사람들이 흔히 뭔가 착각하는게 있음. 마법소녀, 히어로들이 사람들을 구하기 위해 있는 존재라고 틀에 박힌 생각을 하는 이들이 있다. 그들이 지구를 지키는 이유는 본인의 평범한 일상을 유지하고 살아가기 위해서이다. 본인이 평범한 일상을 사는데에 방해되는 존재를 굳이 도와주어야할 이유가 있는지? 본인의 업보라고 생각하길
It honestly doesn’t matter whether the girl falls or not. The girl decided to spend time literally traumatizing someone else day in and day out. If that traumatized person hesitates in a moment where they’re given the option to save their abuser, I couldn’t really blame them. No one could truly understand being in a situation like that unless they were actually in it.
MochiOnAPlate where in their comment did they include the girls in the vid’s age... both girls in the vid are highschoolers and their comment is in general so ur comment makes no sense
@@icy.diamond nono i get what u mean it's just.. u cant expect the girl she was bullying who was also a highschooler herself to think that in the 5 seconds she had to save her yk
@@ellal3554 thats not the point. They're saying that it would make sense for her to hesitate. This girl has always bullied her and now her brain is trying to make a choice based not only on morals but logic. But yes, regardless, it would weigh a heavy price considering she would probably watch her fall to her death.
So in my opinion, I don't think she let her fall. I believe she did just think about letting her fall , thinking of she deserved it. But in the end it seems like she snaps out of it (hence the gasp and eye shrinking) and goes to save her
Or maybe she watched her die. I'm pretty sure she's been doing the magical girl bit for a while now, so something like saving somebody would surely not weigh on her enough to make her eyes dilate from doing it every time. But, watching somebody perish would.
@@Medachod Hm, to me it was the fact that she ran through every memory in her head of that girl being a bully to her. She probably went into a mindset where her demons are whispering into her ear. Telling her to let her fall, saying she deserved it. But once the bully cries out when she's about to fall she snaps out of it and decides to save her. Because even if she deserved it, it's not how a hero is.
It isn’t the girl’s duty to save the girl. Most “magical girls” don’t get paid and she is sacrificing her time to be a hero. She is already taking responsibility of her powers by not punishing her bully in school, but you guys are requiring her to save someone that tormented her. Like LOOK at her: 0:53. A lot of y’all are saying you wouldn’t have let her fall if you were the magical girl, but all of you haven’t been in the same situation. I’m not saying not rescuing her is the right option, but I’m saying the magical girl shouldn’t be blamed for letting her fall. If she did rescue her though, that deserves a lot of praise. Heroes get criticism easily for making mistakes because they’re “the ones that hold power”, when a lot of the time, they hold no social power at all. Normal people can give a lot of criticism without much thought because they know that they aren’t responsible for lives, so whatever they say, they say it lightly. But that magical girl exists because she can save herself AND others while some people can only save themselves or aren’t even able to that. She has to live with the guilt as well as her responsibilities of having great physical power and criticism, not to mention sacrificing her time. I really feel bad for her, and I think you should have more compassion for her instead of judging her choices because this applies to real life as well. Y’all should know how sick utilitarianism can be sometimes.
이걸 보면서 만화나 영화에서 나온 정통적인 정의감을 현실에 대입하기 힘든 이유를 알것같다. 누가 영상에 나온 사람을 구하고 싶을까? 나라도 자신을 괴롭힌 사람을 살리고 싶다긴 보단 정반대의 생각을 할것 같음. 무조건 구하자는 마음먹기가 상상이상으로 어렵다고 이 영상을 보면서 생각함.
Lesson of this video: Never underestimate/bully those who "looks" like a weak "bug", cause this "weak bug" will never lend you a hand if you're in trouble in the future. Seriously. STOP! BEING! A! FREAKING! BULLY! 💢💢💢
My old classmates WILL bully everyone, and the only way to stop them is to show agression or brag that you're really rich (fake or not) and they'll suddenly kiss your ass the next day... weirdly enough thats how i get some of my friends
@@kageinu8429 Well atleast you know that they only friend because of your money. But you better be careful tho' cause you might get a surprise "attack". You know prank, backstabbing, etc. I mean they might know but using you for the right time to reveal your secret.
Kitten Mimi Of course not. But if I were to let her die, that just means that I’m just as bad as her. Just because she treated me that way doesn’t mean I should let myself become even worse than her and leave her to die.
@whole damn titty Well that necessarily isn't a bad thing since she should then understand that she should stop bullying and even if she doesn't, you can't make everyone happy but you can always try your best.
Amazing video! I absolutely love the animation style and it’s colours, they really set the mood well. I also like how the story sparks a discussion on the basis of morality. Warning: Long stupid post below that I just felt the need to write Morality is a tricky thing, it differs for each person in different scenarios. There are two victims in this video, one is a person who can’t stand up for herself (lack of confidence, it’s hard being confident in this situation especially if the bully has a posse with her), the other is a bully who’s on the verge of death. Death is seen as morally wrong, yes, but it begs the question, are YOU really responsible for the lives of others? Should every life be saved? For every death, is it your fault? The problem this animation poses is that the girl (a magical hero) goes through a lot of trauma and has a chance to save or leave the cause of their trauma to die. They pose a lot of scenarios that may potentially happen. A. She saves the bully. Said bully will be thankful but that doesn’t mean she’ll change. The bully victim may have to suffer through her abuse. To all those belittling the victim by saying she could just “stand up” if she wanted to, it’s extremely hard when you’re the one being bullied, literally no one will help (even if they wanted to) and you feel like you’re alone and try to put up with it because who knows how worse they’re gonna get if you stood up to the bully. This could potentially lead to the magical girl’s death via suicide which could mean loss of her life and civilians won’t be saved too. Will the bully feel sorry. It’s too late at this point. B. She saves the bully and she changes her ways. Who knows what’s the story behind the girl. Maybe she has a rough family life and throws all her urges on the girl. Maybe the magical girl will reveal who she really is and she’ll change her ways? This is often the argument for deciding to help people - second chances are given to everyone, and killing people is wrong. C. She lets the girl die and be able to get a more peaceful life and regrets it. D. Let’s the girl die, regrets nothing, has a more freer life, potentially save a lot of bully victims from her hands. Dead girl’s family is either happy or mourning for their lost daughter. But if it’s a family mourning for their daughter and proves to be morally good people, does that really make her morally good if she’s bullying someone to a bad extent while living a good life? Another question it asks is should the girl, a magical hero who’s saved countless of people but herself, be judged when not helping a girl who bullied her for a long time to the point she’s traumatised and compelled to not lend a helping hand? You can argue yes because she’s a magical hero, she needs to save people. So then, what if there’s a dilemma where it’s between her life or another who is responsible for traumatising her and there is no other choice (ie magic won’t help)? Should she sacrifice herself or the bully? There is no right answer. We often tell people to do something we consider “morally right” but will it benefit the person we’re scolding? We usually are concerned with the future but rarely the present. It’s easy for the observer to call out the decider. I don’t think what this girl did is morally right, but I believe if I was in her shoes where the decision is time-limited, I would have not moved due to the temptation of freedom, making the same decision as her.
Yep. To save or not to save both choices are wrong and right at the same time. As you said... by not helping it makes me the bad guy but who cares... they're mean to me, and it's not like it turns me evil if I'm still kind to everyone else and also it helps prevent future victims
Yes this! This is a big moral dilemma to think over, much less as a snap decision. In the clip, the magical girl is so clearly just paralyzed by the situation. She could very well intend to save everyone, but seeing her bully be the one to save threw her a big enough mental block that she couldn't work past it in time. I see a lot of comments calling this girl reprehensible for "choosing" for her to die and basically killing her. But she has no resentment in her eyes, she doesn't turn away. She's clearly snapped out of the state she's in by what seems to be the scream of the girl falling to her death- she had made no decision here, she was thrust into a state of heavy dissociation by the heavy emotional stress caused by this situation.
@@sublimelemon5444 i feel like its difficult for neurotypical people to understand this issue and they decide to project their own shallow principals and ideas of morality on the situation because they genuinely believe that theres any sort of absolutes to the situation
The problem is that the girl wasn't the only one bullying her. She was just the ring leader, so there's no guarantee that her bully problems would be solved by letting her die and since she's in her magical girl form, even if she does save the bully, the bully probably won't recognize her as the girl she's been bullying, so she's damned regardless and might as well go save her just so she doesn't have the death of a person who might not be totally innocent but probably still didn't deserve to die on her conscience.
there are a lot of folks saying she deserved to fall but two wrongs don’t make a right. like- yeah she was a bully and bullying is wrong and very bad but the magical girl letting her fall (if she did but we don’t know bc it was a cliffhanger) was just stooping down to her level. also the style is so cute uwu edit, three years later: ew i can’t believe i said uwu unironically. also to revise this comment a bit, i don’t still think the magical girl letting the bully fall would be “stooping” i still think that’s as a hero, it’s her duty to save everyone, but i definitely get why she hesitates what given the option to save that piece of dirt.
saving the person who has emotionally, psychologically and physically crushed you only happens in anime. in reality, it's foolish to rescue someone whom, not only won't know you were the one who saved them, but also will bully you again after the rescue.
Moral of the story: Never bully someone or they'll turn out to be a magical girl no matter the circumstances and let you fall off a cliff due to a giant monster a rampaging around your town.
Never treat someone in a bad way when you don't know the future. You never know if that person's going to be in a position to change your life for the better or the worse one day, or be the only you can rely on...or maybe not so much anymore.
i think about this concept all the time! im glad someone made a short on it because its never expanded enough or hardly at all, at least in mainstream media to my knowledge. -
So my theory is like the magical girl scene was a metaphor for something else for example her being popular and the bully being mistreated while the pink haired girl just sits and watches?
I’m pretty sure the magical girl was the girl getting bullied. And that people should all be respected because you never know how that can effect you. But idk
Trash :l i think they mean that suddenly the girl who got bullied became more liked and popular, meanwhile the bully's reputation suddenly decreased to where she was the one getting bullied instead
It seems I have a different interpretation from most... I was under the impression that the ending of her just sitting at her desk meant all the rest was just her imagination, like, "They'd be sorry if I were a magical girl and a giant cat attacked the city. And when my bully was falling off a cliff, I'd wait until the last moment to decide whether or not to save her. That'd show them!"
Like one of the sayings go “what if the person you once bullied became the only doctor who could save your life?” By that I mean pretty much whatever you may do to someone in the past like treat them badly they won’t do any favours for you.
마법소녀가 몸이 굳음과 동시에 고민하고있는데 0:53 일때 가해자의 눈빛이 "넌 나를구해야되는데 왜 안구하는거야?" 하고 손바닥을 절벽쪽으로 해서 떨어지게되가지고 마법소녀가 놀란거같아요 물론 다 떨어지기전에 구했을수도 있지만 그 이후는 이걸보시는 여러분의 자유니까요 모두다는 아니지만 저였어도 가해자가 저렇게하고있으면 몸굳고 고민할거같네요 ┗(오타나 그런게 있다면 둥근말투로 얘기해주세요!☆) ┗(아직 어려서 오타가 많을수도 있어요 그렇게 많이 어리진 않은데 10대 중반?...) ┗(여기까지 제 생각을 끄적여봤어요) ┗(사실상 여기 있돈 댓글들 보고 저도 동의하고 그렇게 생각해서 끄적여보고싶었어요 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ) ┗(그럼 안녕히계세요!!☆)
자동반사 PTSD 심장이 뛰는 것도 불안에서 오는 긴장감. 해당 인물을 보자, 떠오른 속이썩는 기억. 그로인해 구해야하는 상황에서 멈칫. 시간이 끌리고.. 동공이 커진점은 방관하면 가해로부터 자유롭지 않을까 란 찰나의순간 계산까지 다 된것. 마법소녀가 선의로 일반대중을 구하는 것과 별개로 마법소녀는 누가 구하고 누구에게 기대나 그러니 때론 선탠적 정의도 용서받아 마땅해
It comes down to whether it's ok for the magical girl to judge whether someone deserves to be saved or not. Like if it was let's say a fireman, and a person-who-bullied-him's house was on fire, and he chose to just watch, then who's right or wrong.
I don’t believe she deserved to fall. She was just a kid, if she hadn’t fallen she would’ve had her whole life to change and mature. Most people aren’t the same as they were 7-5 yrs ago. :(
Things like bullying can lead people to kill them selves when they can’t handle it anymore. For her it might have been a choice of “should she die, or me?” And those choices are extremely hard. Even if we know that it’s the right thing to help people even if they have hurt us. It’s far too difficult to know if you are able to actually reach out a hand towards them when they need that help. Because that trauma they have inflicted on us, can make us unable to move. Is it cruel and terrible for her to let her fall then? Well yes if you only look at it from one point ot view. But if you see it from the view of a poor girl suffering from tremendous trauma that was unable to help even if she knew what she had to do, then it suddenly doesn’t look so black and white anymore.
Some of these comments... seriously if you guys seriously are relating to this fiction animation and say she deserves it, please reconsider that: somebody dying when you could save them could haunt you for years, if not your whole life while school bullying is a terrible thing to deal with (that happens/happened to many of us), it's only temporary and many of these mental scars you have can still be healed don't follow the school shooter logic and move on, you're better than that :))
안구한것도 있지만..그냥 가해자를 마주하자마자 마법소녀가 아니라 피해자로 변한 느낌이었다. 가해자는 모르지.. 피해자가 평생 짊어지고 가는 상처를...ㅠ
그런 해석이!!!
ㅇㅈ...ㅠㅠ
이건 올려드려야지
이게 맞다..
뭔가 비슷한 생각을 했는데..표현력이 저보다 더 높으시네요..ㅠ
저거 구할까 말까 망설인 게 아니라 그냥 가해자 보자마자 얼어버린 것 같은데...
표현력..,
확실히..가해자를 나중에 다시보면 얼어붙게 되죠..
@@나뭇잎-q9z 번쩍번쩍 가해자따라 찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리찌리
@오예린 아니 미친ㅋㅋㅎㅋㅎㅋㄱ쿄ㅛㅋㅎㅋㅎㅋㅋㅎㅋㅎㅋㅎㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
설명보세욥
마지막에 구해줄까말까 라고 망설인것보단 그냥 가해자를 보고 심장이 쿵쿵뛰면서 얼어붙은걸 표현한거같음.. 마지막에 쿵쿵거리는 심장박동 소리도 그렇고..
저는 아닌것같음
그래서 마법소녀 “ 두근두근 “
마법소녀가 누구나 구해야하는건 아니죠
맞습니다
ㅇㅈ 마법소녀는 선량한 사람들 구하고 나쁜 녀석를 벌 하라고 있는거지 사람 괴롭히는 나쁜 년놈 구하라고 있는건 아니니까요(네다씹....ㅎㅎ)
맞아요 돈도없고 생명보험도없는직업에
@@whatareyoufuckingdo 현실적ㅋㅋㅋ
마마마의 현실을 받아들여
마법소녀는 자기 할 일을 했습니다
착한 사람을 구하고
나쁜 사람에게 벌을 줬죠
우왕!!! 명언네요>♡
ㅇㅈ
맞아요! 괴물도 나쁘니까 죽인거
@김한별 으엉?성빼고 제이름 이랑 같군뇨..
벌이라기보단 가해자를 보고 얼어버린것같아요. 그때 기억 나면서 무서워서그런듯
사람들이 흔히 뭔가 착각하는게 있음. 마법소녀, 히어로들이 사람들을 구하기 위해 있는 존재라고 틀에 박힌 생각을 하는 이들이 있다. 그들이 지구를 지키는 이유는 본인의 평범한 일상을 유지하고 살아가기 위해서이다. 본인이 평범한 일상을 사는데에 방해되는 존재를 굳이 도와주어야할 이유가 있는지? 본인의 업보라고 생각하길
인정합니다.
아항
ㅇㅈ 그런거라면 괴물도 처치하면 안되지 ㅋㅋ 괴물들은 나쁘고 사람 왕따시켜서 자살로 몰아가는 나쁜놈은 착한거냐!!!!! 그렇기 때문에 살가치가 없는 존제는 굳이 구해줄 필요가 없죠
착각이 아니라 흔히 마법소녀물 설정이 사람들을 구해뢋!☆이런 거라 저것도 그런 듯
선도나 징계 안받고 저세상 간다고? 솔까 구하자.. 여주 맘도 어린듯해서 죄책감 느낄것같은데
그래..어느 누가 저런애를 구하고 싶겠어..저 와중 고민이라도 하는 주인공이 천사라고 생각하는데..제발 모른체 했다고 죄책감같은거 안 짊었음 좋겠다..ㅠ 저런걸로 결국 자신을 더 타락시킬텐데..
ㅇㅈ입니닷
ㅇㅈ요..
살릴 수 있었는데 살리지 않은 건 죄인지 아닌지 애매모호하긴 하죠 ㅠㅠ
@@user-ee5bd1iv6t 좀..그런면이 있긴하죠..저러다 죄책감에 시달릴까 주인공이 안쓰러워서 그래요..
난..지금 마법소녀인데 구할까?
왕따시켜서 구하고 싶지않아..어떡하지....?이랬을듯
댓글에 마법소녀의 행동이 옳다 그르다 따지는 논쟁있는 것만 봐도 보는 이로 하여금 고뇌하게 만들만큼 좋은 애니라는걸 알 수 잇네요+□+ 전 개인적으로 제가 마법소녀였다면 살리진 않을 것 같아요
That went from sailor moon to madoka magica real quick
Wow greatest comment in this section
I hate it that it true
By how it looks like in the end, she will soon become a witch
More of Magical girl site
Pastelribbons
Roses are Red,
Thorns are Prickly.
May I just say,
That escalated Quickly.
나였어도 가해자는 안 구했을듯..나를 계속 괴롭히던 앤데 쉽게 구하려고 하진 않을 것 같다
+ 여러분 여기서 싸우지 마세요ㅠㅠ 제 주관적인 생각입니다..
그래도 구해야한다~ 이 말입니다
나는구해줬을거같은데.. 그래도같은반친구인데ㅠㅠㅠ
하나님이죄는미워해도사람을 사랑하시라고했죠 그래서저는 도와줄래요
@@수호천사뾰미 과연 진짜 왕따를 당해도 그소리가 나올까요
@@양희수-j7e ㅇㅈ......이건 안당해본 사람은 모르고 학폭위 열어본 사람이 아닌이상 모른다.......
저기요..저3학년때부터계속왕따였어요 현재5학년이구요...
It honestly doesn’t matter whether the girl falls or not. The girl decided to spend time literally traumatizing someone else day in and day out. If that traumatized person hesitates in a moment where they’re given the option to save their abuser, I couldn’t really blame them. No one could truly understand being in a situation like that unless they were actually in it.
MochiOnAPlate where in their comment did they include the girls in the vid’s age... both girls in the vid are highschoolers and their comment is in general so ur comment makes no sense
She was still just a kid tho, she had her whole life to change and mature. Or would’ve-
@@icy.diamond nono i get what u mean it's just.. u cant expect the girl she was bullying who was also a highschooler herself to think that in the 5 seconds she had to save her yk
Letting someone die, no matter the person, would weigh on me forever. Including my racist bully.
@@ellal3554 thats not the point. They're saying that it would make sense for her to hesitate. This girl has always bullied her and now her brain is trying to make a choice based not only on morals but logic. But yes, regardless, it would weigh a heavy price considering she would probably watch her fall to her death.
솔직히 마법소녀로서 사람들을 구한것도 대단한거임 , 세상이 자기한테 해준게 뭐가있다고 그냥 자기 가족만 잘 먹고 잘 사는걸 바라서 자기 가족만 지킬수도 있었던걸 그렇기에 가해자를 보자마자 구할까 생각한 주인공이 대단하다고 느낀건 나 뿐일ㄲ . . ( ? )
저도요!
생각해보면 굳이 구해야 할필요 없음 ㅋㅋ
그림제 너무 예뻐요ㅜㅡㅠ 포근하면서도 깔끔한 그런..최고에요ㅜㅡㅠ
진짜 마법소녀물은 마마마 이전과 이후로 나뉘는듯... 이전에 나온 것들은 샤방샤방 꽃밭이었는데 이제는 그냥 마법소녀물의 탈을 쓴 고어+피폐+잔혹+치유물ㄷㄷ
ㄹㅇㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
치명적인 유해물
=치유물
마마마 이후로 피폐 마법소녀물만 나오니까 이제는 클리셰로 변질된 느낌
치명적인 유해 물질★
@io io 나왔어요 카드캡터 체리 !! 클리어 카드편 너무 치유됨...
So in my opinion, I don't think she let her fall. I believe she did just think about letting her fall , thinking of she deserved it. But in the end it seems like she snaps out of it (hence the gasp and eye shrinking) and goes to save her
Nah, she just went to do the Scar and Mufasa thing
Knights who say Ni! Yep
I think she just got frightened immediately when she saw her
Or maybe she watched her die. I'm pretty sure she's been doing the magical girl bit for a while now, so something like saving somebody would surely not weigh on her enough to make her eyes dilate from doing it every time. But, watching somebody perish would.
@@Medachod Hm, to me it was the fact that she ran through every memory in her head of that girl being a bully to her. She probably went into a mindset where her demons are whispering into her ear. Telling her to let her fall, saying she deserved it. But once the bully cries out when she's about to fall she snaps out of it and decides to save her. Because even if she deserved it, it's not how a hero is.
가해자한테 보복하면 너도 똑같은 사람 되는거다 뭐 이런말로 말리는데 걔도 나한테 나쁘게 하는데 왜 나만 참아야 되냐 걍 똑같이 나쁜사람하고 말지. 착하게 있어서 받는거라곤 괴롭힘 밖에 없는데.
제가 좋아하는 한 소설의 주인공이 늘 말하는게 있는데요
보복하면 너도 똑같은 사람이다 라는 말은 틀린 거고
'똥 치우는데 옷이나 손에 똥 묻는 건 당연한 일이다'가 맞대요
사람은 적당히 나빠야지 살아가는데 문제가 없죠
그러니까요 때린놈 때렸더니 너도 똑같은 사람 된거다... 이 논리는 도대체 이해가 안 가요 저새끼가 나 때렸으니까 나도 한대 때리겠다는데 뭐가 잘못된건지ㅡㅡ
It isn’t the girl’s duty to save the girl. Most “magical girls” don’t get paid and she is sacrificing her time to be a hero. She is already taking responsibility of her powers by not punishing her bully in school, but you guys are requiring her to save someone that tormented her. Like LOOK at her: 0:53. A lot of y’all are saying you wouldn’t have let her fall if you were the magical girl, but all of you haven’t been in the same situation. I’m not saying not rescuing her is the right option, but I’m saying the magical girl shouldn’t be blamed for letting her fall. If she did rescue her though, that deserves a lot of praise. Heroes get criticism easily for making mistakes because they’re “the ones that hold power”, when a lot of the time, they hold no social power at all. Normal people can give a lot of criticism without much thought because they know that they aren’t responsible for lives, so whatever they say, they say it lightly. But that magical girl exists because she can save herself AND others while some people can only save themselves or aren’t even able to that. She has to live with the guilt as well as her responsibilities of having great physical power and criticism, not to mention sacrificing her time. I really feel bad for her, and I think you should have more compassion for her instead of judging her choices because this applies to real life as well. Y’all should know how sick utilitarianism can be sometimes.
I don't think people deserve praise for rescuing predators. Letting a predator live endangers the lives of innocents.
I love the fact you really took time to write this
You worte a whole essay
What the anime call do you know it?
Lol your really about to kill someone because they threw paper at you.
이 영상은.. 맨날 사극 속의 임금이 잘못한 신하가 "죽을 죄를 지었습니다. 죽여주시옵소서 전하." 이러면 꼭 안 죽이는데 "음. 그래. 죽을 죄를 지었으면 죽어라." 하는 느낌.
표현력..
댓달아야지
well that was a big *CLIFFHANGER*
Nice one !
hahhaha excellent pun!
lolol
Oh God I'm dying
I mean Between the Lions made that joke first so
근데 마법소녀(?)가 일부러 안 구한게 아니라 약간..가해자라서 망설이다가 떨어지기 직전까지 가서 사람이 떨어져 죽는거니까 놀란것같아요..
可愛いイラストと内容の暗さのギャップほんとうに大好き
1:01ここの顔とか
@신지은 무슨 뜻임?
진짜 그림체 너무 따듯하고 제취향이에요... 진짜 이런분들이 우리나라에 있다는게 넘..넘...좃다... 사랑해요 진짜 적게일하고 많이버세요...
이걸 보면서 만화나 영화에서 나온 정통적인 정의감을 현실에 대입하기 힘든 이유를 알것같다.
누가 영상에 나온 사람을 구하고 싶을까? 나라도 자신을 괴롭힌 사람을 살리고 싶다긴 보단 정반대의 생각을 할것 같음. 무조건 구하자는 마음먹기가 상상이상으로 어렵다고 이 영상을 보면서 생각함.
이런 결말이어서 좋다 보통 이런 결말은 잘 안주던데
구했으면 살짝 짜증났을텐데 뭔가 시원한 느낌
Hmmm.....
So much anime relation in my memory after watch this
Nostalgi, dejavu, and sad
*Magical girls ore-*
What the heck just happened
노력한 부분이 너무 많이 느껴진다. 이런 풋풋함이 필요한건데
“An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind” - Ghandi
then so be it
@St. Haborym stfu 🤡🤡🤡
@@DarlingKermity Why did you put emojis of yourself wtf
와...너무귀엽다그림체 귀엽고 이쁘고 연출도좋고 편집도대단하네요 만드시느라 수고하셨어요 잘보고갑니다
러브님이다
言葉わからなくてもわかる
深いやつやん…
それなだわ…
それな……
으어...? 이게 뭔뜻?? 번역기 돌려야징
나같아도 안 살려줘....날 괴롭히는데...도와줄리가.....만약에 도와주면 또 괴롭힐거잖아........
피해자는 이미 가해자가 몇번이고 몇번이고 정신적으로 짓밟았을텐데 나같아도 냅둬... 저런걸 왜구해줘 구해줘봤자 또 가해만할텐데
마법소녀 모습이 머리 양갈래여서
머리풀었을 때 생머리가 양갈래로
나눠지는 디테일 너무 좋음ㅜㅜ
The best part about this is that you can understand the story without needing any words....
And I love that!! ❤️
Lesson of this video:
Never underestimate/bully those who "looks" like a weak "bug", cause this "weak bug" will never lend you a hand if you're in trouble in the future.
Seriously.
STOP! BEING! A! FREAKING! BULLY! 💢💢💢
Sorry to say, my classmates won't stop.
@@puffysprinkles5667 same. The pick on me because I'm fat and quiet. And I have a feeling that my friend is becoming one each day😓
@@oofooff6288 aww... I'm here for you!and im actually ava andrada
My old classmates WILL bully everyone, and the only way to stop them is to show agression or brag that you're really rich (fake or not) and they'll suddenly kiss your ass the next day... weirdly enough thats how i get some of my friends
@@kageinu8429
Well atleast you know that they only friend because of your money. But you better be careful tho' cause you might get a surprise "attack".
You know prank, backstabbing, etc. I mean they might know but using you for the right time to reveal your secret.
I'm ngl even if she was a bully I'd still save her because I think that the guilt of me letting her die would weigh on me for years
Are you ok with possibly getting bullied again
Kitten Mimi Of course not. But if I were to let her die, that just means that I’m just as bad as her. Just because she treated me that way doesn’t mean I should let myself become even worse than her and leave her to die.
@@penelles8400 ah, I see. For the magical girl though I think she just... froze, she didn't make a decision, didn't know what to do
@whole damn titty Well that necessarily isn't a bad thing since she should then understand that she should stop bullying and even if she doesn't, you can't make everyone happy but you can always try your best.
@@penelles8400 you're very mature.
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I like it🌺
If she doesn't bully her in a first place she will save her in the end! o~o
@hi im Iny sorry
Magical Girl that done Deserved watches Bully girl falls cliff to death will not help anyone.
@Kyle Reid yea
Well uhh kinda rude much she chould have saved her and showed her she was WELL LIKE THAT AND she wouldn’t get bullied
@@minimonica1 yeah
Amazing video! I absolutely love the animation style and it’s colours, they really set the mood well. I also like how the story sparks a discussion on the basis of morality.
Warning: Long stupid post below that I just felt the need to write
Morality is a tricky thing, it differs for each person in different scenarios. There are two victims in this video, one is a person who can’t stand up for herself (lack of confidence, it’s hard being confident in this situation especially if the bully has a posse with her), the other is a bully who’s on the verge of death.
Death is seen as morally wrong, yes, but it begs the question, are YOU really responsible for the lives of others? Should every life be saved? For every death, is it your fault?
The problem this animation poses is that the girl (a magical hero) goes through a lot of trauma and has a chance to save or leave the cause of their trauma to die. They pose a lot of scenarios that may potentially happen.
A. She saves the bully. Said bully will be thankful but that doesn’t mean she’ll change. The bully victim may have to suffer through her abuse. To all those belittling the victim by saying she could just “stand up” if she wanted to, it’s extremely hard when you’re the one being bullied, literally no one will help (even if they wanted to) and you feel like you’re alone and try to put up with it because who knows how worse they’re gonna get if you stood up to the bully. This could potentially lead to the magical girl’s death via suicide which could mean loss of her life and civilians won’t be saved too. Will the bully feel sorry. It’s too late at this point.
B. She saves the bully and she changes her ways. Who knows what’s the story behind the girl. Maybe she has a rough family life and throws all her urges on the girl. Maybe the magical girl will reveal who she really is and she’ll change her ways? This is often the argument for deciding to help people - second chances are given to everyone, and killing people is wrong.
C. She lets the girl die and be able to get a more peaceful life and regrets it.
D. Let’s the girl die, regrets nothing, has a more freer life, potentially save a lot of bully victims from her hands. Dead girl’s family is either happy or mourning for their lost daughter. But if it’s a family mourning for their daughter and proves to be morally good people, does that really make her morally good if she’s bullying someone to a bad extent while living a good life?
Another question it asks is should the girl, a magical hero who’s saved countless of people but herself, be judged when not helping a girl who bullied her for a long time to the point she’s traumatised and compelled to not lend a helping hand? You can argue yes because she’s a magical hero, she needs to save people. So then, what if there’s a dilemma where it’s between her life or another who is responsible for traumatising her and there is no other choice (ie magic won’t help)? Should she sacrifice herself or the bully? There is no right answer.
We often tell people to do something we consider “morally right” but will it benefit the person we’re scolding? We usually are concerned with the future but rarely the present. It’s easy for the observer to call out the decider.
I don’t think what this girl did is morally right, but I believe if I was in her shoes where the decision is time-limited, I would have not moved due to the temptation of freedom, making the same decision as her.
Yep. To save or not to save both choices are wrong and right at the same time. As you said... by not helping it makes me the bad guy but who cares... they're mean to me, and it's not like it turns me evil if I'm still kind to everyone else and also it helps prevent future victims
Yes this! This is a big moral dilemma to think over, much less as a snap decision. In the clip, the magical girl is so clearly just paralyzed by the situation. She could very well intend to save everyone, but seeing her bully be the one to save threw her a big enough mental block that she couldn't work past it in time. I see a lot of comments calling this girl reprehensible for "choosing" for her to die and basically killing her. But she has no resentment in her eyes, she doesn't turn away. She's clearly snapped out of the state she's in by what seems to be the scream of the girl falling to her death- she had made no decision here, she was thrust into a state of heavy dissociation by the heavy emotional stress caused by this situation.
@@sublimelemon5444 i feel like its difficult for neurotypical people to understand this issue and they decide to project their own shallow principals and ideas of morality on the situation because they genuinely believe that theres any sort of absolutes to the situation
The problem is that the girl wasn't the only one bullying her. She was just the ring leader, so there's no guarantee that her bully problems would be solved by letting her die and since she's in her magical girl form, even if she does save the bully, the bully probably won't recognize her as the girl she's been bullying, so she's damned regardless and might as well go save her just so she doesn't have the death of a person who might not be totally innocent but probably still didn't deserve to die on her conscience.
B. I choose B.
絵柄が好き、内容が好き、動きも好き 神
じゃがりこ 日本人に会いたかった…闇深い魔法少女アニメですね。
@@カワイイ瑞希 日本人がいたとは、、(゜д゜)
ヾ(喜*・ω・*)ノ
독도는 우리땅입니다.
@@しゃもじ教 それな〜日本人少ない…そしてめっちゃこのアニメ良き〜❀.(*´▽`*)❀.
日本人安心した……!!
Everyone in the comments:
She should save her it’s morally correct even though the girl is an asshole
Me:
Who says I’m morally correct?
Wow so epic and unique
@@ellal3554 it’s hard to be nice to people who Hurt you. It’s understandable to not want to personally I would save her.
I agree
@@kyaomi4448 Idk but I wouldn't kill someone just because they bullied me...
@@ellal3554 she didn’t kill her though,she was already falling. It wouldn’t have changed if she was there or not
i was expecting the most generic "oh you saved me! im sorry for what i did, lets be friends!". this is really creative
요즘 마법소녀 물은 계약과 법률의 무서움을 보여주는게 많던데.. 애들 목날아가고 옆에 친구가 터져죽고 주인공은 그걸 "에...?" 하면서 지켜보다 비명지르고.. 힐링이 필요했는데 ㅜㅜ
there are a lot of folks saying she deserved to fall but two wrongs don’t make a right. like- yeah she was a bully and bullying is wrong and very bad but the magical girl letting her fall (if she did but we don’t know bc it was a cliffhanger) was just stooping down to her level. also the style is so cute uwu
edit, three years later: ew i can’t believe i said uwu unironically. also to revise this comment a bit, i don’t still think the magical girl letting the bully fall would be “stooping” i still think that’s as a hero, it’s her duty to save everyone, but i definitely get why she hesitates what given the option to save that piece of dirt.
Sooo.. she is dead now? man this is so dark..
So true. This isn't about forgiveness, it is irrelevant when it comes to a life.
???무슨말.....
최이진 뭐?
saving the person who has emotionally, psychologically and physically crushed you only happens in anime. in reality, it's foolish to rescue someone whom, not only won't know you were the one who saved them, but also will bully you again after the rescue.
분위기나 감정 표현 너무 잘 하신 것 같아요ㅠㅠㅠ!!
This is not what being a hero is...isn't it? Well, depends on the ending tho.
"저 괴물보다 가해자가 더 잔인하지. 잔인한 사람을 처단하는게 인지상정 너가 무슨 잘못을 했는지 깨닫는 시간을 가져봐." 라는 표정임
어무나..
things got dark there :0
magical girl that deserved watches bully girl falls cliff to death worse done.
I thought this was going to be cliche but I'm quite pleasantly surprised it wasn't. I'm happy the animation captured an imperfect human.
Moral of the story: Never bully someone or they'll turn out to be a magical girl no matter the circumstances and let you fall off a cliff due to a giant monster a rampaging around your town.
Never treat someone in a bad way when you don't know the future. You never know if that person's going to be in a position to change your life for the better or the worse one day, or be the only you can rely on...or maybe not so much anymore.
솔직히 마법소녀든 마법소년이든 무조건 누구나 구해줘야됀다는건 고정관념을 깨부시는것같아서 좋다
저거 구하기 진짜 힘들듯...가해자를 구한다는것 자체가 힘들어보임
저 사람은 내 인생을 구렁텅이로 밀어넣은 사람인데, 나는 왜 구렁텅이에서 저 사람을 구해야 하는 거지..
i think about this concept all the time! im glad someone made a short on it because its never expanded enough or hardly at all, at least in mainstream media to my knowledge. -
So my theory is like the magical girl scene was a metaphor for something else for example her being popular and the bully being mistreated while the pink haired girl just sits and watches?
I’m pretty sure the magical girl was the girl getting bullied. And that people should all be respected because you never know how that can effect you. But idk
Trash :l i think they mean that suddenly the girl who got bullied became more liked and popular, meanwhile the bully's reputation suddenly decreased to where she was the one getting bullied instead
Or she was just a magical girl and chose not to save the bully.
와중에 긂체 너무 예쁘시다..
마법소녀나 히어로나 둘다 모든 사람을 구해주란건 없지 !
애초에 보면 자신들이 평화로운 세상을 만들려고 탄생된건데 자신들에게 피해를 끼치는 인물을 구해줄 필요는 없잖아
It seems I have a different interpretation from most... I was under the impression that the ending of her just sitting at her desk meant all the rest was just her imagination, like, "They'd be sorry if I were a magical girl and a giant cat attacked the city. And when my bully was falling off a cliff, I'd wait until the last moment to decide whether or not to save her. That'd show them!"
Like one of the sayings go “what if the person you once bullied became the only doctor who could save your life?” By that I mean pretty much whatever you may do to someone in the past like treat them badly they won’t do any favours for you.
구할지 말지 결말만을 기대했지만 구할지 말지 고뇌하는 주인공의 심리를 관찰하는 것도 나쁘지 않네요.
느금마를 ㄸ먹어써 ㅋ
그림체 겁나 이뻐요 ㅠㅠㅠㅠ ❤❤❤
あの子を助けたのか否か…
저녀석을 또 구하면 또 괴롶히지 않을가?도 싶고.... 잰 괴롶히고 그랬으니... 결정이 힘드겠지... 응응 이와중에 그림 예쁘다
아 그래서 제목이 두근두근이였군요..주인공에게 처한 갈등이 이 만화의 중심이 되었던거였네요
이제 우리나라에서 저 분같이 제대로 된 인재를 애니매이터로 고용하면 우리나라 애니산업 대박날 텐데
그림체가 너무 귀여워서 홀린 듯이 들어왔어요...
마법소녀가 몸이 굳음과 동시에 고민하고있는데
0:53 일때 가해자의 눈빛이
"넌 나를구해야되는데 왜 안구하는거야?"
하고 손바닥을 절벽쪽으로 해서
떨어지게되가지고 마법소녀가 놀란거같아요
물론 다 떨어지기전에 구했을수도 있지만
그 이후는 이걸보시는 여러분의 자유니까요
모두다는 아니지만 저였어도 가해자가 저렇게하고있으면 몸굳고 고민할거같네요
┗(오타나 그런게 있다면 둥근말투로 얘기해주세요!☆)
┗(아직 어려서 오타가 많을수도 있어요 그렇게 많이 어리진 않은데 10대 중반?...)
┗(여기까지 제 생각을 끄적여봤어요)
┗(사실상 여기 있돈 댓글들 보고 저도 동의하고 그렇게 생각해서 끄적여보고싶었어요 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ)
┗(그럼 안녕히계세요!!☆)
마법소녀도 사람이다 라는걸 잘 표현 했군뇨
I hate how negative the comments there are about this.
자동반사 PTSD
심장이 뛰는 것도 불안에서 오는 긴장감.
해당 인물을 보자, 떠오른 속이썩는 기억. 그로인해 구해야하는 상황에서 멈칫.
시간이 끌리고..
동공이 커진점은
방관하면
가해로부터 자유롭지 않을까 란
찰나의순간 계산까지 다 된것.
마법소녀가 선의로 일반대중을 구하는 것과 별개로
마법소녀는 누가 구하고 누구에게 기대나
그러니 때론 선탠적 정의도 용서받아 마땅해
0:32 急激にエスカレートしたなw
0:40 완존 이뿌다
저라도 만약 저를 괴롭힌 아이가 떨어지기 직전의 상황이면 고민을 많이 할 거 같아요. 왕따에 대해 피해자의 생각을 잘 표현하신 것같습니다.
진짜 많은 생각을 하게 해주는 영상이다.
마법소녀가 모든 사람을 구하란 법은 없으니까.
It comes down to whether it's ok for the magical girl to judge whether someone deserves to be saved or not.
Like if it was let's say a fireman, and a person-who-bullied-him's house was on fire, and he chose to just watch, then who's right or wrong.
오히려 그림체가 귀여워서 더 호러틱한거같아..
그림체는 너무 이쁘고 귀엽지만 엔딩도 그렇고 내용도 무겁네요..
영상에 여러 의미가 담겨져 있네;
그리고 캐릭터들이 어쩜 이리 이쁘냐
과...과제작이 이정도 퀄리티란 말이야?
캐릭터들 눈이 다 너무 예쁘네요❤️
Me: *watching*
Video : *ends...*
Also me: **AHM EXCUSE ME??? WE'RE NOT DONE YET NANI.**
bbyapp _ 'Nani' means 'What' in Japanese.
진짜 이런게 애니메이션이지
소피루비가 뭐야 소피루비가
헐 딱 썸네일만보고와서 와그림너무 징짜 너무이뻐요 ㅜㅜ와그림체정말너무이쁘신거삭타옹푸ㅜ 근대 가해자를 도와주지않았을것같아요 저였어요 ㅜ
oou cliffhanger.. btw, I love the artstyle 😍😍
세상에 그림체 너무 이뻐요.. 스토리는 슬프지만 귀엽기도 하고 이건 갓작입니ㄷr..★
결국(가해자) 자업자득이네.
지가 했던짓때문에 마법소녀가 얼어붙은거잖아 ㅠ 피해자가 가해자를 봐서ㅠ 솔직히 마법소녀는 잘못없쥬 그러면.... 음.... 해피엔딩...?
this is one of the best animations ever
오 선도 깔끔하고 내용도 좋고 그림체도 너무 귀엽다ㅠㅠ 게다가 마지막에 마법소녀 망설일 때 눈동자 약간 쎄한 느낌이 뭔가 해피슈가라이프 느낌도 난다 다음편은 없나 다음편도 궁금하오!!!!!ㅠㅜㅜ (광광
{ ♰ } ✞_ ̌ ֶ → 해슈가 아시는 군요
화이파이브
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I don’t believe she deserved to fall. She was just a kid, if she hadn’t fallen she would’ve had her whole life to change and mature. Most people aren’t the same as they were 7-5 yrs ago. :(
Things like bullying can lead people to kill them selves when they can’t handle it anymore. For her it might have been a choice of “should she die, or me?” And those choices are extremely hard. Even if we know that it’s the right thing to help people even if they have hurt us. It’s far too difficult to know if you are able to actually reach out a hand towards them when they need that help. Because that trauma they have inflicted on us, can make us unable to move. Is it cruel and terrible for her to let her fall then? Well yes if you only look at it from one point ot view. But if you see it from the view of a poor girl suffering from tremendous trauma that was unable to help even if she knew what she had to do, then it suddenly doesn’t look so black and white anymore.
진짜 너무 잘 만들었다...
그리고 피해자는 당한 사실을 절대 잊을 수 없지...ㅠㅠ
O-O
She didnt save her....
내가 마법소녀였어도 안 구했을것같아용
But she is bully to magic girl
reajeanp Cus she bulling the magical girl
@Nicō:2 But heroes always forgive enemies.. right... ;~;
But I think she deserved it tho :VV
마법소녀는 말그대로 마법을 쓰는 사람이지 꼭 영웅이 되어야하는 건 아니죠...
보기 전-그림체 예뻐서 왔는데..!!
본 후-가해자 저거 뭐야..
표정이 마치 떨어지는 아이를 보며 수많은 생각이 지나가고 어떻게 될까 멍 때리며 보다 떨어지니 "어 떨어졌다"하는거 같아..
Some of these comments... seriously
if you guys seriously are relating to this fiction animation and say she deserves it, please reconsider that:
somebody dying when you could save them could haunt you for years, if not your whole life
while school bullying is a terrible thing to deal with (that happens/happened to many of us), it's only temporary and many of these mental scars you have can still be healed
don't follow the school shooter logic and move on, you're better than that :))
And then there's me; I'd let my bully die for a single potato chip. That chip will satisfy me more than that person ever did.
가해자는 자기가 저지른 잘못에 벌을 받으니 이젠 그러지말자 하고 착해지면 평판이 좋아질수았겠지만
피해자는 자기가 잘못한것도없고 사람을 대할때마다 겁을 먹고 소심해져서 극복하기도 힘들것같다
1:12 거게다 가해자 죽고나니까 이제
주인공자리에 흙 종이 같은거 없어짐... 소름..
이런 그림체 진짜 조아ㅠㅠㅜㅜㅠㅠㅠ너무이뻐
Wait, what?! The ending really surprised me.
가해자를 안구한게 아니라 못구한거 아님? 본능적으로 무서우니까 굳어버릴 수 밖에 없잖아
근데 설창에 마법소녀도 구하고 싶지 않은 사람은 있다... 라고 써있는 거 보니까... 스읍 뭐 생각하기 나름이겠네요
더 슬픈 건 가해자를 구하지 않았다는 죄책감으로 또 고통받을 거라는 점..