Bruh they saying teams with new players needs adjustment before winning (like the Suns & the Bucks) but Celtics have 2 new players/ starters last season and won. What Knicks got are the same players that what the Celtics got as well. The “right fit”. Both Jrue and KP are the right fit and missing pieces for them to get over the hump and win the championship. It’s the same with the Knicks. I believe both Mikal and KAT are missing pieces for them to win it all. And if these 2 teams meet in the conference finals. Who ever has the healthier team will win.
Facts. It's HEALTH that's gonna be the main factor...all this talk is non-sense. On paper, right now, Celtics got the edge...but it's a long and full season and let's see how it plays out first because one or two key players from either side that gets hurt will impact the whole team. I feel the Knicks have upgraded tremendously and can compete with Celtics now - I'm excited.
You do know that the Celtics already eliminated a healthy new Knicks twice from the play offs in the past already by Tatum & Brown. Oh and let's not forget that a healthy Joel embiid got eliminated 3 times in the playoffs by Jason tatum
I agree that the 2 pieces the Knicks added are good for them. That said, the Celtics already had far more in Tatum, Brown, and White before adding KP and Holiday. The Knicks are starting with far less, then they traded key pieces of their success and lost guys in free agency. I
If KAT is going to be NY’s starting center then that Knicks paint defense will be nonexistent. Boston’s starting backcourt duo of White & Holiday are both better rim protectors than KAT who is 7’. Boston clearly has the better starting five regardless of it being Horford or Porzingis at the 5.
@@MistaWordz not really. Boston’s five are elite on both ends while KAT & Brunson can and will get exploited on defense. Also the gaps between Tatum-OG and Brown-Hart are pretty significant. Edit: Leon Rose and that NY front office has done great in rebuilding that roster but let’s wait and see how that starting five actually looks on the court before trying to compare them to the five that just won a championship.
@@erikthredd2628 The gap between Brown and Hart is significant, but Tatum and OG are closer than people give credit for. The gap between Brunson and Jrue is also pretty significant.
@@MistaWordz Tatum has three straight All-NBA first teams plus one year on the 3rd team. Offensively Tatum is significantly better than OG, JT averages 23.1ppg for his career while OG is at 12/g. Tatum has every opposing defense locked in one him every single game while OG is really at best a 3rd-5th option in NY. The defense between the two is much closer. Brunson is not significantly better than Jrue, who might be the best "all around" player in basketball. If Brunson was so much better than Jrue than HE would have been on Team USA and not Jrue. NY's five has potential but until they actually prove it on the court, this debate is honestly pretty silly from my perspective so I’ll end my part in it here.
@@erikthredd2628 Team USA wasn't about who was better. It was about what the team needed. They already had 3 of the greatest scorers ever in LeBron, KD, and Steph. Everybody else on the team was also a 20+ ppg scorer in the NBA. What they needed was perimeter defenders that weren't gonna take the ball out the "real superstars" hands. Trae, Kyrie, Brunson, Ja, Spida, Dame, Maxey, and Fox are all "better" than Jrue and White, but they weren't what the team needed. I guess by that logic, Jrue and DWhite are better than Jaylen Brown too?
Celtics have a pair of elite two-way wings, the best defensive backcourt and the 🦄 who was recently given a "A" rating for best centers ranking. Boston any day, everyday baby 🍀
We are gonna lock down your wings. Brunson has already owned your backcourt. Listen to these guys, they are pointing to other teams Suns, lmao. “ This is what they want us to to believe “ ok conspiracy
@bromero2006 Hey, I love Brunson. He plays with a lotta heart. But he doesn't own our back court. 4-1 Celtics over NY this past season remember? Looking forward to Oct 22. We shall see who prevails, but I got my money on my 🍀
@@Robin-xt7yo Have you thought of the impact KAT and Bridges has on how you play him. You can no-longer zero in on him. Also u have to look at last seasons NYK team in 2 parts with OG and without. We smacked you guys with OG. Total false sense of security to look at anything that happened btw NY & BOS last year. NYK upgraded big time
@@wannabegolfin24-72 I meant far as we don’t know what the Knicks team is because they’ve never played together. No chemistry like Boston. That’s off. Go back to your hole
Brown & Tatum have never had problems with OG or mikal. Have you forgotten that we have two ALL NBA defenders in our starting lineup & the no2 defense last year?
Why even ask this question because this is a Celtic vlog ? We know what your conclusion will be. Now as a Knick fan I’m going to say let’s wait and see how it plays out ? You might be right in your analysis or you might be wrong ? So armchair analysis I’m not willing to do at this point.
Its perfectly reasonable to believe the Celtics have the better team but all of your reasons for why made no sense at all. Which tells me you dont actually believe it, your just a homer.
😂😂😂this guy is actually saying it's going to take time then compares it to the warriors team with KD who ran threw the leauge while not having continuity 😂😂 the bodton cope is next level 😂😂 to be honest the knicks could have bullied the celtics last year because they are mentally soft. Minus holiday they have zero grit and it's about to get ugly this year
😂😂😂😂 the delusion is crazyyyy the same 2 guys they were trying to trade for 3 years are now the best duo in the NBA😂😂 good grief charley brown 😂😂 you didn't face the sixers bucks or knicks and beat a hurt heat team 😂😂 You played Cleveland and Indiana then played the mavs in the finals 😂😂. You'll take tatum over who? 😂😂 how many 40 point playoff games does tatum have? 4 brunson had 4 in 1 series 😂😂 tatums avg is what 25 brunson is 28? Tatum shoots what from 3? 36% brunson is what 40? He's who's more clutch who's got better handles who's IQ is better who tougher who's more of a leader? And Tatum jassssonnn Tatum is better than who? 😂😂 yup boston has that 1986 crack still floating around apparently. I'm what world is that starting 5 better. Everyone on the starting 5 for the knicks avgs more shoots better from deep has a better fg % and is a better defending to who's a better at rebounding... time to face the music fellas I respect the stiff upper lip but let's face facts the knicks are actually atleast on paper a better team top to bottom than boston
In what world? The knicks avg more assist more shoot better defend better rebound better ? I'm what area are the celtics more talented. Brunson is better than tatum stop it bridges and brown are the same Kat is better than KP OG is a bigger stronger holiday with longer arms who shoots better from deep. Actually we literally took your blue print you went and got holiday we got OG the upgraded younger version you went and got KP we got the bigger stronger better shooting version with KAT 😂😂.. tell me outside of white who is your best shooter who shoots better than hart. (Time will tell) he out hustles defends and rebounds better than white😂😂 deuce Payne shamet and kolek is a better bench than yours😂😂 so where is exactly the Cs are more talented? More household names yes but talented? 😂😂😂
Bobby marks still salty the celtics fleeced him in his time with the nets.
Bruh they saying teams with new players needs adjustment before winning (like the Suns & the Bucks) but Celtics have 2 new players/ starters last season and won. What Knicks got are the same players that what the Celtics got as well. The “right fit”. Both Jrue and KP are the right fit and missing pieces for them to get over the hump and win the championship. It’s the same with the Knicks. I believe both Mikal and KAT are missing pieces for them to win it all. And if these 2 teams meet in the conference finals. Who ever has the healthier team will win.
Bro exactly 💯🔥, they r 🤡🤡🤡
Facts. It's HEALTH that's gonna be the main factor...all this talk is non-sense. On paper, right now, Celtics got the edge...but it's a long and full season and let's see how it plays out first because one or two key players from either side that gets hurt will impact the whole team. I feel the Knicks have upgraded tremendously and can compete with Celtics now - I'm excited.
You do know that the Celtics already eliminated a healthy new Knicks twice from the play offs in the past already by Tatum & Brown. Oh and let's not forget that a healthy Joel embiid got eliminated 3 times in the playoffs by Jason tatum
@@earthandwater9011the healthy “new” Knicks with KAT and Mikal have not played together. What the heck are u even talking about.
I agree that the 2 pieces the Knicks added are good for them. That said, the Celtics already had far more in Tatum, Brown, and White before adding KP and Holiday. The Knicks are starting with far less, then they traded key pieces of their success and lost guys in free agency. I
Boston literally imported 2 starters 😅 last season.
they have 5 all star -sub all star level players and it is just unfair.
The buck stops here Knicks are.. comin 😮
Comin for another 2nd round exit
If KAT is going to be NY’s starting center then that Knicks paint defense will be nonexistent. Boston’s starting backcourt duo of White & Holiday are both better rim protectors than KAT who is 7’.
Boston clearly has the better starting five regardless of it being Horford or Porzingis at the 5.
@@erikthredd2628 Brunson > Jrue
Mikal >/= White
OG < Brown
Hart < Tatum
KAT >/= KP
It's about even.
@@MistaWordz not really. Boston’s five are elite on both ends while KAT & Brunson can and will get exploited on defense. Also the gaps between Tatum-OG and Brown-Hart are pretty significant.
Edit: Leon Rose and that NY front office has done great in rebuilding that roster but let’s wait and see how that starting five actually looks on the court before trying to compare them to the five that just won a championship.
@@erikthredd2628 The gap between Brown and Hart is significant, but Tatum and OG are closer than people give credit for. The gap between Brunson and Jrue is also pretty significant.
@@MistaWordz Tatum has three straight All-NBA first teams plus one year on the 3rd team. Offensively Tatum is significantly better than OG, JT averages 23.1ppg for his career while OG is at 12/g. Tatum has every opposing defense locked in one him every single game while OG is really at best a 3rd-5th option in NY. The defense between the two is much closer.
Brunson is not significantly better than Jrue, who might be the best "all around" player in basketball. If Brunson was so much better than Jrue than HE would have been on Team USA and not Jrue.
NY's five has potential but until they actually prove it on the court, this debate is honestly pretty silly from my perspective so I’ll end my part in it here.
@@erikthredd2628 Team USA wasn't about who was better. It was about what the team needed. They already had 3 of the greatest scorers ever in LeBron, KD, and Steph. Everybody else on the team was also a 20+ ppg scorer in the NBA. What they needed was perimeter defenders that weren't gonna take the ball out the "real superstars" hands.
Trae, Kyrie, Brunson, Ja, Spida, Dame, Maxey, and Fox are all "better" than Jrue and White, but they weren't what the team needed. I guess by that logic, Jrue and DWhite are better than Jaylen Brown too?
As a Knicks fan, I am very happy with the off-season moves.
Cool
How many teams actually repeat ?! Now that’s the real question. Knicks fan here but it should be a fun season for both teams
This is so funny - Its going to be a great opening night.
Yea it was lol
U have 2 players/wings that can lock down any players in the league
Kyrie and Luka over Brown and Tatum.
We can lock down your Duo
No you fucking can’t 😂😂😂
@@tim.noonan Our wing defensive rating and opponent FG% says otherwise. They are well know for being able to guard, plenty of evidence of that.
@@bromero2006 Okay. Celtics in 5.
Can you?
@@bromero2006 BUT THE OPPONENT’S FG%!!!!
Don’t ever compare the Knicks to the Celtics again 🤡
Celtics have a pair of elite two-way wings, the best defensive backcourt and the 🦄 who was recently given a "A" rating for best centers ranking. Boston any day, everyday baby 🍀
We are gonna lock down your wings. Brunson has already owned your backcourt. Listen to these guys, they are pointing to other teams Suns, lmao. “ This is what they want us to to believe “ ok conspiracy
@bromero2006 Hey, I love Brunson. He plays with a lotta heart. But he doesn't own our back court. 4-1 Celtics over NY this past season remember? Looking forward to Oct 22. We shall see who prevails, but I got my money on my 🍀
@@Robin-xt7yo Have you thought of the impact KAT and Bridges has on how you play him. You can no-longer zero in on him. Also u have to look at last seasons NYK team in 2 parts with OG and without. We smacked you guys with OG. Total false sense of security to look at anything that happened btw NY & BOS last year. NYK upgraded big time
@@bromero2006 yup, the knicks upgraded big time, and they will give the celtics heartburn for sure. But I gotta put my money on my celtics.
@@Robin-xt7yo yea, i look fwd to some great games!
Knicks fan here. Boston is better as of now.. Knicks still have to gel and find chemistry. Should be fun
As of now????😂😂😂 the celtics just won the title in historical fashion. They're better than the knicks until the knicks beat them in the playoffs.
@@wannabegolfin24-72 I meant far as we don’t know what the Knicks team is because they’ve never played together. No chemistry like Boston. That’s off. Go back to your hole
Knicks have 2 wings that are probably top 10 in the league who can lock down anyone and now with Kat in the line up Celtics should be worried
Brown & Tatum have never had problems with OG or mikal. Have you forgotten that we have two ALL NBA defenders in our starting lineup & the no2 defense last year?
@wannabegolfin24-72 blah blah blah 😑 what are you talking about Celtics never played them both at the same time
You want to compare wings with Boston?
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@@AS-is4dt how bought getting a life instead of reading comments from a month ago
Knicks rookies look nice.
So much that the Celtics signed Shapintsev .
Knicks scouts
are better.
We got Maurice Cheeks on staff.
Boston would beat the Knicks even without Kp… this Knicks squad is all time overrated
Knicks in 5.
@@anthonywilliams2179 maybe in 2k but in the real world, Celtics in 5….out of respect.
@@anthonywilliams2179 you said Mavs in 5 before
@JAXTWIN highlight this bro.... see u in a few months
@Jjhawkk absolutely false
Celtics for sure
Why even ask this question because this is a Celtic vlog ? We know what your conclusion will be. Now as a Knick fan I’m going to say let’s wait and see how it plays out ? You might be right in your analysis or you might be wrong ? So armchair analysis I’m not willing to do at this point.
Its perfectly reasonable to believe the Celtics have the better team but all of your reasons for why made no sense at all. Which tells me you dont actually believe it, your just a homer.
Taking Tatum over Brunson is crazy
Lol.. Brunson isn’t even better than Jaylen Brown let alone Jayson Tatum 🤣🤣
Lmao you think brunson is better than Tatum from one postseason run? Brunson will get exposed by the C's in the playoffs. Easy work
Lol. Two way versatile player > One dimensional player.
Boston fanatics
Boston, without question.
😂😂😂this guy is actually saying it's going to take time then compares it to the warriors team with KD who ran threw the leauge while not having continuity 😂😂 the bodton cope is next level 😂😂 to be honest the knicks could have bullied the celtics last year because they are mentally soft. Minus holiday they have zero grit and it's about to get ugly this year
😂😂😂😂 the delusion is crazyyyy the same 2 guys they were trying to trade for 3 years are now the best duo in the NBA😂😂 good grief charley brown 😂😂 you didn't face the sixers bucks or knicks and beat a hurt heat team 😂😂
You played Cleveland and Indiana then played the mavs in the finals 😂😂. You'll take tatum over who? 😂😂 how many 40 point playoff games does tatum have? 4 brunson had 4 in 1 series 😂😂 tatums avg is what 25 brunson is 28? Tatum shoots what from 3? 36% brunson is what 40? He's who's more clutch who's got better handles who's IQ is better who tougher who's more of a leader? And Tatum jassssonnn Tatum is better than who? 😂😂 yup boston has that 1986 crack still floating around apparently. I'm what world is that starting 5 better. Everyone on the starting 5 for the knicks avgs more shoots better from deep has a better fg % and is a better defending to who's a better at rebounding... time to face the music fellas I respect the stiff upper lip but let's face facts the knicks are actually atleast on paper a better team top to bottom than boston
Holy glaze make sure you clean up
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Tatum & Brown are absolutely NOT the best duo in the NBA lmao. They have the best team but saying they are the best duo is delusional
They literally led the league in scoring two yrs ago & was at least top-5 last year. Who's better?
Who are the best duo then?
Tatum is the most overrated player in the NBA! SMFH
celtics in 3 dog... lmao
No hell no not even close now with horford maybe still think we deeper and more talented tbh
In what world? The knicks avg more assist more shoot better defend better rebound better ? I'm what area are the celtics more talented. Brunson is better than tatum stop it bridges and brown are the same Kat is better than KP OG is a bigger stronger holiday with longer arms who shoots better from deep. Actually we literally took your blue print you went and got holiday we got OG the upgraded younger version you went and got KP we got the bigger stronger better shooting version with KAT 😂😂.. tell me outside of white who is your best shooter who shoots better than hart. (Time will tell) he out hustles defends and rebounds better than white😂😂 deuce Payne shamet and kolek is a better bench than yours😂😂 so where is exactly the Cs are more talented? More household names yes but talented? 😂😂😂
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