I enjoy the in depth info provided in the "round-ups" that you do. It's nice because pants are expensive and the average Joe can't afford to try multiple options at once to see what works best.
I’ve been riding the DHaRCO stuff this year and really been digging it, obviously not as diverse and a smaller line of gear but for a newer company they make some solid gear
I wish the TLD design team would design a belt system instead of the velcro adjustment on the sides. Got a pair of their shorts this year in my waist size and I am spending more time pulling them up than I am forgetting they are there. I am gonna check out those R-Core though, doesn't really get cold enough over here in SE WA to warrant the extreme pants. Thanks for the reviews.
7:11 I have Endrua Singletrack II, they have even more, it's inverted, most of it is the stronger material and a strip like this is the thin material, MT500II has less, only on the side, but still more than this. Would be nice if the Troy Lee trousers had reinforced saddle area.
Really love the TLD. Im a big dude and it fits great where others are snug/too small. Didn't get to warm during a long pedal ride in 12-15 degree C too.
@@TheLoamWolf Thank you for the review! Your head to head reviews helps me a lot on gear. Like I said, being 6'5" with a big waist, upper legs and long inseam makes it difficult to find stuff that fits me. But your gear reviews (ordered an IXS triffer FF for example) helps a ton!
I'm only 5'7 155 lbs with a 31" waist. Like all my other pants, I had to take them to the tailor (28" inseam) but they're my favorite pair of MTB pants. Like most TLD products, the aesthetic looks sick, but fit and feel are on point too. EDIT: I wear em at the bike park. Had 3 pretty bad wrecks, one really bad where I scraped up against rocks/dirt. Pants held up well so plenty durable and offers solid protection.
around here the NF pants are super popular. Locally made as well. Personally I have the specialized demo pro pants and they have performed beyond expectations. Taken many spills in them and they have held up great. the slim fit may be off putting at first but on trail they just feel super dialed and don't snag on anything. thanks for the great reviews
Great info! We need to work on Deschutes County and Bend allowing eMTB! There are people with health issues that could ride if allowed to use eMTBs. It is just crazy!
As a backcountry skier and MTB guy, I prefer to layer. Using a good quality shell with merino wool base layer. None of my ride gear is lined, works for me.
It would be nice if you mentioned the sizing and your inseam measurement, and the inseam measurement of the trousers, and adjustment, I know you mentioned the waist measurement, 32 some times. Also pockets, phone pocket, and show how it fits. I think the one on Endura Singletrack II could be better, as phone is too much to the side, I wish it was more on top.
Pearl Izumi used to make the Amfib Lite pants, maybe they still do, and I bought a pair last year and they're amazing for in the 40's etc. Also have a pair of HandUp pants I'm looking forward to trying soon as well (they did awesome for my round of golf the other day).
I just ordered and received some TLD Skyline pant.....they showed up and after I slipped them on my wife asked if they were women's. LOL No, they were men's size 34. I'm 6'4" at 189, it's a struggle finding anything with 36" inseam. Needless to say, they're being exchanged for a 36??
Thank you for the review, you covered everything really well, almost. It would be great if you could cover how accurate the size charts are. I have to local bike shops that don't carry much apparel so I have to order everything online. Returning pants that are supposed to be a 34 waist, but aren't, gets expensive.
Dude I have bought some well reviewed fox MTB trousers today and Im a size 38" jeans, I have thought about reviewing them. there are reviews for them out but none for big guys these fit perfectly and are true to jean size
^^ This seasons trail pant from specialiced has such a sportive cut... I needed to refund, because I was not able to get my feet through the legs at all. Crazy. I´d stick to the demo pant which is real nice (been using these for 2 years all summer & winter and they feel great).
I guess the extreme taper mgiht be good for people with huge thighs, but most trousers should be great for big thighs, maybe a track cyclist designed them, but for most it will be overkill, and annoying. so good they fixed that. But with most trousers the issue is too short legs, and sizing up to get the correct length means need for a belt, but some trousers don't have a belt loops, I guess some have enough adjustment with Velcro straps some don't. Leg length issue was the case with Endura I have 82cm inseam, so went for large, I made the retailer measure it, but needed to use a belt.
All of them fit over pads fine. We only ride with pads and if anything didn't work with pads, they would have been cut from the list quick! Obviously some pads are much thicker (DH/hard shell) than others, but we tried a variety of pads with each pant and found them to work well.
Just bought 3 pairs of Layer 8 Dri Fit insulated pants. Windproof and water rain resistant in the front and the rear of the pants have a waterproof panel on the back of the calves. Comfy at temps 60 degrees or below. They were $12 apiece at TJ Maxx. Expensive bike pants are for posers.
@@TheLoamWolf Have AMFIB winter tights w/o the chamois. The fleece eventually rubbed through to the outer neoprene layer at the seat bones, granted it was about 6 years of use. They are great for really cold wet weather, but honestly, most rides are more suited for the pants I bought at TJ Maxx. They are called LR 8 Defend. The most comfy long pants i have ever ridden in. I think they are winter jogging pants.
Hey we're big fans and own some of your pad packs for our motos! We'd say the Fox Flexairs are probably the coolest/best vented however Giro just dropped some new pants that will likely be pretty close. As a heads up, MTB pants are typically a lot thinner/more tapered than moto pants so knee braces will be tough underneath! Fox Flexair Pants | alnk.to/8EDJykX
I've been trying to find riding pants that 1) fit and 2) don't break the bank. My problem is I'm 6'3" so if they only make pants by width they all wind up being way too short. How do these pants fit for tall people?
I've seen reviews of Fox trousers in the past, they a complaint was they had to short inseam, but I've seen Fox trousers on women with big thighs, short inseam, bigger butt they fit perfectly, so clearly fits somebody, but I suspect they mgiht not fit me. They were a different model, but fit so well. But I have long legs and smaller butt and thighs. Maybe they were a women's specific model. Seems like Fox designs their trousers for a specific group of people and exclude many people. Maybe upsizing could work for the inseam but then I suspect they will be too baggy. Have Fox resolved the issue with baggy groin, butt area?
Fox pants have I believe a 32 inseam across all their sizes. If your 5'10 or shorter, then fit is gonna be pretty close to spot on. Definitely run short if you are on the taller end of the spectrum. FOX isn't the only one with this issue though, a number of brands with pants that have an athletic/racer cut tend to have a set inseam across all sizes. Need a brand to come out with some "Big & Tall" options.
The most comfortable pair of trail pants I’ve ever put on are Endura Singletrack 2’s. I love the leg cuffs and wish their pants geared more towards rain had the same cuffs. I did purchase the new version of the Endura MT500 spray trousers. Real comfortable but sacrificing some comfort for key waterproofed areas. Really wished the cuffs were like the single track pants but understand why they aren’t, water would be funneled into shoes. I do prefer riding pants & shorts I can wear a belt with. I know this is not most people’s choice.
@@SSH01 I bought the Endura MT 500 spray trousers and absolutely love them. They are not the waterproof ones, only in the seat. But they do a great job shedding off water. I went this route because they are quite a bit cheaper than the Endura MT 500 waterproof trouser 2’s. My intention was to buy the waterproof version also when they went on sale if I liked riding in the single tracks. I wasn’t able to find the waterproof version locally to try on so it was also more of a risk to buy as I would have to order them. But having tried on two versions of the Endura Luke and both being more comfortable than other pants I’ve tried I’m pretty sure the waterproof MT 500’s would be great. I forget why exactly I was leaning to their MT 500’s opposed to the other waterproof pants they have. They may be better reviewed or meant for my type of riding opposed to commuting. I do remember the bike shop I bought mine from, the owner had been wearing both the MT 500 shorts & pants for years.
TLD are pretty good, Fox Defend are definitely the baggiest, 100% DH pants are good. These are trail pants though, and as such they're designed to be a slimmer fit for trail level pads. DH pants have more room for big DH pads.
I don't think any of these suit my needs. I bought Endura MT500II I needed waterproof trousers it had the fit I needed and were in stock, but Large was too wide for 32ish waist, but I have 82cm inseam so I went for it, also went for Singletrack II troursers, I tried those in down to -1C it was chilly at the start but was perfect once I got moving, that was without the Marino base layer. But Endura MT500II was perfect with Swix RaceX Marino base layer in -5C and fo(might feel colder than -10C)g, and -10C. The lower area of the trousers fit nicely over Space Brace2 and shoes with gaiter, both combined. not too baggy or snug.
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What I see is a bunch of manufactures laughing all the way to the bank....where any ole stretch jeans will work just fine....choose, heavy, light, tighter, looser, whatever. And you don’t need to cry if you rip them. I suppose if your group is riding 5 to 10K bikes, whatever....
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I enjoy the in depth info provided in the "round-ups" that you do. It's nice because pants are expensive and the average Joe can't afford to try multiple options at once to see what works best.
I guess manufacturers don’t think tall thin guys exist seeing how 32x34 is a mythical clothing item in the MTB world.
Try 30x34 lol, it’s impossible
Yeah, I’m a 32x36. I’ve never seen it in my whole life.
These are all made for guys under 6ft
Just kept staring at the cammo pants sitting next to you… of course there TLD! Always the best looking gear🤘🏻
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I’ve been riding the DHaRCO stuff this year and really been digging it, obviously not as diverse and a smaller line of gear but for a newer company they make some solid gear
Informative video, I've been researching pants myself. Was hoping to see the new Tasco Scout pants and/or Endura. Appreciate the content!
I wish the TLD design team would design a belt system instead of the velcro adjustment on the sides. Got a pair of their shorts this year in my waist size and I am spending more time pulling them up than I am forgetting they are there. I am gonna check out those R-Core though, doesn't really get cold enough over here in SE WA to warrant the extreme pants. Thanks for the reviews.
I have been riding the Fox Defend Fire pants here in Iceland. Great pants for cold weather and they hold up really well.
Yes they are!
good for rain?
7:11 I have Endrua Singletrack II, they have even more, it's inverted, most of it is the stronger material and a strip like this is the thin material, MT500II has less, only on the side, but still more than this. Would be nice if the Troy Lee trousers had reinforced saddle area.
Really love the TLD. Im a big dude and it fits great where others are snug/too small. Didn't get to warm during a long pedal ride in 12-15 degree C too.
Thanks for the feedback Jens. Much appreciated.
@@TheLoamWolf Thank you for the review!
Your head to head reviews helps me a lot on gear. Like I said, being 6'5" with a big waist, upper legs and long inseam makes it difficult to find stuff that fits me. But your gear reviews (ordered an IXS triffer FF for example) helps a ton!
I'm only 5'7 155 lbs with a 31" waist. Like all my other pants, I had to take them to the tailor (28" inseam) but they're my favorite pair of MTB pants. Like most TLD products, the aesthetic looks sick, but fit and feel are on point too.
EDIT: I wear em at the bike park. Had 3 pretty bad wrecks, one really bad where I scraped up against rocks/dirt. Pants held up well so plenty durable and offers solid protection.
@@topspot4834 what size waist did you go for 30 or 32?? I’ve heard the waist runs large on these and to size down?
I understand you are provided products from competitive cyclist but the king of MTB pants are made by NF. No list is complete without them.
Interesting! We've never tried their products before. We'll shoot them an email and see if they'd like to send us a pair to test!
Nukeproof has the best pants, better than NF
What is nf??
@@mr.mduweit8926 I am guessing North Face
@@mr.mduweit8926 needs factory
around here the NF pants are super popular. Locally made as well. Personally I have the specialized demo pro pants and they have performed beyond expectations. Taken many spills in them and they have held up great. the slim fit may be off putting at first but on trail they just feel super dialed and don't snag on anything. thanks for the great reviews
Great info! We need to work on Deschutes County and Bend allowing eMTB! There are people with health issues that could ride if allowed to use eMTBs. It is just crazy!
As a backcountry skier and MTB guy, I prefer to layer. Using a good quality shell with merino wool base layer. None of my ride gear is lined, works for me.
It would be nice if you mentioned the sizing and your inseam measurement, and the inseam measurement of the trousers, and adjustment, I know you mentioned the waist measurement, 32 some times.
Also pockets, phone pocket, and show how it fits. I think the one on Endura Singletrack II could be better, as phone is too much to the side, I wish it was more on top.
Love reviews like this. Thanks for uploading👍
Our pleasure!
What size did you guys test? Are they all true to size? Which run big or small? That info would help!
Pearl Izumi used to make the Amfib Lite pants, maybe they still do, and I bought a pair last year and they're amazing for in the 40's etc. Also have a pair of HandUp pants I'm looking forward to trying soon as well (they did awesome for my round of golf the other day).
i have fox 3l like them alot
I just ordered and received some TLD Skyline pant.....they showed up and after I slipped them on my wife asked if they were women's. LOL No, they were men's size 34. I'm 6'4" at 189, it's a struggle finding anything with 36" inseam. Needless to say, they're being exchanged for a 36??
I’m 6’6 abs was 215 for awhile… I agree 36x32’s are hard to find
6'3 here. I'm a 34 waist but if I order TLDs in a 34 they're way too short. Ordered these in a 36.
Thanks for the review and perfect timing for my next purchase.
Glad we could help! Hope the discount code saves you a few bucks too.
Thank you for the review, you covered everything really well, almost. It would be great if you could cover how accurate the size charts are. I have to local bike shops that don't carry much apparel so I have to order everything online. Returning pants that are supposed to be a 34 waist, but aren't, gets expensive.
Noted!
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This is a selid option fir sure and definitely make that skyline pant that we wear a lot in those shoulder seasons. 👌🏽
Jodhpurs are what the (English) riding pants are called. I think I’ll go with the TLDs. (Maybe also the Fox for spring/fall). Thanks!
I think you need to always include the wide-ass man test for us “normal” sized people.
Dude I have bought some well reviewed fox MTB trousers today and Im a size 38" jeans, I have thought about reviewing them. there are reviews for them out but none for big guys
these fit perfectly and are true to jean size
@@waybackaircooled1764 I’d like to see those. Seems like ALL outdoor softgoods tend to be designed for super slim people. I have meat on my bones.
^^ This seasons trail pant from specialiced has such a sportive cut... I needed to refund, because I was not able to get my feet through the legs at all. Crazy.
I´d stick to the demo pant which is real nice (been using these for 2 years all summer & winter and they feel great).
I guess the extreme taper mgiht be good for people with huge thighs, but most trousers should be great for big thighs, maybe a track cyclist designed them, but for most it will be overkill, and annoying. so good they fixed that.
But with most trousers the issue is too short legs, and sizing up to get the correct length means need for a belt, but some trousers don't have a belt loops, I guess some have enough adjustment with Velcro straps some don't. Leg length issue was the case with Endura I have 82cm inseam, so went for large, I made the retailer measure it, but needed to use a belt.
Thanks for the mtb pants reviews! 😊
Our pleasure!
Endura and AlpineStar is missing for me🙂
Thanks for the suggestion. We've had some Astars pants in the past and loved them.
What is the best pant for easy access for trail head?
No mention of how they fit over knee pads.
All of them fit over pads fine. We only ride with pads and if anything didn't work with pads, they would have been cut from the list quick! Obviously some pads are much thicker (DH/hard shell) than others, but we tried a variety of pads with each pant and found them to work well.
Which pants for taller rider's? Im 6'4 with a 36 inseam but slim 34 waist
Just bought 3 pairs of Layer 8 Dri Fit insulated pants. Windproof and water rain resistant in the front and the rear of the pants have a waterproof panel on the back of the calves. Comfy at temps 60 degrees or below. They were $12 apiece at TJ Maxx. Expensive bike pants are for posers.
Thanks for the tip, we'll have to check 'em out and see how they compare.
@@TheLoamWolf Have AMFIB winter tights w/o the chamois. The fleece eventually rubbed through to the outer neoprene layer at the seat bones, granted it was about 6 years of use. They are great for really cold wet weather, but honestly, most rides are more suited for the pants I bought at TJ Maxx. They are called LR 8 Defend. The most comfy long pants i have ever ridden in. I think they are winter jogging pants.
RIde NF DP3 pants!
We're gonna hit them up!
which ones would be the least hot in summer?
Hey we're big fans and own some of your pad packs for our motos! We'd say the Fox Flexairs are probably the coolest/best vented however Giro just dropped some new pants that will likely be pretty close. As a heads up, MTB pants are typically a lot thinner/more tapered than moto pants so knee braces will be tough underneath!
Fox Flexair Pants | alnk.to/8EDJykX
I've been trying to find riding pants that 1) fit and 2) don't break the bank. My problem is I'm 6'3" so if they only make pants by width they all wind up being way too short. How do these pants fit for tall people?
Dude, the TLD fits me perfect! I'm 6'5" and love 'm!
That is a common thing we hear...
This.
Which ones fit with knee pads on best?
Thats what I'm wondering, why test without knee pads
Anyone have any recommendations for pants for hot weather? I'd rather have a super breathable pair I can just layer in the cooler months.
I've seen reviews of Fox trousers in the past, they a complaint was they had to short inseam, but I've seen Fox trousers on women with big thighs, short inseam, bigger butt they fit perfectly, so clearly fits somebody, but I suspect they mgiht not fit me. They were a different model, but fit so well. But I have long legs and smaller butt and thighs. Maybe they were a women's specific model. Seems like Fox designs their trousers for a specific group of people and exclude many people. Maybe upsizing could work for the inseam but then I suspect they will be too baggy. Have Fox resolved the issue with baggy groin, butt area?
Fox pants have I believe a 32 inseam across all their sizes. If your 5'10 or shorter, then fit is gonna be pretty close to spot on. Definitely run short if you are on the taller end of the spectrum. FOX isn't the only one with this issue though, a number of brands with pants that have an athletic/racer cut tend to have a set inseam across all sizes. Need a brand to come out with some "Big & Tall" options.
How is the waterproofing on the fox defend or would I be better off with the 100%
If you're just looking for water proofing, 100% is a true water pant. so it will be drier.
I m looking to ride with pants, but wonder which are good to wear with knee protector and under pants armor
These all work with trail to aggressive trail/enduro knee pads but some, like the Specialized get tight if you try and wear full blown DH pads.
The most comfortable pair of trail pants I’ve ever put on are Endura Singletrack 2’s. I love the leg cuffs and wish their pants geared more towards rain had the same cuffs.
I did purchase the new version of the Endura MT500 spray trousers. Real comfortable but sacrificing some comfort for key waterproofed areas. Really wished the cuffs were like the single track pants but understand why they aren’t, water would be funneled into shoes.
I do prefer riding pants & shorts I can wear a belt with. I know this is not most people’s choice.
Have you found any like that for rain yet ?
@@SSH01 I bought the Endura MT 500 spray trousers and absolutely love them. They are not the waterproof ones, only in the seat. But they do a great job shedding off water. I went this route because they are quite a bit cheaper than the Endura MT 500 waterproof trouser 2’s. My intention was to buy the waterproof version also when they went on sale if I liked riding in the single tracks.
I wasn’t able to find the waterproof version locally to try on so it was also more of a risk to buy as I would have to order them. But having tried on two versions of the Endura Luke and both being more comfortable than other pants I’ve tried I’m pretty sure the waterproof MT 500’s would be great. I forget why exactly I was leaning to their MT 500’s opposed to the other waterproof pants they have. They may be better reviewed or meant for my type of riding opposed to commuting. I do remember the bike shop I bought mine from, the owner had been wearing both the MT 500 shorts & pants for years.
Cactus Supertrousers.
any of the pants allowing for bulkyer kneepads to be worn under them?
TLD are pretty good, Fox Defend are definitely the baggiest, 100% DH pants are good. These are trail pants though, and as such they're designed to be a slimmer fit for trail level pads. DH pants have more room for big DH pads.
I don't think any of these suit my needs. I bought Endura MT500II I needed waterproof trousers it had the fit I needed and were in stock, but Large was too wide for 32ish waist, but I have 82cm inseam so I went for it, also went for Singletrack II troursers, I tried those in down to -1C it was chilly at the start but was perfect once I got moving, that was without the Marino base layer.
But Endura MT500II was perfect with Swix RaceX Marino base layer in -5C and fo(might feel colder than -10C)g, and -10C.
The lower area of the trousers fit nicely over Space Brace2 and shoes with gaiter, both combined. not too baggy or snug.
Need a durable test on these. Which have holes in the ass after 3 rides? Etc
Man! They don't fit my budget at all, gonna have to look for other options...
I cant bring myself to spend $150 on pants, Wrangler makes a stretchy outdoor pant for $22. They rip on a crash no big deal.
But they rarely rip. Those are the go-to pants for our crew. Definitely can't be beat with great zip pockets
Decathlon makes some also, just go to the "hiking" section, good price and great quality, only not too many waterproof options.
There's always that!
Hey leatt size are the worse to fit an average american, that M size is way smaller than most brands
Thanks for sharing. We have noticed some variations between models and how they fit for sure...
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What I see is a bunch of manufactures laughing all the way to the bank....where any ole stretch jeans will work just fine....choose, heavy, light, tighter, looser, whatever. And you don’t need to cry if you rip them. I suppose if your group is riding 5 to 10K bikes, whatever....
zero protection, good luck with that
Gosh these are so overpriced.
Only if pay full retail. They're often on sale 25%+ off.