I have been focusing on work and not playing but one of these days I want to go through each of these games on a real board while listening. I’m very grateful this content exist and I hope in continues!
Even though the player was clearly using AI, it was very interesting game, having your thoughts and seeing how can one think when playing from behind. Also, I think that your playouts were quite low during the review, so it's possible that they had much more playouts and some of the yellow/green spots were blue on their AI.
I hope that there will be a system that will know to locate people who play with AI. I think that we must have software that has the function of warning and kicking players for rumors. There is something new that is used in AI.
Hey In-seong! These videos are great, really glad you're making them :) I've done videos and live-streams just like this content so it's funny watching you deal with them destroying themselves without you doing much, them not resigning, and also the AI issue haha I know your pain! Thanks Sabumnim!
Your Katrain AI needs more time to find better moves. Your opponent had a powerful computer and their AI read moves more deeply. It was a fun video thanks to your teaching, even though I'm mad at the cheater for ruining the game.
Very interesting as always, you put a great fight especially with such time settings, impressive! Better to play against players with "real" names and game history going forward...
"*To beat your opponent you must think like your opponent*" - Konfuzius That in mind, your 69 kyuu leveled opponent put your moves into katago and succeeded for ones
I hope that there will be a system that will know to locate people who play with AI. I think that we must have software that has the function of warning and kicking players for rumors. There is something new that is used in AI.
It was interesting you thought B was making mistakes when it was actually AI. Ali’s it took you quite awhile to figure out you were against AI. I’m not criticizing you, it’s just interesting from a psychological perspective. It’s a lot easier when you’re just watching and not playing the game, but when he played the B6 followed by B9 combination, that looked to me like a pro level player. That was perfect, especially to see it that fast, and not just a pro but a strong pro. My experience playing against stronger players is their stones feel very powerful, and nothing you try works. Also all their stones wind up on being in just the right place. I was impressed with how well you played, and also kept your composure.
who asked them how do you know if something in front of you is being used by AI or not being used by AI How many percentages are required to know if a player is playing normally or with AI? 80-90 or 70 percent
@@YungusengDojang If you click "analysis options" at the top, you can choose "deeper analysis" to make the AI do more playouts in the current position. By default the AI does 500 extra visits each time you use this, and you can do it multiple times if you like, or change the number of extra visits in the settings on the left side (General & Engine Settings -> Maximum visits in analysis) . You can also use "Deeper full game analysis" to do more playouts for the whole game, or a portion of the game. Thank you for making these videos!
@@YungusengDojangKatago is very greedy in terms of computing resources. If you have a weak GPU or no GPU at all, it might be hard for your computer to reach decent amounts of visits. There are surprisingly few resources on the subject, but it seems that around 500 visits are needed to reach top pro level. About 3000 probably suffice to reach superhuman level. Below 5, AI is still very good at the opening cause it relies on its "experience" developed by playing millions of games. However, after a few moves it reaches unknown territory and must rely on "reading power" and "intuition of shapes", just like us and with no reading power it gets quite bad it sharp situations. Visits give the AI its reading power.
I have been focusing on work and not playing but one of these days I want to go through each of these games on a real board while listening. I’m very grateful this content exist and I hope in continues!
Even though the player was clearly using AI, it was very interesting game, having your thoughts and seeing how can one think when playing from behind.
Also, I think that your playouts were quite low during the review, so it's possible that they had much more playouts and some of the yellow/green spots were blue on their AI.
Thank you!
I hope that there will be a system that will know to locate people who play with AI. I think that we must have software that has the function of warning and kicking players for rumors. There is something new that is used in AI.
I'm very far away from your level but I really enjoy the way you keep making clear and accessible comments for everyone. Thank you for the video :)
Hey In-seong!
These videos are great, really glad you're making them :)
I've done videos and live-streams just like this content so it's funny watching you deal with them destroying themselves without you doing much, them not resigning, and also the AI issue haha
I know your pain!
Thanks Sabumnim!
Hello Ben, Good to see you here :) Thanks for the comment!
Your Katrain AI needs more time to find better moves. Your opponent had a powerful computer and their AI read moves more deeply. It was a fun video thanks to your teaching, even though I'm mad at the cheater for ruining the game.
He didn't give it any visits. It was at like 2-20 visits lol.
It was actually very interesting, also the big lesson for me is that it took a lot of damage in the game to break your confidence. 💪
Glad to see cheaters get their comeuppance. I run into a lot of them on fox 6--7d level, but they usually go away when I level up to 8d.
You put a great fight!
Very interesting as always, you put a great fight especially with such time settings, impressive! Better to play against players with "real" names and game history going forward...
Very interesting!
"*To beat your opponent you must think like your opponent*" - Konfuzius
That in mind, your 69 kyuu leveled opponent put your moves into katago and succeeded for ones
In tygem's korean software people can actually pay to use ai during their games, that's why I stopped playing on tygem
I played 27 games so far, and got only one case. So i don't think that it's a good idea to bann the server because of that reason :)
@@YungusengDojang Do you have an opinion on Fox?
@@christiansmith2658 No, I have never played on Fox yet. I hope someone else can answer your question. I want to know that, too!
@@YungusengDojangfox is full of AI player especially those 5-6D
@@procreatineGO My experience also. Very many start cheating after a bad fuseki.
I hope that there will be a system that will know to locate people who play with AI. I think that we must have software that has the function of warning and kicking players for rumors. There is something new that is used in AI.
It was interesting you thought B was making mistakes when it was actually AI. Ali’s it took you quite awhile to figure out you were against AI. I’m not criticizing you, it’s just interesting from a psychological perspective. It’s a lot easier when you’re just watching and not playing the game, but when he played the B6 followed by B9 combination, that looked to me like a pro level player. That was perfect, especially to see it that fast, and not just a pro but a strong pro.
My experience playing against stronger players is their stones feel very powerful, and nothing you try works. Also all their stones wind up on being in just the right place.
I was impressed with how well you played, and also kept your composure.
i also hope your opponent's "disappear"
who asked them how do you know if something in front of you is being used by AI or not being used by AI How many percentages are required to know if a player is playing normally or with AI? 80-90 or 70 percent
26:40 You're analyzing a complicated game with too few playouts. AI might give clearer suggestions if you give it more playouts.
I'm so bad at using Katrain. Could you tell me how I can set the playouts?
@@YungusengDojang If you click "analysis options" at the top, you can choose "deeper analysis" to make the AI do more playouts in the current position. By default the AI does 500 extra visits each time you use this, and you can do it multiple times if you like, or change the number of extra visits in the settings on the left side (General & Engine Settings -> Maximum visits in analysis) . You can also use "Deeper full game analysis" to do more playouts for the whole game, or a portion of the game.
Thank you for making these videos!
@@YungusengDojangKatago is very greedy in terms of computing resources. If you have a weak GPU or no GPU at all, it might be hard for your computer to reach decent amounts of visits.
There are surprisingly few resources on the subject, but it seems that around 500 visits are needed to reach top pro level. About 3000 probably suffice to reach superhuman level. Below 5, AI is still very good at the opening cause it relies on its "experience" developed by playing millions of games. However, after a few moves it reaches unknown territory and must rely on "reading power" and "intuition of shapes", just like us and with no reading power it gets quite bad it sharp situations. Visits give the AI its reading power.
Thank you AI user, drama is the best RUclips content 🤭🙏
In English we usually say "trade" for what you mean by "negotiate".
Negotiate means compromise usually in that context.