I completely agree about Otis Taylor--he is in the throes of end-stage Parkinson's disease and is being cared for by his family-Len Dawson has even said that there is no way that Mr. Taylor shouldn't be in the HOF
Ken there is absolutely NO QUESTION ABOUT THIS! Taylor's numbers are as good as or better than 2/3rds of the wide-receivers/flankers already in the Hall. And as far as his contemporaries are concerned, he was as good or better than all of them. Taylor's difficulty in getting into the Pro Football Hall used to be the people who cast the ballots. Many of these same people were PRO-NFL types who grudgingly if EVER gave the AFL players credit for their achievements, as they reasoned that the AFL was an inferior league to the NFL, hence the players performing in the AFL didn't deserve as much consideration to those who played in the NFL at that time. Nowadays, not too many football fans remember his achievements as most of them are too young. From what I understand, Otis is battling Parkinson's disease and is struggling with it. Like most of us here, I would LOVE to see him get nominated and then inducted into the PFHOF before he leaves this earth. Though there were many very good wide receivers in his era, IMO there was nobody better in the time he played. Long Live the AFL!
Taylor was as good a wide receiver as any that ever played. Wells had three remarkable seasons with Oakland but that’s insufficient credentials for HOF consideration.
Len Dawson's had just returned from his father's funeral in Alliance, Ohio before this game--it was clear this still weighed heavily on his mind--as he threw 5 INT's-two returned for TD's
These two teams had a fierce rivalry and always seemed to meet in playoff games. A lot of great players on both teams; Warren McVea #6, Frank Pitts #25 (would play for the Browns), Otis Taylor #89, George Atkinson #43, Ben Davidson # 83(handlebar moustache), and Warren Wells #81, to name a few.
Add HOFers Gene Upshaw (‘Highway’ 63) and Jim Otto (00) from Oakland, Buck Buchanan (86) and Willie Lanier (63) from K.C. Interestingly, Pitts finished his career with the Raiders in ‘74 & caught a pass in the last-minute drive that culminated with the Sea of Hands reception.
@@balrog322 When mentioning the PFHOF, don't forget Bobby Bell #78, Curley Culp #61 and Len Dawson #16. And though we lost him back in the spring, Darryl Lamonica #3 for the Raiders deserves to be in the Hall of Fame IMO. The Chiefs family just lost #51 Jim Lynch. All were tremendous players who helped to build the flavor and intensity of one of pro football's greatest rivalries.
@@Chiefsfansince-qb1kt We would be remiss to omit Emmitt Thomas on the KC side of the ball, and Willie Brown for the S & B. Concur with you the Kansas City-Oakland rivalry of the late 60s and early 70s was among the fiercest in NFL annals, rivaling, so to speak, the Pittsburgh-Oakland feuds of the 70s. The difference, of course, what gave the matchup its special edge, was the Chiefs and Raiders played in the same division.
@@balrog322 True that! And though the Chiefs went into a decline in the 70's the Raiders stayed competitive enough to enable those 70's battles with Pittsburgh and Miami. Always entertaining. It took until the mid-to-late 80's before the Chiefs could get back to being a competitive squad (John Makovic era) and then when Marty Schottenheimer took the helm as Head Coach "Maryball" was in vogue, Arrowhead filled to capacity again and the Chiefs began to be a good team for some time. As a long-time Chiefs & AFL fan (nearly all of my life), I still call them the OAKLAND Raiders, regardless of where they play. Had it not been for the City of Oakland and the passionate Raider fan base of the Bay Area, no way are the Raiders the organization they were during those times. Al Davis, (as much as I despised him as a younger man) was a true Soldier, even a GENERAL for the AFL! He detested Pete Rozelle and the NFL and had he had his way, the AFL would still be a league in existence today. No merger would have taken place in 1970. Me and many like me would've been just fine with that. I don't begrudge Lamar Hunt for brokering the deal with the NFL for the merger because it's been good for professional football. But imagine, the AFL and NFL still separate leagues, much like Major League Baseball and then the Super Bowl would be a true Championship game between two leagues that had a real disdain for one-another. I wouldn't mind that at all. Here's to you Ange Coniglio! Long Live the AFL!
Charlie Jones’ narration is in error here. Conners 75-yard pick occurred late in the third quarter with Oakland leading by three; the Pitts TD pass came well into the fourth quarter, the final score in a game Kansas City probably would have won but for the seven turnovers.
If Kansas City had won this game the likelihood is that they would have hosted the last AFL title game--as it turned out they lost both games to Oakland in 1969 and were on the road for both of their playoff games---KC Municipal Stadium would host only one playoff game during the time the Chiefs played there-and that was the infamous Christmas Day game in 1971 when KC lost to Miami in double OT (they subsequently moved to Arrowhead Stadium in 1972)
Interestingly Kansas City hated Oakland because Charlie Findlay moved the KC Athletics MLB team to Oakland when he couldn't get a new stadium---anything that had "Oakland" on it was despised in the mid-west after this---sad that this rivalry will only be remembered in the history books with the move of Oakland to Las Vegas
It wasn't so much the AFL product on the field that led to the merger as it was the bidding wars the NFL and AFL were forced into to sign college talent
Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
So should be Warren Wells.
I completely agree about Otis Taylor--he is in the throes of end-stage Parkinson's disease and is being cared for by his family-Len Dawson has even said that there is no way that Mr. Taylor shouldn't be in the HOF
Ken there is absolutely NO QUESTION ABOUT THIS! Taylor's numbers are as good as or better than 2/3rds of the wide-receivers/flankers already in the Hall. And as far as his contemporaries are concerned, he was as good or better than all of them. Taylor's difficulty in getting into the Pro Football Hall used to be the people who cast the ballots. Many of these same people were PRO-NFL types who grudgingly if EVER gave the AFL players credit for their achievements, as they reasoned that the AFL was an inferior league to the NFL, hence the players performing in the AFL didn't deserve as much consideration to those who played in the NFL at that time. Nowadays, not too many football fans remember his achievements as most of them are too young. From what I understand, Otis is battling Parkinson's disease and is struggling with it. Like most of us here, I would LOVE to see him get nominated and then inducted into the PFHOF before he leaves this earth. Though there were many very good wide receivers in his era, IMO there was nobody better in the time he played. Long Live the AFL!
Taylor was as good a wide receiver as any that ever played. Wells had three remarkable seasons with Oakland but that’s insufficient credentials for HOF consideration.
Atkinsons interception was awesome
it was a flat strip theft takeaway it was orsome!!!!!....OAKLAND!!!!!RAiDERS!!!!!FAEVA!!!!! Till my team returns HOME!!!!🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹🦏🐘🦍🐆🐅🐬🐳🦈🐊
Len Dawson's had just returned from his father's funeral in Alliance, Ohio before this game--it was clear this still weighed heavily on his mind--as he threw 5 INT's-two returned for TD's
These two teams had a fierce rivalry and always seemed to meet in playoff games. A lot of great players on both teams; Warren McVea #6, Frank Pitts #25 (would play for the Browns), Otis Taylor #89, George Atkinson #43, Ben Davidson # 83(handlebar moustache), and Warren Wells #81, to name a few.
Add HOFers Gene Upshaw (‘Highway’ 63) and Jim Otto (00) from Oakland, Buck Buchanan (86) and Willie Lanier (63) from K.C. Interestingly, Pitts finished his career with the Raiders in ‘74 & caught a pass in the last-minute drive that culminated with the Sea of Hands reception.
You can’t forget #16 George Blanda!
@@balrog322 When mentioning the PFHOF, don't forget Bobby Bell #78, Curley Culp #61 and Len Dawson #16. And though we lost him back in the spring, Darryl Lamonica #3 for the Raiders deserves to be in the Hall of Fame IMO. The Chiefs family just lost #51 Jim Lynch. All were tremendous players who helped to build the flavor and intensity of one of pro football's greatest rivalries.
@@Chiefsfansince-qb1kt We would be remiss to omit Emmitt Thomas on the KC side of the ball, and Willie Brown for the S & B. Concur with you the Kansas City-Oakland rivalry of the late 60s and early 70s was among the fiercest in NFL annals, rivaling, so to speak, the Pittsburgh-Oakland feuds of the 70s. The difference, of course, what gave the matchup its special edge, was the Chiefs and Raiders played in the same division.
@@balrog322 True that! And though the Chiefs went into a decline in the 70's the Raiders stayed competitive enough to enable those 70's battles with Pittsburgh and Miami. Always entertaining. It took until the mid-to-late 80's before the Chiefs could get back to being a competitive squad (John Makovic era) and then when Marty Schottenheimer took the helm as Head Coach "Maryball" was in vogue, Arrowhead filled to capacity again and the Chiefs began to be a good team for some time. As a long-time Chiefs & AFL fan (nearly all of my life), I still call them the OAKLAND Raiders, regardless of where they play. Had it not been for the City of Oakland and the passionate Raider fan base of the Bay Area, no way are the Raiders the organization they were during those times. Al Davis, (as much as I despised him as a younger man) was a true Soldier, even a GENERAL for the AFL! He detested Pete Rozelle and the NFL and had he had his way, the AFL would still be a league in existence today. No merger would have taken place in 1970. Me and many like me would've been just fine with that. I don't begrudge Lamar Hunt for brokering the deal with the NFL for the merger because it's been good for professional football. But imagine, the AFL and NFL still separate leagues, much like Major League Baseball and then the Super Bowl would be a true Championship game between two leagues that had a real disdain for one-another. I wouldn't mind that at all. Here's to you Ange Coniglio! Long Live the AFL!
Charlie Jones’ narration is in error here. Conners 75-yard pick occurred late in the third quarter with Oakland leading by three; the Pitts TD pass came well into the fourth quarter, the final score in a game Kansas City probably would have won but for the seven turnovers.
THOSE....were the days!
If Kansas City had won this game the likelihood is that they would have hosted the last AFL title game--as it turned out they lost both games to Oakland in 1969 and were on the road for both of their playoff games---KC Municipal Stadium would host only one playoff game during the time the Chiefs played there-and that was the infamous Christmas Day game in 1971 when KC lost to Miami in double OT (they subsequently moved to Arrowhead Stadium in 1972)
Chiefs-Raiders games were something special from the mid 60s to the early 70s. They absolutely hated each other.
Interestingly Kansas City hated Oakland because Charlie Findlay moved the KC Athletics MLB team to Oakland when he couldn't get a new stadium---anything that had "Oakland" on it was despised in the mid-west after this---sad that this rivalry will only be remembered in the history books with the move of Oakland to Las Vegas
John Horn: I can't think of any rivalry today that is anywhere this intense. I think for the most part the players on all teams now are pals.
Nothing has changed in 2023 except for the Raiders playing in 3 cities
@@bufnyfan1 And it was said after the A's moved Oakland was the luckiest city since Hiroshima
@@michaelleroy9281 I would call that a big change.
Kansas City would finish 2 nd place because of 2 losses to Oakland, but The won the AFL Championship against Oakland and then the Super Bowl
My three favorite all-time NFL (AFL) teams: 1. NY Jets 2. Oakland Raiders 3. KC Chiefs
100% agree and in that order.
I was there.
Dan Connors!
7 turnovers and only lost by 3?
You can see how these games gave credibility to the AFL product on the field. Ultimately the NFL had no choice but to agree to a merger.
It wasn't so much the AFL product on the field that led to the merger as it was the bidding wars the NFL and AFL were forced into to sign college talent