MORE ABOUT THOMAS THE TANK ENGINE (RWS vs T&F) (Spot the Differences)
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- Опубликовано: 19 авг 2024
- The Railway Series #30
Thomas & Friends: Thomas, Percy and the Coal ~ The Runaway ~ Better Late Than Never
The soundtrack of this video are cover versions of music created by Mike O'Donnell & Junior Campbell:
BBC Orchestra, Sudrian Afro, ZStacksTug & OneTramBand
4:02 Gotta love his passive-aggressive tone in this scene which for me is very rare in those videos
They could have adapted "Stop Thief" from really useful engines. Thomas was the main in that story
That would have been the perfect kickoff to Season 2. The chase was tailor-made for the dynamic camera angles and panning shots the Season introduced.
Triple header could've been adapted instead of better late then never it would've established a dynamic between thomas percy and duck (I still hate that and scaredy engines are the only official stories to focus on specifically the three main tank engines)
Stop Thief should have been adapted for S4, Because “Fish and Mind That Bike” were both based on the RWS stories of the same name, and Caroline should have been the red car that Thomas is chasing, and it would be their first time interacting.
,,Better late than never “is underrated .
overrated
There's a theory going round that Better Late than Never was the replacement episode for The Missing Coach after it was cancelled.
Makes sense
What, I thought it was the first s2 episode, thomas percy and the coal, that makes some more sense to me, you're probably referring to that said to be stock footage.
David Mitton said the replacement for The Missing Coach was Thomas, Percy, and the Coal. Many fans are of the view this is a Mandela effect on his part given that the story is technically complex for a replacement, and moreover it is thought that the entire series’ worth of shots were filmed on each set. Therefore many fans have surmised that it is Better Late Than Never as a replacement for these reasons, but I have seen other theories that suggest Percy Takes The Plunge.
The station Thomas stops at is Upper Brendam, meaning Thomas would've had to pass through Crosby, Wellsworth, Suddery and Lower Suddery to get there, not to mention that he is not even on the correct side of Elsbridge or even on his branch line for that matter, but instead stops on Edward's
Having used to have the book while watching the episodes, I have indeed noticed, on how different Thomas and Percy's incidents were in "Thomas, Percy and the Coal", along with how soon they forgive each other. Of course, because I enjoyed the TV series, while also finding it more dramatic, I had preferred the TV version, of Thomas' incident in "Thomas, Percy and the Coal". But I understand what you mean, on how much coal was poured out. I guess, that nobody realised, on how much coal should be poured out, when the last truck missed. And I did kind of notice, on James pulling vans in the TV version of "Better Late than Never", but I didn't find it being too much of an issue. ...Don't know how to make up for that, but I guess, that Thomas was just waiting for James anyway. And I did enjoy Terence, Annie, Clarabel and the inspector's added lines in "The Runaway". Oh, regarding "Drip Tank", I had wondered why it wasn't adapted...though I was flabbergasted at Thomas and Percy calling each other a drip. So, that is kind of one reason why I prefer them forgiving each other in the TV version of "Thomas, Percy and the Coal".
Adapting Drip Tank requires a new dilemma for the 2 since Thomas, Percy And The Coal on tv had them resomve their quarrel.
My only guess is maybe Thomas accidentally lashes out at Percy because he had a bad day and Percy takes offense at that when he wants some cheering up from getting his Boiler scratched?
@@Thomasmemoryscentral Hmm, that's true, on adapting the story. But good idea.
@@callum110597 ratio
I remember when this video first came out. And I was intrigued by the history that this books stories where adapted around the time season 2 was made. Anyway at first I thought this was the last book of the series but then I realized Toby's trucks and trouble has the Percy and Bulstrode story so I'll be looking forward to that. Keep up the good work dude.
The movie posters at 0:17 is a nice touch! (I understand they're not Thomas-related but still cool to see them in conjunction with it!)
In the railway series the engines have black running boards, but in the TV series they have white running boards.
My theory towards James arriving with the vans instead of coaches, in the TV episode of 'Better Late than Never', was to give Thomas some goods supplies for him to take down his branch line. But still it would have made more sense for him to arrive with coaches full of passengers. Also, did you notice in the episode that Henry didn't have coaches nor anything behind him at all, despite the fact he was supposed to be giving Thomas his passengers? That is really strange.
For those wondering which of the 3 adapted stories was not originally going to be adapted into an episode for Series (but later was because of the cancelled episode ‘The Missing Coach’), it is currently believed that ‘Better Late Than Never’ is the replacement episode. This is backed up by the the apparent randomness of this episodes placement in the series, some of the Thomas shots which are theorised to be reused from ‘The Missing Coach’ and what appears to be a deleted shot of Edward & Trevor crossing the Viaduct which looks like it would of been filmed for the episode ‘Thomas & Trevor,’ suggesting a very quick production. Although, this is just a theory and the latest believe episode to be ‘The Missing Coach’ replacement (‘Thomas, Percy & the Coal’ and ‘Thomas & Trevor’ have been theorised in the past as well.)
On the flipside, the viaduct was continually being shown as under repair in subsequent appearances that season.
Here's something that I realised when thinking about the episode order based on this book's stories:
1) The show's producers wanted more Thomas-centric stories to adapt, so after Chris had written the book, they could use the first story as Season 2's opener, seeing as Thomas is the main character and the show is named after him. However...
2) In the book *The Runaway* is a continuation of the first story. Percy is mended following his accident (the reason he crashed is because something inside him broke), but then Thomas has to be repaired, so The Fat Controller asks Duck to help out on Thomas's branch line. But because Duck had not been introduced yet in the TV series, it made no sense to put that episode after *Thomas, Percy and the Coal.*
3) *Better Late Than Never* feels like a pointless, standalone filler story in the book, which is a common occurrence in Christopher's books. However, on further reflection I realised that is not entirely the case. This is because in *Drip Tank* Thomas has his accident because he's trying to make up for lost time because of Henry being late. Although it's not mentioned why Henry is late, I strongly assume it's because the viaduct's repairs have not been completed.
So, those are my thoughts.
Finally after 5 years, you have completed the whole railway series.
@mulfredmodelrailway I didn't know that episode was based on a RWS story
IMO, you should do Thomas’ Christmas party and Thomas and the missing Christmas tree as a finally to the series. Just an idea.
Finale*
I've even planned to do The TV Series VS The Adventure Begins as a sequel to this series.
The funny thing is, I actually read this book yesterday. But anyways, take your time Jeffrey, I'm being patient about Toby, Trucks and Trouble.
In Daisy on the RWS version when Daisy arrives to Elsbridge the next morning Percy appears pulling the Milk Tanker and in the TV version Toby makes that but not all his body and Percy in the RWS is his full body.
That's Branch Line Engines
So my theory about the coal hopper continuously pouring coal is that there's a certain amount of weight on the tracks under it the hopper automatically pours the coal.
when Percy overshot the hopper it had already been activated and when the coal falls on the tracks it automatically places that weight on the tracks causing it to continuously pour out.
For me I thought the hopper malfunctioned
@@georgspielberger9780 yeah i just always thought that it broke after missing the last truck so poured out the whole load
Thomas.
“Toby, Trucks, and trouble” is the 32nd book of the railway series. And was first published in 1988. It was written by the son of the rev. W. Awdry, Christopher Awdry and illustrated by Clive spong. 6 years later, one of the books four short stories was adapted for television during series 4 of Thomas and friends. How faithful were these adaptations (Was this adaptation)? Let’s spot the differences.
Technically, two. They were condensed into one.
@@killdozer7792 yeah, I guess so. Toby’s seaside trip was part of one the unadapted stories.
I love these videos.
Too bad its the last one.
My guy’s back!
that was the viaduct that the red percy looking engine fell of and died
I put it down to a hopper malfunction (i.e., the person operating tried to get it to stop dispensing coal, but the flap couldn't be closed properly). The result: a dirty and grumpy tank engine.
3:52: I feel like just one spill of coal would've done the job just fine, Britt!
Fantastic.
To be fair in the book and I’m the episode Thomas does say to James, “it’s lucky for you im a guaranteed connection”, meaning Thomas has to wait for a passenger train to arrive at the junction. The same is said in four little engines when the refreshment lady tells Peter Sam that Henry can’t leave him and his passengers behind because it’s a guaranteed connection
I like the coal crash Thomas sence in the book
This has got to be my favourite Book by Christopher Awdry. I do understand why Christopher wasnt pleased with the book.
Great video :)
Well, only Toby, Trucks and Trouble left, as well as Thomas’s Christmas Party and Thomas and the Missing Christmas Tree!
On a minor note, the episode Henry Gets The Express from Season 20 is similarly titled to the book of the same name.
Percy wasn’t PULLING the trucks in the book. He’s PUSHING them.
The station thomas stopped at in the adaption was upper brendam, not suddery
I kinda wish they gave thomas the flat running board in the tv series he looks better with it
The coal hopper could have jammed open
0:22-0:23 Henry should have surprised face something similar was on Gallant Old Engine when Rheneas returned Henry has the serious face instead of happy.
Very well detailed video!
The stories toke place in 1985
Was Drip Tank ever planned for S2 of Thomas and Friends?
Yea 6 years later the book was adapted into one short episode Thomas the Tank Engine and Friends how faithful where this habitation let's see if we can spot the differences
In Mavis on TV and RWS originally Daisy would be Mavis.
Actually the station that thomas stops at in the episode is upper brendam
As boring as More About Thomas The Tank Engine is, I don’t mind it. I imagine that there were often boring days on the railways, so I imagine Thomas and friends had a few very uninteresting occurrences.
Series 2(1986)
Narrated by:George Carlin
Good video
After you post a spot the difference video of "Toby Trucks and Trouble", can you do one for the Railway Series book of "Thomas's Christmas Party" and one for the Railway Series book of "Thomas and the Missing Christmas Tree"?
0:22-0:23 On RWS version Henry dont appears when Thomas moved.
on ur video including mind that bike fish is in season 5
The last one I think
I know that one of The Marx Brothers Films is Go West but what's the one with Harpo at the type writer and the toaster?
The Big Store
So, which one of the three stories from that book which were adapted was going to be left out then, do you know?
Only 1 book left. What will happen next?
2 stories? Don't you mean 3 stories?
"You'll laugh on the other side of your smokebox." I'm sorry but can someone explain that comment, I never understood it.
This is one of my least favourite books, because Thomas and Percy act like kids all throughout it. But I did like The Runaway, as the story was exciting, and it was nice to see Harold return for the first time since Percy The Small Engine.
Sure their arguments are petty, but that’s how Thomas and Percy have always acted. Just look at Tramway Engines.
@@notcardlinsytaccount1355 But starting with Series 3, they both seemed to mellow out. Still poking fun at each other every now and again, but just for fun and nothing more.
@@supermariof0521 Right. This was most certainly a result of the writers wanting to push the younger characters closer together to be more marketable and friendly to kids. Shame that they decided to alter the characters that way though, since I always enjoyed seeing their egos clash. Prickly Thomas is the best Thomas imo.
@@notcardlinsytaccount1355 Fair enough.
People act like that in real life tho
1986
1985
The missing coach being cancelled was the reason ringo left after the missing Xmas tree episode . Ringo fell out with allcroft .
6:47 film name?
I was hoping this would be different to the one originally uploaded to your other channel. I've noticed some things that I'd like to point out or ask about.
1) Why is Principal Skinner shown? I do remember the _Simpsons_ episode where this scene appears; he's threatened by some heavies about money or copyright infringement or something like that, so he retaliates by getting rid of them using moves he learnt in the army. Does that sound about right?
2) I thought that you would make a reference to the infamous line "It was time for Thomas to leave. He had seen everything." This was not present in the book, but the script writers included it.
3a) Henry is pulling a passenger train in the book when he is reasoning with Thomas about being late, but in the episode, he is just idling at the platform.
3b) "Impatientness"? Did you not mean "impatience"?
I do like your comparison videos, but I just had to raise these points. Only one more book to go!
You are right about Skinner
@Bobby Lawson I watched that scene. He says "Copyright expired!"
Christ on a bike, nitpicking if I’ve ever seen it
Hey! Can someone sent me pictures from the book "The twin engines", because i want to read it all, but cant find the books pages!
Is this a re upload cause I remember seeing this vid few years ago
6:47-6:50 Wow, where is that movie footage from?
From the 30s probably /:)
@@Thatonedrater True, because it is in black and white.
Laurel and Hardy.
Toby trucks and trouble is the 32 book of The Railway Series and was first published in 1988 it was written by Christopher Adwry son of the Reverend Wilbert Adwry and was illustrated by Clive spawn 6 years later two of the books short stories was adapted into one short of Thomas the Tank Engine and friends how faithful where these adaptations let's see if we can spot the differences the first story Mavis and the lorry what's not adapter for television the second-story toby seaside holiday what's the next story of the book Bulstrode was put together and they change the title to special attraction The Last Story Toby takes the road was not chosen for television ding ding
A yellow why would you say that whole thing
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This book has the laziest title ever
Even Christopher acknowledged that the title was unimaginative, which is one of two reasons why he was dissatisfied with the book.
Should have been called 'Quarrelsome Engines' or 'Quarreling Engines'
1st
better late than never is the most boring episode EVER.