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  • Learn how to find the area of triangle ABC by using the exterior angle theorem and the pythagorean theorem. Fast and easy explanation by PreMath.com
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  • @MathZoneKH
    @MathZoneKH 3 года назад +22

    First comment 😊❤️

    • @PreMath
      @PreMath  3 года назад +8

      Yes you are!
      Thanks for the visit! You are awesome 👍 Take care dear and stay blessed😃 Kind regards

    • @bahsarabi4234
      @bahsarabi4234 3 года назад

      ❤️

    • @MathZoneKH
      @MathZoneKH 3 года назад

      ❤️😊

    • @durgalimbu9739
      @durgalimbu9739 2 года назад

      @@PreMath sir so long process ? cannot use short method ?

    • @hahatseck
      @hahatseck 2 года назад +2

      I first use sine rule and have cosX=15/18 sinX=sqrt(11)/6
      and Area=18^2/2*cos2Xsin2X+
      30^2/2*sinXcosX
      =18^2sinXcosX(2(cosX)^2-1)+
      30^2/2*sinXcosX
      =80sqrt(11)

  • @montynorth3009
    @montynorth3009 3 года назад +41

    18/Sin x = 30/Sin 2x.
    But Sin 2x = 2.Sin x . Cos x.
    So 18/Sin x = 30/2.Sin x . Cos x
    Multiplying both sides by Sin x we get:-
    18 = 30/2Cos x.
    2 Cos x = 30/18
    Cos x =30/36 = 0.8333
    Cos x(-1) = 33.56 degrees.
    So back to the triangle, the angle ABC is 180-33.56-67.12 = 79.32 degrees.
    Area = 1/2 x18 x30 x Sin 79.32 = 265.323 Ans.

    • @robertlynch7520
      @robertlynch7520 3 года назад +1

      I got the same answer, the same way; see my write-up herein. My final part is a little different, computing 𝒄 and 𝒅 parts o the baseline, but ultimately, quite similar approaches.

    • @PreMath
      @PreMath  3 года назад +2

      Great tip!
      I'll make another vid with trigonometry and will be uploaded by tomorrow hopefully.
      Thanks Monty for the feedback. You are awesome 👍 Take care dear and stay blessed😃
      Love and prayers from Arizona, USA!

    • @armacham
      @armacham 3 года назад +4

      That's basically the way I went except I didn't reduce it to decimals, I kept the radicals, so I was able to get an exact answer for sinx, cosx, sin2x, cos2x, the base, the height, and the area.
      The other identity to use is (sin x)^2 + (cos x)^2 = 1. With that, you can use the value of cos x to solve for the value of sin x. Knowing that cos x = 5/6, (cos x)^2 = 25/36, so (sin x)^2 = 11/36, so sin x = +- sqrt(11)/6. And you know sinx must be positive because angles in a triangle are between 0-180 degrees and sin x is always positive when x is between 0 and 180, so you can reject the negative solution. sinx = sqrt(11)/6.
      From there it's trivial to calculate sin2x and cos2x using the same formulas. With the values of sinx, cosx, sin2x, and cos2x, and the side lengths you're given at the start, it's easy to split the triangle into two right triangles and apply the formulas (sine = opposite/hyp, cos = adj/hyp) to calculate the length of the base and the height of the triangle and then apply the formula a = bh/2

    • @pankajkumarpandey6658
      @pankajkumarpandey6658 3 года назад

      I have also said the same but you have solved completely. Excellent

    • @calspace
      @calspace 2 года назад

      I have been out of school too long, so the final equation you use is not familiar to me. But I’ll follow the same up until that steps. Then I used the sin equations to find the base which was 32.
      I then found the semiperimeter, which is 40, and used Heron’s formula.
      Area = sqrt(p * (p-a) * (p-b) * (p-c))

  • @sumangupta1737
    @sumangupta1737 3 года назад +147

    sine rule makes the process a lot simpler..

    • @nitinarora5719
      @nitinarora5719 3 года назад +4

      1/2 ab sinC

    • @anonim6160
      @anonim6160 3 года назад +1

      In which triangle

    • @anonim6160
      @anonim6160 3 года назад

      nvm

    • @sumangupta1737
      @sumangupta1737 3 года назад

      @@anonim6160 use sine rule and use the formula of sin3x to find sinx (i.e included angle of given sides..)

    • @sadtear796
      @sadtear796 3 года назад

      Thats right

  • @charlesbromberick4247
    @charlesbromberick4247 3 года назад +6

    Profe - Sometimes it amazes me how many interesting problems you can pull out of a few triangles, squares and circles!

  • @swinkscalibur8506
    @swinkscalibur8506 2 года назад +12

    As many have noted, using the sine law and the double angle formula for sine gives cos(x) = 5/6, and thus EC = 25, then using the observations you had you can easily see that AE = 7 and thus AC=32. The Pythagorean theorem used in triangle BCE gives BE, and you can finish with the standard Area formula. In the end you get an exact answer with radicals and you don't have to do any tricky algebra.

  • @Shinobi_OF_Tsushima
    @Shinobi_OF_Tsushima 2 года назад +3

    I used the double angle formula and the fact that h=18sin(2x) and that sin(x) = h/30. Obviously cos(x) =sqrt(1 - (h^2)/900) and from there it is just rearranging to find h and then pythagoras' theorem to find the base.
    A nice quick and easy area problem - perfect for an A-level maths lesson starter

  • @mathsandsciencechannel
    @mathsandsciencechannel 3 года назад +5

    Very great video sir. Making students gain confidence in math. Thank you sir

  • @user-ly5bc4xd2s
    @user-ly5bc4xd2s 2 года назад

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  • @johnfoggjr2458
    @johnfoggjr2458 3 года назад +5

    It’s obviously a 345 triangle. CX is 30 A 2x is 60, B must be 90. It’s a simple triangle base times height is 540. Half of that is your area = 270.

  • @UCE5YhzPOD
    @UCE5YhzPOD 3 года назад +13

    I found a soultion with less steps:
    Draw AD - angle bissection of angle A -> triangles ABD and CBA are similar with coefficient 18/30
    Now we can find BD = 18/30 * AB => DC = BC - BD => DA = DC (angles DAC=DCA) => AC = 30/18 * DA = 32
    Now using Heron's formula p = 40 S = sqrt(40*10*8*22)=80*sqrt(11)

  • @chessdev5320
    @chessdev5320 3 года назад +11

    1) Use sine law to find value of angle x.
    2) Use law of cosines to find the third side.
    3) Use the area formula i.e (absinC)/2
    -> This is just my way of doing it and there can be multiple ways to approach it.
    Btw, Kudos to them who solved it without using Trigonometry!

    • @chessdev5320
      @chessdev5320 3 года назад +2

      or simply after the 1st step, u can calculate angle B i.e (180°-3x)
      sinB=sin(180-3x)=sin3x
      Use triple angle formula as you already know sinx ;D
      And then just use the area formula:-
      =(18×30×sin3x)/2

    • @PreMath
      @PreMath  3 года назад +2

      Dear Kumar, in my next vid, I'll do this problem using trigonometry. No worries. I love trig as well. Thanks dear for the feedback. You are awesome 👍 Take care dear and stay blessed😃

    • @chessdev5320
      @chessdev5320 3 года назад +1

      @@PreMath well actually, your method is much better than me as mine method is just a list of formulas while your method is a good use of geometry 😁.

  • @kennethweigand4600
    @kennethweigand4600 3 года назад +1

    Loved this one!
    Thank you!!

  • @michaelcrosby7715
    @michaelcrosby7715 2 года назад +5

    3:41 There is no AAA Congruence theorem. The 2 triangles are congruent here, but you would need to use ASA or AAS congruence.

  • @prakashmadaksirashamrao5961
    @prakashmadaksirashamrao5961 3 года назад +3

    Another solution is to draw the angular bisector of the angle measuring 2x degrees and using angular bisector property and using similar triangles property and get BC =32.Though this method is a bit tortuous, it serves the purpose anyway.

  • @VIVEKANANDA65
    @VIVEKANANDA65 2 года назад

    Very nice questions framed and give room to thought processes, wherein the math lovers try to solve in different methods. I did this using trigonometry and used 5 steps ... but for those learners, who haven't got into trigonometry can solve as explained in the video solution ... But this tribe grow to sustain the live for Maths

  • @arpansit3155
    @arpansit3155 3 года назад +1

    Nice one sir keep it up

  • @sie_khoentjoeng4886
    @sie_khoentjoeng4886 3 года назад +29

    Thank you sir. Since the length of side is 18, 30 and 32, we also can calculate the area using:
    A = √s(s-a)(s-b)(s-c) which s=(a+b+c)/2
    In this case, s=(18+30+32)/2=80/2=40
    Then:
    A=√(40.(40-18).(40-30).(40-32))
    A=√(40.22.10.8) = √70400 = 265.33

    • @logos2114
      @logos2114 2 года назад

      hey we said it "u" teorem in turkey what you said it ? ( u(u-x)(u-y)(u-z) )^1/2

    • @sie_khoentjoeng4886
      @sie_khoentjoeng4886 2 года назад +1

      @@logos2114 We know it is Heron theorems of my mind serves better 😃😃. Maybe 's' is anbreviate of semilength (half of sum of length) instead of 'u'

    • @gurmukhsingh2358
      @gurmukhsingh2358 2 года назад

      It is called heron's formula here in india or simply hero's formula in local language

    • @logos2114
      @logos2114 2 года назад

      @@sie_khoentjoeng4886 😶 all people say it heron therom just l think it name is u teorem :// 😳

    • @Pottahverse143
      @Pottahverse143 2 года назад

      By Heron's formulae

  • @kalaiselvi7374
    @kalaiselvi7374 2 года назад

    Nice explanation Thank you.proof by using only common rules and theorems 👏👏

  • @acrade03
    @acrade03 3 года назад +16

    Put AC on the x-axis with A at (0,0) C at (u,0); then vectorAB=AC+CB we obtain 18sin2x=30sinx. Therefore, cosx=5/6; sin2x=5sqrt(11)/18; cos2x=7/18 and u=32; total area=determinat of〔AC AB〕 /2=80sqrt(11)

  • @johnbrennan3372
    @johnbrennan3372 3 года назад +2

    Excellent method. I did it using trigonometry. Area of triangleABC=1/2 by 18 by |ac| by sin 2x =1/2 by 30 by |ac| by sin x.This gives cos x =5 /6and sin x= (sq root11)\6. Area of the triangle ABC= 1/2 by 18 by30 by sin ( 180- 3x) = 1/2 by 18by30 by( 3sin x-4 sin cubed x).But sin x= (sq. root 11)/6 So area of triangle = 270 by (16 by sq root 11)/54 = 80 by sq root of 11.

  • @tablamurugesan
    @tablamurugesan 2 года назад

    Very nice explaination sir. Thanks.

  • @7mtm786
    @7mtm786 2 года назад

    Very good solution
    After first line to make them isotriangle rest one straight forward process

  • @manishgandhi8934
    @manishgandhi8934 3 года назад

    Great video sir 👍I appreciate that.

  • @easy_s3351
    @easy_s3351 3 года назад +3

    Alternatively you can draw a line from point A to BC so that it divides angle A into two equal angles of x degrees. Call the intersection with BC point D.
    In triangle ABC angle B is 180-3x degrees. In triangle ABD angle D then is 180-(180-3x)-x=2x degrees. As you can see triangle ABD and triangle ABC are similar triangles (two same angles and one same side).
    Using the law of sines in triangle ABC we can state that 18/sin x=30/sin 2x and so 18 sin 2x=30 sin x and sin x=18/30 sin 2x. Using that same law in triangle ABD we can state that 18/sin 2x=BD/sin x and so 18 sin x=BD sin 2x. Substituting for sin x gives 18(18/30 sin 2x)=BD sin 2x and so BD=324/30=10.8. That means CD=30-10.8=19.2.
    If you now consider triangle ACD you have angle A and angle C which are both x degrees and so triangle ACD is an isosceles triangle. That means AD=CD=19.2.
    Since triangles ABD and ABC are similar triangles we can now state that AB/BC=AD/AC so 18/30=19.2/AC which gives AC=32.
    Using Heron's Formula we can then calculate the area is √(s(s-a)(s-b)(s-c)) with s being half the perimeter. So s=1/2*(18+30+32)=40 and we get area=√(40(40-30)(40-32)(40-18)=√70400=80√11.

  • @eleganttutorial5836
    @eleganttutorial5836 2 года назад

    Nice Explanation sir

  • @mcorruptofficial6579
    @mcorruptofficial6579 2 года назад +1

    Hi dear, the problem can be solved by using bisection of BAC angle and so on
    Thanks for this example 👍

  • @DxRzYT
    @DxRzYT 2 года назад +1

    After finding the length of AC - which is 32 - you can use the cosine rule and rearrange to find the angle 2x
    2x=Cos-¹(18²+32²-30²/2(18)(32))
    which gives you 67.1... (1dp)
    then use ½abSinC to find the area
    ½×18×32×Sin(67.1...) = 265.32...

  • @JSSTyger
    @JSSTyger 3 года назад +5

    My final answer is 80(sqrt(11)). I think the trick is remembering the double angle formula for sine. The other side length is 32.

  • @luigipirandello5919
    @luigipirandello5919 2 года назад +2

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    • @PreMath
      @PreMath  2 года назад +1

      Wow, Great!
      Glad to hear that! Brazil is a beautiful country with beautiful people. So kind of you, my dear friend. You are very generous.
      Cheers!
      You are the best Keep it up 👍
      Love and prayers from the USA! 😀
      Stay blessed 😀

  • @sidimohamedbenelmalih7133
    @sidimohamedbenelmalih7133 3 года назад +5

    Really nice, this time the puzzle was more difficult what make it more "edcatif" i dont speak english very nice😅

  • @theoyanto
    @theoyanto Год назад

    Brilliant, I got the correct strategy, just needed guidance clipping it all together, great detailed explanation as always. Thanks again 👍🏻

    • @yeetboi4877
      @yeetboi4877 Год назад

      The strat in the vid sucked i solved with system of sines.

  • @dhrubajyotisarma6268
    @dhrubajyotisarma6268 3 года назад

    Geometry is very interesting as well as some hard ,nice video sir

  • @MasterMathematicsSM
    @MasterMathematicsSM 3 года назад +1

    Good . Explanation.. you are crossed 100 k.. congrats dear brother🎉🎉

  • @devaroraa
    @devaroraa 3 года назад +2

    Interesting question 🔥

  • @rabindranathrautaray7615
    @rabindranathrautaray7615 3 года назад +1

    It is a very beautiful solution

  • @sreedharaks3117
    @sreedharaks3117 3 года назад

    ಜೈ ಶ್ರೀ ರಾಮ್ 🙏 THAN Q "PRE Math "for presenting suuuuuper video of PUZZLE solution . very interesting.MAY GOD BLESS U ❤️!!!!

  • @qudretastanov2980
    @qudretastanov2980 2 года назад

    Thanks very much🙏🙏🙏🙏

  • @hung9837
    @hung9837 2 года назад

    Thank You Teacher

  • @India-jq7pi
    @India-jq7pi 3 года назад +1

    Thank you sir

  • @3outas_math823
    @3outas_math823 Год назад

    Very good

  • @user-tt4ep6fr4d
    @user-tt4ep6fr4d 3 года назад +4

    Thank you for this solution
    But I used another way which is the sin law
    And I got cos x
    Considering the third angle(180-3x)we can get the area 1/2*18*30*sin(180-3x)=sin3x
    =sin (2x+x)
    Using the sum formula and double angle we get the same result I am glad you wrote your opinion

    • @cosmosz8125
      @cosmosz8125 3 года назад

      rak tama khoya la3ziz

    • @cosmosz8125
      @cosmosz8125 3 года назад +1

      momkin l9awha b sinx w cosx (we use sinx=h/30 , sin2x=h/18 and sin²x+cos²x=1.....)

    • @user-pt7wn8pm1j
      @user-pt7wn8pm1j 2 года назад

      Solving by sin(3x) is not a good idea in this case.
      reason 1, sin(x) = sqrt[1- (cosx)^2] = sqrt(11)/6, a "sqrt" in included.
      reason 2, sin(3x) = 3*(sinx)-4*[(sinx)^3]. sin3x need to deal with "sqrt" and "(sqrt)^3".
      This solution need complex calculation.

  • @crazyrapidshorts8112
    @crazyrapidshorts8112 2 года назад +1

    You may also use heron's formula √s(s-a)(s-b)(s-c)
    where
    s = half of parameter and a,b,c are sides of triangle

  • @luismiguelguevarahinojosa6662
    @luismiguelguevarahinojosa6662 2 года назад

    Draw a line from C to the extension of the side BA so the angle between AC and this new line is X, because angle A is 2X, the other angle mising from this new triangle has to be X too, the side opposite to the first x is equal in length to AC because is an isosceles triangle, apply similarity and 32 as the length of AC. Then use heron's formula for the area.

  • @3nelad
    @3nelad 3 года назад +23

    18/sinx = 30/sin2x, we get cosx=5/6.

    • @ankaiahgummadidala1371
      @ankaiahgummadidala1371 3 года назад

      I also did the same method.

    • @krabkrabkrab
      @krabkrabkrab 3 года назад +1

      @@ankaiahgummadidala1371 me too. I did it entirely mentally. It directly gives cosx=5/6, so EC=25. Then cos2x=2cos^2x-1=7/18, so AE=7 and the base, AC=32. h^2=30^2-EC^2=275. Half base times height is 16*sqrt(275). This method is way quicker.

    • @lazzatbastar3497
      @lazzatbastar3497 3 года назад

      But not full answer. I mean cosx=5/6 does not give us AC length yet. Only knowing length of 2 sides and sin or cos of angle between two sides can let us calculate area of triangle. In exact S= 1/2* 18 * AC *sin x
      So we get cos x= 5/6 from sine theorem for triangle : sinx/18 = sin 2x/30. In exact sin x/sin 2x = 18/30, sin x /(2*sinx*cosx)= 18/30, 2*cos x=30/18, from where cos x= 5/6. Then we can calculate sin x from (1-(cos x)^2)^(1/2. So sin x=(11/36)^(1/2)
      Then using this information calculate AC which is sin(180- 3x)/AC = sin x/18 from sine theorem sinx/18=sin 2x/30 = sin (180-3x)= AC, where sin x = (11/36)^(1/2)
      Where sin(180-3x)= sin 3x which equals sin x*cos 2x+sin 2x*cos x. Where sin 2x= 2*(cos x)^2-1 = 1-2*(sinx)^2. We know already values for cos x, sin x
      At the end replace value for sin 3x and sin x in
      sin 3x/AC = sin x/18 and get AC=32.
      So area of triangle is S=1/2* 18*32 *sin x. Where sin x is (11/36)^(1/2) to get S= 1/2*18*32*(11/36)^(1/2)= 48*(11)^1/2

  • @adem-checkmate
    @adem-checkmate Год назад

    Just awesome

  • @DhirajSingh-mn6zu
    @DhirajSingh-mn6zu 3 года назад +1

    What is the guarantee that BD of length 18 will meet AC at D

  • @ishnoorsingh1877
    @ishnoorsingh1877 3 года назад

    Perfect 🙌🙌

  • @mrsir8968
    @mrsir8968 Год назад

    thank you

  • @zsus1
    @zsus1 Год назад

    good one...same time Sin formula can be used here and easier

  • @ufukkoyuncu3408
    @ufukkoyuncu3408 2 года назад

    Trigonometrik çozümlede kolayca bulunur ama sizin yaptiğiniz sekilde sentetik cozüm her zaman en güzeli cünkü daha yaraticı

  • @_basu_6320
    @_basu_6320 3 года назад +12

    Why don't we opt for the sine rule... It's quite easier... Although if you are willing to go for a rigorous solution then you use the method shown in the video

    • @ankaiahgummadidala1371
      @ankaiahgummadidala1371 3 года назад +3

      Following sine rule is a better method than what is followed in this video. You will arrive at the solutio with less time and effort.

    • @MarieAnne.
      @MarieAnne. 3 года назад

      How is the sine rule less rigorous?

  • @vcvartak7111
    @vcvartak7111 3 года назад +7

    May be using sine rule it would have been easier. 18/sin(x)=30/sin(2x) .we can get sin(180-3x) area =1/2 *18*30 *sin(180-3x)

  • @maneeshaliyanapatabendy1481
    @maneeshaliyanapatabendy1481 2 года назад

    this can be done with those theorems as well as using trig. but which method is quicker, which method is widely accepted?

  • @ddmm7893
    @ddmm7893 3 года назад +2

    The problem actually has 2 solutions and you only consider one.
    Demonstration
    1) sin (x) / 18 = sin (2x) / 30
    =>
    cos (x) = 5/6
    2) AB² = AC² + BC²-2.AC.BC.cos (x)
    18² = AC² + 30²-60.AC.5 / 6
    AC²-50.AC-576 = 0
    Delta = 625-576 = 49:
    1st case: AC = 25 + 7 = 32
    It is the solution that you consider and that gives
    Area = 80V11
    and
    2nd case: AC = 25-7 = 18
    You do not consider this solution which gives according to the formula of Heron
    Area = 45V11

  • @fouadhammout651
    @fouadhammout651 2 года назад

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  • @mauriciobrito1160
    @mauriciobrito1160 2 года назад

    A área do triângulo ABC é a metade do polígono formado pelos vértices A,B,C e "D". Uma vez achados os lados do polígono ABCD que são AB=18 e AC=32, basta concluir que a área do triângulo é A=(18*32)/2=288. E outro modo de achar o ângulo x é pela lei dos senos : (18/sen x) = (30/sen 2x), em uma única equação. Encontrando "x" se determina o ângulo ^B, e em seguida o lado AC.
    Dessa forma seria muito mais simples e limpo.

  • @ravikrpranavam
    @ravikrpranavam 2 года назад

    Well explained

  • @janiewiemkto2368
    @janiewiemkto2368 2 года назад

    You can also calculate it from: P=1/2a*b*sin(

  • @parameshbussu9244
    @parameshbussu9244 Год назад

    Nice
    Sir

  • @GillAgainsIsland12
    @GillAgainsIsland12 2 года назад

    I used Law of Sines to calculate value of x, which is 33.557 degrees. Then, 30sin33.557 = 16.583 which is the altitude. The base is obtained by adding 18cos67.115 and 30cos33.557, which equals 32. Then 1/2basexheight = 265.328 units.

  • @bocaj.455
    @bocaj.455 2 года назад

    Can't believe you have chosen this very long and complicated method. You can do it in two lines using sine rule to get angle X, then angle B = 180 - 3X , the use area = 1/2 (18) (30) sin B.

  • @jesusantoniocarhuashuerta4662
    @jesusantoniocarhuashuerta4662 3 года назад

    Good solution

  • @michaelsteinkugel495
    @michaelsteinkugel495 2 года назад +1

    This problem can be solved much more easily with the Euclid catheter set. the squares over the cathetus result in the square over the hypothenuse. If you divide the square above the hypotenuse with one of the smaller squares of the cathete, you get the second length that you need to calculate the height using the Pythagorean theorem. the rest is then simple, base x height divided by 2.

    • @okeuwechue9238
      @okeuwechue9238 Год назад

      I suspect that PreMath is always solving these problems the *long* way because of the youtube algo (- longer videos and more "user time" spent watching the vids may increase monetization and advertising dollars...)

  • @holyshit922
    @holyshit922 2 года назад

    Law of sines and double angle for sine - value of cosine of x
    Pythagorean identity - value of sine of x
    From sum of angles in triangle on the Euclidean plane is 180 so we need the value of sin(3x)
    sin(3x) can be calculated using double angle identity for both sine and cosine
    and then sin(3x) can be calculated using sin of sum

  • @raymondruiz5839
    @raymondruiz5839 2 года назад +2

    Angle, angle, angle congruency for triangles? It should have been HL. AAA is used for triable similarity.

  • @mshanmukhavalli4567
    @mshanmukhavalli4567 3 года назад

    Nice sum

  • @nazimusik
    @nazimusik 2 года назад +1

    I believe law of sines can be used to avoid so much working, and making so many triangles and all this bunch of separate solutions

  • @phuhuynhtoanphothong468
    @phuhuynhtoanphothong468 Год назад

    Verrygood

  • @ramaprasadghosh717
    @ramaprasadghosh717 3 года назад +1

    denoting AB by c and AC by b one gets a = BC = c+ 2d ( say)
    So height AD *AD = c*c - d*d
    = b*b - (c+d)^2
    simplifying d= b*b/(2c) - c
    so AD *AD = c*c - d*d
    =(2c - b*b/(2c))(b*b)/(2c))
    so desired area
    =(b*b+ 2c*c)/(2c))AD/2
    For c = 18 b = 30, b*b/(2c)= 25
    Hereby AD = 5√(11) and a = 7+7 +18
    Therefore deaired area
    = 80√(11)
    Another method
    b/ sin(2x) = c/ sin(x)
    or b/(2c) = cos(x) and so forth

  • @user-wm1vk1cv2t
    @user-wm1vk1cv2t 3 года назад +2

    Here is another way
    1.extend CA to CD such that AD=AB=18
    2.triangle ABD is similar to triangle BCD
    3.AB:BD=BC:CD , then CD=50 AC=32
    4.AB=18,BC=30,AC=32 ,use Heron’s formula
    get the answer , 80sqrt(11)

  • @arunprasad1022
    @arunprasad1022 Год назад

    At 3:39 the theorem that you used to prove that the two triangles is not a valid congruence theorem because AAA theorem is valid for similar triangles and not for congruent triangles. The triangles can be said to be congruent by RHS, ASA or SAS congruence theorems.

  • @pradyumnakumarnayak9384
    @pradyumnakumarnayak9384 2 года назад +1

    Namaste sirji.

  • @fedorhotabich
    @fedorhotabich Год назад

    Also such a way: (1) Bisect angle A. Let D is intersection point with BC such that BC=BD+DC . Then ADC is isosceles triangle AD=DC then (2) ABD ~ CBA --> AB/CB=BD/BA=AD/CA --> 18/30=BD/18=AD/AC where AD=BC-DB=30-BD --> BD=18^2/30 AD=30-18^2/30=(30^2-18^2)/30 and AC=AD*30/18=(30^2-18^2)/18=12*48/18=32 (3) Half perimeter p=(AB+BC+CA)=(18+32+30)/2=40 . Applying Heron relation S=Sqrt(40*(40-18)*(40-32)*(40-30))=Sqrt(4*10*2*11*8*10)=80*Sqrt(11) is ANSWER

  • @unn0wn224
    @unn0wn224 Год назад

    one correction at 3:45
    proving triangles congruent by AAA axiom is not true and only applies in some special cases because it is for similar triangle not congruent , and congreunt triangle are similar triangle but similar triangle are not necessarily congruent. there should be at least one side equal for a triangle to be congruent

  • @konstantinjoukovski7062
    @konstantinjoukovski7062 2 года назад

    Good solution, but solution with trigonometry is shorter.
    I first used law of sines: 18:sinx=30:sin2x. Then replaced sin2x with 2sinx cosx, thus we can find cosx=5/6 and sinx=√11/6 .
    The square of the triangle is equal to 0.5*18*30*sin(180-3x)=270*sin3x anb then use formula for sin3x.

  • @hnahler
    @hnahler 2 года назад +5

    Different approach and much faster: drop a vertical of length h from B to the base b to get two triangles. Use the sine expressions for x and 2x based on h and the given length (18 and 30) and take sin(2x)=2sin(x)cos(x). It follows that cos(x) = 5/6. Then divide b into the parts left and right of the vertical. Using cos(x) and Pythagoras they are 25 and 7, so b=32. Further using Pythagoras, h = 5*sqrt(11). A=0.5*b*h=80*sqrt(11).

    • @hakkisuperheld
      @hakkisuperheld 2 года назад +1

      Indeed, I've done the same approach.

    • @okeuwechue9238
      @okeuwechue9238 Год назад

      I suspect PreMath prefers always solving problems the LONG way because it may help to increase youtube monetization and ad dollars...

  • @NinjaJacky
    @NinjaJacky 2 года назад

    Apply sine rule first we get angle A is equal to 180 minus 3x, then with the help of sine rule we find cosx =5/6, sinx = root 11 upon 6, after that area of triangle is equal to 1/2*18*30*sinA which is equivalent to 80 root 11.

  • @c8h182
    @c8h182 3 года назад

    More geometry questions please.

  • @shrovitz969
    @shrovitz969 2 года назад

    We could have Lao used the law of sines but this solution is much more elegant.

  • @theakshanshinstitute2876
    @theakshanshinstitute2876 3 года назад +1

    It can also be done by trigonometry

  • @user-pd7js7cy9m
    @user-pd7js7cy9m 2 года назад +2

    Спасибо. НО , можно чуть иначе. (1) A=0.5*18*30*sin(180*-3*x)=270*sin(3*x). Известно , что (2) sin(3*x)=3*sin(x)-4*[sin(x)]^3. По теореме синусов для треугольника ABC , получаем 18/sin(x)=30/sin(2*x). Отсюда cos (x)=5/6 , а (3)sin(x)=sqrt(11)/6. Подставляем (3) в (2) , потом в (1) - получаем Ваш ответ. С уважением, Лидий.

    • @user-rk5eh2sh9v
      @user-rk5eh2sh9v 2 года назад

      По мне так бесконечность решений, ибо со сторонами 18 и 30 и зависимостью углов что угол а в два раза больше угла б - бесконечное множество треугольников. Допустим угол х - 30, тогда площадь 270. А у треугольника с углами 36, 72 и 72 который внезапно равнобедренный можно опустить высоту из угла С на сторону АВ, которая будет равна корень из (900-81) а площадь этот корень помножить на 1/2*18. И очевидно что это не 270. Вот уже 2 треугольника удовлетворяющих условию и с разными площадями.

    • @user-pd7js7cy9m
      @user-pd7js7cy9m 2 года назад

      Увы! Нельзя «допустить» , что один угол 30* , а другой 60*. Ибо : 18/sin30* НЕ РАВЕН 30/sin60*. А мы все верим в ТЕОРЕМУ СИНУСОВ. С уважением, Лидий.

    • @user-rk5eh2sh9v
      @user-rk5eh2sh9v 2 года назад

      @@user-pd7js7cy9m То есть выходит, что существует только одна комбинация и углов где один больше другого в два раза и при которых стороны 30 и 18.
      Я просто визуально прикинул что если тянуть на за точку В этого треугольника будет меняться высота, длина основания и углы, но меняться они будут не произвольно, а относительно длины сторон. То есть да, значения углы могут быть какие угодно, но так что бы один угол был больше другого в два раза только один вариант. Спасибо.

    • @sv6183
      @sv6183 2 года назад

      @@user-rk5eh2sh9v @Олег Полканов
      Просто должно соблюдаться условие, что
      cos x = b/(2a),
      где а - сторона лежащая напротив угла х ,
      b - напротив угла 2х.

  • @johngreen3543
    @johngreen3543 Год назад

    I did this using trig exclusively. sin x/18 =sin2x/30 implies sinx/18=2sinxcosx/30 thus cos x = 5/6 and sinx = 11^(1/2)/6 then the area is A = .5(18)(30)sin(180-3x) = 270(sin (180-3x))
    the expression sin (180-3x) can be shown to equal sinx(3-4(sinx)^2) = 11^(1/2)/6(3-4*11/36)=
    11^(1/2)/6(3-44/36)=11^(1/2)/6(64/36)=11^(1/2)/6(16/9) so A =270*11^(1/2)(16/54)=
    80*11^(1/2).

  • @julioricardoaguilarsilva1576
    @julioricardoaguilarsilva1576 3 года назад

    Por semejanza sale un poco más rápido. El ejercicio desarrollado usa mucha 95% de álgebra pero es un buen aporte.

  • @hennobrandsma4755
    @hennobrandsma4755 2 года назад

    30/sin(2x) = 18/sin(x) gives cos(x)=5/6 by using sin(2x) = 2sin(x)cos(x).
    Then the final side follows from rule of cosines: 18^2 = 30^2 + c^2 - 2*30*c*(5/6), so c^2 - 50c +576=0 from which c=32 follows.
    Then apply standard Heron formula for the area. No need for any drawings or helping triangles.

  • @genaltruista
    @genaltruista 2 года назад

    sí esta clarito, esto se resuelve mas fácil usando la ley de senos.

  • @luigipirandello5919
    @luigipirandello5919 3 года назад +2

    Nice question and very nice solution. Thank you, professor. Have a nice day.

  • @okeuwechue9238
    @okeuwechue9238 Год назад

    Thnx for the vid. However, I'm still not sure why you chose to solve this the LOOOONG way by first constructing the isosceles triangle. A far simpler technique is to simply split the triangle into two right-angled triangles then apply the double angle formula and Pythag to find the side lengths and hence the total area.

  • @AbouTaim-Lille
    @AbouTaim-Lille 2 года назад

    18/sinx = 30/sin2x = c/sinc . This relation can be used to determine the angle x and thus all the angles. ( sin2x = 2sinx cosx leads directly to cos x as sinx≠0 cancels out from both side) And then after knowing the 3rd angle we can use the last formula to determine the third side.
    Finally the area of the triangle can be calculated easily using the formula :
    A² = s(s-a) (s-b)(s-c) . Where a, b, c are the 3 sides, 2s the perimeter. Simple

  • @Hertog_von_Berkshire
    @Hertog_von_Berkshire 3 года назад

    I thought my method was laborious but I hadn't watched the video yet!!

  • @plamenpenchev262
    @plamenpenchev262 Год назад

    Draw a bisectrix if angle 2x. You obtain two similar triangles. You can then find the third side equal to 32. Then Heron formula.

  • @andrewng622
    @andrewng622 3 года назад +1

    3:43 the angle-angle-angle theorem indicates similar triangles only, not congruent triangles.

    • @MarieAnne.
      @MarieAnne. 3 года назад

      You're right. He seems to have skipped a step. Angle-angle-angle indicates similar triangles. But since we have similar triangles that share a corresponding side, they are congruent.

  • @johnfoggjr2458
    @johnfoggjr2458 3 года назад

    A very complicated way of arriving at answer.This must the new math today.

    • @johnfoggjr2458
      @johnfoggjr2458 3 года назад

      I guessed 270 just by looking at it.

  • @chinnachamykrishnasamy2010
    @chinnachamykrishnasamy2010 3 года назад

    We can use sine rule to calculate the distance AC. By using three side we can calculate Area of the triangle ABC

  • @TheEulerID
    @TheEulerID 2 года назад

    I noted that h = 30 * sin(x). Also, h = 18 * sin (2x). But sin(2x)=2 * sin(x) * cos (x) therefore h = 36 * sin(x) * cos(x) = 30 * sin(x). Cancel out the sin(x) and remove common factors and you get cos(x) = 5/6. Therefore the length of EC is 5 x 30 / 6 = 25. By Pythagoras's theorem, l = √(900-625) = √275. Now apply Pythagoras's theorem to the triangle AEB and you get AE^2 = 324 - 275 = 49 therefore the length of AE is 7. Thus the length of the base AC is 7+25 = 32.
    Multiply the base by half the height and we get the area = 32 * √275 / 2 which simplifies slightly to 80 * √11.
    Of course this requires the use of a trigonometric identity, but I think it's simpler.

  • @YTN137
    @YTN137 2 года назад

    For my think , grade 7 & 8 ( Alberta , CAN ) not yet learn about sine , cos ....But follow all your steps ( apply grade 6, 7, 8 Math ) they can understand to solve this problem easier . Thank you .

  • @tomcruise6738
    @tomcruise6738 3 года назад +2

    It was a very challenging problem, but you provided its outstanding solution. Kudos to you dear.
    Love and Prayers from India!! ❤️

    • @PreMath
      @PreMath  3 года назад +1

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  • @lusalalusala2966
    @lusalalusala2966 2 года назад

    Another way to solve this problem is to find h as follows. h=30sin(x)=18sin(2x)=36sin(x)cos(x). Because sin(x) cannot be 0, we have cos(x)=5/6, therefore sin(x)=sqrt(11)/6, and then h=30sin(x)=5sqrt(11). now use Pythagoras to find the two segments from A to the foot of h and from there to C.

  • @bharatpakkha7787
    @bharatpakkha7787 2 года назад

    It can be solved without solving for the length of the bass or even the angle x

  • @mikezilberbrand1663
    @mikezilberbrand1663 2 года назад

    Where did you find angle-angle-angle theorem about congruency? Say Hypotenuse-leg or angle-angle-side.

  • @mkryan2397
    @mkryan2397 3 года назад

    From ratio theory of the triangle ABC, we can write,
    (Sinx/18) = (sin2x/30)
    Or, 2sinx.cosx = 30.sinx/18
    [as, sin2A=2sinA.cosA]
    Or, cosx = 30/36 = 5/6 ......(i)
    Again, cosx = b/30 [b= length bet'n perpendicular foot point & triangle's point "C"]
    So, b/30 = 5/6
    Or, b = 25
    And if height be "h" then,
    h^2 = 30^2 -b^2
    = (30+25)(30-25) [b=25]
    = 55×5
    = 11×5×5
    So, h = 5.rt11
    So, a = rt {18^2-(5.rt11)^2}
    = rt(324-275)
    = rt.49
    Or, a = 7 [here, a = AC-b]
    So, AC = 7+25 = 32
    Therefore,
    Area = 0.5×h× AC
    = 0.5×5.rt11×32
    = 80.rt11
    = 265.33 sqr unit [Ans.]