Good stuff, real world, no gimmicks! These are my favorite kind if videos! No BS! Lmao 🤣🤣 I just broadcast a kill plot ahead of this rain in Kentucky, be my first yr growing and i hope it's a success! I have watched every video made on brassica plots and i think im on the right track, just hope mother nature cooperates! I will be disappointed if it doesn't work cuz it's very expensive and very hard work when you have very limited tools to work with, but if the brassica don't do well i have plenty of winter wheat to plant in a month to save the day!
I've been doing this a while. No till is about walking b4 u can run. 3 straight years of very dry summers. I've had very nice results with Buckwheat. I broadcast early August & then terminate the 3 foot tall Buckwheat. U really need to crimp it & the crimper works much better on Buckwheat than the rye. I do kill plots so I terminate my Buckwheat with a 56V Echo weed wipper. It cuts the Buckwheat easily on the low speed mode. I would never be able to do that to rye. I've seen videos where they plant Buckwheat yearly. They take a trenching tool & the soil looks like 6" deep of coffee grounds. I seed with Domain Big Sexy & I added some Show Stopper to add more diversity. We were as dry as u but over the last month I have been pounded with hail & over 6" of rain. The Domain Comeback Kid that I just broadcasted late May in pasture type land with grass & clover is really taking off now over the last couple of weeks. Important to broadcast that seed when the grass is sparse. If I did it now there wouldn't be any seed to soil contact. I'm looking forward more than the last 4 years to a good setup getting better. I also ❤ seeing all the bees & butterflies in the Buckwheat which grows in my sandy soil. U don't have that with a very artificial style system.
You hit the nail on the head no 2 properties are the same for example us in the south deer just dont eat brassicas as much they will sometimes eat the green tops. So my go to fall mix now is wheat, oats, rye and radishes they seem to prefer the radish over the turnips in my spot. then I mix in some clover and chicory so as soon as spring greenup happens the clover and chicory jumps out ahead of the springtime weeds. Also the rye helps suppress a lot of weeds in our plots. Thanks for sharing this land management stuff is such a process.
Do you plant all at the same time? Curious if you have this nitrogen issues some are talking about and saying see separation is needed. I personally like the seed blends but again results seem to vary.
@@timbertimeoutdoors9836 yep plant all at the same time. Biologic has a blend they sell through tractor supply called deer plot it has the wheat, oats and radishes in it love it because it’s cheap and readily available locally. Then we add in the clover and rye. Always mix and plant together no problems for us on our ground
I planted for the first time ever a food plot and it has given me amazing results. The lord blessed my hands to create something and with the lord as my guide I have an amazing food plot . I used the company called domain and mixed big sexy and hot cic. May the lord grant you success and patience.
Good video! We have been on a similar path with doing no till and how have a drill and crimper. I have broadcast the winter rye into standing brassicas in September and it worked great for coming up in the spring. We have clay soil in WV so we are an opposite soil type but there was no way to pull the drill through the brassicas without killing them. Good luck and keep up the good video discussions.
We actually tried drilling the Oat and Rye into brassica this year in September. We did a video on that. Our Brassica came up great then kind of stopped growing. No rain and no fertilizer is likely why. Anyway, if the brassica is small enough, you can drill into it and it won't kill it. We were very surprised. We did this because we just can't get rye to grow broadcasting and didn't care if Brassica died since it was small.
As you mentioned, no 2 properties are the same. In West Michigan & my property, I have found Buckwheat far superior to Winter Rye on weed suppressant...my main weed is Bracken ferns. I AGREE 100%, videos can be misleading, but the #1 thing is soil sample & correct the PH, CEC & Organic matter. I have 8 food plots on 40 acres and currently testing different seed in the same plot. Only in year #3, but already good results. Keep up the videos!
Yes, soil samples are key. We don't always do them. Pain in the butt. However, we do when applying fertilizer. We are trying to do without this year due to cost. Brassica came in nice but we hit a dry spell and its seems to have stunted. Not sure if that is from dry weather, no fertilize or both. We are going to drill in Oat and Rye in a week or so.
How does your tractor handle the drill? I have a John Deere 4 series tractor that has similar capabilities as your machine. The specs on the Deere say it can lift almost 200lb more than the MX5800. I'd love to purchase a drill like yours if it can handle it. Any honest thoughts?
Very interesting. We too have tried no till, buckwheat, rye etc. with VERY MIXED results. We have a not till drill, but no crimper. We have had problems with the buckwheat getting to tall to plant into, and the difficulties terminating the WR in the spring. This year because of RU resistant weeds, we had to terminate some of our plots with Brash. We when tilled the soil up and drilled in a fall green mix, and another small plot of a brassica mix. We intend to plant some WR in Sept., but not too much as it tends to take over in the spring as I stated and is very difficult of us to terminate. Bob SW WI
Great info. Like I mention in the video, results will be different at each property. Just too many variables to expect best practices to work everywhere. Frustrating but trial and error seems to be the only way to crack the code for your land.
Did you ever lower the drive wheel to the second or third lowest hole. I know you were running the drill wrong in the video from 2 years ago. If not you will have bad results with some seed. I have over 900 acres planted with my 3p606nt.
We did make some changes to some setting on the cutters. Works much better now. Drill is working well. Soil is our issue. So sandy. Getting better but very slow process.
Good stuff, real world, no gimmicks! These are my favorite kind if videos! No BS! Lmao 🤣🤣
I just broadcast a kill plot ahead of this rain in Kentucky, be my first yr growing and i hope it's a success! I have watched every video made on brassica plots and i think im on the right track, just hope mother nature cooperates! I will be disappointed if it doesn't work cuz it's very expensive and very hard work when you have very limited tools to work with, but if the brassica don't do well i have plenty of winter wheat to plant in a month to save the day!
I've been doing this a while. No till is about walking b4 u can run. 3 straight years of very dry summers. I've had very nice results with Buckwheat. I broadcast early August & then terminate the 3 foot tall Buckwheat. U really need to crimp it & the crimper works much better on Buckwheat than the rye. I do kill plots so I terminate my Buckwheat with a 56V Echo weed wipper. It cuts the Buckwheat easily on the low speed mode. I would never be able to do that to rye. I've seen videos where they plant Buckwheat yearly. They take a trenching tool & the soil looks like 6" deep of coffee grounds. I seed with Domain Big Sexy & I added some Show Stopper to add more diversity. We were as dry as u but over the last month I have been pounded with hail & over 6" of rain. The Domain Comeback Kid that I just broadcasted late May in pasture type land with grass & clover is really taking off now over the last couple of weeks. Important to broadcast that seed when the grass is sparse. If I did it now there wouldn't be any seed to soil contact. I'm looking forward more than the last 4 years to a good setup getting better.
I also ❤ seeing all the bees & butterflies in the Buckwheat which grows in my sandy soil. U don't have that with a very artificial style system.
Good luck, really sandy stuff here in South Carolina also where I am
This sand is a real challenge.
Have you ever tried Nortwoods Whitetail Seeds? John Comp.
Great video, great advice, Dave!!! Hope you guys have a great season!
Thanks! You too!
You hit the nail on the head no 2 properties are the same for example us in the south deer just dont eat brassicas as much they will sometimes eat the green tops. So my go to fall mix now is wheat, oats, rye and radishes they seem to prefer the radish over the turnips in my spot. then I mix in some clover and chicory so as soon as spring greenup happens the clover and chicory jumps out ahead of the springtime weeds. Also the rye helps suppress a lot of weeds in our plots. Thanks for sharing this land management stuff is such a process.
Do you plant all at the same time? Curious if you have this nitrogen issues some are talking about and saying see separation is needed. I personally like the seed blends but again results seem to vary.
@@timbertimeoutdoors9836 yep plant all at the same time. Biologic has a blend they sell through tractor supply called deer plot it has the wheat, oats and radishes in it love it because it’s cheap and readily available locally. Then we add in the clover and rye. Always mix and plant together no problems for us on our ground
I planted for the first time ever a food plot and it has given me amazing results. The lord blessed my hands to create something and with the lord as my guide I have an amazing food plot . I used the company called domain and mixed big sexy and hot cic. May the lord grant you success and patience.
Glad your getting good results. Food Plots can be hard if your soil is bad like ours. Very challenging.
Good video! Keep us updated
Are you inoculating your oats and rye, I have been having a hard time getting my fall plots to germinate,
We did not add any Inoculating to the Oat or Rye. Have never needed it for our land
Plant RR sugarbeets in your best soil as early in the Spring as possible, you won't believe the hunting you're blessed with 😉
Beets won’t last to be 4 inches tall here in southern illinois
Trying wheat instead of rye this year...we shall see how that works here in NC. Good luck this season.
Lets us all know how that goes.
Good video! We have been on a similar path with doing no till and how have a drill and crimper. I have broadcast the winter rye into standing brassicas in September and it worked great for coming up in the spring. We have clay soil in WV so we are an opposite soil type but there was no way to pull the drill through the brassicas without killing them. Good luck and keep up the good video discussions.
We actually tried drilling the Oat and Rye into brassica this year in September. We did a video on that. Our Brassica came up great then kind of stopped growing. No rain and no fertilizer is likely why. Anyway, if the brassica is small enough, you can drill into it and it won't kill it. We were very surprised. We did this because we just can't get rye to grow broadcasting and didn't care if Brassica died since it was small.
As you mentioned, no 2 properties are the same. In West Michigan & my property, I have found Buckwheat far superior to Winter Rye on weed suppressant...my main weed is Bracken ferns. I AGREE 100%, videos can be misleading, but the #1 thing is soil sample & correct the PH, CEC & Organic matter. I have 8 food plots on 40 acres and currently testing different seed in the same plot. Only in year #3, but already good results. Keep up the videos!
Yes, soil samples are key. We don't always do them. Pain in the butt. However, we do when applying fertilizer. We are trying to do without this year due to cost. Brassica came in nice but we hit a dry spell and its seems to have stunted. Not sure if that is from dry weather, no fertilize or both. We are going to drill in Oat and Rye in a week or so.
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Whitetail Institutes Pure Attraction has the Oats /Brassica blend and has worked for years. Just have to apply nitrogen to maximize tonnage
I like the Whitetail seed. Just a bit expensive. We have had great success with there clover products over the years.
How does your tractor handle the drill? I have a John Deere 4 series tractor that has similar capabilities as your machine. The specs on the Deere say it can lift almost 200lb more than the MX5800. I'd love to purchase a drill like yours if it can handle it. Any honest thoughts?
Very interesting. We too have tried no till, buckwheat, rye etc. with VERY MIXED results. We have a not till drill, but no crimper. We have had problems with the buckwheat getting to tall to plant into, and the difficulties terminating the WR in the spring. This year because of RU resistant weeds, we had to terminate some of our plots with Brash. We when tilled the soil up and drilled in a fall green mix, and another small plot of a brassica mix. We intend to plant some WR in Sept., but not too much as it tends to take over in the spring as I stated and is very difficult of us to terminate. Bob SW WI
Great info. Like I mention in the video, results will be different at each property. Just too many variables to expect best practices to work everywhere. Frustrating but trial and error seems to be the only way to crack the code for your land.
Do you have to put something in the brassica or can you calculate your drill low enough and how much seed per acre
We have the small seed box so we can run straight brassica if needed.
Say I have the same drill as you guys. What setting are y’all using for small box and brassica?
I show the small seed box setting in video #99. We did the calibration and it came out to 35lbs per acre.
Did you ever lower the drive wheel to the second or third lowest hole. I know you were running the drill wrong in the video from 2 years ago. If not you will have bad results with some seed. I have over 900 acres planted with my 3p606nt.
We did make some changes to some setting on the cutters. Works much better now. Drill is working well. Soil is our issue. So sandy. Getting better but very slow process.
What settings did you drill the Big Sexy on out of the small box?
I show the small seed box setting in video #99. We did the calibration and it came out to 35lbs per acre.