Shooting 100 Arrows EVERY DAY for 30 Days --- "The Improvement Experiment"

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  • Опубликовано: 11 апр 2020
  • Shooting 100 arrows a day for 30 days. The goal of this is to see how much I can improve. This is not about how good I can shoot but rather how much I can improve from day 1 to day 30.
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  • @shaiqureshi2079
    @shaiqureshi2079 4 года назад +774

    I'm a professional coach, and you basically hit every major point on the nail, notably strength, form, consistency and tune, really enjoyed this video, so many people post videos, 'you have to do this that and the other', the long and short of it is if you can repeat what you're doing and you're strong enough, you will improve, you'll crush your goals, don't chase scores, they'll come by themselves. So many times people want to get better and expect a coach to sprinkle magic dust on them if you don't shoot a lot, don't expect to become an amazing archer. Great work.

    • @bwfreel
      @bwfreel 4 года назад +19

      Great comment

    • @modelnutty6503
      @modelnutty6503 4 года назад +10

      yup, no substitute for LOTS of practice. one of the first things I learned was how to pick the bow up, never needed a wrist guard because of that, but shops will sure sell you one!

    • @davidkhrystenko
      @davidkhrystenko 4 года назад +4

      Sorry, this isn't related to your comment, but I shoot ~35lb fiberglass recurve bow (kind of like those Ben Pearson ones), no arrow shelf/ rest, just off the hand. Thing is, I can't afford nice arrows, so I use $1 Walmart carbon fiber arrows. At 20 yards, if I had perfect form and release, how much do you think the quality of the arrows could affect my accuracy? I'm trying to get better and go out nearly every day to shoot, so I want to know how much my equipment is affecting my performance.

    • @ericbaumgartner5742
      @ericbaumgartner5742 4 года назад +3

      From watching the arrow flight do you you think they are a bit too stiff ? They seem to take to long to straighten out which may cause inconsistent left to right impacts ?

    • @tjwright
      @tjwright 4 года назад +9

      @@davidkhrystenko I've never seen carbon fiber arrows for $1 at Walmart or anywhere else! $3 is dirt cheap for carbon fiber arrows. If you have any way to, I'd weigh your arrows and see how much they weigh. I was getting cheap arrows (some "Carbon Express" which were NOT carbon fiber!) for my kids' bow. Turns out they were fiberglass and weighed 650 grains!! That's a TON for an arrow on a low poundage bow. I don't know much about recurve shooting, but for his compound bow, it meant we adjusted the sights until we ran out of adjustment and he could only shoot 20 yards with those heavy arrows. He now has CF arrows that weigh half the weight and he can shoot 30 yards and we could still adjust the sights more. It's much better. That's just the tip of the iceberg with arrows, too. There's spine and a whole lot more to it.

  • @mysteryvishal
    @mysteryvishal 4 года назад +441

    Legit thought he was gonna say "day 1, hour 0" for a second

  • @TheProfessor936
    @TheProfessor936 3 года назад +42

    Here's a suggestion. It's almost like at the moment you release, you go from focusing on the target to trying to see the result of your shot. Totally forget about where the arrow hits the target. When you pull back and aim, let's call that "In the Zone". After you release, remain "In the Zone" for a split second or two longer. It kind of looks like your reaction the see the result of your shot might be tweaking your accuracy. It's like riding a motorcycle around a really long, wide curve. You keep your eyes fixed where you want your motorcycle to go, and not where you motorcycle is going. Your body will follow where your eyes lead you.

    • @bradbrown9722
      @bradbrown9722 3 года назад +2

      I agree with your thoughts. I’ll relate it to something as simple as shooting a free throw in basketball. It’s almost as if you “will” the ball into the hoop. Maybe that’s a bad analogy, but I totally get what you’re saying. I shoot pistols/ rifles often. It’s my sport ( now that I’m an older guy). Many times, ive seen the round leave the barrel. For a fraction of a second, I’m so focused I’ve seen the round leave the end of the barrel. Ive talked to only a few guys who have said the same thing. There’s a lot to be said about that type of focus isn’t there? Funny thing is, when I deliberately try to see it, I can’t. Only when that focus is immeasurable.

    • @RyanGoutbeck
      @RyanGoutbeck 2 года назад

      This is the same with Golf, if you turn your head to look at your dhot usually it will go bad

    • @xvaldez3284
      @xvaldez3284 2 года назад +2

      Sounds about right. I tried putting a sight on my recurve only to find it didn't exactly help with my accuracy so I went no sight and focused on the the target rather than actively aiming and I ended up getting better groupings. I think I tried focusing so hard on aiming that I'd neglected my form or would wait too long to release the arrow and would release it with wobbly arms.

  • @StitchesLovesRats
    @StitchesLovesRats 4 года назад +23

    The master has failed more times than the novice has tried.
    Your video is still inspiring and you STILL improved.

  • @philais
    @philais 4 года назад +341

    Great improvement, Excellent discipline.
    My goal is to get out of bed before 8 for the next 30 days....
    Wish me luck!

    • @hopefilledsinner3911
      @hopefilledsinner3911 4 года назад +4

      Your comment really made me giggle. Thankyou. ☺

    • @kennygthehalfjap
      @kennygthehalfjap 4 года назад +3

      Me too brother. Keep me posted!

    • @slogofan
      @slogofan 4 года назад +3

      Goodluck, same to me, Trying to go to sleep early.

    • @wezley2k5
      @wezley2k5 4 года назад +7

      Geht a kid and u ll not sleep past 7 for the first 3 years... i hope i dont sound too desperate 🥺

    • @a.i.a3949
      @a.i.a3949 4 года назад +4

      Jeez my goal is to get out of bed by 12 let alone 8.

  • @georgesakellaropoulos8162
    @georgesakellaropoulos8162 4 года назад +337

    Comes back from hunting. "Did you have any luck?" "Yep. I got 3 small pancakes."

  • @jamescaldwell5591
    @jamescaldwell5591 4 года назад +28

    Keep it up young man! Enjoy archery! Me : 100+ arrows a day for 300+ days a year for 35 years. Didn’t miss a day from 1985 to 2000. Missed days after I had kids.

  • @ZNA_Productions
    @ZNA_Productions 4 года назад +260

    This is a great idea! I'll be featuring you in my build review series I'm starting, and i think I'll take part in this challenge as well as challenge my subscribers to take part. Thanks for the vid man.

    • @spooderman4008
      @spooderman4008 4 года назад +8

      I've found the comment. Came from the build review episode.

    • @FreedomEagle75
      @FreedomEagle75 4 года назад +5

      Yooo Eli, been watching you for years man. Thanks for introducing me to Krammer Ammons! Just found one of my new favorite channels! 🏹🎯

  • @JavierChiappa
    @JavierChiappa 4 года назад +139

    It's funny how when the ego gets involved the score dropped. Archery it's a Zen thing, for sure.

    • @seanmtactical6069
      @seanmtactical6069 4 года назад +9

      Mastering any weapon is a zen thing. Sword, Bow, gun... The techniques differ but the philosophy is all the same.

    • @yourMom-ic4wr
      @yourMom-ic4wr 4 года назад +8

      @@seanmtactical6069 Mastering anything whatsoever is a zen thing lol

    • @JD-qo7hm
      @JD-qo7hm 4 года назад +1

      The tenets of Kyudo.

    • @boyertb
      @boyertb 3 года назад +1

      With all of the pancake talk in the comments, I read that as Eggo. 🤣

    • @paulanwr1
      @paulanwr1 3 года назад

      For sure it is... Be the arrow!

  • @shamusarms5476
    @shamusarms5476 4 года назад +96

    I’d like to see a the chart showing the improvement! What day on one axis and score on the other

    • @vinniesharkears
      @vinniesharkears 4 года назад +4

      Seriously. I'm so surprised he didn't show that.

    • @rob_over_9000
      @rob_over_9000 3 года назад +1

      I was hoping for the same... he even had it in a spreadsheet already...

  • @tcat3315
    @tcat3315 3 года назад +13

    Watching “the push” a few years ago was life changing. I went from a paper plate group at 30yds to a Copenhagen can at 30yds.

  • @silverrain530
    @silverrain530 4 года назад +7

    I'm a random recreational archer and I realized how I could definitely improve. I am going to try to maintain daily practice, as well. I don't normally find these type of videos motivational, but your journey is very relatable for me and I admire your open mind, analysis of your errors and zeal to correct them!

  • @TrehanCreekOutdoors
    @TrehanCreekOutdoors 4 года назад +35

    I've been shooting the SAME recurve bow for 52 years so I'd like to share a few thoughts, if I may. You need to realize the role that fletching plays in arrow accuracy is pretty critical. At the end you are shooting arrows that clearly should have been reflected about 1,000 shots ago! And you are hoping to shoot fantastic groups using arrows with worn out fletching? Not likely to happen! Rip the fletching off and reflect a batch of arrows, then shoot another 100 rounds for another week. I'm willing to bet you will hit your 350 at least once during that time with better fletching.
    But also be sure to check all your arrows for other defects too. An archer SHOULD check every single arrow before every shot. Things happen when you keep shooting the same arrows over and over. If you find any of your arrows have become twisted or bent, split anywhere, or have any other defects that could affect accuracy, discard them until you can repair or replace them.
    Check your bow every day before shooting too. Be sure the brace height hasn't become altered due to string stretch from so many shots. Be sure the string is in good shape and that essentially every part of your equipment is in top notch condition. Firing so many shots day after day wears down equipment and that alone will greatly reduce your consistency and accuracy.
    I believe you have enhanced your accuracy immensely but may be struggling with equipment that is not in the same good condition as it was 3,000 shots earlier! I don't blame the equipment, mind you, but it only makes sense to keep your equipment in tip top shape as you progress through so many shots in such a short time span.
    I trust you are shooting instinctively by focusing on the TARGET only and not trying to fix the gap between the arrow tip and the target. The principle that has long been shown to work BEST is for you to binge shoot like you have just done while focusing your eye ONLY on the target itself. Your body's muscle memory will "work out" the right actions needed to coordinate the draw, release, follow through, etc. so that you will hit the target once the muscles have shot enough repetitions to get a feel for where the arrow lands as your body makes slight adjustments. Don't try to over think it! Just relax, look dead at the target, and shoot. It is the same way you would shoot a basketball. You don't think about the shot mechanics. Your body just does the work for you. Same thing for throwing a football or baseball. It's pure hand-eye coordination that gives you success. The more you try to concentrate your mind on the task, the more you DEFEAT the efforts of your body to do the task from muscle memory.
    What to do from here? Just keep shooting a decent amount of arrows every single day from here on out. How many free throws does a basketball shooter need to shoot? They NEVER stop practicing. You will at some point reach a practical maximum for your ability. Just as you may never bowl a perfect game of 300, you may never shoot a perfect 500 archery score either. But you don't have to in order to be a great archer or a good bow hunter. You absolutely, beyond ANY doubt already can shoot well enough to consistently kill deer, turkey, or other game animals. Every shot doesn't have to be a perfect bulls eye. Any shot in that pie plate is capable of killing a deer and the vast majority of your shots easily hit the pie plate.
    I really enjoyed your video and wish you the best success in all your archery pursuits. You have also inspired me. I am going to do my own 30 day shooting test to see how much I can improve. I'm not sure I am going to be brave enough to post all of them on my channel however! We will see how it goes first. HA!

    • @depressedfox6218
      @depressedfox6218 4 года назад +9

      I love how you took the time to write such a long comment. I've only started archery a few months ago and your comment has some pretty helpful tips & things to look out for when I'm shooting. Thanks for sharing!

    • @1988camarokid
      @1988camarokid 4 года назад

      Lol I agree with everything you said except for the deer part when it comes to Archery and deer whoooooooo you got alot I mean alot of work there I've been hunting game for about 32 years started bow hunting about 12 years ago because I started out with a 30/30 which is probably the best bush rifle and has killed more deer than any other then I got into long distance shooting with a 300 Ruger M77 Mark 2 loved that rifle and some crack head stole it and my 22 sportsman ahhhh anyways hunting had done got boring but then I picked up a bow and the first 2 years lol I had no deer I was like WTF so then I started learning how they think and how they move and act best time for killing a wall hanger besides night time lol is full rut he's crazy during this time is the best time to play with scent's doe estrus and mock scrapes stuff like that but don't just go to throwing scent's out there because instead of bringing them in you can also run every deer in 10 miles out of there my little cousin had 4 mock scrapes in 1 20 acre field lol he didn't kill any buck that year because the deer knew that there wasn't 4 mature dominant buck in that area cause they live there so they know maybe 1 mock scrapes is all he should've used watch your weather for wind a buck that's a wall hanger will circle you about 5 times within 1/2 of a mile and turkey lol I'm not gonna get started on them bastards .

    • @numerolx
      @numerolx 3 года назад

      nice !!

    • @dedperdedtld
      @dedperdedtld 3 года назад +1

      Thank you very much for your comment. I don't even own a bow but it was great to come across such a thorough coverage of the topic from a person with such a long track of experience behind them. Thank you for sharing and keep pursuing your goal!

  • @nickchristian1590
    @nickchristian1590 4 года назад +24

    My mans. Damn you're candid, I love it. I appreciate it so much. You deserve every sub you have an so many more. You're editing is fantastic and the music is always choice. Keep it up!

  • @connerlamphier8550
    @connerlamphier8550 4 года назад +2

    I watch this video and just think about how amazing the human body is. In just 30 days of actual archery training your body was able to adapt and conform and improve so much! Really cool video man and inspirational also.

  • @jasonmerryman4452
    @jasonmerryman4452 3 года назад +76

    Rest of the world: Uses actual numeric values to measure.
    US: it’s about the size of a milk cap, a small pancake, and a paper plate.

    • @rob_over_9000
      @rob_over_9000 3 года назад +2

      He did give dimensions as well...

    • @simpletruth9977
      @simpletruth9977 3 года назад +8

      @@rob_over_9000 Sounds like the rest of the world have a problem with paying attention. 😂🇺🇸

    • @buddyadams4781
      @buddyadams4781 3 года назад

      You're right, the entire US uses that method. Except me, I us a FITA 40cm target at 18 meters.

    • @marshallcierovola376
      @marshallcierovola376 3 года назад

      Pretty sure it's called the dewy decimal system. But idk, I went to public school.

  • @feralgrandad4429
    @feralgrandad4429 4 года назад +11

    Well, I now know what I'm going to be doing during this lockdown. Really great video. I love how you've worn down a path to and from your target.

  • @huntingmissouri5420
    @huntingmissouri5420 4 года назад +273

    One thing i see is your target, you need to replace your 1 inch bullseye when it not very visible, you are focusing on the 4 inch, you need to be locked on the 1 inch every shot, aim small miss small, good video tho, late bud!

    • @urgamecshk
      @urgamecshk 4 года назад +12

      The centre of 1" is still the center of 4" ;)

    • @huntingmissouri5420
      @huntingmissouri5420 4 года назад +27

      @@urgamecshk yes but you are not focusing on the 1 inch you are see just seeing the 4 inch therefore you will can't really see the bullseye of 1inch , try it sometime. Aim small miss small, if you are aiming at 4 you have a bigger target to hit and you can miss bigger!

    • @davidsolis3540
      @davidsolis3540 4 года назад +9

      So true, aim small miss small . An LED light at the center that you can aim at, and rings you can score with but can’t see. We shoot at night at LED finger lights (amazon them they are cheep and bright and last) and use lighted knocks. The target is 80yards and at night is a blast to shoot at. The small pin point light makes us aim small and achieve tighter groups than a standard ringed target

    • @timmcdonald9856
      @timmcdonald9856 4 года назад +4

      Exactly right, applies equally across all marksmanship types, aim small miss small, they taught us that in '60s Boy Scout marksmanship classes.

    • @wallacev2267
      @wallacev2267 4 года назад +3

      If you’re going to shoot small shoot for a dime or match stick. He’s already shooting better than most people. 40 years experience

  • @dennisvolpe7805
    @dennisvolpe7805 4 года назад

    I randomly came across your video on making a bow with polar and drywall tape. Started watching more and more. You have renewed my desire and drive for archery. Thank you.

  • @andywatson4805
    @andywatson4805 4 года назад

    Hey Kramer
    I'm in southern Spain and started making bows about 4 months ago. It's been a steep learning curve with a share of exploding bows tillering and stringing. With the help of your videos (and Mick Grewcock's RUclips channel too) I have stuck with it and today!!! For the very first time built a bow (european Oak belly and bamboo back 60" and approx 40lb @28") that, after tillering I almost knew it would string and have a good brace height. It did. No arrow rest no knocks, I've gone old school (at 60 years old I should do). It shoots sweet Kramer, no hand shock and silent. Thank you for your inspiration and help. Andy (Alicante)

  • @cherno2232
    @cherno2232 4 года назад +66

    Dude, you inspired me to do the same. During this whole corona thing everything is closes becouse of corona, even my school (kinda fun). I'v just build my own archery range in my backyard of about 20 yards so this is what I'ma do today. First, build a proper target. Then, wait for my new bowstrings to arrive tomorrow (i'll soon be able to make my own using your string jig design but for now i'll have to do with orders strings). Then, shoot every day 100 arrows. Thanks for inspiring me!
    Edit: I've got about the same anchor as you

    • @albinoblacksheep7826
      @albinoblacksheep7826 4 года назад

      Good luck

    • @cherno2232
      @cherno2232 4 года назад

      @@albinoblacksheep7826 thx

    • @Elric509
      @Elric509 4 года назад

      Build jörg's bow magazine, it'll be good for muscle memory

    • @cherno2232
      @cherno2232 4 года назад +1

      @@Elric509 probaly, but it's also about the relead

    • @Elric509
      @Elric509 4 года назад

      @@cherno2232 of course, whatever you want to improve is valid, personally for me it's more about shooting than performing a specific set of movements, plus it's fun to make stuff that works

  • @joshs5313
    @joshs5313 4 года назад +3

    Dude. I'm impressed.
    I think that many of us should do this. Keep score and track progress.
    What you accomplished is amazing.
    You moved your group in 30 days what many of us have been working years to do.
    But you better not F'ing stop. I want to see that 350 video!
    We and your viewers and your fans want to see you succeed!
    Keep it up.

  • @jonjohnston5333
    @jonjohnston5333 4 года назад +1

    I came across your channel today and this was my exact same thoughts about making bows. You end up spending all your time making them and not enough time shooting them. I was making bows out of pvc but never tried my hand at a wood bow, well now I am much more into woodworking so I think its time. Thanks for the great content!

  • @hamiltoncollins4134
    @hamiltoncollins4134 3 года назад +1

    Thoroughly enjoyed the progression and the honesty at the finish line. Love the enthusiasm and notable improvement. I'm inspired.

  • @wayfaringstranger3617
    @wayfaringstranger3617 3 года назад +6

    This actually inspired me to start shooting my bow a lot more.

  • @garysmith3173
    @garysmith3173 4 года назад +34

    Brilliant. Due to the lockdown I’ve attempted 100 per day at 30 yards. Nine days to go. This really helps. Well done Kramer.

    • @Rhino-ep6of
      @Rhino-ep6of 4 года назад +1

      How'd you do?

    • @wooldog8811
      @wooldog8811 4 года назад +1

      That is what I was wondering

    • @garysmith3173
      @garysmith3173 4 года назад +2

      Amazing improvement thank you both. Biggest improvement was in confidence. Consistency improved and I now approach archery (longbow) with less nerves. An invaluable exercise. Take care my friends from the uk.

  • @grejen711
    @grejen711 Год назад

    Thank you for taking us along. I'm just starting out in both archery and bow and arrow making. Thinking I need to by some good consistent equipment to work on the shooting.

  • @1959jimbob
    @1959jimbob 4 года назад

    Thank you for doing this video. This act in and of itself goes to show your level of dedication. Your willingness to put it all out there for the world to see speaks volumes. You did a super great job on nailing all pertinent points and any body watching it should be able to learn much from it.

  • @blakebuker2339
    @blakebuker2339 4 года назад +4

    Love your vids making my first homemade bow using your vids to help

  • @terrymattson3587
    @terrymattson3587 3 года назад +6

    Thank you for being true and real. I’ve struggled all my life with archery. I love bow hunting, better hunter then archer. I will do this myself. I think I have attention disorders, the more I think on my form the worse I get. Some days I do great. Most is inconsistent. Love the video.

  • @lordllewellynofdarkdelight2613
    @lordllewellynofdarkdelight2613 3 года назад

    The editing and music choice and your delivery were very enjoyable to watch. I think this is the first RUclips video I casually clicked on then could not stop watching. Great work and great information. Thank you!

  • @OregonGreene
    @OregonGreene 3 года назад

    Great job. Love the honesty and perseverance! Traditional archery is all about enjoyment and watching the arrow fly. Thanks for reminding me of that!

  • @grayem76
    @grayem76 4 года назад +18

    I hope you keep doing this your fingers arms eyes are all getting muscle memory

    • @mattivirta
      @mattivirta 4 года назад

      5000 year has all traineer know, minimum have 100 000 time do same then you have basic muscular memory this work, but if want best pro muscular memory practice you need do same 300 000time perfects. 100 arrow/day and 1000 day need work then you have good muscular memory, minimum have 100 000 time do same. but need do perfect right alltime.if do ewerytime different not come good muscular memory. come only shit. all today good sport trainee know thats, same methor than japanese uses 5000 before. thats working true.

    • @yourMom-ic4wr
      @yourMom-ic4wr 4 года назад

      @@mattivirta where are you from?

  • @christiandehlinger3731
    @christiandehlinger3731 4 года назад +3

    Great video. I noticed, in a slow mo that had your release, just before the release, you drop your hand forward a bit. One of the things I was very interested in was how did your fingers hold up?

  • @jdwxly
    @jdwxly 4 года назад

    Nicely done! I just bought a bag target so I can work on my shot cycle in the garage during this lock down. What I love about archery is that there is enough success to keep you coming back and enough failure to keep you humble.

  • @forexmiltonjones
    @forexmiltonjones 4 года назад

    Great video. Much effort has been put into it by you. It's appreciated. The progress you made was "real-world" and encouraging. So, thanks

  • @bebo7002
    @bebo7002 4 года назад +58

    8:56 Those arrows are way too stiff for that bow. Be sure to spine arrows correctly. Your accuracy will improve greatly.

    • @dominic6634
      @dominic6634 4 года назад +3

      No they are good.

    • @aidanschmidt1896
      @aidanschmidt1896 3 года назад +1

      @@dominic6634 no they’re not do you see the way they’re fish tailing they’re too much spine.

    • @adryan3669
      @adryan3669 3 года назад

      Agree, over spined arrows

    • @BTproductions13
      @BTproductions13 3 года назад

      yeah I noticed that throughout the entirety of the video they were immediately flying stiff. Depending on what spine those are, you might wanna try and get a higher spine

  • @iCantPickaNamej
    @iCantPickaNamej 4 года назад +7

    You've motivated me, sir. I just got into archery maybe about December 2019 and I've had some ups and downs. I very much enjoy it so if you don't mind I'd like to make a similar video for my channel. I don't think I can do 100 shots a day lol but maybe 50 to 75 over a month and see where it takes me.

    • @iCantPickaNamej
      @iCantPickaNamej 3 года назад +1

      @willl 88 yeah I totally messed up. I knew better than to start heavy but the Marine in me over road logic and I went with a 50 pounder instead of waiting for the lighter weights to become available for purchase again. I've become used to the weight. I actually shoot 60 now. I don't think I'll go higher then that. I believe I have good form. However, my issue as of late is I just release the arrow without waiting to aim. Feels like target panic. I tell myself to wait and aim in and when I do hold back the urge to let go I get great shots at about 40 yards. I need to learn to fight the urge to release prematurely. (Lol.... prematurely.)

  • @dointh4198
    @dointh4198 3 года назад

    Really nice narrative with great pictures! Even the slight failure was very enjoying to watch. At the end there were 30 days in the woods, breathig fresh air and the dedication to the task. And it 's a great advertizing for your business, wich brings that same opportunity for the customer. Well done!

  • @5656JOEBWAN
    @5656JOEBWAN 2 года назад

    Keeping it honest and positive throughout......inspiring!

  • @philipsutton2316
    @philipsutton2316 4 года назад +79

    You arrows are coming out way nock right - which means they are too stiff for the bow!

    • @silverback802
      @silverback802 4 года назад +9

      Exactly correct Philip Sutton

    • @jcarry5214
      @jcarry5214 4 года назад +10

      That's exactly what I thought. I can't ID nock right but they have no harmonizing wiggle. He'd probably be doing better with something skinnier. They're flying like spears not arrows. They look like they're meant for 60 lb bows not 40.

    • @ScottBub
      @ScottBub 3 года назад +2

      What about his fingers though? I thought that you are supposed to put your fingers around the arrow not just under it. Index above and middle below. Is that not the case or just a preference thing?

    • @kylestevens25
      @kylestevens25 3 года назад +3

      Scott Bub you're referring to "split finger" vs "3 under". Either is fine, can depend on what shooting or aiming style you use.

  • @incautious1
    @incautious1 4 года назад +2

    I was sad that you didn't reach your goal at the end yet satisfied for you. Imagine what the grouping will look like in another 30 :)

    • @evanwindom3265
      @evanwindom3265 4 года назад

      Yes --- this. It's not about perfection -- it's about progress. I'm new to archery, and am not happy with my accuracy either. Some days are better than others. But I'm a better shot today than three weeks ago. It's good to see some more experienced archers providing more encouragement than judgment.

  • @jayneal8154
    @jayneal8154 2 года назад +1

    The best thing is that you show a huge improvement! Great work and great video! Keep up the good work!

  • @elhombre73
    @elhombre73 4 года назад

    Been watching for a while but first time i'm compelled to post to say it really is a pleasure watching you shoot and strive for bettering yourself. Your no nonsense analytical look at yourself and what you can do and how you may be able to get better and your honesty on the bad days where you feel you're going backward is really inspiring and a refreshing video to watch. They say practice makes perfect. Keep shooting regularly and you're going to get better. Always enjoy your videos mate and one day a guy (me) on the other side of the world down in Australia will get around to starting his journey into archery, making a bow of his own .and it will be all thanks to your sharing your knowledge and interest in this sport/hobby. And for that I say thanks man and keep them videos coming.
    cheers,
    Shane

  • @Mixwell1983
    @Mixwell1983 4 года назад +21

    This seems like me. I have only been shooting for a month, well only into archery in general for a month.
    When I get a decent group I turn around and shoot all over the place right after.

    • @JRNNRJJRN
      @JRNNRJJRN 4 года назад

      Dude this is me too. After 2 weeks of beginning archery at home, i hit all my 6 arrows in gold (only 7 yards from target since im in my backyard and still a noobie). After that it went all over

    • @robertschneider1977
      @robertschneider1977 4 года назад +3

      Im in the same boat with yall learning a traditional bow. Using my quarantine time to learn.

    • @obant
      @obant 4 года назад

      What bows are you all starting with? Ive veiwed Krammer's recommendation starter bow, but still looking around just in case.

    • @JRNNRJJRN
      @JRNNRJJRN 4 года назад +2

      @@obant I'm using a Titan 66inch recurve takedown I got from Hi-tech archery near fullerton in California. I can't seem to find it on other websites. Samick sage is obviously the most popular one. But if archery is something you are really interested it, buy a bow you like. I like my bow, but it's not my first pick. I wasn't able to go into a store due to quarantine so I just went with this for now.

    • @obant
      @obant 4 года назад

      @@JRNNRJJRN Oh nice, Im actually really close to there. I'll check it out when this pandemic thing blows over.

  • @davidjensen2411
    @davidjensen2411 4 года назад +3

    I find I'm more consistent when my string hand remains on my head, after the release...
    I tried shooting 15 days straight, but noticed I was heading towards an Overuse Injury.

    • @ToraJutsu01
      @ToraJutsu01 4 года назад

      Treat it like the gym, reduce overall volume and add rest days

  • @noelienoelie8425
    @noelienoelie8425 4 года назад

    Thanks brother, only joined the channel a few weeks back. Love your energy.
    Thanks to you I've been kept sane during these hard times stuck at home 24/7.
    I've made a bow 😁 well almost. It's a 65in flat bow mad from an ash 3/4.
    Just to file the notches today and look for something I can use for bow string.
    When it's finished I'd love to send you a picture.
    All hand carved with a butter knife and that's it. No tools no measurements no nothing. 😅 It's all I had at home.

  • @TheSteveoTube
    @TheSteveoTube 3 года назад

    Love your honesty and that you were challenging yourself, publicly even.. I caught your channel by watching you show us how to build a bow. That kind of thing piques my interest and is right up my alley. I'm glad the RUclips algorithms suggested this video. I just subscribed :-)

  • @b-d3vil16
    @b-d3vil16 3 года назад +4

    You said “wooden bow(s)”
    If using multiple bows how are you measuring consistency?

  • @ironfae
    @ironfae 3 года назад +4

    “How do you get to Carnegie Hall......?”
    Keep shooting. 😂

  • @enduro_music_frik4358
    @enduro_music_frik4358 Год назад

    Great experiment... I've only been practicing archery for two months and I'm also experimenting with different setups and techniques, but only the number of shots gives results. Thanks for this video…I enjoyed watching it

  • @emilvash7604
    @emilvash7604 2 года назад

    Thank You for sharing this experiense, it's amazing and motivative! Good luck!

  • @Jesus_sosa123
    @Jesus_sosa123 4 года назад +6

    I was waiting for him to say “ day one hour zero “

  • @jeffkelly2793
    @jeffkelly2793 4 года назад +5

    Hi mate, I see something you were doing that was very inconsistant. I will try to explain.... its about string torque... grab your string between your fingers and twist it, then release.... what happens? Yep it will twist back to its original position. Now imagine that under stress..... sideways torque will produce stray arrows consistantly....
    Personally, I place my arrow on the rest, pull arrow back to string, and anchor. Watch avatar or a video on horseback archery... paying close attention to their loading arrow.
    Hope this helps mate. Happy archery.

    • @chrispolasky
      @chrispolasky 4 года назад +1

      I've been having the stray arrow problem and now I know why. I thought it was a matter of concentration, but I've been loading my arrows with the head out to my left (90 degrees) then turning the arrow onto the rest which is twisting the string at least a quarter turn. Now I just have to wait until the sun comes up to try out your fix. Thanks!

    • @jeffkelly2793
      @jeffkelly2793 4 года назад

      @@chrispolasky Glad I could help David. Cheers m8.... Let me know how it goes....

    • @chrispolasky
      @chrispolasky 4 года назад

      @@jeffkelly2793 Big difference! My grouping was noticeably tighter even though it is really windy today. Thanks!

    • @jeffkelly2793
      @jeffkelly2793 4 года назад

      @@chrispolasky Awesome.

  • @juca54321
    @juca54321 4 года назад

    thank you for not lieing in the video, being honest about it, congrats man, liked and subscribed for video quality, entertainment and being honest with results!!!

  • @abrams905able
    @abrams905able 4 года назад

    I started watching your videos three weeks ago and fell in love with it all. I like this video a lot because you talk about your failures. Even though you had a goal and you didn't reach it, you still learned a lot and didn't discredit all your work. I see this when your making a bow as well. I am going to try and make a working bow, I expect it is going to take 3 or 4 before I get one that works.

  • @scarlettardis2018
    @scarlettardis2018 4 года назад +3

    Hey mate, I used a coke bottle cap from about the same distance when I was shooting at my local range when I had a compound bow. I discovered that I was better off aiming while the bow was down, then looking down as I drew but raising my aim and bow as I drew and then releasing within a second or two of full draw. I lifted and drew the bow calmly, but aimed and shot quickly. It improved my accuracy 100 fold in about 3 weeks.
    I converted this to Archery from a video of a Harlem Globetrotter instructing a reporter on how he always swished a shot and how the brain aims better from some type of short term memory glancing technique. Nice grouping dude.

    • @dodo19923
      @dodo19923 4 года назад +1

      For me, i've found if i don't overthink about where i'm shooting too much, and let my brain naturally aim for me i get much better consistency with every half dozen arrows. At first i was focusing so much on the little circle on my target i wasn't paying attention to other things like my anchor. Little tip for people who want to be more consistent shooting arrows and this can be done with the bow unstrung.
      Take your bow, and 1 arrow...
      practice putting the arrow on the shelf/rest, then "drawing" to your cheek so that you look down the arrow to the point.
      then mentally take your shot.
      Arrow off of rest/shelf.
      Put the arrow on the rest/shelf.
      Draw to where you see down the shaft of the arrow.
      Mentally take the shot.
      Keep doing this over and over again without firing one single arrow into a target. This teaches your body and mind the muscle memory needed to be consistent. Make sure the nock is in the same place each time, and you're looking straight down the arrow to the point. Once you've mastered this to a degree.... the actual shooting should come easier as you naturally do this. To take it a step further, do this... while you're looking down the arrow shaft, point the tip at something you would maybe shoot, a vase, a ball on the floor, the dog... practice lining up your shots without firing first, then when you do come to loosing arrows the mental work is pretty much done and you can focus on the strength side of archery.

  • @NUSensei
    @NUSensei 4 года назад +79

    Huh, I've been doing 100 every day too. With a different bow each time.

    • @Jiml3ob
      @Jiml3ob 3 года назад +5

      Hi, you need to do video on that bro.

    • @Jiml3ob
      @Jiml3ob 3 года назад +4

      And of course I'm subbed to you, you were the first RUclipsr I watched when I first got into archery 🏹

    • @j_stach
      @j_stach 3 года назад +2

      That's a lot of bows

  • @russalves9635
    @russalves9635 4 года назад

    Great video! I like your style. Keep up the good work. Thank you.

  • @mzm1011
    @mzm1011 4 года назад

    Great video...one of the best I've seen. Your goal was to improve...and you reached that goal!!!

  • @user-dm8zp9ru8h
    @user-dm8zp9ru8h 4 года назад +4

    Well, you know, as they said, practicing alone only reinforce mistake, unless you can address your mistake yourself.

    • @SVT40
      @SVT40 4 года назад

      I agree!

    • @brycebedford1895
      @brycebedford1895 4 года назад

      I also agree! Better to shoot 10 Perfect shots, than 100 bad ones.

  • @JavierChiappa
    @JavierChiappa 4 года назад +4

    3 arrows is so meditative. I carry them on the shooting hand, just like uncle Lars :P

  • @stevecrader3479
    @stevecrader3479 3 года назад

    Well done! Not going to bother with archery "form/equipment" comments as you've no doubt got PLENTY of those below. I want to congratulate you on evaluating yourself, making a commitment to improve and having the conviction to stick with it. You're obviously a far better archer and you continued commitment will just lead to greater enjoyment as a shooter. I hope so many take this to heart, and practice. To shoot better, you have to shoot, not just talk about it or watch videos of others shooting. Very real journey and I thank you for sharing it

  • @mashashmatova1056
    @mashashmatova1056 4 года назад

    As usual, high-quality video pleasant to watch. And the improvement is great! Imagine what happens after 12 months of practice. Love your videos - keep making 'em! Thank you

  • @jakebarney8243
    @jakebarney8243 4 года назад +3

    It looks like you may be dropping your arm too quickly on your follow through. Release, and hold the bow in the same position and watch it all the way to the target. Then let your arm drop.

  • @NoMomYoureWrong
    @NoMomYoureWrong 4 года назад +4

    It’s all about the anchor man. I’ve been shooting for about a year and I won a 3D shoot before I had surgery. I probably have the worst “form,” ever. I cant the bow, I shoot split finger, I shoot instinctive, but I shot 28/30 and I won the 39 yard shoot off cause everything was so consistent.

    • @sbvera13
      @sbvera13 4 года назад +1

      A master of the wrong form is still master of a form :)

  • @shinkitai
    @shinkitai 4 года назад

    Bought my first bow a week ago, shooting in my garden in Scotland 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿. I’m enjoying a lot of videos about archery and learning loads. I enjoyed your vid, Shooting 15m, max size of garden so can’t progress to longer distances. Cheers 🍻😎

  • @cubotpowerphip834
    @cubotpowerphip834 4 года назад

    I shoot a catapult/slingshot competitively so I have spent alot of time practicing and over the years I have noticed you get to a point where you start over analysing your shots and your groups start to deteriorate. I swap my frame for a day or so then go back to my preferred catapult and the break somehow resets me and my shooting starts to improve again.
    Shooting a catapult is very similar to shooting a bow and your videos have got me thinking I may try archery. Thanks for taking the time 👍

  • @abrahamd2k
    @abrahamd2k 2 года назад +4

    I feel you're overdoing technical aspects of shooting by tallying numbers and having concerns of grouping. Just find your form and get your muscle memory and instincts to start developing.
    As for targets, go try just using a spot the size of a baseball or softball and no outer rings. That will help you focus on one thing, that is hitting that spot. Good luck.

  • @macsorfi5815
    @macsorfi5815 4 года назад +5

    mmmmm.... with this training I think the arrows are not the “350” perfect fit for your bow

  • @ChrisBrown-bw6vq
    @ChrisBrown-bw6vq 3 года назад

    My daughter walked in and asked what I was watching.. I just used your video to back up what I have always told her. Practice, practice, practice to get better. Great video!

  • @whitetailcartel80
    @whitetailcartel80 3 года назад

    Loved it! Bare shaft tuning helped me as much as anything...but still constantly adjusting!

  • @TenToAceStudios
    @TenToAceStudios 4 года назад +3

    You should try to set up a few targets at different distances and shoot at them randomly because if you shoot only at one target you start relying on your first shot as a sighting shot to determine your aim instead of getting your aim instinctive.

  • @hopefilledsinner3911
    @hopefilledsinner3911 4 года назад +8

    I'm astounded by anyone whom can accurately shoot a stick bow. It aint easy. I prefer a bow with training wheels and pins.

    • @Hedgehog1039
      @Hedgehog1039 4 года назад +1

      I've never actually shot anything but primitive bows; they just look and feel better to me, modern stuff just doesn't appeal at all (aesthetically and challenge-wise).

    • @hopefilledsinner3911
      @hopefilledsinner3911 4 года назад

      @@Hedgehog1039 Yes I understand. The challenge is exactly the same. Small groups being maintained at a greater distance. For me the appeal of a bow with training wheels was for hunting with greater speed and accuracy over short (No more than 30 meters for me) distances. Only quick clean kills should be accepted by individual hunters. I too love stick bows but I personally would not care to hunt with one over 15 meter range. And I've never hunted with one.

    • @duncle1253
      @duncle1253 4 года назад

      @@hopefilledsinner3911 get yourself an English war bow and kill moose from as fsr away as you like

    • @hopefilledsinner3911
      @hopefilledsinner3911 4 года назад +1

      @@duncle1253 you get yourself an English warbow and try to shoot a basketball sized target everytime from 40 yards that represents your moose heart and lung quick kill zone and get back to me.

    • @duncle1253
      @duncle1253 4 года назад

      @@hopefilledsinner3911 see there's yer problem you need 150 good men to rain death from above kilking all in the surrounding area... Dont mayter about kill shots with 10 arrows in you! Im joking btw ive never hunted and im ignorant in the subject butt i do know that long bows were just for firing at clumps of men in the distance not a precise target

  • @brocbradley2313
    @brocbradley2313 3 года назад

    I liked this video...a lot. I usually won't watch videos that are longer than 8 minutes, but I found this well edited and interesting. It was also an educational video about practice and technique. Nicely done.

  • @adambakas13
    @adambakas13 2 года назад +1

    It's really encouraging to see you improve your shooting day after day!

  • @cherno2232
    @cherno2232 4 года назад +13

    It's as they say:
    100 arrows a day keeps the archery coach away

    • @josephhaddad4842
      @josephhaddad4842 4 года назад

      The Blue Bowman
      It keeps Robin Hood away

    • @cherno2232
      @cherno2232 4 года назад +1

      @@josephhaddad4842 if you shoot all 100 in one go, your gonne get ALLOT of robbin hoods

    • @cherno2232
      @cherno2232 4 года назад

      @@josephhaddad4842 also, don't bother. Robin Hood can't be kept away. He wil always find a way to get you ....

    • @jake4194
      @jake4194 3 года назад

      Nice, dont make my mistake and make sure you start back up with a low poundage bow like 30-35# and work your way up

    • @cherno2232
      @cherno2232 3 года назад

      @@jake4194 laughs in #60

  • @mrbigbrew
    @mrbigbrew 4 года назад +4

    Arrow tuning my boi, bare shaft tuning . Looks like in the slow mo those arrows are not tuned to the bow

    • @lloutdoors9516
      @lloutdoors9516 4 года назад

      Agreed. Arrows look too weak. Bare shaft tune and get a little closer. But not until your form is set and consistent.

  • @Averyravynwood
    @Averyravynwood 4 года назад +1

    Great video, wonderful documentation of your progress. Your progression is pretty inspiring. Prior to the pandemic shutting everything down, I was hired by a local Renaissance Festival to portray Robin Hood, and for the last couple months I've been working with a local youth coach on form, so to see you improve so much is such a short timeframe is awesome. Keep up the fantastic work.

  • @MultiCreasey
    @MultiCreasey 4 года назад

    Brilliant and honest video. Really enjoyed it, thank you for taking the time to make and share.

  • @jwmorrison79
    @jwmorrison79 4 года назад

    Great video! The slow-mo arrow shots are fantastic!

  • @TheDukeBoxer
    @TheDukeBoxer 2 месяца назад

    Thanks Kramer. Very inspirational. I'll give this a shot myself. My consistency is trash with my current set up. Appreciate your content as always.

  • @yepyep27
    @yepyep27 4 года назад +2

    Great job man! That’s some dedication. I greatly respect that.

  • @blakelothert5854
    @blakelothert5854 4 года назад +1

    I’m intrigued to see how well you would improve using arrows built for you and your bow. Balanced right, correct spine, correct helical, etc. With consistent arrow flight, your bow starts doing most of the work for you. I would really like to see how much you improve in a month on those arrows once you send them downrange!

  • @bradbrown9722
    @bradbrown9722 3 года назад

    I really enjoyed this video! Thanks for your time in producing the progress. I cut my teeth on re curve bows. I never took it as seriously as I should’ve, but now I think I’m gonna take it up a step and give it another try. You sir, have inspired me

  • @mrfahrenheit3867
    @mrfahrenheit3867 4 года назад +1

    Having been an archery for over 50 years, I recommend a warm-up routine to ready the body and prepare the mind, I've found this simple few minutes spent helps make that first and last shot consistent. Keep the bow in hand for life, you'll not regret it.

  • @timdumler5628
    @timdumler5628 4 года назад +1

    subscribed on this vid, and gave your commercials their full run. i've seen a few of your bow builds w the gf, but this was the best, most inspiring vid. thumbs way up!

  • @williamneal7210
    @williamneal7210 4 года назад

    Nice video Archerer, really enjoyed it, really cool and nothing to be ashamed of here, at all.

  • @seiko310
    @seiko310 4 года назад

    I had a friend who built bows for years. He only had one eye but could shoot stupid good. He told me his secret. Build a box around your target, put a candle in it. Practice every night shooting at the flame. It will teach you the tunnel vision focus moment that puts it on a nickel every time. He also did not aim and then draw, he drew aimed and shot in under three seconds every time.
    Good luck and keep at it! Love your builds and non pretensive way. Keep it up.

  • @holotropik
    @holotropik 4 года назад

    Inspirational!! Thanks for sharing your journey 👍😎

  • @richardtous1085
    @richardtous1085 4 года назад

    Great video I didn't plan to get hooked for so long on yt. Couldn't stop watching ;)

  • @caseyj8210
    @caseyj8210 3 года назад

    Dude, Kramer, I loved your video. Man, great job and great attitude!

  • @ryanbigler8596
    @ryanbigler8596 4 года назад

    Dude! You should be extremely pleased with your results. The improvement between day 1 and day 30 is awesome!!! Love all your videos and keep up the great content!

  • @pot_bunny3926
    @pot_bunny3926 2 года назад

    insane improvment! congrats! the will to get better is real

  • @johnpeters2788
    @johnpeters2788 4 года назад

    Thanks for the video. Some things never change I guess. You proved again the old truth. Practice makes perfect. Good job and congrats on your groups! I need to get my bow out and start practicing again. God bless.

  • @soberd1204
    @soberd1204 4 года назад

    Great video and editing, just started to shoot a bow 2 days ago, your beginner video help all of us relax with our aim and just getting the form down and I've got to say all if us are hitting the target today! Thanks for the inspiration, I think we will try to shoot daily for 30 days just based on this video!

  • @8ballali
    @8ballali 4 года назад

    Doubled your original score. Well done fella.
    Enjoyed the video.

  • @nolanhowe6002
    @nolanhowe6002 3 года назад +2

    Just got a recurve bow a month ago, haven't improved mush since I first started shooting, but this video has been inspiring, and I want to attempt something like this before next summer, so wish me luck please!

  • @oldgold5848
    @oldgold5848 4 года назад

    Great stuff Kramer. Under lockdown in England, but luckily I have a big garden!