When should a martial artist engage in a street fight?
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- Опубликовано: 2 июн 2024
- Q&A with the coach. Shanghai based MMA coach and Kunlun Fight Combat League ringside commentator Ramsey Dewey answers questions from the viewers.
What exactly is a street fight, and how is that different from an aggravated assault? What is and isn’t self defense?
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As an ex-boxer, my trainer told me you learn how to fight so you don't have to. Many thanks, Ramsey. You're a modern day hero.
It was all fun and games until someone screamed *HADOKEN* and fired a blast of energy from their hands
A martial artist should always be involved in street fights. Sometimes you can stumble into protecting the world from M. Bison and Shadoloo.
"You are not a street fighter, you're just a fucking criminal" - Icy Mike.
Or you might run into a Mob boss like Geese Howard, and an arrogant and powerful German Kaiser Nobleman like Wolfgang Krauser, or an Illuminati Emperor who wants to you join him like Gill, Urien or Seth. What a crazy world we live in, such the life of a Martial Artist.
@@ramonantoniobennett-ryuuke6301 And lets not forget the billion dollar company that host the King of Iron Fist Tournament MMA fights. I hear they even had a bear and a kangaroo go at it. But hey, Martial Artists gotta earn the dough. I heard that Dead or Alive company just has beach girls model for them now though? How the mighty have fallen.
Sometimes you just have to protect Metro City from the Mad Gears.
@@StormHowl oh how could i forget bout ol' Heihachi , Kazuya & G-Corp, Jin and the Mishima Zaibatsu!
When should a martial artist engage in a street fight?
10 pm Thursday evening
Eternalnight id argue a friday night or saturday night is better. especially in the 9pm-12am range
@@Jorge-tl7sf Psssh, ain't nobody got time for that. I wanna see you at three; right after school.
I'll fight a child! D
Don’t talk about fight club!!!
Ill be there
10pm Thursday Street Fighter Multiplayer boiz
I did one of those 10 pages long essay before when I was unsure if I should get into martial arts that never got replied. Turns out ramsey gave me the answer in every video, "get out there, and train".
The only "street fight" I was ever involved in was a mugging, and I defended myself by hitting one of the 2 guys trying to mug me and ran as fast as I could. I got away because I ran into the light shouting for help while doing so. I did not know if the guys were armed or not, and was in no hurry to find out. There are a whole lot of dead heroes that stood their ground and got stabbed or shot for it.
Good choice. I've been shot because three guys tried to rob me. I thought they only had one gun, which I semi-successfully got control of. But I was wrong they had another which was used to shoot me in my hip. I got away and somehow one of them was shot in the process. I was young and thought that was a win. Now I'm 30 and think that was very reckless
@@stephen8996 Yeah even thugs use to have a small bit of honor. Today they will kill you over a nickel. Not too long back a local paperman was killed over a bag of change he was collecting from a paper rack on his route
@@stephen8996 you did the right thing when young. You're wrong to think you're reckless back then. You fight whenever you're attacked, make it a norm. You should analyze how to dodge zigzag using 1 of their own as human shield and how to disarm better, best to get hold of assailant's weapon to use against them
Unfortunately here in Denmark oftentimes defending yourself against an attacker will often be viewed as participating in a street fight (similar to a misdemeanor - carries a fine). And you also risk charges and jail time if the other guy gets hurt because the court finds that you use more force than necessary.
@@jayjay53313 those are a lot of words to say you lack self control
I did Eskrima for 4 years in college.
The most important lesson I learned in that street-fighting based, sparring heavy, weapon-based martial art was when they gave me a knife, first day of class.
The teacher (an upperclassman) told me to act out the part of a robber as a demonstration for the class of how a well-traveled practitioner would handle the situation. I was giggling a bit, I think, as I looked at the other freshmen and shrugged before saying "Uh, give me your money?".
This man who would put me through 4 years of knife sparring, beat my hands in until they were numb in sparring, and could probably beat 5 of us at once on a good day, calmly reached into his back pocket and handed me his wallet. The upperclassmen all told us to never ever ever ever get into a street fight, to never ever feel comfortable in a knife fight, to never think our training will protect us from the hundreds of things that could go wrong and turn us into an obituary.
If a guy asks for your wallet you give it to him, you defend your life, not your money, you don't defend anything but your life.
this should be pinned
That´s a real master
@@demoniac972 Ahaaa he'd be flattered I guess, but all of those guys were knife fighters, all of those guys carried an EDC (every day utility/self defense knife) all of those guys said "never get in a knife fight, because the best case scenario is you in the hospital with a death/maiming on your hands." They had a lot of little sayings that basically tell you to not actually fight or hurt.
It's a comforting thought, even now I tend to always think very good martial artists I meet are extremely peaceful individuals at the end of the day.
I was naive when I began boxing for self defense.
I later learned that the people who harmed me before were taking advantage of my inexperience and they were actually pathetic to do so.
Essentially I lost my anger after time because I realized that they wanted to feel in power over someone weak.
And that's just embarrassing.
Growing up completely took away my Outlook on that situation long ago.
Im not giving my wallet, i dont care. Has worked ok so far.
What an intelligent response Ramsey.
Keep teaching honor and being a gentleman. Much love brother!
A fan from Sierra Leone.
Ramsey Dewey, the best life coach ever.
This dude changed my perspective on a lot of things. Everything he says seems so genuine. It's a rare thing from people this day and age.
Agree
As James Yeager is fond of saying: “Don’t do stupid things in stupid places with stupid people.”
"You're walking into the wrong kinds of room." TRUTH!!
As a recovering alcoholic, Who has been sober since 1986 I can testify I haven’t been in a fight since! I still occasionally go to a club but I leave when they start getting drunk!
Fucking addict
Sober since 1986??? You've been through the fall of comunism and 40 wars. How are you supposed to be a "recovering addict"??
@@PaschanTOPs lol exactly
Paschan TOPs one day at a time
Paschan TOPs If you‘re an alcoholic, you stay an alcoholic for the rest of your life. You can keep destroying yourself or you can quit completely, but you can never return to a place where you can just have a beer and stop
I can already answer this one. As someone who has regrettably had his fair share of street fights.
I would be lying to say I regret every single fight, but I regret the majority of them.
My right hand is all chewed up now too and doesn't have full range of motion in some fingers. As someone who has played guitar for 15 years it's something I regret massively.
The last 5 years it's just been too much of a pain to play because of stupid street fights.
Obviously there are times when it's unavoidable too. They're just rarer.
Can you share some of your unavoidable fights for the younger folks out there? Any tips how to avoid street fights?
Like the original karate kid film : originally portrayed fighting always the last answer to the problem
Rule number 1 : martial arts style techniques is for defence only
Rule number 2 : follow numbers 2 - first learn and follow the first rule number 1
@@deivytrajan I mean it depends on a lot of things. One scenario I was being blocked by a group of people, about 10 behind and 2 in front. I was sandwiched. I had to go one way or the other so I chose the easiest way. I didn't want to but I was genuinely terrified it was only when the guy grabbed ahold of me did I do anything. They never even said what they wanted. It happened in the same village I live in and while I was going shopping for my grandad.
In my younger days I would react to taunting and teasing and sometimes that escalated into fights... which are the stupid avoidable ones.
I jab someone in a street fight and yea my thumb is hurts as hell.
@@iliveinsideyourhouse3943 If you jab someone and your thumb hurts, you probably need to work on where you put your thumb while clenching a fist, because where you put it was not the right place.
Hi Ramsey, while I understand your comment about being able to go into a room without sizing everyone up, that doesn’t work for some people. Now retired after 30 yrs of law experience, sizing everyone in the room up is the second thing I always do, after checking out where all the entrances and exits are. Then I choose a seat where I can sit and make sure no one can get behind me without me seeing them. This ingrained habit hurts no one, although it does annoy my wife sometimes. No one else really notices.
I am very proud of the fact I have never had a streetlight, obviously I have had to use force many times as a police officer. The only fights I have had have all been in the ring or on the mats (Kyokushin and kickboxing for many years). Thanks for the videos mate, excellent work. Osu!
Ive never had a collection of streetlights either
What if I'm walking down a ally and Hulk Hogan shows up with his belt and screams
"HULKAMANIA IS RUNNING WILD BROTHER! YOU WONT EVER GET MY CHAMPIONSHIP BELT! WOOOOOOOO!!!"
Then you HAVE to respond the only way you can: with the atomic elbow drop, of course.
@Yoel Romero get into some wrestling classes if you aren't already. Don't stay in clinches for too long, develop a lightning fast shot and go for single legs or their back so that they can't use their upper body on you.
I'd have to kick his wheelchair out from under that old man :P
Yoel Romero learn how to manipulate weight, and spotting the center of gravity, as far as i know, being able to control someone’s center of gravity gives you the best chance of actually landing a takedown or disturbing their balance, especially when its a big and heavy guy, if i’m not wrong you’ll learn it in wrestling or judo eventually just stay focused on training
Tyler Jones single legs are great when it comes to unbalancing bigger guys
Thank you for your insights, Mr. Mormon Punchy Man.
He is very kicky and jui jistuish too i think
@@clerictamer he is indeed.
Isn't he a class S hero? :-)
Hes a mormon?
I never assume that I could kick anyone's ass unless I have the fighting spirit in me, vodka.
Sounds more like the wine and spirits, than the fighting spirit lol
Why is he even asking you about tha streetz instead of Master Wong?
The deep, relaxing voice of Ramsey
Judging by his calm, soothing voice and wise demeanor, and immense fighting aura, i think Master Ramsey can actually taught his way out of a fight, defuse the situation entirely!
Youre so cool Ramsey
Great role model and leader
Good to hear you talk about staying away from alcohol. I'm always the sober friend in college, and it's rough sometimes, but I'm glad the people that I look up to would be proud of me.
Train hard. Use your best judgement. Try to follow the law. And understand that in a fight you have the life of someone else in your hands, and that is a huge responsibility. Arguably the greatest responsibility you will ever have.
I hate to say this. But if any man on the street puts their hands on me I'm breaking their goddamn jaw.
If someone tries to violently assault me I'm going to make sure they never wake up again
fine ramsey
i wont get into street fights
ill get into aggravated assaults
then ill use my women's self defense chi hadouken training
The moment you concluded “that’s a street fight” around the second minute. Man, you did them dirty right!
Loved your approach and thought-line as always! Love your content and how you present it my man! All the best to you and yours!
Cheers
NEVER!!! Streets are about SURVIVAL! It is never a goal. Ramsey you are the best! Speak that truth
I agree with you Ramsey 95% you don't have to fight
PS if a bully comes just say "I'm not impressed by your performance"
Karlo Kamenjašević lmao gsp
Great one! Thanks for the inspiration! God bless!
Great, great upload, thank you!
But if I don't get into drunken street fights how do I become a Drunken Master like Jackie Chan or BJ Penn?
Drunken boxing works. Its the only way to fight off multiple opponents or armed attacked. You dont have to sway like Jackie Chan did, the trick is to seem unprepared.
Maybe have your arms down, do an exaggerated flinch. Look scared. This makes your attacker feel safe in going for a big looping right hand, or a very obvious stabbing motion. These are easy to block/counter.
The problem with defending a knife attack or any attack while in fighting stance means that your attacker will also get into fighting stance instead of going for a big looping attack they'll go for a more technical attack and that is impossible to defend against. Especially a knife attack. This is something ive practised extensively and let me tell you its fucking impossible to block/disarm a knife attack if your opponent does a fake-attack to get you to try defend it.
@@desnebula5699 Ohh
@@desnebula5699 let me just say, a knife is superior then any level of unarmed combat, any weapon is
If you do train and you do drink, once you decides to get into a street fight, you will become the current BJ Penn, I hope that answers your question.
Nice..
Thank you Ramsey, I needed this today. I try and keep a clear calm mind but life does have this habit of occasionally sneaking up on me when I'm not expecting it.
I was angry about a situation in the past. It's been brewing for a week or so, I thought I was on top of it but I wasn't. You helped to remind me of where I need to be and what's what.
Thank you, some things here I needed to hear
Enjoyed your video, thank you Ramsey great content
Well said. Great integrity!
THIS is why i subbed you for Ramsey! 10/10
Great advices. Simple and most logical. Thanks
Good stuff, Ramsey. Liked and shared.
Great lesson Coach
Great answer to this guys question sir. Keep up the good work!
"When should you assault people?" XD
That “size people up in the room” mentality hit home for me. I honestly felt that way for a long time, I thought it meant confidence. Thinking I can beat most people (I’m 6’4” 255 lbs). I started doing boxing for 15 months now and for a long time, I haven’t felt that way walking into a room anymore. I feel comfortable with myself. Training in boxing and getting ready for my first amateur bout gave me real confidence. Honing my craft in boxing really shined a light on my insecurities and since I gained REAL confidence, I don’t size people up anymore. Thanks for the motivation. Stay hungry.
A fight you avoid is a fight you win
I enjoyed this Q&A very much. As a long time karate practitioner I like your way of defining the difference between self defense in a agrivated assault compared to a street fight or basically two guys with something to prove going at it. Most street fights do happen between younger people with too much ego and something to prove to themselves or people who have been drinking too much. there are absolutely a lot of shady and questionable places that anyone can avoid if they choose and this applies to places like clubs (keep in mind, not all clubs fall into that catagory, and some can even provide a very enjoyable social atmosphere).
keep up the good info and mindset that you provide for people all over the place. I think you provide your viewers a good perspective on a lot of different subjects and I think this applies to both trained fighters as well as younger viewers trying to figure things out for themselves.
This guy gets it. Every video I've seen from this guy has been spot on (in my opinion of course)
Ramsey, your response is so good that it should be teached in schools (of course a lot won't listen but it should save some bad days from happening for a few people in the future)
Watching this video made me think about my own younger days and why I got into boxing. It also made me thing about how now at this stage in my life I seem to have a much calmer attitude in situations where I probably wouldn't have been so calm if I were much younger.
amazing Mr Ramsey
Good stuff Brutha!
Damn
I often think the same way about the topic at hand, but I have never been able to express it nearly as eloquently and effectively as you 🙏
Great video
great stuff 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Short answer: Never unless you are certain that someone has full intention to strike, grapple with, stab or shoot you and there is no way to talk them out of it and there are no simple means of escape otherwise.
Mister Walrus best answer.
Good advice keep it real...
When you say "you're in a bad environment" at 7:03 I hear some Irish accent.
I had a "street fight" 10days ago, I was walking with my friend harry then Harry's friend approaches and started talking to harry I was walking in front and Harry's friend about 30 seconds after he first approach us hit me randomly for absolutely no reason form behind so I hit him 6 times then he walked off
48 years on this earth and I wish I could have heard this advice 30 years ago. It would have saved me a chipped tooth, 2 broken bones in my hands, 3 fractured ribs, and money more properly invested in my looming retirement.
What is the best way to win a potential confrontation? The ability to influence your opponents with your intellect via compelling and convincing arguments will reap more rewards than simply throwing a punch. IE, whenever possible talk your way out.
Rhetoric and logic will take you much further in life than your willingness to fight. Now if you are being assaulted and you are within arms reach...I highly recommend gouging the assailants eyes with extreme prejudice. And then promptly extracting yourself from the area.
Best advice I could ever give is this...if you feel that you need to fight, or need any sort of weapon, before you go someplace perhaps you shouldn't go in the first place.
Minimize your risks, stay safe, and remain vigilant.
Excellent
QUESTION- hey Ramsey, what's Ur opinion on backyard MMA /streetfighting type things where the fight is set up? I was offered a planned fight and was offered money if I won. For me it feels like just an mma match but others think it's sketchy as fuck.
did you do it?
Hey coach! Nice vids. Hope corona is treating you well
There's a cookout near where I live and I love their milkshakes, and some of their food is decent. I often go there with friends and we hangout as it's a hangout joint near a college (it's a fast food place and they do not sell alcohol), but everytime I go there I always have an uncomfortable feeling and one time there was a group of people who did tease me. So, maybe I need to stay away from it.
Dankest Memicus -reclaim your favorite place, grab your favorite seat and enjoy a milkshake. That may have been the only time you’ll see that group. If not, talk with the manager. Be the energy you want to attract.
@@alanderson9711 I drink your milkshake.
@@alanderson9711 and bring like 50 friends with you :)
I asked you the same bloody ?awhile ago .but thx for this 411
I'm sizing up Ramsey now.
I could of used you in my life 20 years ago. I was in all the wrong places with all the wrong people. However I've been sober for 18 years now and training in a variety of martial arts (I'm counting boxing as a martial art) for 15 years. Over this time I've gained a lot of respect for myself and people in general. Now fighting is never on my mind, those feelings and thoughts will never take space in my mind again. Thank you Mr. Dewey.
Thank you! Subscribed to your Channel!
God Bless!
Aloha from Texas,
Reverend Dr. Liam Sullivan Stone, D.D., Ph.D., N.D.
I feel like what he meant by 'provocation' was a scenario in which someone is touching someone you're with or other unacceptable things, because details can get hairy when you're with someone else, even in a 'safe' public place with strangers
This advice is best suited..."Fo Da Streetz!!!"
Any escalation of an informal interaction is my definition. The only goal of a street fight is to defuse the situation. Thus i defuse the escalation with moving away, apologizing, assurance, etc. As a bouncer i never threw a punch.
No is an excellent answer to this question
If anything for advice on a street fight what you do is go to a lawyer, I know it sounds ridiculous but a martial artist can advise you on what you can do in a fight where you're defending yourself but a lawyer will be able to tell you what you should do in order to stay out of trouble and how a court will interpret your actions. Like Ramsey says, big difference between a street fight and assault too, again, lawyers will actually know best about this lol.
Edit: That's what I get for commenting on a video without watching it 100% through, Ramsey goes into this exact thing and it's great, check the law in your jurisdiction, always.
"NEVER" --> 🙏🏽 That is it. Period. Thank you!
I was always taught do tell anyone your in martial arts becuase then everyone would want to challenge you. So far it has rang true. Now with that said I completely agree with Ramsey 100%
I love your Videos.
point you make at 6:10 is a great piece of advice. I would like to be in such a place, but 13 years working as a bouncer means I can't not, difference is that as a young guy, it was ego... these days it is just ingrained habit I wish I didn't have.
Great advise. Be aware... Best defense, not be there. Use the best weapon you have... Your mind.
Really sorry to hear about your bad experience with bars. In Europe it's common to go to bars and clubs and while there might be venues where aggression happens, the vast majority of those I've been to are filled with docile people who just wanna have fun and clown around. I can count the number of incidents that I've witnessed on one hand and I haven't seen anyone with a weapon in any place of the places I've been at, though I'm so avert to violence I might be instinctively avoiding anything that looks like trouble.
Wise words!
AS my Sensei told me, as a martial artist, if you enter a "fight" you at that moment failed as a martial artist.
Excellent explanation , it's all about company you choose and the environment you hang out.However, the times has changed, stabbing or shooting someone on the streets is business as usual today.So the best thing is to avoid unnecessary street conflicts, OSSU!!
I definitely agree with you Ramsey, and I think I saw a similar video that you did with Jessie Enkamp. I grew out my fighting phase early, after earning a first degree black belt in Taekwondo. Partially because I know how easy it is to hurt someone else, and for things to go wrong and get hurt myself. It might be part of personality as well, but I became good at deescalating situations. Still, I was around a lot of people that still got into street fights, and carried guns. I eventually distanced myself from them, and my life is a lot more peaceful now.
thank you for this video my friend sometimes a bit of preaching goes a long way 💪
The night club scene is dark. Drug dealers, gangsters, preditory hustlers, burly doormen, everyone trying to get a cut. The environment is designed to make u want to be drunk, the serve u as much booze as possible, shots, stuff to get people as smashed as possible. Once the club has all their money and the moment one over does it the bouncer throws them in the street where the cab drivers, cops, and all manner of low life street dwellers gets a free shot while someones motor functions, sensory perception, judgement and brain capacity are compromised.
Well said
Dewey lowkey spitting facts about alcohol
Where I'm from they will just run up and hit you for no reason without saying anything then all their scummy mates will surround you like a pack of hyenas. They think it's funny surrounding somebody they knocked down and kicking them in the head repeatedly. No reason, no warning, you have to be ready at all times to smash their heads in and don't hesitate for a second if you don't want to have a headache or worse for two weeks.
sounds like you live in a place with many blacks or muslims...
When I was in secondary school (high school) I never liked people finding out I do self defense, because their ego would get the best of them and they'd try to test you.
Story of my life mate haha, even some of the teachers used to mock me for doing muay thai.
I have the same problem just from being muscular.
Absolutely right.
The voice of Richard Burton, the wisdom of Bruce Lee ;)
Great video!
These are the exact words my coach says to me
And he is very right
You should not be in that position in the first place
Wise words!!
I agree on all points.
I see it as a duty, as a trained combatant to assist those that need it.
I wanted to write my whole life story and ten page street fight résumé here but I can't be bothered so I'll write this.
Much appreciated!
+100 for the advice regarding alcohol. alcohol takes the Zen out of people...
I agree with everything you said
5:40 is the realist shit ever.
At least when talking about being in public, most of us can't help it. We're not even looking for fights, necessarily, it just kind of comes to us as though it were a legitimate worry, despite the fact that it isn't.
I'm glad that I can hear someone else talk about this in a more serious, down to earth manner.
How about an update on the pandemic environment from your perspective? Maybe something about dealing with fear, or people who are afraid?
My boxing coach said he was never afraid of fighting he was afraid of what people would think if he lost or looked bad in some manner.
I've been in street fights. With the protoss.
I was watching a Muay Thai documentary. The main competitor wanted to go 'out' with some friends and there was this one girl that he liked. The coach said, "The night is for delinquents." AKA Focus on training, and stop going to clubs.
The best self defense is the ability to avoid a fight.
Geeze my life would have been so much better if I’d heard this as a teenager 😅❤️
Self defence is the same as when Ramsey's corner man said "there is the rules and then there is the rules " you can defend yourself without it being seen as justified self defence
Lots of good advice in this clip, Mr Ramsey. It's ego and alcohol that causes almost all street fights. For me, I got over the ego problem by learning kickboxing and GJJ. These days, I feel no need to prove I'm tougher than the next guy, and if anyone starts a hassle with me I let them think they are tougher - i just back down. Better that, than having to break the poor guy's arm or choke him out in front of his girlfriend. I'm not the guy's school teacher so it's not my job to "teach him a lesson".