowed it to be longer yet still wieldable. The Hussar lances were long enough that they could head on charge pikes and win.
Remember: switching to secondary is faster than pulling out your primary from the corpse of your enemy.
Hollowed out lances also made them lighter, which allowed them to be really long while not weighing much more than a regular spear that would've been significantly shorter than the lance.
it's also not surprising that Lance's break considering the energy getting pushed into them. you have a ton of horse traveling at probably 20 ish miles an hour being forced through what is effectively a really fancy stick. all the while that is getting mashed into someone coming the opposite way on another horse that weighs a ton . the forces involved are nothing to shake a stick at.
plus jousting shield are concave not concurve so the lance hits the center of the shield instead of deflecting off.
Well of course you don't shake your stick at them. You have to keep it leveled at your opponent if you want to unseat them.
Remember, changing to your sword is always faster than relancing.
Switching to your secondary is always faster than reloading
Nice to see Norman knights from the Perry brother's, wonderful sculpts!
Remember: switching to your sword is faster than fixing your lance.
I always thought that cavalry is basically a medieval guided arrow missile
To be fair that's a demonstration joust.
They make them weaker so they break instead of unseating the rider because falling off a horse is the most likely way to get injured.
Full on jousting competitions use solid lances that very rarely break.
This is why I always loved to go to the Ren Faire, so I could see this irl. I think they also had a battle royale-style fight with a bunch of knights, but I can’t quite remember
Interesting fun fact from my Armizzare teacher (who taught and practiced jousting)...
The History channel's jousting show failed and had a ton of injuries because they changed the armor to be more appealing and modern.
Turns out, the armor for jousting was basically perfect and couldn't be improved on. A lot of armorers refused to work the show, knowing this lol.
Lances designed to shatter can deliver splinters that bypass armor. It was occasional, but still a risk even in jousts today.
Hell, yeah Jousting And history, this is the best
The lance intentionally breaking also means you can hold it as tight as you want without having to worry what happens when you hit. The way lanced are braced against the body could potentially lead to injuries, and if held in a way that it just slips out of your hand would reduce the impact force, and might not penetrate enemy armour.
The disposable design ensures the lance carries loads of momentum but doesn't injure or dismount the knight holding it. It also allows for special jousting lances to be made which might break at weaker forces. It's simultaneously safer, more spectacular, and also more effective in combat
Remember. It's faster to switch to your secondary than repairing
My ancestor was stabbed in the eye by a broken lance under his armour. After that, he wouldn't let his kid joust. True story.
It reminded me of that scene in A Knights Tale when William shattered the lance
Thanks for blowing my speakers
History channel had a show called full metal jousting and it was absolutely insane
The invention of the Stirrup allowed the Lance to be used
Remember, pulling out your secondary lance is always faster than reloading your primary lance
They would also often (so I have read) circle back, be handed a replacement (or "reload") lance by squires/servants, and then charge again, often several times.
We generally do three passes per match in the groups I run in. We usually go back to our starting end each pass, but one can also turn-and-burn. We find it gets some of our horses extra riled up if we T&B sometimes, though.
My local Ren Fair has actual, non-scripted, full contact jousting. They wear little shilds on their shoulder ment to catch the lance tip, both to shatter it and to stop it from stabbing them in the neck. They sell signed shattered lance shards to help the horse rescue that they train their horses from.
That makes so much sense, more to do with the fact that if you were on a horse and hit something at horse speed, it would be like running into a brick wall, so you need to disperse that energy or your literally going to be de horsed
Something I've never thought about until now is how easy it would be for one of the lances to hit the horse instead of the rider. 😨
Switching to your secondary IS quicker than reloading. Smart.
You have to also take into consideration the invention of the lance rest with the development of plate armor. That way you got more unf on the strike and this caused the the lances to break, not because they were designed to break but because the force was too much for it to handle. Those kind of Calvary lances are usually longer and stronger than regular spears
I'm not going to lie. I am generally surprised that no one has pierced the horse accidentally during one of those things.
And if I was in a real battle on horseback that's the first thing I'm going for.😂
I have to imagine that, prior to this innovation, a whole lot of cavalrymen got yanked off their horse by the sudden impact of newton's third law coming into effect entirely on their good arm.
Roland had no problem throwing a lance with three nights on it.
Its like the korean bamboo spears made to combat the japanese. The samurai pirates would cut their traditional spears so they made long, multi pointed spears of bamboo that when cut would still have more spears.
What I just found out not too long ago is that about 400 years ago, a horse was only a little taller than a modern day great dane
Because it’s not true….
😂 yeah that's literally untrue. Warhorses were big and mean.
The most badass and entertaining sport ive ever seen in person was jousting. Was lucky enough to sit close enough to the arena to get dirt in my face as the horses raced past. It was amazing 🤩
Anyone else remember when there was a competitive jousting show for a season? Might've been called full metal jousting? I can't quite recall
Yeppers.
one of them had the uphill advantage
Depends on the region, but IIRC jousting was often more like a sport and not that often meant as a fight to the death.
"hay milord, my lance keeps getting stuck in the enemy. Should I just drop it and use my sword instead?" "Hmmm good point squire! I think the best solution is to hollow out the lance, so it violently explodes on impact!" Squire facepalming "sir why are you like this?"
I like the idea that lances were developed to slay dragons with their "single shot" because the inventors didn't know there weren't any dragons (just big lizards, myths and costumes in far of lands) - So naturally because of the lack of dragons to slay they eventually became sports equipment. Has no evidence to my knowledge but a neat theory!
I'm sure PETA loves this. Animals are my favorite food and I was still worried for the horses
this feels like the polar inverse of the modern disposable anti-tank launcher, a larger disposable weapon wielded by armored knights on horseback (the medieval equivalent of tanks) being used against infantry
He’s wrong though, rare L moment for him. The lances that broke up were only used for tourneys, to make jousting safer. War lances were sturdy and not made as single use weapons. The only single use spear-like weapons I have heard of that were single use were Roman pila (and even that is disputed).
So there's this entertainment company in America called Medieval Times, which host real jousting tournaments every weekend, with actors for the king and queen to spectate. you can come pay to watch and they serve you dinner while it's going on. you get to see like six different pairs of knights charge at each other and shatter their lances. it's really fun to watch.
I love how no one is talking about the fact that was real and legitimate jousting
They did a season on History Channel of a reality show where they would have basically a jousting tournament. It was entertaining
WAIT, SO THESE WERE ACTUALLY USED IN COMBAT????
that's actually fuckin terrifying
Saw it once in Maryland at rennfaire, our state sport is jousting so the rennfaire jousting is LIT af
Both the US and the UK have jousting leagues. They have each game has 3 events, rings joust and battle royal. I've always wanted to go to one. The closest team to me is in Kentucky.
A few kings died because that sport or Went crazy because of The brain damage
The same as any contact sport.
First time I heard of lances shattering was reading a book of Arthurian legends.
Don't remember a single lance surviving one bout.
If you are a poet or scribe though, knowing nothing of the durability of a lance, I can see it playing into tales of a knight's strength:
With one blow, foe and arms smote from horseback
wait holy shit i used to think splitting lances were just a tournament thing it felt too absurd to be smth ppl legit used
Fun fact, the state sport of Maryland is jousting.
Dont quote me but I'm fairly certain that another perk of it was; since they were relatively light, carrying more were an option so cycling cavalry could cycle back to their squiers and be handed a "fresh" lance to charge with again.
I could swear I've read this somewhere but I cant remember where so grain of salt and all that
It took DAYS to make a lance, for it to shatter in mere moments.
"Breaking a lance" is a Dutch expression. Usually in some sort of discussion, debate or conflict... Breaking a lance for someone or something is when you make effort to represent them or their interests. Like "he broke a lance for parents of special needs children in the debate by arguing the law unfairly disadvantages them".
It bugs me that in fiction they depict jousting as if the goal was to kill the other, pierce the armor or even attack the horse.
Need to check that broken lance- it might have been corked 😂😂😂
A large part of them being hollow (and even composites in the later years) was for weight.
Stak, have you read any of Tamora Pierce's books? I feel like you would love reading the Protector of the Small series with your daughter! (I recommend it to everyone with daughters to be fair, but the jousting in it is great!)
That smile 😳
Question for you, what’s the difference between a Pike and a lance? Is it just the way it’s used or the time frame, it seems like it would serve the same purpose.
I really like your vids btw.
And this "sport" has devolved into why they drive on the wrong side of the road.
Men see this and go “hell yeah!”
Yeah but you can see from the force of the impact that those are most likely pre-cut lances. It's very common at my local Renaissance faire. They're designed to break without knocking your opponent off the horse.
Makes sense. The force being delivered still hurts but it probably won't break your bones
@@oz_jones yeah you walk away with some bruises and that's about it.
There is a jousting League out there though that does do full force with the intention of knocking you off your horse though LOL if I remember right the History channel had a show on it like 15 years ago.
Winged hussars were very famous for there hollow lances being longer than pikes so they could thrive in the age of pike and shot warfare.
I've always thought the bursting version was for tournaments ect recreational use. But the solid version for combat as it had the potetial for multiple use though unlikely. Either way they will have to switch to a secondary.
Also a broken lance isnt necessarily useless anymore depending on how broken it is
On a personal note, I did not need to shatter my lance in order to switch to a secondary (Sword&Mace) I just let go of the lance and switched.
I spent an easter weekend volunteering at a jousting tournament and the splinters coming off the lances were mad
So... We need a trip to Romania eh?
As a Romanian I ask... Why Romania?!?
We do lag a bit behind the forefront of the military equipment, but we're not that far behind😂🤣🤭
@@bogdancondicaru7848 Because there's tourist places still doing jousting & such.
@@Confedyank damn, I'm living under a rock. Didn't knew that. Thanks
Or just Medieval Times
@@XIIchiron78 That's like picking McDonald's over a quality restaurant, lol.
I don't dislike Medieval Times, but it's notorious for being cheap knock off experience of Ren Faire, which is cheap knock off of the European Tournaments, lol
So considering these exist and early munitions basically involved a canon/ grenade/ artillery on a stick....
Im just saying it would be cool
I've seen 'A Knight's Tale' like at least 20 times so i know how it works.. 😁
Still thanks for the explanation
There's an idiom in spanish that is "breaking a lance" in someone's favour
I imagine they would ideally use the lance until it reached an inopperable length.
No video can prepare you for the feeling of impact when you see it in person.
Also, WHY THE FUCK ISN'T THIS IN THE OLYMPICS?!
Cavalry was really into pegging all the way up through to the First World War.
Tournament lances are made to be broken. I believe this is how they score but here I may be wrong