@@ТакидаМайорчик only problem I have really had is with the Bluetooth connection for the chair's speakers. Every couple of months I have to reset the chiar power to get it to function. That's about it. Nothing else.
I've had my chair for 6 days. When I switch between Gentle, Soothing, and Vigorous (Force) I notice no differences. Do you notice any differences when you switch between the settings? I've tried most of the auto programs with the same results.
@@MinhvuLy RT8900 Supreme Hybrid. Was told by another tuber that Force represents the number of times a Force setting reaches level 5 3d. Example Refresh auto program, 10min on gentle reaches a level 5 22 times, where vigorous reaches it 30, on my chair. Bought in the US, there may be some software enhancements on yours verses the US sold models. What do you feel when you change Force settings? I feel nothing. Even when I run the complete program with different Force settings, I can't tell a difference. Thanks for the quick reply
@@MinhvuLy In my world and yours that's true but, in Daiwa's world its not. I fully expected Gentle to be 3d turned off, Soothing, varying from 0-3, and Vigorous from 0-5. That would make sense when using the FORCE Label.
Daiwa 4d Supreme Hybrid Daiwa's FORCE Option they display, but don't say much about in their manual FORCE: an influence (as a push or pull) that tends to produce a change in the speed or direction of motion of something By the above definition I fully expected Gentle to be 3d turned off, Soothing, varying from 0-3, and Vigorous from 0-5. That would make sense. REALITY: My interpretation of Daiwa's definition of FORCE is the number of times a 3d level 5 intensity occurs from start to finish of an auto program. EXAMPLE: Using the "Refresh" Auto Program for 10 minutes, aided by self produced videos, Gentle Force, Level 5 occurred 22 times. On Vigorous, level 5 occurred around 30 times. BOTTOM LINE:: There will NOT be a noticeable difference from a FORCE setting of Gentle, Soothing, or Vigorous. That is basically what Daiwa's response was to me when I questioned and sent them videos of all the modes under the same conditions. I thought the chair wasn't working correctly. Healthy back, no issues, this is a GREAT chair. From a standing position, if you are able to bend backwards between 30 and 45 degrees without pain or discomfort, most likely you will be good with this chair, otherwise, don't buy the chair. Try a Luraco I7 or I7 Plus (I Own). NOT the Luraco I9 (I've tried), similar bending/arching issues. My wife has lower back issues -- degenerative disc. We made the mistake of assuming FORCE was a 3d intensity level. In that mind set we thought she would be able to use the chair on the Gentle setting and I could still get my desired deep tissue massage. Unfortunately, not the case, RE-EMPHASIZING; Gentle reaches level 5 multiple times. Very painful for her. She can only use the manual mode "Point" and "Partial" massage with the 3d level OFF for lower back, plus "Neck and Shoulder", "Sweet Dreams" and "Refreshing Nap". Depending on massage location she can get up to a level 2 and with the traps and neck a 5. Using manual mode for her is a real hassle due to multiple changes required to massage her back. That's why the I7 is a much better choice for her. 3d levels are programmable by sections - Low back, mid back, neck, plus you can store all settings in one memory for fast and easy recall. I have no back issues and love the chair. The back pads allow you to manually manipulate how intense you want the roller pressure points. With No pads, intense roller pressure points, 1 pad, pressure points a little less intense. .....ect. NOT USING ANY PADS: If you are 5'7" or shorter, you can use a "Car Front Seat Cover Half Surround PU Leather Pad Mat" (around $11 ebay) for neck and head support. You can also use the included 6 section pad if you want to bring your head a little more forward, beyond that of using the seat cover. Place the edge of the pad around your mid neck area. LOWER Rollers: In this area use two or more 7x9 Pot holders to ease the byte of the rollers. BODY SCAN Adjustment:: No info in the manual on this The chair has a manual adjustment option which shows up right after the initial Body Scan. Up and down arrows appear. At this point you can adjust the baseline roller position by tapping the arrows. You will notice each time the arrow is tapped, a 7 second timer appears. You have 7 seconds to decide if the rollers are in the correct position for you, if not, keep hitting the arrows until you are satisfied. Let the timer elapse, and the massage begins. TIMER TRICK: If you are at the end of a massage and you want to continue the massage without the chair resetting: Before the massage time expires, simply select another massage, then select the massage you desire, The timer will reset. OR you can open "Adjustments", select a different time then select your desired time. This also resets the timer to the desired time.. As far as I can tell you can do this as many times as you want. ZERO GRAVITY: Most auto programs do not use "Zero Gravity" for their standard massaging position. If you would like to use "Zero Gravity" as a massage position for an auto program, open "Adjustments" and select a "Zero Gravity" position. The chair will change and stay in that position until the conclusion of the auto program. This works on most of the auto programs. SHORT People: My wife is 5'3" this is the only chair we found that fits her. Example: She can feel the foot rollers on the Daiwa (the whole ottoman slides up), on the I7, she can barely feel the rollers. Fit was a big factor for the Daiwa purchase. She tried multiple chairs but none fit her correctly, there was always something not right. The above information was learned after we received the chair. Not enough time in the showroom to recognize the FORCE issue. On a personal note: SCIATICA: The last couple of days I've been cleaning my tile and grout, a great deal of bending in positions I'm not used to. As a result my sciatica started acting badly, to the point of making it difficult to even sit comfortably. I did a 30 min round of the Hybriflex program and the sciatica problem went away. I was hoping it would help, never dreamed it would go away completely. It worked for me, hopefully, it will work for others with an irritated sciatic nerve as well. SAFETY - Proximity Sensors: I didn't see this in the manuals. The chair has proximity sensors located on each side of the chair. They are positioned in the divide section ( 2-3inch silver separator) between the upper and lower side chair sections. To test the sensors, place your hand on or near the separator section after initiating a massage. The chair will start dinging. Take your hand off, and it stops. Try this when the chair is changing positions, the chair will stop, then resume once you remove your hand. The Supreme is a hard chair to beat. I fall asleep in the Supreme easier than my i7 Plus. When I wake in the Supreme, I feel like I'm trying to wake from anesthesia. Most of the time(90%+), I start another massage and go back to sleep. The most 30 minutes programs in one night, 4, so far. I couldn't wake up enough to get out of it. 4/5 stars: FORCE is misleading You really only have 12 noticeably different auto programs not 36 as indicated on some youtube videos.
@@MinhvuLy Wow! that's scary. Sort of like having a Mercedes with a computer parked in your house that you can't take to the garage? If something complicated happens, could be a horror show?
Thanks for the great review! Typically, I saw this 'after' I had bought one but still very pleased. It was funny though, I hated the ambient lighting of my older chair, and never used the voice control because it didnt really understand my speech. Wow but the weight! Still in another way that should translate to being far more sturdy.
@@MinhvuLy I forgot about this, actually the chair I bought had issues, was replace with another broken on arrival and then finally another which broke within a week. At which point I got a refund. I now use foam roller, not as good, but it doesnt break and cost 1/100th.
@@MinhvuLy it was through a local Australian company (supposedly the biggest). It was just like yours except the colour. I realise I was just unlucky, but got sick of the stress that the brand new broken ones were giving me.
What is the price and where can you buy it in the USA. That is the information you need to mention in your blog, except if you don’t want to disclose it to your viewers.
Hello. Please tell me how the chair works after two years? Any problems, squeaks? How are the massage carriages? Was there any repairs?
I still have it. Use every night. Still works great. I plan on making a video about the robustness.
Thanks for the answer. I also want to buy one and I’m worried about the quality, so I’m interested in this question.@@MinhvuLy
Please make another video on the massage chair and tell us what problems you had during these two years of using it. Thank you.
@@ТакидаМайорчик only problem I have really had is with the Bluetooth connection for the chair's speakers. Every couple of months I have to reset the chiar power to get it to function. That's about it. Nothing else.
Great video, bro. Going to Daiwa next week to check out their open box specials.
Alfine A688 has most of these features for $4300 USA shipped
How do I purchase this chair for the price you mentioned?
Email me. Vulyone@gmail.com
Hello Minhvu Ly,I was wondering how could I purchase this chair?BTW love the excitement of the video!
See video description
I've had my chair for 6 days. When I switch between Gentle, Soothing, and Vigorous (Force) I notice no differences. Do you notice any differences when you switch between the settings? I've tried most of the auto programs with the same results.
I do notice differences. Which model do you have?
@@MinhvuLy RT8900 Supreme Hybrid. Was told by another tuber that Force represents the number of times a Force setting reaches level 5 3d. Example Refresh auto program, 10min on gentle reaches a level 5 22 times, where vigorous reaches it 30, on my chair.
Bought in the US, there may be some software enhancements on yours verses the US sold models.
What do you feel when you change Force settings? I feel nothing. Even when I run the complete program with different Force settings, I can't tell a difference.
Thanks for the quick reply
@@user-kx4dj5ee3o force represents how much the rollers penetrate
@@MinhvuLy In my world and yours that's true but, in Daiwa's world its not. I fully expected Gentle to be 3d turned off, Soothing, varying from 0-3, and Vigorous from 0-5. That would make sense when using the FORCE Label.
Daiwa 4d Supreme Hybrid
Daiwa's FORCE Option they display, but don't say much about in their manual
FORCE:
an influence (as a push or pull) that tends to produce a change in the speed or direction of motion of something
By the above definition I fully expected Gentle to be 3d turned off, Soothing, varying from 0-3, and Vigorous from 0-5. That would make sense.
REALITY:
My interpretation of Daiwa's definition of FORCE is the number of times a 3d level 5 intensity occurs from start to finish of an auto program.
EXAMPLE:
Using the "Refresh" Auto Program for 10 minutes, aided by self produced videos, Gentle Force, Level 5 occurred 22 times. On Vigorous, level 5 occurred around 30
times.
BOTTOM LINE::
There will NOT be a noticeable difference from a FORCE setting of Gentle, Soothing, or Vigorous. That is basically what Daiwa's response was to me when I questioned and sent them videos of all the modes under the same conditions. I thought the chair wasn't working correctly.
Healthy back, no issues, this is a GREAT chair.
From a standing position, if you are able to bend backwards between 30 and 45 degrees without pain or discomfort, most likely you will be good with this chair, otherwise, don't buy the chair. Try a Luraco I7 or I7 Plus (I Own). NOT the Luraco I9 (I've tried), similar bending/arching issues.
My wife has lower back issues -- degenerative disc. We made the mistake of assuming FORCE was a 3d intensity level. In that mind set we thought she would be able to use the chair on the Gentle setting and I could still get my desired deep tissue massage.
Unfortunately, not the case, RE-EMPHASIZING; Gentle reaches level 5 multiple times. Very painful for her. She can only use the manual mode "Point" and "Partial" massage with the 3d level OFF for lower back, plus "Neck and Shoulder", "Sweet Dreams" and
"Refreshing Nap". Depending on massage location she can get up to a level 2 and with the traps and neck a 5. Using manual mode for her is a real hassle due to multiple changes required to massage her back. That's why the I7 is a much better choice for her. 3d levels are programmable by sections - Low back, mid back, neck, plus you can store all settings in one memory for fast and easy recall.
I have no back issues and love the chair.
The back pads allow you to manually manipulate how intense you want the roller pressure points. With No pads, intense roller pressure points, 1 pad, pressure points a little less intense. .....ect.
NOT USING ANY PADS:
If you are 5'7" or shorter, you can use a "Car Front Seat Cover Half Surround PU Leather Pad Mat" (around $11 ebay) for neck and head support. You can also use the included 6 section pad if you want to bring your head a little more forward, beyond that of using the seat cover.
Place the edge of the pad around your mid neck area.
LOWER Rollers:
In this area use two or more 7x9 Pot holders to ease the byte of the rollers.
BODY SCAN Adjustment:: No info in the manual on this
The chair has a manual adjustment option which shows up right after the initial Body Scan. Up and down arrows appear. At this point you can adjust the baseline roller position by tapping the arrows. You will notice each time the arrow is tapped, a 7 second timer appears. You have 7 seconds to decide if the rollers are in the correct position for you, if not, keep hitting the arrows until you are satisfied. Let the timer elapse, and the massage begins.
TIMER TRICK:
If you are at the end of a massage and you want to continue the massage without the chair resetting:
Before the massage time expires, simply select another massage, then select the massage you desire, The timer will reset. OR you can open "Adjustments", select a different time then select your desired time. This also resets the timer to the desired time..
As far as I can tell you can do this as many times as you want.
ZERO GRAVITY:
Most auto programs do not use "Zero Gravity" for their standard massaging position. If you would like to use "Zero Gravity" as a massage position for an auto program, open "Adjustments" and select a "Zero Gravity" position. The chair will change and stay in that position until the conclusion of the auto program. This works on most of the auto programs.
SHORT People:
My wife is 5'3" this is the only chair we found that fits her. Example: She can feel the foot rollers on the Daiwa (the whole ottoman slides up), on the I7, she can barely feel the rollers. Fit was a big factor for the Daiwa purchase. She tried multiple chairs but none fit her correctly, there was always something not right.
The above information was learned after we received the chair. Not enough time in the showroom to recognize the FORCE issue.
On a personal note:
SCIATICA:
The last couple of days I've been cleaning my tile and grout, a great deal of bending in positions I'm not used to. As a result my sciatica started acting badly, to the point of making it difficult to even sit comfortably. I did a 30 min round of the Hybriflex program and the sciatica problem went away. I was hoping it would help, never dreamed it would go away completely. It worked for me, hopefully, it will work for others with an irritated sciatic nerve as well.
SAFETY - Proximity Sensors:
I didn't see this in the manuals. The chair has proximity sensors located on each side of the chair. They are positioned in the divide section ( 2-3inch silver separator) between the upper and lower side chair sections. To test the sensors, place your hand on or near the separator section after initiating a massage. The chair will start dinging. Take your hand off, and it stops. Try this when the chair is changing positions, the chair will stop, then resume once you remove your hand.
The Supreme is a hard chair to beat. I fall asleep in the Supreme easier than my i7 Plus. When I wake in the Supreme, I feel like I'm trying to wake from anesthesia. Most of the time(90%+), I start another massage and go back to sleep. The most 30 minutes programs in one night, 4, so far. I couldn't wake up enough to get out of it.
4/5 stars: FORCE is misleading You really only have 12 noticeably different auto programs not 36 as indicated on some youtube videos.
What happens when the chair breaks down and needs service?
You have to service it yourself
@@MinhvuLy Wow! that's scary. Sort of like having a Mercedes with a computer parked in your house that you can't take to the garage? If something complicated happens, could be a horror show?
@@aregee7121 6 months and no problem yet
so how much is it? and where can you buy this?
email me vulyone@gmail.com
Thanks for the great review! Typically, I saw this 'after' I had bought one but still very pleased. It was funny though, I hated the ambient lighting of my older chair, and never used the voice control because it didnt really understand my speech. Wow but the weight! Still in another way that should translate to being far more sturdy.
Glad I could help!
@@MinhvuLy I forgot about this, actually the chair I bought had issues, was replace with another broken on arrival and then finally another which broke within a week. At which point I got a refund. I now use foam roller, not as good, but it doesnt break and cost 1/100th.
@@michaelfinch1965 did you order the one in the video or a generic chair?
@@MinhvuLy it was through a local Australian company (supposedly the biggest). It was just like yours except the colour. I realise I was just unlucky, but got sick of the stress that the brand new broken ones were giving me.
Why did u return the Amazon one?
The Amazon one does not have wiast air bags
@@MinhvuLy thanks for viedo. I just bought one today. Waiting for two weeks on shipping.
What is the price and where can you buy it in the USA. That is the information you need to mention in your blog, except if you don’t want to disclose it to your viewers.
Send me your email, I'll send you a link to the video. I had to private the video due to supplier demand
@@MinhvuLy I'm also trying to figure out how to send you an email? Don't see any contact info.
@@heathersmith6766 here is my email address. Vulyone@gmail.com
@@heathersmith6766 I sent you my privated video. Let me know if you can watch it.
@@MinhvuLy I’m interested as well in price but don’t see an option to privately message you
My chair fails to pair to its ipad. Very frustrating
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Hi! Was hoping for a tip on where to get one of these, I sent you an email recently. Thanks!
I'll send you a link to my private video
@@MinhvuLy cool I just resent my email to you for your convenience.
@@DennRN were you able to watch it?
@@MinhvuLy thanks, I did. You’re the best that was a very deep dive video on the order process, I really appreciate it!
Hey vu, would love to see this video too! I saw the pt2 video which was very in depth. Was there another private one?