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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- The Kuat Drive Yards Juggernaut had many iterations and was used by the Galactic Republic, the Galactic Empire, the Imperial Remnant, and the Rebel Alliance. However, this massive turbo tank became smaller with each new iteration. Let’s take a look at why this happened.
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This is what happens when you tell your defense contractor you want a sandcrawler with enough munitions to level a city, and enough speed to make road runner jealous
There's actually a point to its top speed, think about it not all planets are the same. The shows usually assumes earth like gravity but what about planets that are double or triple? Double alone would cut the speed by more than half making the beefy power plant have a meaning.
Rebel Alliance making use of Juggernauts make sense as they're not picky in using Clone Wars-era weaponry and equipment they can get their hands on in fighting the Galactic Empire.
Like the Y-wing
You make it like it's all vintage stone age era stuff , they were literally used about 10 to 20 years ago 😂🎉
Not to mention it was generally better than the equipment that the Empire had. Even the Empire themselves used this tank a lot of times, but mainly as a transport on penal worlds and thrall worlds full of slaves.
Empire didn’t retire these so when they do get their hands one it must feel like hitting the lottery
We are still using M2 Browning machine gun! If it works well don’t lay it off.
Heck, Empire probably uses the same detonators old republic used back in sith war
The Empire just wanted to take away the Juggernaut's jugger-nauts.
😂 good one.
It traded up from just running stuff over an crushing it flat or blowing them up for stepping on stuff an crushing it flat or blowing it up
The Double Cockpit design is famously used in the Puma Recon vehicle from the Wehrmacht. The Juggernaut Tank is basically the Puma Tank on Steroids and designed as a transporter because it also had the wheeled tank approach and was able to combat Tanks with it's 50mm Canon
interestingly, most of the large armored cars from that era had twin driver systems, not just the sdkfz 234. Some examples are the Italian AB-41, the French EBR
and similarly to the Puma and most other large ww2 vehicles, this thing was overkill :)
I wouldn’t say famously, but yes it was, the Puma did have a system like this. Although it is most similar to the French EBR, than the Puma.
@@astrolonim2032The Puma wasn’t exactly large. It’s a recon vehicle. That has wheels.
Wasn’t it the reconnaissance combat vehicle?
In the 70's and early 80's this vehicle would have had it's own show. Then a Christmas special with Kit from Knight Rider and the Duke boy's General Lee.
OG Juggernaut looks like a Gozanti cruiser with wheels instead of wings. Badass MF!
When a cruiser wants to go all wheel drive.
My first thought was cost cutting, the Empire focuses more on spreading the butter thinly.
Yet builds an ISD instead of a Venator a few Aretequins and carraks
@@ADB_UWIM_2807 Tarkin philosophy/doctrine I believe?
12:52 how is the Juggernaut not in line with the Tarkin Doctrine? I’d argue that it’s even more in line with it than the ATAT due to its firepower, defenses, and the amount of troops it could hold. It seems even more terrifying than an AT-AT which only has line of sight weapons while the Juggernaut has missiles, grenades, & line of sight weapons.
Tarkin Doctrine did involve a fair bit of "form over function"
And a giant rolling cube doesn't evoke the same kind of "lizard brain fear" as a giant four-legged walker.
And if all else fails: blame the discrepancy on some officer with an over-inflated ego and more influence than brains. This is the Empire, you can't go more than a dozen steps without one tripping you up.
Plus, like many things, the empire like cheap, replaceable things over awesome yet difficult to fix and produce things like the juggernaut. Maintenance must have been a nightmare with it and it could only be produced on shipyards, which already had their hands full with Star Destroyers. Plus, these guys were more difficult to get planet side. Needed a whole ass ship landing to get these guys on the ground. ATAT was deployable via Gozanti, and had less moving parts. So easier deployment and maintenance.
Also the Juggernaut couldn’t be used in urban areas like the AT-AT, hard to instil fear in a population from outside the city.
And no more Acilmators as landing ships, the A6 probably couldn’t be carried by a Gazonti.
I think they mean the newer, slimmed down imperial variant.
Not very Tarkin Doctrine adherent to reduce the size and firepower of a vehicle after all.
The thing would find itself right at home in 40k
Capitol Imperialis but less ridiculous
In 40k it would be classified as a "Light" vehicle. but if you mounted a church on top... now we're talking!
Maybe a flimsy Tau apc at most. Most Imperial ground vehicles employed by the Astartes and the Militarum are capable of confidently taking on the Juggernaut and have a solid chance at winning.
A clan of Jawas would _love_ to get their hands on an old Juggy! It would make a great sandcrawler.
No problems with angry tusken raiders anymore^^
@@steffent.6477 No Tuskens period. BOOM. Though in truth, Sand People tolerated the Jawas more than others due to both coming from Tatooine.
The wheel segments and suspension would have been caked with sand and would have been a pain to maintain
@@maxtermind5110 Possibly, but Jawas are industrious and have used sandcrawlers for thousands of years. Those used to be mining vehicles.
"I hate sand...it gets everywhere..." 😅 sorry, couldnt resist.@@maxtermind5110
My favorite vehicle ever honestly
Honestly, with how often the rebels ran understaffed, you load up supplies for this thing with only 100 rebeks and that would essentially be a mobile rebel base
What I find interesting is, that the A6 Juggernaut has 2 Variants. And those Variants just differ in Size. The one seen in TCW where Ahsoka stands on has 8 Wheels and not 10 and is also like just 2 times as long as the ATTE, even though the movie one is like for times as long as an ATTE.
Why make such a big size difference?
Probably the same reason the Empire made theirs smaller and lighter, the smaller 8 wheeler one could travel along narrower paths and on areas where the big one just couldn't go through without it being a massive hassle(think of that Ryloth episode where Windu's ATTE's were travelling along the edge of a mountain while the droids shoot at them). At least this is my reasoning for making 2 variants that only differ in size.
in legends it was actually two versions
the V5 was the smaller 8 wheeler
while the V6 was the big one
Makes sense to mean to allow more flexibility in deployment. Not all planets have the space for the big one
@@ducelasiberia2280 good point
@@ericzaiz8358 yeah, makes sense
yes, that would be the Hav a5 the smaller version of the A6 seen during the invasion of Kashykk.
"Boss, this tank is never gonna turn well..."
"Who said anything about turning? if we need another pass, they can just go all the way round!"
6:29 I don't know about any large utility vehicle with this design, but a swedish tank Stridsvagn 103 had a back facing second driver-radio operator so that it could quickly retreat from position using its high revese speed
A lot of fire ladder trucks will have a rear cab and steering axle, with a second driver. Allows them to make WAY tighter turns
imagine the terror you'd feel if you was trying to get away from this monstrosity on a speeder bike and it's actually trying to run you down and flatten you🤣🤣
yeah the combination of size and speed is terrifying
Go find an AT-AT an play Chicken with it .. That could be fun... An maybe bit funny too, especially if can make the AT-AT rear up like a horse an charge like an Elephant first while the Jug revs it's huge engine doin it's Monster Truck from Hell bit
Fast and the furious got nothing on this.
All you'd have to do is turn😂
Into the firing arc of the laser repeaters. @@xXCodeyXx
Such a bad ass tank “a mobil outpost” is a perfect description for it
I suggest videos on:
Comlinks
Shuttles
YT freighter series
Thermal detonators
RPS-6 rocket launcher
IN the Galactic Battlegrounds game, these were the top of the Rebel tech tree. once you had three or four of these with airspeeder cover you basically won. They could pretty much one-shot AT-ATs or shield walls.
I don't remember them one-shotting AT-ATs. They were equivalent to AT-ATs, and did well against any fortifications, like the other siege mechs, but they weren't that strong. Was there a tech for them I missed?
I don't remember them being able to one shot AT-ATs either. I still have AoE2 in space, er, I mean Galactic Battlegrounds, but it doesn't run right on Win 10. I kinda want to play it again just to see if I missed something with unit balance.
All praise to West End Games and the old D6 RPG for giving it a name and a life beyond the sketch!
They really don't get enough credit for giving names and pictures for a lot of things only barely mentioned in other media... of course, they don't really exist anymore, at least not where the SWRPG is concerned, so that may be part of it, but still.
D6>D20. I'll die on that hill. WEG forever. Hundreds of hours of great campaigns and great friends.
@@jamesh2321the WOTC version (Saga Edition) is okay despite being a horribly unbalanced mess, but it works well for players more familiar with actual Dungeons and Dragons rules than less mainstream TTRPG systems. Never had a chance to try the WEG version, though.
6:28 What came to mind was NASA`s Crawler Transporter vehicle that transports rocket parts to and from the launch site.
yes thank you
@@GenerationTech there are certain construction vehicle with a rear mount excavator arm where the driver’s seat swivels around to operate it…. And that control station allows for low gear maneuvering….
I also drove a road roller in german that had a wide bench seat, a steering while that slide to the left and right on a rail … instead of turning it around the wheel was detached, the bench seat pushed forward and flipped back…. Then the wheel was reattached to another rail “behind” the bench and the thing drove in reverse …. It was made so that the operator could go back and forth without turning, or looking over their shoulder, and the driver could sit on the edge of either side to get the rollers as close as possible to the sides of the road…. We were over their rebuilding the tank trails at Hohenfels Army Base and they stuck three of us in the cab and had us going back and forth packing down the road bed all day
The other thing you MIGHT be thinking of is on the show Ice Road Truckers one of the episodes had them hauling a rather large piece of mining equipment on a trailer with two ends with a truck mounted in the back to help spread the weight and provide reverse steer maneuvering
Actually, you can see NASA's Marion Crawler Transporter at 11:18! It was the inspiration for the mobile mining facility in that episode of Bad Batch.
Ladder fire trucks had a rear cockpit for steering around corners that otherwise wouldn't be traverse-able with just front wheel steering.
Devs never should have nerfed Juggernauts. It’s the one unit the rebels had that was somewhat ok eventhough us empire players always had superior turrets…. For those that have read this far, I am referring to an old mobile game called Star Wars: Commander. I kinda miss that game quite a bit.
You dug an old wound there.
An imagine a game of Chicken with a Rebel Clone Wars Era Jug Tank crew vs a Imp AT-AT Crew
Ngl I was thinking you were referring to recent Helldivers 2 nerfs, cause that’s basically been what everyone’s been saying about _insert weapon name here_
You cut me deep with that one. Oh I remember.
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I first thought resistance to a Jedi mind trick went down to the individual . . Could individual human have resistance to a mind tricks some. Maybe more to kinds mind tricks like chemical or convictions . Or training or over exposure.
Maybe a sith mind trick would simply be adding pain for disagreeing . With them negative emotions
Such a fun design. I'm glad it endured. Would be fun to see one converted as an exploration craft.
Alan, could you maybe do a video on logistics for different factions in Star Wars? Lore for logistics is extremely lacking.
Please talk more about the logistics vehicles too. They're quite underrated, especially in Star Wars. I've heard of this Masive starship freighter that uses energy boubles to enclose the cargo, and it's so long and heavy it can't be bothered to do a full stop, so the cargo have to be taken out while it's moving.
I need to revisit it to be sure.
Edit: Yup, it exists
honestly seem that the Empire look at logistic as the RL Imperial Japanese Army look at it...aka something for pussy, that not bring honor and glory and can be done by the most idiot of the soldiers while the real men do the fight
Please make a video on 200 First Order Stormtroopers vs 200 Clone Troopers
It's actually one of my favorite vehicles, just because it looks cool and lives up to its name.
Been looking for a review of the Juggernaut, definitely looking to test drive one when I got some spare time!
I just want a new Empire at War with Rebellion starting right after Ep III
Scavanging old tech and clone wars cast offs
Recruit alien freedom fighters, pay for an array of one mission/job mercs/smugglers/pirates
Empire works on paid dev cycles for different arms corporations and picking between different imperial supported projects, maybe excavating ancient sith relics or technologies for reverse engineering in Palps secret programs.
How'd I get on this again?
Oh right
Would love to see Wookiees and rebels in and atop a Juggernought blasting everything they have 🎉
I kinda want a new version OF rebellion, the 'death by 1000 clicks' RTS game that came before EaW and is mostly forgotten... but I loved it.
love these, thanks man
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Yeah 3 pointing this thing would be a challenge even to the best big rig drivers
You are apart of those star wars channels that can give facts, and well thought out ideas and opinions
@1:25 How dare Allen not mention frog mommy
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I think it was the Boeing long loader dual-driver truck for used for longer than usual loads that are longer than the initial length of the trailer
One of the truck that win the Dakar race in the 80s had dual cabin and 1220hp
And 240kph top speed on sand 😂😂
The DAF 3300 4x4 “Tweekoppige Monster”?
@@akilaes was thinking of the daf turboTwin
Same team ran both
I really used to have this toy, such a great purchase wish I still had it
Allen, can you imagine someone making a 1:1 scale model for this??? I mean it would be like a huge house.
More like 2 houses for most people... half a football field long... (almost). 50 yards is 150 feet, that's the size of a standard lot in a suburban subdivision... that includes the front and back yard AND the house.
The A5 variant of the Juggernaut made it into the the Imperial Sourcebook for West End Games' Star Wars RPG, which also gave us the Interdictor Cruiser.
I am glad someone tells the ins and out of things that don’t make sense like yes why was the empire ones smaller and less armed and that there is two versions of the smaller one thank guys I watch everyday now for years and never disappoint never !!
Now that is one hell of a recreational vehicle!!
I've been loving the thumbnails and the visuals on these last few videos!
That concept art is awesome
I think I first learned about it in the Old Star Wars Encyclopedia by Slavicek, then later in various games of the prequel era. I want to say one of the old sourcebooks had not only the juggernaut tank but also the HAWR Flying Fortress as well which is basically a juggernaut that can fly.
Some firetrucks have a dual cockpit for controlling the back half
The turbo truck mention with the two cabin is the DAFF Turbo twin for the Paris Dakar
i would love to see this thing in andor.would perfectly fit the overwhelming feeling of dread the empire has in that show.
Well it was in rogue one (imperial version)
imagine if Rex, Wolf and Gregor had this in Rebels
some real determination from adam to be sharing this info while a strafing run goes on behind him
Ever seen a Big Trak? It was an 80’s toy that was remade recently. Only six wheeled but looks very similar.
Heck yeah, new video
Hearing the charlie whoooooo made me laugh
The 1984 DAF 3300 4x4 “Tweekoppige Monster” was a race truck that had a cab in the front and one in the rear.
Double cockpit is similar to some trucks in fire departments. The 5th wheel ladder trucks have a guy steering the ass end.
Really appreciate the BTS info alongside the lore.
This to me is probably the most dangerous land vehicle we've seen in the Star Wars series so far because of how lethal even the frame is unintentionally
The Juggernaut would’ve been an excellent vehicle to use in a desert planet
It's because Kuat Drive Yards had their machines set to m for mini, when they should've been set to w for wumbo.
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I wonder if such a thing would be able to factually be made, while not with star wars weapons, we have other weapons. I highly doubt it would be able to be used very much though because of its size and weight.
You could build it sure. The question is would the ground pressure let it go anywhere without sinking or destroying the road.
@russianbear0027 yeah also the way all of these sinkholes just been opening up randomly lately out of nowhere i doubt earth could hold it up for very long...
I know it says on paper it was taller than an at at but if you look at the scenes with it in it comparing its size to clones on the ground next to it and then the at at to luke in episode 5 the at at is definitely much taller. Also at like 5 mins you can see the at te is about the same hight as the juggernaut. And in rebels you seen the at te is much smaller than an at at
The juggernauts are probably my all-time favorite transport ground vehicles in star wars.
Finally covered this monstrosity! Always been one of my favorite “Oh yeah this exists, anyways” vehicles of the Star Wars universe
listening this guy talk about fantasy warfare the way car bros talk about their rigs over a couple beers has been the highlight of my day
To be fair, even with that insane ten-wheel independent suspension, the only way you are getting 99 mph is on a hard surface road in a straight line.
Anything else bends physics more than hyperspace.
I still never seen those "Spiders." On that Mandalorian show😂🤦🏽♂️
Thanks to you I want 12 of these now
Bill burr in Star Wars always cracks me up lol
The Juggernaut really just screams "I made a huge rover in Kerbal Space Program."
12:31 There was a mini tank in Legend. A5-RX Battle Tank. It appeared in
Star Wars Battlefront: Renegade Squadron/Elite Squadron.
The Clone Wars Comic 6.18.
The Juggernaut Tank is my most favorite ground vehicle in the Clone Wars. It's a badass weapon but me only problem that makes me angry is that it is not given enough screentime. Like seriously, WHAT'S THE POINT OF MAKING AN AWESOME WAR MACHINE LIKE THIS IF NO ONE'S GONNA USE IT RIGHT AND GIVE IT SCREENTIME!?
Post Clone Wars, a repurposed Juggernaut would make a great Planetary exploration vehicle for studying a newly discovered World.
Replace the troop capacity and some of the weapons (maybe) with science labs and long term accommodations and it can take a team on a long tour across a continent, with regular stops to take samples and examine the biosphere and local geology in fine detail.
And if any of the local life turns out to be giant monsters, that's where the weapons and armour come in handy.
For heavy warfare, the GAR should have made some variants. A big shield generator like the Gungans used at Naboo would be a great addition to large troop formations.
Imagine one moving at speed to provid cover to a raiding force as they advanced over open ground - such a vehicle could have prevented thousands of Clone causalities at the first battle of Geonosis.
The chassis could easily hold the weight, and if the troop capacity is reduced then most of the Shield generator can be kept within the hull.
Another variant is of course the BFG mounted on top. Slap the heaviest weapon you can fit in the biggest turret that can be mounted, and you're one shotting anything on the battlefield.
A heavy Turbolaser or ion cannon from a capital ship seems appropriate.
I loved that thing, i never really knew mutch about it but when i saw it in revenge of the sith i loved it
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the German Fuchs APC has two cockpits/driver positions--when you need to bug out, turning around is a waste.
It's the jug-ah-nawt, b____!
I first remember seeing a Jugg in the old Imperial Sourcebook from West End Games where it might be described as a wheeled AT-AT that could travel one heck of a lot faster. There it's given an A5 designation.
My thought is that the bemouth in Clone Wars may really be too big although it you look at is a mobile base then maybe not so much.
Large armored cars in WWII sometimes had a reverse driver's position.
But modern Lucasfilm relies on those old sketches too much. And they’re also doing it to be cheap.
Colin Cantwell didn’t even know his old Star Destroyer design sketch was being used for Solo (although the scene was later deleted). A fan pointed out a diecast toy of it released for the movie before Cantwell even knew they were using his design. He wasn’t paid or credited. Probably why they named the design for him when it appears in Andor.
But hardly any if the modern designs hold a candle to OT designs. Just updated X-Wings and reverted TIEs and BB-8.
Look at the sets of that starship interior in the opening scene of Ahsoka. Empty and looks like it’s made from soft foam.
There's a reason some of those old sketches weren't used.
I see this more as a comparison of the LMTV vs the MTV.
Although one is definitely has a a load out like a Stryker...
Seeing the size comparison between the Juggernaut and the AT-AT, the Juggernaut is a more intimidating vehicle than the AT-AT due to its sheer size alone.
It had to be nerfed once the garflunk snarfled the himmelfarb of Larnach in Dunedin.
The Juggernaut isnt even the only vehicle in Star Wars with double cockpit systems. There's the Oprhanmaker gunship from the Jedi-Sith Wars in Legends, but im sure there's another design like that somewhere in the galaxy.
It looks pretty nice in live act 🤭
Video Summary For Those On a Time Crunch:
Kuat drive yards manufactured this massive tank for the clone wars, and it was OP. In was maxxed out on all stats. It was taller than an AT-AT, it was so fast it could catch up with a speeder. It had loads of guns and almost no blind spots. This could carry 300 men, and with a crew of 12, had consumables for 20 days, for the 312 people on board.
The Empire found this too expensive to maintain. With the clone war over, it was impossible to justify the cost in peacetime, so the empire designed a much lighter tank that could only carry 125 people.
so question for people how would you improve on the A 6 for the republic vs the empire? i'd take away some of that 200 extr atone of cargo to install a sheild generator for that extra survivability, maybe a few more smaller rocket/ grenade pods aswell
I always thought the rear cockpit was the front.
4:00 Allan, this is the rest of the world. The world, this is Allan
For a vehicle with independently driven wheels, it should be able to do zero turning radius similar to a treaded tank or modern riding lawn mower.
With that wheel base? A modern tank trying that zero turn is going to churn up a lot of ground under its tracks. Those zero-turn riding mowers area almost always driven by a pair of wheels the basically casters on the other end that could turn all the way round thus essentially turning on a single axle.
Best case for one of those turning is independent steering on each wheel/axle so you can swing the back out while the front turns the other way.
"Flat disc world" LOL
Dual cockpits on the NASA crawlers, might be what you remembered
Just imagine the heat generated by this thing's brakes! It'd be enough to reignite a dying star.
YES JUGGERNAUTS!!! (Thanks Allen) this is the best ground vehicle in Star Wars nothing beats this thing I bet it could run in to the AT AT and would only be scratched
The Jug Tank basically seems like a HUGE Militarized Monster Truck...
Pretty sure we watched it drive at high speed while being SO BIG an drive OVER an area an someone an NOT hit them...
Leave them wondering why everything suddenly flashed dark for a sec as they carried on with the battle