The whole world shifted on that momentous day. We are so fortunate to have had Mr Edison’s (who also shifted the world) marvellous new invention to capture it
When Santos Dumont flew the 14 bis in 1906, the Wright Brothers had already built and flown three different heavier-than-air flying machines: 1) the 1903 Flyer, which took off under its own power and flew 852 feet (260 m) while remaining in the air 59 seconds; 2) the 1904 Flyer which also took off under its own power and was the first heavier-than-air craft to fly in a complete circle as well as covering a distance of 4,080 feet; and 3) the 1905 Flyer which also took off under its own power and flew a distance of twenty-four miles, including several circular maneuvers. On the other hand, Santos Dumont's 14-bis was uncontrollable and was only capable of flying short distances in a straight line.😎😎😎😎😎
to be a fraud Dumont would need to look like the Wright brothers stories. You talk with me for several days and you still haven't shown a simple newspaper photo with the Wright Brothers before 1908. You should have already proven, dont you? You just prove is a fraud like Fake Brothers, you ran away like them. I still love to answer you, because you help my channel audience and that helps rank Dumont on RUclips. Thank you little kid!
@@MarcosPalhares " Keen cyclists, the Wright brothers opened their own bicycle sales and repairs shop before using what they had learned building bikes to take on the world of flight. They went on to achieve the first ever flights in a powered plane in 1903, and were also the inventors of the first passenger-carrying plane. " www.fai.org/news/fai-celebrates-120th-anniversary-wright-brothers-first-biplane-kite-taking-flight
Wright Brothers have 5 years to show their Flyer to the people on many Prize Organizations to be the first heavier than air and self controled flight, but they run away from all of them, because their history was fake: Deutsch prize (1901), Saint Louis Science Exposition (1904), Archdeacon prize (1906), Scientific American Trophy (1908), Deutsch-Archdeacon Prize (1908), Aeroclub de France prize (1906).
Wow! That is some awesome movie footage I have never seen before. This shows it all, in pretty much the same thing as at Kitty Hawk it shows how while other people’s inventions went from up to down flying a little , theirs went from down to up and kept right on going. Wright brothers were the greatest. Hands down way ahead of everybody.
Regardless of who actually flew a plane first, the Wright Bros created the first effective aviation control system of yaw, pitch, and roll in 1903 with the Wright Flyer. This is necessary for _any_ heavier-than-air plane to fly. The rest of what you say is just, "I like my guy, he's from my country, he flew first".
2023,..Very cool! I'm 69, I grew up in Cleveland, Ohio and I have lived in Columbus, Ohio since 1977. As a retired senior citizen I have been enjoying all the videos about the incredible achievements of the Wright Brothers. In my youth we were probably taught a little about them, more of footnote, and never a deep dive. Recently I have been spending my time learning more about them. Watching old-time films, that are now videos on You Tube. Since my 40s I have become more interested in the early inventions of our past. A lot of inventions having to do with flight, came from people of Ohio.
I’m 69 sometime along the way I habited reading obituaries. I think it was in the early 90’s read of the passing of a man whose Pilot’s License was issued by Orville Wright.
The Aero Club de France were well informed about the Wrights beginning in 1900 when Wilbur Wright began corresponding with founding member Octave Chanute. Impressed with the Wrights' progress, Chanute traveled to the United States to visit them at Kitty Hawk in 1901, 1902, and at Dayton, Ohio in 1903. After his 1903 visit, Octave Chanute delivered a lecture to the Aero Club de France in which he described the Wrights' experiments with gliders and their plans to fly a powered aircraft. Present at Octave Chanute's 1903 lecture was a French artillery captain named Ferdinand Ferber who likewise traveled to the United States and visited the Wrights at Huffman Prairie in Dayton, Ohio. After meeting the Wrights, Ferdinand Ferber declared himself a "disciple of Wright" and in 1904 built a copy of a Wright-style glider, describing it as a "type du Wright." Relying on information gained during these and other visits to the Wrights, the December 1905 and January 1906 editions of L'Aerophile (the official journal of the Aero Club de France) confirmed the Wrights' successful flight of a powered heavier-than-air airplane.😎😎😎😎
they not confirmed anything, the L´Aerophile did exactly the same as some newspapers of that time, only replicated a Wright text that was never confirmed with the presence of a journalist and with photos that proved what was said. The truth is photo currently reported by Americans 1903-1905 Flyer Wright has NEVER been seen because as the bluff brothers themselves said in their numerous letters and which can be read today in the Aviation Library of the American Congress, the Flyer was a secret ... or rather, did not exist. That is why the photos today attributed by Americans to 1903-1905 are artificial proof, no one saw these photos before 1909. A lie, just a lie.
they not confirmed anything, the L´Aerophile did exactly the same as some newspapers of that time, only replicated a Wright text that was never confirmed with the presence of a journalist and with photos that proved what was said. The truth is photo currently reported by Americans 1903-1905 Flyer Wright has NEVER been seen because as the bluff brothers themselves said in their numerous letters and which can be read today in the Aviation Library of the American Congress, the Flyer was a secret ... or rather, did not exist. That is why the photos today attributed by Americans to 1903-1905 are artificial proof, no one saw these photos before 1909. A lie, just a lie.
The nominations you made, all the newspapers and magazines show written on paper made by the two shamer brothers, friends of the Wrights and wright employees. HAS NO PHOTO.
@@MarcosPalhares " Keen cyclists, the Wright brothers opened their own bicycle sales and repairs shop before using what they had learned building bikes to take on the world of flight. They went on to achieve the first ever flights in a powered plane in 1903, and were also the inventors of the first passenger-carrying plane. " www.fai.org/news/fai-celebrates-120th-anniversary-wright-brothers-first-biplane-kite-taking-flight
Modern replicas replicas of the 14-bis incorporate modern alloys fabricated with modern technology (i.e. arc welding) and are equipped with modern Rotax aero engines & propellers. Any resemblances between them and the original are purely cosmetic. Furthermore, the primitive "air paddle" installed on the original was only 12% efficient. Combined with the high parasitic drag coefficient of the original and its inadequate (not to say non-existent) controls, the original 14-bis only ever achieved short hops in conditions of complete calm. Moreover, the excess dihedral of the 14-bis only served to increase its instability in even the gentlest cross winds.
" Keen cyclists, the Wright brothers opened their own bicycle sales and repairs shop before using what they had learned building bikes to take on the world of flight. They went on to achieve the first ever flights in a powered plane in 1903, and were also the inventors of the first passenger-carrying plane. " www.fai.org/news/fai-celebrates-120th-anniversary-wright-brothers-first-biplane-kite-taking-flight
The Aero Club of America, Aero Club de France, the Federation Aeronautique Internatioinale, Octave Chenault, Ferdinand Ferber, and the French Government all certified the Wrights as having flown in 1903. The December 1905 and January 1906 issues of L'Aerophile documented the Wrights' successful flights at Kitty Hawk, North Carolina and Dayton, Ohio. In point of fact, it was L'Aerophile's reportage of the Wrights that motivated Santos Dumont to cease experimentation with lighter-than-air aircraft and instead concentrate on heavier-than-air aircraft.
Why do you hate France? kkkkkk Please don't talk nonsense! FAI says Dumont was the first: www.fai.org/news/12-november-1906-first-flight-santos-dumont Aeroclub the France say the same aeroclub.com/chronologie/ Dumont never was motivated for someone who never shows their experiments because he was very democratic for the science, lÁerophile wrote by Ferber that never seem a WB flight before 1908. Too many lies, my friend. Please, stop to read fake news wrote by WB fanatics, not Scientist!
@@MarcosPalharesThe Aero Club of America, Aero Club de France, the Federation Aeronautique Internatioinale, Octave Chenault, Ferdinand Ferber, and the French Government all certified the Wrights as having flown in 1903. The December 1905 and January 1906 issues of L'Aerophile documented the Wrights' successful flights at Kitty Hawk, North Carolina and Dayton, Ohio. In point of fact, it was L'Aerophile's reportage of the Wrights that motivated Santos Dumont to cease experimentation with lighter-than-air aircraft and instead concentrate on heavier-than-air aircraft. Why do you accuse the French of lying? Why do you hate France?
@@jindlespog8045 they not confirmed anything, the L´Aerophile did exactly the same as some newspapers of that time, only replicated a Wright text that was never confirmed with the presence of a journalist and with photos that proved what was said. The truth is photo currently reported by Americans 1903-1905 Flyer Wright has NEVER been seen because as the bluff brothers themselves said in their numerous letters and which can be read today in the Aviation Library of the American Congress, the Flyer was a secret ... or rather, did not exist. That is why the photos today attributed by Americans to 1903-1905 are artificial proof, no one saw these photos before 1909. A lie, just a lie.
@@MarcosPalhares 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣The 1906 Pathé News Bagatelle Field footage proves the 14-bis failed to fly. Replicas of the 14-bis ca't fly without modern engines and modern propellers.
@@MarcosPalhares 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣The 1906 Pathé News Bagatelle Field footage proves the 14-bis failed to fly. Replicas of the 14-bis ca't fly without modern engines and modern propellers.
This is one of the great inventions of the ages along with Watt/s steam engine and Gutenberg's printing press among others. It's hard to believe that just 38 years after this the sound barrier was officially broken in level flight by the Bell X 1 with Chuck Yeager in October, 14 1947. Some had broken it in dives but they had a hard time documenting it.
When Santos Dumont attempted to fly the 14-bis in 1906, the Wright Brothers had already built and flown three different heavier-than-air flying machines: 1) the 1903 Flyer, which Took off under its own power and flew 852 feet (260 m) in 59 seconds, 2) the 1904 Flyer, which Took off under its own power and was the first heavier-than-air craft to fly in a complete circle as well as covering a distance of 4,080 feet during the same flight. Aviation pioneer Octave Chanute Observed many of the Flyer's 2 flights, and 3) the 1905 Flyer, which Took off under its own power and flew a distance of twenty-four miles, including circular several maneuvers. The Flyer was Also the world's first aircraft capable of carrying a passenger.😊😊😊😊
The fact is Wright Brothers ran away from photos and the press until 1908 because they didn't have an airplane. In 1906 they obtained a patent for "invention of aerial machine" that had no engine! kkkkkk You can search this information because it is public and as always the Americans wishing to take over the creation of the world! Wright Brothers are fake!
Events without proofs where the photos, filming, official registration, the monument for them are between 1903-1905. You write all this without official evidence, where the official evidence is.
@@MarcosPalhares " Keen cyclists, the Wright brothers opened their own bicycle sales and repairs shop before using what they had learned building bikes to take on the world of flight. They went on to achieve the first ever flights in a powered plane in 1903, and were also the inventors of the first passenger-carrying plane. " www.fai.org/news/fai-celebrates-120th-anniversary-wright-brothers-first-biplane-kite-taking-flight
@@MarcosPalhares " Keen cyclists, the Wright brothers opened their own bicycle sales and repairs shop before using what they had learned building bikes to take on the world of flight. They went on to achieve the first ever flights in a powered plane in 1903, and were also the inventors of the first passenger-carrying plane. " www.fai.org/news/fai-celebrates-120th-anniversary-wright-brothers-first-biplane-kite-taking-flight
@@MarcosPalhares This may come as a shock but the International Federation of Aeronautics disagrees with you: www.fai.org/news/fai-celebrates-120th-anniversary-wright-brothers-first-biplane-kite-taking-flight "Keen cyclists, the Wright brothers opened their own bicycle sales and repairs shop before using what they had learned building bikes to take on the world of flight. They went on to achieve the first ever flights in a powered plane in 1903, and were also the inventors of the first passenger-carrying plane."
The Wright's were carrying a passenger on these flights. Thus the need for the catapult and weight launch as they looked to be using the same design as the original flyer, , or may even have been using the same machine even at this late stage. There is photographic proof of the first flight and it pre-dates Dumont's claim. That first flight may have been a short hop, and may have used a catapult launch but there is no denying that it was a sustained, controlled flight by a heavier than air machine regardless of the way it was launched. Also, if you play this video at 50% speed it marked it almos normal speed as far as the people's motion goes.
The Wrights did not use a catapult in 1903. They used a ~27 mph headwind instead. They used the catapult launch later because it was cheaper than making a smooth runway and it let them always take off into the wind.
For all of those doubt that the Wright Brothers invented heavier than air flight (as opposed to hops or plunges) see this excellent and thorough explanation from Greg's Airplanes and Auto mobiles: ruclips.net/video/EkpQAGQiv4Q/видео.html
The Wright Brothers were self taught engineers. Their methodic and thorough approach to problem solving allowed them to achieve the first powered controlled flight.
For some reason there seems to be a great many air trolls from Brazil on this channel who haven't read the FAI's announcement on the Wright Brothers: "Keen cyclists, the Wright brothers opened their own bicycle sales and repairs shop before using what they had learned building bikes to take on the world of flight. They went on to achieve the first ever flights in a powered plane in 1903, and were also the inventors of the first passenger-carrying plane."
Wright Brothers have 5 years to show their Flyer to the people on many Prize Organizations to be the first heavier than air and self controled flight, but they run away from all of them, because their history was fake, sorry, was ''a secret', kkkkkk. Study about: Deutsch prize (1901), Saint Louis Science Exposition (1904), Archdeacon prize (1906), Scientific American Trophy (1908), Deutsch-Archdeacon Prize (1908), Aeroclub de France prize (1906). WB show a flight first time to the public just August 1908, when a lot of people are made amazing flights too. Before that, WB send a lot of text to newspaper telling a lie, no photos are send to the press, no Witnesses (oh yes, a farmer see it). There are no good evidence about 1903 photo first flight, because no one see it in that time. Sorry.
A 14 HP engine could never take off a 600 pounds Flyer, so they depended on wind and catapult for their glider, americans say the brothers invented wing warping, efficient propeller and wind tunnel (Chanute did them) but were not smart enough to increase the power to their engine to take off, only in 1910. They acctually were real dumb and insecure to compete with others like Louis Bleriot in 1909 to cross the English Channel.
Imagine those early pilots still trying to figure out and master how to control a plane in the air, building the skills that would be passed from one generation to another.
As Greg points out in his video, the Wright Brothers choice to use a canard elevator helped ensure they survived long enough to make it to powered flight. Unknown to the Wrights, or anyone else at the time, a canard layout tends to pancake when it stalls. While a "conventional" layout will tend to go nose-down when it stalls. Nobody, including the Wrights, understood wing stalls at the time. So they were going to stall, a lot. With a canard glider that tended to pancake into the ground when it stalled and the fact that their gliders were piloted while laying on their stomach, it meant that the Wrights design would let the pilot survive pretty significant impacts without injury.
1:08 can anybody tell me what that large building is in the background? I have been to the Kitty Hawk memorial site at Kill Devil Hills in the 1980s and in 2020 and I have not seen any such building. Maybe it got demolished years ago. Thanks!
Wilbur's 1903 flight was the longest: 852 ft. 59 sec. On Oct. 5, 1905, an official record of 24 miles ( 39 min) was recorded in Dayton, OH. This was essentially the same plane that Wilbur flew in France in 1908 and Orville flew in the US demonstrations in 1908 and 1909.
I had to make a correction. I thought it was 40 miles, but the specification required it to stay aloft for one hour at an average speed of 40MPH. The cross country flight for this trial was 10 miles.
Put up my about 1/6 scale model of the Wright Flier on the front lawn with Christmas lights this year; 2019. Maybe I should make a RUclips to show it off?
@@Smuggler169 Hey Thanks. Have had to store it outdoors so it may be too dilapidated to set up again. I may need to remake it. Just had a hip and a knee replaced and 67th B-day just went buy also. I hope to set it up next year.
@@sonhomeu1541 The Aero Club de France, the Aero Club of America, the Federation Aeronautique Internatioinale, Octave Chanute, Ferdinand Ferber, and the French Government all certified the Wrights as having flown in 1903. The December 1905 and January 1906 issues of L'Aerophile documented the Wrights' successful flights at Kitty Hawk, North Carolina and Dayton, Ohio. In point of fact, it was L'Aerophile's reportage of the Wrights that motivated Santos Dumont to cease experimentation with lighter-than-air aircraft and instead concentrate on heavier-than-air aircraft.
@@louisdaguerre6002 the Paris aeroclub recognized Dumont as "PIONEER OF AIR DIRIGIBILITY" IN A MONUMENT OF 1902 !!!!! official documentation exists and everyone knows it. FAI and France aeroclub recognized Dumont event FIRST AVIATION RECORD OF THE WORLD. Dumont had already started winning in 1901. There is no evidence with otos and documents that prove anything for the Wrights between 1903-1905
@@louisdaguerre6002 idiota, He won the award for creating the first efficient air handling system and proved it all. in 190. THE WRIGHT STATED THAT THEY WERE TRYING TO FLY IN UNCONTROLLABLE GLIDER. kkkk
Wilbur Wright explained wing warping to Blériot at an 1908 demonstration in France. Blerot immediately incorporated it into his 1909 Bleriot XI. Wikipedia: The principal difference was the use of wing warping for lateral control and the use of a new French design prop. The Chauvière Intégrale two-bladed scimitar propeller was a major advance in French aircraft technology and was the first European propeller to rival the efficiency of the propellers used by the Wright Brothers. (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bl%C3%A9riot_XI) The Bleriot had other innovations such as a simpler stick control system. The European pioneers of aviation had built a replica of the Wright Flyer (ca. 1906) but couldn't get it to fly. There is no evidence that they figured out wing warping until 1909.
Santos Dumont's Desmoiselle 20 incorporated an efficient Wright style propeller and Wright style wing warping. The Desmoiselle 20 was his only successful aircraft. Until then he never attempted coordinated turns.
The Wright brothers declared in 1909 the impracticality of the wing warping system and replaced it with ailerons. The Santos Dumont ailerons had been using since the 1906 flight
@@gilberto2056 The International Federation of Aeronautics declared the Wrights flew in 1903: www.fai.org/news/fai-celebrates-120th-anniversary-wright-brothers-first-biplane-kite-taking-flight
Uhuuuu Wright brothers's friend Captain Ferber opinion of Santos Dumont. 1906. "Le record fut porté a 220 m. un mois aprés et la nouvelle s’en repandit dans le monde entier avec la rapidité de éclair. Une ere nouvelle commençait à partir de cette date parce que le charme était rompu!”
Wrights' flights during 1903-1905: *"Airship Flight is a Success," The San Francisco Call, December 18, 1903, Page 1, Image 1, col. 7. *"A Machine that Flies," The Times Dispatch (Richmond, VA)0, December 19, 1903, Page 5, Image 5, col. 1. *"High Gale No Bar to Flying Machine," The Washington Times (Washington, DC), December 19, 1903, Page 10, Image 10, col. 1" *"Airship was a Great Success: The Wright brothers Give Out a Statement Regarding Their Recent Experiments," The Minneapolis Journal (Minneapolis, MN), January 5, 1904, Page 1, Image 1, col. 1. *"Ohio Inventors Claim Success in Flight," The Washington Times (Washington, DC), January 7, 1904, Page 3, Image 3, col. 4. "*A Machine that Flies: The Wright Brothers Declare that They Have Solved the Problem of Navigating the Air," The Watchman and Southern (Sumter, SC), January 13, 1904, Page 7, Image 7, col. 3. *"Flying machine that Flies," The San Francisco Call, (San Francisco, CA), October 9 1904, Page 13, Image 13, col 5-7. I could continue for another one hundred pages, but I've made my point.😎😎😎😎😎
Okay, applause for the Wrights who said they made all these flights and didn't show to anyone in that time ... and many people like you believe in Santa Claus! You can repeat anything that exists, but not even the United States Newspapers published a single Wright flight photo before 1908, two years after Dumont's flight. Find a single newspaper from your country proving that the Flyer really flight and not texts sent by Fake Brother telegram and then I will believe you.
@@MarcosPalhares The 1906 Pathé News Bagatelle Field footage proves the 14-bis failed to fly. Replicas of the 14-bis ca't fly without modern engines and modern propellers.
@@jindlespog8045 Why do you hate France? kkkkkk Please don't talk nonsense! FAI says Dumont was the first flight: www.fai.org/news/12-november-1906-first-flight-santos-dumont Aeroclub the France say the same aeroclub.com/chronologie/ Dumont never was motivated for someone who never shows their experiments because he was very democratic for the science, lÁerophile wrote by Ferber that never seem a WB flight before 1908. Too many lies, my friend. Please, stop to read fake news wrote by WB fanatics, not Scientist!
@@MarcosPalhares 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣The 1906 Pathé News Bagatelle Field footage proves the 14-bis failed to fly. Replicas of the 14-bis ca't fly without modern engines and modern propellers.
@@MarcosPalhares 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣The 1906 Pathé News Bagatelle Field footage proves the 14-bis failed to fly. Replicas of the 14-bis ca't fly without modern engines and modern propellers.
@@przemog88 Present here a link to a magazine or newspaper published between 1903-1907 with the report of only one flight and with PHOTOS OF THIS FLIGHT!, please. The official record of Dumont FIRST AVIATION RECORD OF THE WORLD was dated 1906. THE FIRST RECORD OF THE TWO IDIOTS OF DAYTON WAS MADE BY THE FAI ONLY ON 08.08.1908!!!!!!!
This record bother Americans a lot. And it shows that Santos Dumont was the first. It is the photo of the monument that says "FIRST AVIATION RECORD OF THE WORLD".en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campo_de_Jogos_de_Bagatelle
Not only did they engineer basic control flight , Wilbur was a great , " how to fly a powered aircraft innovator " .. 5 years later , it's carrying a pilot and a machine gun in a 1800 style war....
Muita gente escreve aquilo que aprendeu da professorinha, nos tempos de infância. E repete pra sempre que Santos Dumont foi o primeiro a voar... Pioneiros de outros países nem eram citados na escola e, se voaram antes de Dumont, então seu voo "não valeu". Mas a verdade se baseia nos fatos: os Irmãos Wright voaram antes: em 1903, com o Flyer I. E alguém pode dizer: mas foi catapultado!... Só que eles voaram depois com o Flyer II. Em 1905, o seu terceiro avião Flyer III já fazia voos de 40km!! E decolava sem catapulta (para aqueles que insistem nessa besteira de argumento). Finalmente, em maio de 1906, eles patentearam a sua "máquina de voar" (patente 821393A). E só em outubro de 1906 é que Dumont decolou com seu 14 Bis (que nem curvas fazia!) e fez um voo de poucos metros.
@@pedrovictor6982 Se o Flyer 3 não precisava de catapulta, porque o Flyer 4 de 1908 usa a catapulta como mostra as filmagens da época, sendo que ele tinha um motor mais potente que o Flyer 3. E porque a "máquina de voar" apresentada na patente não tem motor e se parece mais com o planador de 1902 deles.
@@pedrovictor6982 Eu não entendo como pode defender alguém que é de outro país e ainda está errado, kkkkk. Os irmãos Wright foram convidados em 1904 para se apresentarem na França com sua Máquina de Voar, mas eles não foram, nem nessa edição e nem em nenhuma dos anos seguintes, por que será? Além disso, quando eles foram mostrar seu avião para os críticos franceses em 1908(dois anos depois de Santos Dumont), eles disseram que não conseguiam acreditar como aquela máquina tinha voado 40km em 1905, porque na apresentação eles tinham utilizado trilhos para se impulsionar na decolagem e ainda assim não passaram de 300 metros. Outra coisa não tem nenhuma foto do avião deles que foi anterior a 1908 e a foto que está na patente deles(que pode ser encontrada na internet) é de um planador, o avião da foto nem tem motor, tem muita coisa estranha nessa história aí. Não estou dizendo que é impossível eles terem sido os primeiros a voar até porque eu não estava lá, mas eu prefiro acreditar na história de Santos Dumont, que foi bem documentada e noticiada em diversos países da Europa e do mundo todo.
@@pedrovictor6982 Outra coisa, os próprios Irmãos Wright escreveram em seu diário que compraram o motor do avião na Europa em 1908, para fazer a apresentação nesse mesmo ano, como?? Porque eles não usaram o motor do "suposto" avião, já que ele voava 40km?? Muitas coisas estranhas e desencaixadas na história deles.
Santos Dumont, the man, Santos Dumont, the sham. SD, the liar-flier. His ship never really attained stability in the air...just sort of hopped and bumped. The Wright brothers, OTOH, did achieve sustained flight at Kitty Hawk for just under a minute. The footage shows that, quite clearly. While it is true they used skids instead of wheels, and while they did use a catapult in some cases, nevertheless, their airplanes worked. They achieved sustained flight. The others--Langley, Santos Dumont, et. al.--did NOT. I realize that for any Brazilian contributors to this discussion it must burn not being Wright, er, right. I realize you must revere Santos Dumont. But he did not achieve consistent sustained flight while the Wright brothers did. Get over it.
Dorothy Gale precisely because of the Wrights pioneering...specifically Wilbur’s flights at Le Mans in France and in southern Spain, proving to a skeptical world once and for all that sustained flight could be done. After that, airplane manufacturers REALLY took off
There is some evidence for this. Wilbur Wright set a record in 1908 winning the Michelin Prize for that year. (4 hours) 124.7 km (77.5 mi) In 1908, Previous record was less than 1 mi The very next year, Henri Farman almost doubled their record flight Henri Farman flew 234 km (145.5 miles) on 3 Nov. 1909
lecheparavaka it’s a biplane so it can produce very high lift at a low speed due to the extra wing area. It’s also very light due to its wood and canvas construction so not that much lift is needed to allow it to take off.
@@TheJacobshapiro Do you have access to calculations indicating how much power is needed for take off? The Wright Flyer I and II weighed about 700 lbs. Some claim that 12 hp was not enough to get off the ground.
Steve Bett I don’t know exactly what airfoils they were using or what the exact wing area is, so it’d be impossible to calculate without those. However, planes with worse power/weight ratios have flown. The gossamer condor, the first human-powered airplane, weight 70lbs and flew with around 0.25hp, the most the human pilot could continuously produce by pedaling.
@@TheJacobshapiro I think we can provide you with the wing area and the basic airfoil information. San Pol thought that a 700 lbs aircraft could not lift off with 12 hp. This would violate the physics of flight. SP: This man powered plane (Gossamer Condor) is a high performance machine, and after a small jump , it can keep a descending rate so small, that the human power (*.25hp) could keep it in the air for some time, but hard to say it could repeat the flights since small atmosphere variations could have a big impact at the performance. The Flyer had a complete different design, less efficient, with the wings generating much more drag compared with the Condor. Anyway, there is no flight of a Flyer copy with the same power and original design that could repeat the claim made about the 1903 flight. REPLY
Everyone who visits this channel and views this video should click on this link to the International Federation of Aeronautics which declared the Wright Brothers flew on 1903: www.fai.org/news/fai-celebrates-120th-anniversary-wright-brothers-first-biplane-kite-taking-flight "Keen cyclists, the Wright brothers opened their own bicycle sales and repairs shop before using what they had learned building bikes to take on the world of flight. They went on to achieve the first ever flights in a powered plane in 1903, and were also the inventors of the first passenger-carrying plane."
In 1904 the air club of France invited the wrights to present their machine, prove their capacity and make a record. The Wrights never submitted anything and also did not amswered the letter.
By 1909 the Wright configuration looks a little outdated. That year Bleriot flew the channel. He used a a tractor monoplane which was the layout which led into future designs. Biplane canards were not the way aviation developed. Weight assisted takeoff? This was no longer necessary for Bleriot. His plane had wheels! The Wrights wing warping was soon replaced with hinged ailerons, which persist to this day.
Your technical observations are excellent, and I’ll respond to a particular point you’ve made. _”Weight assisted takeoff? This was no longer necessary for Bleriot. His plane had wheels!”_ The weight-assisted takeoff method used by the Wrights was only a _conditional_ necessity, not an absolute one. It allowed takeoff from surfaces unsuitable for a wheeled undercarriage, such as the dunes of Kill Devil Hills and the rutted Huffman Prairie, and without the need for excessive lengths of rail. It also mitigated the effect of a diminished headwind. So far as I know, Bleriot and other contemporaries did not face some of the physical impediments that the Wrights did. I think it’s fair to assume that had the Flyers attempted takeoff from a smooth and hard surface of sufficient length, they would have succeeded. (Wilbur actually did this in Europe, for demonstration purposes.) Eventually, the Wrights came to view assisted takeoff as a superior method, even when better physical conditions were present. For one thing, it allowed a short takeoff (~60 feet) in any direction, on short notice. Early on, the Wrights seemed to predict that future aviation wouldn’t depend on long, graded runways and lots of real estate. It wasn’t a terrible prediction, but it was obviously mistaken.
At the same time in 1909 Louis Bleriot flew across the English channel in a much more advanced airplane. The Wright Bros in protecting their patents with numerous lawsuits, greatly restricted advancement in aircraft design in the USA. US aircraft design was so limited, that in WW1 US pilots had to fly French and British designs.
@Joe Duke Chanute was the engineer for the brothers who were dropped outs from high school. Bleriot design basics is here to this date, all replicas from Europe flew except the Flyer a Paraphernalia Plane that could not fly its replica after 100 years, all others did.
@Joe Duke Chanute was the engineer for the brothers who were dropped outs from high school. Bleriot design basics is here to this date, all replicas from Europe flew except the Flyer a Paraphernalia Plane that could not fly its replica after 100 years, all others did.
Until engine technology in power to weight ratios improved all heavier than air flying machines needed the advantages of headwinds and/or catapults. Notice that aircraft carriers still use these techniques?
French experts who recorded Wright's real first flight in 1908 said that the machine would never fly 35 km in 1905. In 1908 on the first wright's fly the machine flew 337 meters only. Fact
The french expert's opinion about Wright brothers First flight, 1908. "They still glided down the slope. How can I believe that the two brothers were able to fly about 40 minutes in 1905 in Dayton, Ohio over a flat pasture if they still needed a hill and strong winds to fly in May 1908."
You keep bringing up this “French expert,” but you never actually give their name. It’s also interesting that you talk about a slope. The Wrights’ demonstrations in France were at a horse racing track. Horse tracks are flat.
Controlled flight is final word here. Previous attempts acheived flight but they were not controlled about all axis and could not be sustained. That was the genius of the Wright's airplane, they acheived control about all axis, low enough weight and high enough power for sustained, controlled flight.
Maxim deserves a lot of credit. He was a genius inventor. But his aircraft only lifted off the ground for brief periods and was tethered to the ground because it could not be controlled. It was used as an amusement park ride. He could not make sustained, controlled, powered flight.
That plane didn't fly. It did not have any controls and was tethered to a rail to prevent lift-off which would have been disastrous without control surfaces. If Maxim had pursued it, maybe he could have come up with a workable model.
The monument in Kitty Hawk NC says the Wrights flew in 1903. Santos Dumont didn't fly until 1909 when he built the Desmoiselle 20. Watch the original film of Santos Dumont in 1906. It shows nothing but a short little hop, not a sustained flight. There are many copies of this film on RUclips. Watch it and see for yourself. Film doesn't lie.
@@fredlarsen8292 Guy, The American monument was built after Orville's death in the 1940's. 'The Dumont monument has been recognized by France's aeroclub since 1906 and is an official FAI registration. The other monument has been recognized for Dumont since 1902 !!!! Present here A monument that the authorities built for the Wrights between 1903-1905 that says that they presented the first Record
@@fredlarsen8292 Don't exist 220 meters jump!! Dumont performed the flight with: run, takeoff, land under its own Power and landing.The record of archdeacom and the French air club in monument says that Dumont made the "FIRST AVIATION RECORD OF THE WORLD." the end, Guy, Dumont won in 1906.
@@fredlarsen8292Dumont's filming and photos have always been present in films, magazines, newspapers. The wright's pictures and footages appeared only 1908 !!!
@@fredlarsen8292 The 1901 record for Dumont shows that Dumont started to win. "PIONEER OF AERIAL DIRIGIBILITY" in this period, the Wrights almost killed themselves with uncontrollable gliders.
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Katharine Wright was my great-great aunt (she married my great-grandfather Edward Haskell's brother, Henry Haskell.) I think that's her around 0:23.
The whole world shifted on that momentous day. We are so fortunate to have had Mr Edison’s (who also shifted the world) marvellous new invention to capture it
When Santos Dumont flew the 14 bis in 1906, the Wright Brothers had already built and flown three different heavier-than-air flying machines: 1) the 1903 Flyer, which took off under its own power and flew 852 feet (260 m) while remaining in the air 59 seconds; 2) the 1904 Flyer which also took off under its own power and was the first heavier-than-air craft to fly in a complete circle as well as covering a distance of 4,080 feet; and 3) the 1905 Flyer which also took off under its own power and flew a distance of twenty-four miles, including several circular maneuvers. On the other hand, Santos Dumont's 14-bis was uncontrollable and was only capable of flying short distances in a straight line.😎😎😎😎😎
to be a fraud Dumont would need to look like the Wright brothers stories. You talk with me for several days and you still haven't shown a simple newspaper photo with the Wright Brothers before 1908. You should have already proven, dont you? You just prove is a fraud like Fake Brothers, you ran away like them. I still love to answer you, because you help my channel audience and that helps rank Dumont on RUclips. Thank you little kid!
Jindle Fraud brothers this is the correct name for these two shamers.
@@MarcosPalhares " Keen cyclists, the Wright brothers opened their own bicycle sales and repairs shop before using what they had learned building bikes to take on the world of flight. They went on to achieve the first ever flights in a powered plane in 1903, and were also the inventors of the first passenger-carrying plane. " www.fai.org/news/fai-celebrates-120th-anniversary-wright-brothers-first-biplane-kite-taking-flight
@@MarcosPalhares The FAI says the Wrights flew first. The first video of 14-bis in Paris shows failure.
Wright Brothers have 5 years to show their Flyer to the people on many Prize Organizations to be the first heavier than air and self controled flight, but they run away from all of them, because their history was fake:
Deutsch prize (1901), Saint Louis Science Exposition (1904), Archdeacon prize (1906), Scientific American Trophy (1908), Deutsch-Archdeacon Prize (1908), Aeroclub de France prize (1906).
Wow! That is some awesome movie footage I have never seen before. This shows it all, in pretty much the same thing as at Kitty Hawk it shows how while other people’s inventions went from up to down flying a little , theirs went from down to up and kept right on going.
Wright brothers were the greatest. Hands down way ahead of everybody.
Regardless of who actually flew a plane first, the Wright Bros created the first effective aviation control system of yaw, pitch, and roll in 1903 with the Wright Flyer. This is necessary for _any_ heavier-than-air plane to fly. The rest of what you say is just, "I like my guy, he's from my country, he flew first".
...this and - the Wright Brothers flew first.
Really?
@@TheJumpingAnt Absolutely
@@PatCrowe Not.This is the first movie evidence.Liers brothers did not fly in 1903 (the foto can be fake)
@@AlmirBispo-CSV-Comp-DB "Can be fake"? Really? Hmm, since you can be a liar I will ignore anything you write, that is quite fair, right?
2023,..Very cool! I'm 69, I grew up in Cleveland, Ohio and I have lived in Columbus, Ohio since 1977. As a retired senior citizen I have been enjoying all the videos about the incredible achievements of the Wright Brothers. In my youth we were probably taught a little about them, more of footnote, and never a deep dive. Recently I have been spending my time learning more about them. Watching old-time films, that are now videos on You Tube. Since my 40s I have become more interested in the early inventions of our past. A lot of inventions having to do with flight, came from people of Ohio.
I’m 69 sometime along the way I habited reading obituaries. I think it was in the early 90’s read of the passing of a man whose Pilot’s License was issued by Orville Wright.
@@davidcouch6514 A valuable artifact, for sure.
111 years ago in 2020, "WOW".
The Aero Club de France were well informed about the Wrights beginning in 1900 when Wilbur Wright began corresponding with founding member Octave Chanute. Impressed with the Wrights' progress, Chanute traveled to the United States to visit them at Kitty Hawk in 1901, 1902, and at Dayton, Ohio in 1903. After his 1903 visit, Octave Chanute delivered a lecture to the Aero Club de France in which he described the Wrights' experiments with gliders and their plans to fly a powered aircraft. Present at Octave Chanute's 1903 lecture was a French artillery captain named Ferdinand Ferber who likewise traveled to the United States and visited the Wrights at Huffman Prairie in Dayton, Ohio. After meeting the Wrights, Ferdinand Ferber declared himself a "disciple of Wright" and in 1904 built a copy of a Wright-style glider, describing it as a "type du Wright." Relying on information gained during these and other visits to the Wrights, the December 1905 and January 1906 editions of L'Aerophile (the official journal of the Aero Club de France) confirmed the Wrights' successful flight of a powered heavier-than-air airplane.😎😎😎😎
they not confirmed anything, the L´Aerophile did exactly the same as some newspapers of that time, only replicated a Wright text that was never confirmed with the presence of a journalist and with photos that proved what was said. The truth is photo currently reported by Americans 1903-1905 Flyer Wright has NEVER been seen because as the bluff brothers themselves said in their numerous letters and which can be read today in the Aviation Library of the American Congress, the Flyer was a secret ... or rather, did not exist. That is why the photos today attributed by Americans to 1903-1905 are artificial proof, no one saw these photos before 1909. A lie, just a lie.
they not confirmed anything, the L´Aerophile did exactly the same as some newspapers of that time, only replicated a Wright text that was never confirmed with the presence of a journalist and with photos that proved what was said. The truth is photo currently reported by Americans 1903-1905 Flyer Wright has NEVER been seen because as the bluff brothers themselves said in their numerous letters and which can be read today in the Aviation Library of the American Congress, the Flyer was a secret ... or rather, did not exist. That is why the photos today attributed by Americans to 1903-1905 are artificial proof, no one saw these photos before 1909. A lie, just a lie.
@@MarcosPalhares uhuuuu this is the true. Wright brothers was the great liar
The nominations you made, all the newspapers and magazines show written on paper made by the two shamer brothers, friends of the Wrights and wright employees. HAS NO PHOTO.
@@MarcosPalhares " Keen cyclists, the Wright brothers opened their own bicycle sales and repairs shop before using what they had learned building bikes to take on the world of flight. They went on to achieve the first ever flights in a powered plane in 1903, and were also the inventors of the first passenger-carrying plane. " www.fai.org/news/fai-celebrates-120th-anniversary-wright-brothers-first-biplane-kite-taking-flight
Camera panning with flying aircraft at 5.25 - wonderful!
Modern replicas replicas of the 14-bis incorporate modern alloys fabricated with modern technology (i.e. arc welding) and are equipped with modern Rotax aero engines & propellers. Any resemblances between them and the original are purely cosmetic. Furthermore, the primitive "air paddle" installed on the original was only 12% efficient. Combined with the high parasitic drag coefficient of the original and its inadequate (not to say non-existent) controls, the original 14-bis only ever achieved short hops in conditions of complete calm. Moreover, the excess dihedral of the 14-bis only served to increase its instability in even the gentlest cross winds.
FLyer can´t fly because is a lie ruclips.net/video/sL5qDUAvGHs/видео.html
Centennial Guy, the Centennial proved it. Wright brothers don't fly.
@@gilbertonedeljunior4825 No, it flies just fine. ruclips.net/video/Ckg_oMeS00U/видео.html 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@jindlespog8045 no, Centennial proof, the Wright brothers's replica don't flew. This replica 😂😂😂😂😂Fully modernized and is not flyer 1, or 2.
" Keen cyclists, the Wright brothers opened their own bicycle sales and repairs shop before using what they had learned building bikes to take on the world of flight. They went on to achieve the first ever flights in a powered plane in 1903, and were also the inventors of the first passenger-carrying plane. " www.fai.org/news/fai-celebrates-120th-anniversary-wright-brothers-first-biplane-kite-taking-flight
The Aero Club of America, Aero Club de France, the Federation Aeronautique Internatioinale, Octave Chenault, Ferdinand Ferber, and the French Government all certified the Wrights as having flown in 1903. The December 1905 and January 1906 issues of L'Aerophile documented the Wrights' successful flights at Kitty Hawk, North Carolina and Dayton, Ohio. In point of fact, it was L'Aerophile's reportage of the Wrights that motivated Santos Dumont to cease experimentation with lighter-than-air aircraft and instead concentrate on heavier-than-air aircraft.
Why do you hate France? kkkkkk Please don't talk nonsense! FAI says Dumont was the first: www.fai.org/news/12-november-1906-first-flight-santos-dumont Aeroclub the France say the same aeroclub.com/chronologie/ Dumont never was motivated for someone who never shows their experiments because he was very democratic for the science, lÁerophile wrote by Ferber that never seem a WB flight before 1908. Too many lies, my friend. Please, stop to read fake news wrote by WB fanatics, not Scientist!
@@MarcosPalharesThe Aero Club of America, Aero Club de France, the Federation Aeronautique Internatioinale, Octave Chenault, Ferdinand Ferber, and the French Government all certified the Wrights as having flown in 1903. The December 1905 and January 1906 issues of L'Aerophile documented the Wrights' successful flights at Kitty Hawk, North Carolina and Dayton, Ohio. In point of fact, it was L'Aerophile's reportage of the Wrights that motivated Santos Dumont to cease experimentation with lighter-than-air aircraft and instead concentrate on heavier-than-air aircraft. Why do you accuse the French of lying? Why do you hate France?
@@jindlespog8045 they not confirmed anything, the L´Aerophile did exactly the same as some newspapers of that time, only replicated a Wright text that was never confirmed with the presence of a journalist and with photos that proved what was said. The truth is photo currently reported by Americans 1903-1905 Flyer Wright has NEVER been seen because as the bluff brothers themselves said in their numerous letters and which can be read today in the Aviation Library of the American Congress, the Flyer was a secret ... or rather, did not exist. That is why the photos today attributed by Americans to 1903-1905 are artificial proof, no one saw these photos before 1909. A lie, just a lie.
@@MarcosPalhares 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣The 1906 Pathé News Bagatelle Field footage proves the 14-bis failed to fly. Replicas of the 14-bis ca't fly without modern engines and modern propellers.
@@MarcosPalhares 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣The 1906 Pathé News Bagatelle Field footage proves the 14-bis failed to fly. Replicas of the 14-bis ca't fly without modern engines and modern propellers.
This is one of the great inventions of the ages along with Watt/s steam engine and Gutenberg's printing press among others. It's hard to believe that just 38 years after this the sound barrier was officially broken in level flight by the Bell X 1 with Chuck Yeager in October, 14 1947. Some had broken it in dives but they had a hard time documenting it.
And 60 years later we were on the moon. From horse and buggy to the moon in one lifetime.
When Santos Dumont attempted to fly the 14-bis in 1906, the Wright Brothers had already built and flown three different heavier-than-air flying machines: 1) the 1903 Flyer, which Took off under its own power and flew 852 feet (260 m) in 59 seconds, 2) the 1904 Flyer, which Took off under its own power and was the first heavier-than-air craft to fly in a complete circle as well as covering a distance of 4,080 feet during the same flight. Aviation pioneer Octave Chanute Observed many of the Flyer's 2 flights, and 3) the 1905 Flyer, which Took off under its own power and flew a distance of twenty-four miles, including circular several maneuvers. The Flyer was Also the world's first aircraft capable of carrying a passenger.😊😊😊😊
The fact is Wright Brothers ran away from photos and the press until 1908 because they didn't have an airplane. In 1906 they obtained a patent for "invention of aerial machine" that had no engine! kkkkkk You can search this information because it is public and as always the Americans wishing to take over the creation of the world! Wright Brothers are fake!
Events without proofs where the photos, filming, official registration, the monument for them are between 1903-1905. You write all this without official evidence, where the official evidence is.
@@MarcosPalhares " Keen cyclists, the Wright brothers opened their own bicycle sales and repairs shop before using what they had learned building bikes to take on the world of flight. They went on to achieve the first ever flights in a powered plane in 1903, and were also the inventors of the first passenger-carrying plane. " www.fai.org/news/fai-celebrates-120th-anniversary-wright-brothers-first-biplane-kite-taking-flight
@@MarcosPalhares " Keen cyclists, the Wright brothers opened their own bicycle sales and repairs shop before using what they had learned building bikes to take on the world of flight. They went on to achieve the first ever flights in a powered plane in 1903, and were also the inventors of the first passenger-carrying plane. " www.fai.org/news/fai-celebrates-120th-anniversary-wright-brothers-first-biplane-kite-taking-flight
@@MarcosPalhares This may come as a shock but the International Federation of Aeronautics disagrees with you: www.fai.org/news/fai-celebrates-120th-anniversary-wright-brothers-first-biplane-kite-taking-flight
"Keen cyclists, the Wright brothers opened their own bicycle sales and repairs shop before using what they had learned building bikes to take on the world of flight. They went on to achieve the first ever flights in a powered plane in 1903, and were also the inventors of the first passenger-carrying plane."
The Wright's were carrying a passenger on these flights. Thus the need for the catapult and weight launch as they looked to be using the same design as the original flyer, , or may even have been using the same machine even at this late stage.
There is photographic proof of the first flight and it pre-dates Dumont's claim. That first flight may have been a short hop, and may have used a catapult launch but there is no denying that it was a sustained, controlled flight by a heavier than air machine regardless of the way it was launched.
Also, if you play this video at 50% speed it marked it almos normal speed as far as the people's motion goes.
The Wrights did not use a catapult in 1903. They used a ~27 mph headwind instead.
They used the catapult launch later because it was cheaper than making a smooth runway and it let them always take off into the wind.
really enjoyed that, thanks to who posted this.
For all of those doubt that the Wright Brothers invented heavier than air flight (as opposed to hops or plunges) see this excellent and thorough explanation from Greg's Airplanes and Auto mobiles:
ruclips.net/video/EkpQAGQiv4Q/видео.html
Glad to see he's getting attention! I'm here from his video actually lol
Is there a replica of the Wright brothers' FLYER 1 that flew? Do you have videos?
The Wright Brothers were self taught engineers. Their methodic and thorough approach to problem solving allowed them to achieve the first powered controlled flight.
what amazing footage.. thankyou for sharing this 🙂
Extremely good footage. Thank you.
For some reason there seems to be a great many air trolls from Brazil on this channel who haven't read the FAI's announcement on the Wright Brothers: "Keen cyclists, the Wright brothers opened their own bicycle sales and repairs shop before using what they had learned building bikes to take on the world of flight. They went on to achieve the first ever flights in a powered plane in 1903, and were also the inventors of the first passenger-carrying plane."
Wright Brothers have 5 years to show their Flyer to the people on many Prize Organizations to be the first heavier than air and self controled flight, but they run away from all of them, because their history was fake, sorry, was ''a secret', kkkkkk. Study about:
Deutsch prize (1901), Saint Louis Science Exposition (1904), Archdeacon prize (1906), Scientific American Trophy (1908), Deutsch-Archdeacon Prize (1908), Aeroclub de France prize (1906). WB show a flight first time to the public just August 1908, when a lot of people are made amazing flights too. Before that, WB send a lot of text to newspaper telling a lie, no photos are send to the press, no Witnesses (oh yes, a farmer see it). There are no good evidence about 1903 photo first flight, because no one see it in that time. Sorry.
A 14 HP engine could never take off a 600 pounds Flyer, so they depended on wind and catapult for their glider, americans say the brothers invented wing warping, efficient propeller and wind tunnel (Chanute did them) but were not smart enough to increase the power to their engine to take off, only in 1910. They acctually were real dumb and insecure to compete with others like Louis Bleriot in 1909 to cross the English Channel.
Frol this to the Moon in just 60 years. Amazing
Imagine those early pilots still trying to figure out and master how to control a plane in the air, building the skills that would be passed from one generation to another.
As Greg points out in his video, the Wright Brothers choice to use a canard elevator helped ensure they survived long enough to make it to powered flight.
Unknown to the Wrights, or anyone else at the time, a canard layout tends to pancake when it stalls. While a "conventional" layout will tend to go nose-down when it stalls. Nobody, including the Wrights, understood wing stalls at the time. So they were going to stall, a lot. With a canard glider that tended to pancake into the ground when it stalled and the fact that their gliders were piloted while laying on their stomach, it meant that the Wrights design would let the pilot survive pretty significant impacts without injury.
even on "modern aiplane" you still had to learn "how to"
@@awancah7309 true, but I was referring to learning something no one could teach you yet.
At 3:22 was that guy on his cell phone? The most incredible thing was happening and he’s looking down at something
Camera probably.
Probably rolling a cigarette
Might be a box camera
Did not know the wright airplane could carry two people. Very impressed this was photographed by Edison.
The great problem. This footage 1908. Dumont photos, footage and oficial Record 1906.
@@paulyouth8342 Stop with this propaganda bs. Wrights were flying since 1903.
1:08 can anybody tell me what that large building is in the background? I have been to the Kitty Hawk memorial site at Kill Devil Hills in the 1980s and in 2020 and I have not seen any such building. Maybe it got demolished years ago. Thanks!
Brilliant idea and brilliant brother
Man I'd have loved to been there,anyone know how far they flew on the distance flt,
Wilbur's 1903 flight was the longest: 852 ft. 59 sec.
On Oct. 5, 1905, an official record of 24 miles ( 39 min) was recorded in Dayton, OH. This was essentially the same plane that Wilbur flew in France in 1908 and Orville flew in the US demonstrations in 1908 and 1909.
I had to make a correction. I thought it was 40 miles, but the specification required it to stay aloft for one hour at an average speed of 40MPH. The cross country flight for this trial was 10 miles.
Lt. Lahm lived to be 85, a retired brigadier general. They did not all die young.
At the old video of the Wright brothers who is the Mr. president number 27
Put up my about 1/6 scale model of the Wright Flier on the front lawn with Christmas lights this year; 2019. Maybe I should make a RUclips to show it off?
Did you do it this year?
@@Smuggler169 I did not put it up this year. but here's the YT link to how it looked back then: ruclips.net/video/kEk13bw5BIk/видео.html
@@clavo3352 watched it, that’s awesome! 👍
@@Smuggler169 Hey Thanks. Have had to store it outdoors so it may be too dilapidated to set up again. I may need to remake it. Just had a hip and a knee replaced and 67th B-day just went buy also. I hope to set it up next year.
Wonder what they were talking about as they flew
Probably not much over the engine and wind noise!
Orville: “Look, no hands!”
The Time Machine, also from that era, was also moved on skids.
Wonder what people would've thought if an F-22 went screaming by...
College Park is still an airport(barely) 9/11 really affected flight in the area due to the proximity to D.C.
It's such a nice coincidence that the video camera was invented right at the time of the first airplane
The Wrights taught everyone else how to fly.
Nobody saw them fly in Europe before 1908, Santos Dumont was considered the first man to fly.
@@alvarohigino keyword, was.
And now we stand in line waiting to be shoved into a sardine can, eating pretzels.
Why with all the technology available is this shown at the wrong speed
I guess it keeps it historically accurate, as in that is the way it would have been played at the time
An amazing thing to see.
Would the brothers faint if they where woken and saw an SR71 in full after burner?
I daresay I might if I woke up and saw that first thing
Props to the cameraman recording with a shaky potato
This was before the Titanic! Wow
Wright brothers 👏👏👏👏👏
Don't exist takeoff's capacity.
This machine is headwind and catapult's dependent.
@@sonhomeu1541 The Aero Club de France, the Aero Club of America, the Federation Aeronautique Internatioinale, Octave Chanute, Ferdinand Ferber, and the French Government all certified the Wrights as having flown in 1903. The December 1905 and January 1906 issues of L'Aerophile documented the Wrights' successful flights at Kitty Hawk, North Carolina and Dayton, Ohio. In point of fact, it was L'Aerophile's reportage of the Wrights that motivated Santos Dumont to cease experimentation with lighter-than-air aircraft and instead concentrate on heavier-than-air aircraft.
@@louisdaguerre6002 the Paris aeroclub recognized Dumont as "PIONEER OF AIR DIRIGIBILITY" IN A MONUMENT OF 1902 !!!!! official documentation exists and everyone knows it. FAI and France aeroclub recognized Dumont event FIRST AVIATION RECORD OF THE WORLD. Dumont had already started winning in 1901. There is no evidence with otos and documents that prove anything for the Wrights between 1903-1905
@@sonhomeu1541 Dirigibles are not airplanes. Do you even know the difference?
@@louisdaguerre6002 idiota, He won the award for creating the first efficient air handling system and proved it all. in 190. THE WRIGHT STATED THAT THEY WERE TRYING TO FLY IN UNCONTROLLABLE GLIDER. kkkk
Wilbur Wright explained wing warping to Blériot at an 1908 demonstration in France. Blerot immediately incorporated it into his 1909 Bleriot XI.
Wikipedia: The principal difference was the use of wing warping for lateral control and the use of a new French design prop. The Chauvière Intégrale two-bladed scimitar propeller was a major advance in French aircraft technology and was the first European propeller to rival the efficiency of the propellers used by the Wright Brothers. (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bl%C3%A9riot_XI)
The Bleriot had other innovations such as a simpler stick control system.
The European pioneers of aviation had built a replica of the Wright Flyer (ca. 1906) but couldn't get it to fly. There is no evidence that they figured out wing warping until 1909.
Santos Dumont's Desmoiselle 20 incorporated an efficient Wright style propeller and Wright style wing warping. The Desmoiselle 20 was his only successful aircraft. Until then he never attempted coordinated turns.
The Wright brothers declared in 1909 the impracticality of the wing warping system and replaced it with ailerons. The Santos Dumont ailerons had been using since the 1906 flight
@@gilberto2056 The International Federation of Aeronautics declared the Wrights flew in 1903: www.fai.org/news/fai-celebrates-120th-anniversary-wright-brothers-first-biplane-kite-taking-flight
@@gilberto2056 www.fai.org/news/fai-celebrates-120th-anniversary-wright-brothers-first-biplane-kite-taking-flight
That was 5 years after the first flight.
watching 2019
Set the playback speed to 0.75 times normal speed, it’s much more realistic that way.
Anyone seen film of them landing?
Here is a video of the first model landing. ruclips.net/video/-kjRL-Q-KBc/видео.html&ab_channel=OldMovieCollector
@@davidbrogan606 Thanks for that.
3:21 that one dude lookin at his phone smh
Welcome to North Carolina 🎉
Imagine when people look back on 2021 in the year 3021 or 4021. A 1000 or two years from now. Wonder if we will look as primitive?
Watching December 17, 2021 from Ohio.
Uhuuuu
Wright brothers's friend Captain Ferber opinion of Santos Dumont. 1906.
"Le record fut porté a 220 m. un mois aprés et la nouvelle s’en repandit dans le monde entier avec la rapidité de éclair. Une ere nouvelle commençait à partir de cette date parce que le charme était rompu!”
Wrights' flights during 1903-1905: *"Airship Flight is a Success," The San Francisco Call, December 18, 1903, Page 1, Image 1, col. 7. *"A Machine that Flies," The Times Dispatch (Richmond, VA)0, December 19, 1903, Page 5, Image 5, col. 1. *"High Gale No Bar to Flying Machine," The Washington Times (Washington, DC), December 19, 1903, Page 10, Image 10, col. 1" *"Airship was a Great Success: The Wright brothers Give Out a Statement Regarding Their Recent Experiments," The Minneapolis Journal (Minneapolis, MN), January 5, 1904, Page 1, Image 1, col. 1. *"Ohio Inventors Claim Success in Flight," The Washington Times (Washington, DC), January 7, 1904, Page 3, Image 3, col. 4. "*A Machine that Flies: The Wright Brothers Declare that They Have Solved the Problem of Navigating the Air," The Watchman and Southern (Sumter, SC), January 13, 1904, Page 7, Image 7, col. 3. *"Flying machine that Flies," The San Francisco Call, (San Francisco, CA), October 9 1904, Page 13, Image 13, col 5-7. I could continue for another one hundred pages, but I've made my point.😎😎😎😎😎
Okay, applause for the Wrights who said they made all these flights and didn't show to anyone in that time ... and many people like you believe in Santa Claus! You can repeat anything that exists, but not even the United States Newspapers published a single Wright flight photo before 1908, two years after Dumont's flight. Find a single newspaper from your country proving that the Flyer really flight and not texts sent by Fake Brother telegram and then I will believe you.
@@MarcosPalhares The 1906 Pathé News Bagatelle Field footage proves the 14-bis failed to fly. Replicas of the 14-bis ca't fly without modern engines and modern propellers.
@@jindlespog8045 Why do you hate France? kkkkkk Please don't talk nonsense! FAI says Dumont was the first flight: www.fai.org/news/12-november-1906-first-flight-santos-dumont Aeroclub the France say the same aeroclub.com/chronologie/ Dumont never was motivated for someone who never shows their experiments because he was very democratic for the science, lÁerophile wrote by Ferber that never seem a WB flight before 1908. Too many lies, my friend. Please, stop to read fake news wrote by WB fanatics, not Scientist!
@@MarcosPalhares 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣The 1906 Pathé News Bagatelle Field footage proves the 14-bis failed to fly. Replicas of the 14-bis ca't fly without modern engines and modern propellers.
@@MarcosPalhares 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣The 1906 Pathé News Bagatelle Field footage proves the 14-bis failed to fly. Replicas of the 14-bis ca't fly without modern engines and modern propellers.
If camera would have been there earlier then a lot of 19 th century would also have been recorded
Dumont 1906!!!
Wrights 1903!!!
@@przemog88 Present here a link to a magazine or newspaper published between 1903-1907 with the report of only one flight and with PHOTOS OF THIS FLIGHT!, please. The official record of Dumont FIRST AVIATION RECORD OF THE WORLD was dated 1906. THE FIRST RECORD OF THE TWO IDIOTS OF DAYTON WAS MADE BY THE FAI ONLY ON 08.08.1908!!!!!!!
Parts of that plane has been to the Moon and Mars
This record bother Americans a lot. And it shows that Santos Dumont was the first. It is the photo of the monument that says "FIRST AVIATION RECORD OF THE WORLD".en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campo_de_Jogos_de_Bagatelle
Looks like the time machine in the movie by that name.
I wonder if the audience was as blown away as I am right now.
You think it was so what . . . . . another carnival trick ?
Just think what these people would think if they saw a 747 suddenly fly overhead
Wow! Fantastic! Now, show me a movie of the 1903 "flight"...
Remarkable!
Not only did they engineer basic control flight , Wilbur was a great , " how to fly a powered aircraft innovator " .. 5 years later , it's carrying a pilot and a machine gun in a 1800 style war....
1909 --- the year Glenn Curtiss won the first international Air meet in France. 😁
3:26 Passenger ' Ok pilot, take this plane to Cuba!'
The catapult could not be used
Muita gente escreve aquilo que aprendeu da professorinha, nos tempos de infância. E repete pra sempre que Santos Dumont foi o primeiro a voar...
Pioneiros de outros países nem eram citados na escola e, se voaram antes de Dumont, então seu voo "não valeu".
Mas a verdade se baseia nos fatos: os Irmãos Wright voaram antes: em 1903, com o Flyer I. E alguém pode dizer: mas foi catapultado!... Só que eles voaram depois com o Flyer II. Em 1905, o seu terceiro avião Flyer III já fazia voos de 40km!! E decolava sem catapulta (para aqueles que insistem nessa besteira de argumento).
Finalmente, em maio de 1906, eles patentearam a sua "máquina de voar" (patente 821393A). E só em outubro de 1906 é que Dumont decolou com seu 14 Bis (que nem curvas fazia!) e fez um voo de poucos metros.
@@pedrovictor6982 Se o Flyer 3 não precisava de catapulta, porque o Flyer 4 de 1908 usa a catapulta como mostra as filmagens da época, sendo que ele tinha um motor mais potente que o Flyer 3.
E porque a "máquina de voar" apresentada na patente não tem motor e se parece mais com o planador de 1902 deles.
@@pedrovictor6982 Eu não entendo como pode defender alguém que é de outro país e ainda está errado, kkkkk. Os irmãos Wright foram convidados em 1904 para se apresentarem na França com sua Máquina de Voar, mas eles não foram, nem nessa edição e nem em nenhuma dos anos seguintes, por que será? Além disso, quando eles foram mostrar seu avião para os críticos franceses em 1908(dois anos depois de Santos Dumont), eles disseram que não conseguiam acreditar como aquela máquina tinha voado 40km em 1905, porque na apresentação eles tinham utilizado trilhos para se impulsionar na decolagem e ainda assim não passaram de 300 metros. Outra coisa não tem nenhuma foto do avião deles que foi anterior a 1908 e a foto que está na patente deles(que pode ser encontrada na internet) é de um planador, o avião da foto nem tem motor, tem muita coisa estranha nessa história aí. Não estou dizendo que é impossível eles terem sido os primeiros a voar até porque eu não estava lá, mas eu prefiro acreditar na história de Santos Dumont, que foi bem documentada e noticiada em diversos países da Europa e do mundo todo.
@@pedrovictor6982 Outra coisa, os próprios Irmãos Wright escreveram em seu diário que compraram o motor do avião na Europa em 1908, para fazer a apresentação nesse mesmo ano, como?? Porque eles não usaram o motor do "suposto" avião, já que ele voava 40km?? Muitas coisas estranhas e desencaixadas na história deles.
Imagine being an 8 year old seeing this
and then watching men walk on the moon
The brothers' machine was precarious in 1909 !!!!
This is not the first flight at Kitty Hawk.
Is this angry birds live action?
Santos Dumont, the man,
Santos Dumont, the sham.
SD, the liar-flier.
His ship never really attained stability in the air...just sort of hopped and bumped. The Wright brothers, OTOH, did achieve sustained flight at Kitty Hawk for just under a minute. The footage shows that, quite clearly. While it is true they used skids instead of wheels, and while they did use a catapult in some cases, nevertheless, their airplanes worked. They achieved sustained flight.
The others--Langley, Santos Dumont, et. al.--did NOT. I realize that for any Brazilian contributors to this discussion it must burn not being Wright, er, right. I realize you must revere Santos Dumont. But he did not achieve consistent sustained flight while the Wright brothers did. Get over it.
By 1909 the Europeans were already pulling ahead of the Wrights.
Dorothy Gale precisely because of the Wrights pioneering...specifically Wilbur’s flights at Le Mans in France and in southern Spain, proving to a skeptical world once and for all that sustained flight could be done. After that, airplane manufacturers REALLY took off
There is some evidence for this. Wilbur Wright set a record in 1908
winning the Michelin Prize for that year. (4 hours)
124.7 km (77.5 mi)
In 1908, Previous record was less than 1 mi
The very next year, Henri Farman almost doubled their record flight
Henri Farman flew 234 km (145.5 miles) on 3 Nov. 1909
Balls of concrete.
how is it that a plane can fly at so low speed? I'm no engineer
lecheparavaka it’s a biplane so it can produce very high lift at a low speed due to the extra wing area. It’s also very light due to its wood and canvas construction so not that much lift is needed to allow it to take off.
@@TheJacobshapiro Do you have access to calculations indicating how much power is needed for take off?
The Wright Flyer I and II weighed about 700 lbs. Some claim that 12 hp was not enough to get off the ground.
Steve Bett I don’t know exactly what airfoils they were using or what the exact wing area is, so it’d be impossible to calculate without those. However, planes with worse power/weight ratios have flown. The gossamer condor, the first human-powered airplane, weight 70lbs and flew with around 0.25hp, the most the human pilot could continuously produce by pedaling.
@@TheJacobshapiro Thanks. I will get you the wing area and airfoil used for the Wright Flyer 1903.
12 hp, 90 ftlbs thrust, 700 lbs,
@@TheJacobshapiro I think we can provide you with the wing area and the basic airfoil information. San Pol thought that a 700 lbs aircraft could not lift off with 12 hp. This would violate the physics of flight.
SP: This man powered plane (Gossamer Condor) is a high performance machine, and after a small jump , it can keep a descending rate so small, that
the human power (*.25hp) could keep it in the air for some time, but hard to say it could repeat the flights since small atmosphere variations could have a big impact at the performance.
The Flyer had a complete different design, less efficient, with the wings generating much more drag compared with the
Condor. Anyway, there is no flight of a Flyer copy with the same power and original design that could repeat the claim made
about the 1903 flight.
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Everyone who visits this channel and views this video should click on this link to the International Federation of Aeronautics which declared the Wright Brothers flew on 1903: www.fai.org/news/fai-celebrates-120th-anniversary-wright-brothers-first-biplane-kite-taking-flight
"Keen cyclists, the Wright brothers opened their own bicycle sales and repairs shop before using what they had learned building bikes to take on the world of flight. They went on to achieve the first ever flights in a powered plane in 1903, and were also the inventors of the first passenger-carrying plane."
The wrights used a catapult between 1904 until 1910 The ability to run and take off they developed in 1910 !!
All flights prior to September 7th 1904 were done without a catapult.
Doesn't matter, they were the first to fly. The competition were also using catapults and their "planes" flopped.
I say that when it comes to flying, Wilbur and Orville really are the Wright dynamic duo! LOL *rimshot*
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In 1904 the air club of France invited the wrights to present their machine, prove their capacity and make a record. The Wrights never submitted anything and also did not amswered the letter.
Why
Troll.
It was a bizarre and arrogant letter because the French should have come to America.
Lol it's funny reading some of these haters comments on here.
The wannabes are trying to change history in many places.
They’re not really haters, just biased dummies.
No volume.
No shit.
This movie!! 1908
So?
Feathers, iron, weights and pulleys...
This is the slowed down version: ruclips.net/video/xparRfhnNGc/видео.html
Oh god, the Dumont trolls are everywhere.
Great
By 1909 the Wright configuration looks a little outdated. That year Bleriot flew the channel. He used a a tractor monoplane which was the layout which led into future designs. Biplane canards were not the way aviation developed. Weight assisted takeoff? This was no longer necessary for Bleriot. His plane had wheels! The Wrights wing warping was soon replaced with hinged ailerons, which persist to this day.
Your technical observations are excellent, and I’ll respond to a particular point you’ve made.
_”Weight assisted takeoff? This was no longer necessary for Bleriot. His plane had wheels!”_
The weight-assisted takeoff method used by the Wrights was only a _conditional_ necessity, not an absolute one. It allowed takeoff from surfaces unsuitable for a wheeled undercarriage, such as the dunes of Kill Devil Hills and the rutted Huffman Prairie, and without the need for excessive lengths of rail. It also mitigated the effect of a diminished headwind. So far as I know, Bleriot and other contemporaries did not face some of the physical impediments that the Wrights did. I think it’s fair to assume that had the Flyers attempted takeoff from a smooth and hard surface of sufficient length, they would have succeeded. (Wilbur actually did this in Europe, for demonstration purposes.)
Eventually, the Wrights came to view assisted takeoff as a superior method, even when better physical conditions were present. For one thing, it allowed a short takeoff (~60 feet) in any direction, on short notice. Early on, the Wrights seemed to predict that future aviation wouldn’t depend on long, graded runways and lots of real estate. It wasn’t a terrible prediction, but it was obviously mistaken.
At the same time in 1909 Louis Bleriot flew across the English channel in a much more advanced airplane. The Wright Bros in protecting their patents with numerous lawsuits, greatly restricted advancement in aircraft design in the USA. US aircraft design was so limited, that in WW1 US pilots had to fly French and British designs.
Yeah, but they flew first and the first to have decent roll control.
@Joe Duke Chanute was the engineer for the brothers who were dropped outs from high school. Bleriot design basics is here to this date, all replicas from Europe flew except the Flyer a Paraphernalia Plane that could not fly its replica after 100 years, all others did.
@@bullhead900 Did not fly first but went down in a sand dune as a glider in 1903, no official witnesses just talk.
@Joe Duke Chanute was the engineer for the brothers who were dropped outs from high school. Bleriot design basics is here to this date, all replicas from Europe flew except the Flyer a Paraphernalia Plane that could not fly its replica after 100 years, all others did.
Having done extensive research, it was the Wrights who pioneered controlled flight.
1909!!! The Wright brothers were headwinds and catapult's dependent!!!
So!!! Others are wheels dependent. You just want your guy to be first. LOL
No, only with a passenger. Stop being stupid.
Until engine technology in power to weight ratios improved all heavier than air flying machines needed the advantages of headwinds and/or catapults. Notice that aircraft carriers still use these techniques?
French experts who recorded Wright's real first flight in 1908 said that the machine would never fly 35 km in 1905. In 1908 on the first wright's fly the machine flew 337 meters only. Fact
The Wright's first flight was in 1903.
They should clean up the film. Easy to do with a computer.
Are they still alive??
The french expert's opinion about Wright brothers First flight, 1908.
"They still glided down the slope. How can I believe that the two brothers were able to fly about 40 minutes in 1905 in Dayton, Ohio over a flat pasture if they still needed a hill and strong winds to fly in May 1908."
You keep bringing up this “French expert,” but you never actually give their name. It’s also interesting that you talk about a slope. The Wrights’ demonstrations in France were at a horse racing track. Horse tracks are flat.
It's on film!
Why are they walking like chaplin😂
Uhuuu
1902
Santos Dumont Monument in Paris.
"SANTOS DUMONT PIONEER OF AERIAL DIRIGIBILITY.
Uhuuu Santos Dumont the Man.
But too bad he didn't build a heavier than air machine that could actually fly before 1903.
Don’t forget Hiram Maxim flew his plane with a 3 man crew in 1896. But that was in Britain so it obviously doesn’t count!
Controlled flight is final word here. Previous attempts acheived flight but they were not controlled about all axis and could not be sustained. That was the genius of the Wright's airplane, they acheived control about all axis, low enough weight and high enough power for sustained, controlled flight.
Maxim deserves a lot of credit. He was a genius inventor. But his aircraft only lifted off the ground for brief periods and was tethered to the ground because it could not be controlled. It was used as an amusement park ride. He could not make sustained, controlled, powered flight.
That plane didn't fly. It did not have any controls and was tethered to a rail to prevent lift-off which would have been disastrous without control surfaces. If Maxim had pursued it, maybe he could have come up with a workable model.
Look in Paris 1906
Dumont Monument.
"FIRST AVIATION RECORD OF THE WORLD."
France aeroclub.
The monument in Kitty Hawk NC says the Wrights flew in 1903. Santos Dumont didn't fly until 1909 when he built the Desmoiselle 20. Watch the original film of Santos Dumont in 1906. It shows nothing but a short little hop, not a sustained flight. There are many copies of this film on RUclips. Watch it and see for yourself. Film doesn't lie.
@@fredlarsen8292 Guy, The American monument was built after Orville's death in the 1940's. 'The Dumont monument has been recognized by France's aeroclub since 1906 and is an official FAI registration. The other monument has been recognized for Dumont since 1902 !!!! Present here A monument that the authorities built for the Wrights between 1903-1905 that says that they presented the first Record
@@fredlarsen8292 Don't exist 220 meters jump!! Dumont performed the flight with: run, takeoff, land under its own Power and landing.The record of archdeacom and the French air club in monument says that Dumont made the "FIRST AVIATION RECORD OF THE WORLD." the end, Guy, Dumont won in 1906.
@@fredlarsen8292Dumont's filming and photos have always been present in films, magazines, newspapers. The wright's pictures and footages appeared only 1908 !!!
@@fredlarsen8292 The 1901 record for Dumont shows that Dumont started to win. "PIONEER OF AERIAL DIRIGIBILITY" in this period, the Wrights almost killed themselves with uncontrollable gliders.
Newspapers around the world reported on Dumont's event, including American newspapers.
The wright's declared their ability to run and take off in 1910 only.
Well, the 1903 flight disproves that little theory.
...just another 'Unboxing' video...
Thumbs down video was shaky