How To Migrate From TrueNAS CORE to TrueNAS SCALE
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⏱️ Timestamps ⏱️
00:00 TrueNAS Core to TrueNAS Scale Upgrade
02:08 TrueNAS Core Backup
04:12 Install TrueNAS Scale via USB
05:20 Testing TrueNAS Scale
07:00 Replication & Cloud Tasks Conversion
07:58 Final Thoughts
#TrueNAS #TrueNAS Scale #TrueNAS Core 
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Very relieved that the conversion from Core to Scale isn't complicated and is well-thought of by ix systems. Still will wait for the final release plus a few updates to ensure maturity in Scale. Thank you for this video.
Just did a migration on my home lab and it worked well running TrueNAS-SCALE-22.02.0.1 on R710 with a H700 controller and no issues at all, thanks for the video love your content even though you talk at 100mph, but i enjoy all your content
I'm glad you made this comment. I was quite leery given that I wasn't using TrueNAS's hardware. I own an R720 and took the plunge. Everything went about as flawless as it can be.
Thanks, Tom. Looking forward to more TrueNAS Scale coverage.
This was one of the easiest upgrades I could've imagined given the fact that it's migrating data from entirely different architectures. Thank you so much. I really love BSD and hope to return when I have a bit more experience (and hopefully money). But the features of Scale really sold me on it; primarily when it comes to running game servers. But I didn't want to have to spend hours or days setting everything up again. Sure it probably isn't as stable, but I really needed more out of my server (a decommissioned R720). Especially given that all I was using it for before was a NAS and Plex server.
Great video, I followed your instruction and it was flawless. Likely the easiest upgrade of anything I have ever done!
Thanks mate, I just migrated over. Still works exactly as the video described.
I had some issues with supported hardware on CORE, and it works perfectly fine on the Debian-based SCALE.
Thanks for this, interesting that the migration is so straight forward (not taking jails in to account); great job by iXsystems on that. Thanks!
What a great video, Tom! I wouldn't have thought moving to SCALE was that easy. It was, yay!
unraid user, wanting to get onboard truenas scale when it’s stable - keep em coming!
🙂
Did you saw the now native zfs on UnRaid? You can run Truenas in a VM, not so difficult.
That was so smooth! Can't wait to see the "jail migration" video - I'd be nice to have specific tutorials for Plex and Nextcloud setups (which is the jails I currently run on my home system).
Also, can't wait to SCALE to reach the STABLE release.
There is no migration, they have to be replaced by their docker equivalents in Scale.
@@LAWRENCESYSTEMS that is clear, but many would need a totorial on how to export the Nextcloud Database or lokate it outside of the Jail and export the Users, in order to make it useable in the Docker instance instead of having to start from ground up...
@@LAWRENCESYSTEMS yes, show us how. Nextcloud would be a good example & template for me!
Used this as agood. It was super helpful. But never had to do the USB I was able to do the upgrade/migration through the console. Super easy and it just works.
Gotta take this comment to the forums. So... I hope I remember! :) Thanks Tom
FYI, for any users virtualizing TrueNAS, the upgrade path did not work for me. When you choose the upgrade path there are two different boot options, I tried both but both threw exceptions and failed to install. After that I had to do the fresh install which worked fine. Restored the config from the backup file and everything was up and running.
Just make sure you have that backup file!
Excellent review as always if you get the chance please show how docker works with scale.. that's prob one of the biggest reason scale exist imho
Once I figure out how it works I will make some videos.
@@LAWRENCESYSTEMS I'm very comfortable with docker compose but apparently they are using kubernetes which I'm not familiar with
Went from truenas core to scale today on a dell r420 with 96g ram and 4 6tb sas drives, zfs giving me fits, same drives on core no issues. Fresh install of scale, created a fresh raidz2 pool, two of the 4 dives keep going into degrade mode.... truenas only thing i run zfs on because freenas and core have always been rock soild, open zfs on linux distros just not what its cracked up to be yet.
Another excellent video!
Glad you enjoyed it!
hello
thx for all ur amazing videos looking a lot of them and learned a lot of things.
i want to migrate from core to scale. I know it a wrong thing but i virtualized truenas core on a proxmox and mount the pool in truenas.
I'm going to change my server and want to dedicate one for truenas. my question is if i install truenas scale on a server and restore my db of truenas core in my new installation does scale will recognize my old pool or not
thx for ur answer
thank god I backed up before the upgrade, once upgraded none of my pools showed up, so I told scale to restore and selected my backup, it then handled the conversion of my pools and when rebooted they were all there.
Are data set keys only if you encrypted the pool/drives? I dont have that option so I am assuming its not encrypted?
lawrence do something on the scaleout functions, would like to see multiple systems deployed with trunas scales and all sharing the data, and adding a new device on the pool to get the datat of the new server
Short and maybe dumb question: If i have a encrypted Dataset with a password to unlock and not a key, i dont need to do the second step with "export dataset keys" right?
Hi there, exporting dataset keys is not available on my end. I am using version 12.0-U8 of Truenas Core. Any ideas?
Is there a good solution for those of us who have Legacy Encryption on our Pool? If there is (or isn't), would that maybe justify a video in the future? Thanks for all the great information!
Useful video. Export Dataset Keys option is missing on my TrueNAS core with the latest version.
I think this is because your dataset is not encrypted. Try creating a dataset, and in the 'Advanced Settings', enabling encryption. You should notice that the three dots now say 'Export Keys' on the newly created dataset. Hope this helps!
Hi Tom, Have you thought about doing a video on how to do a migration of TrueNAS Core to TrueNAS Scale using the manual file update system of TrueNAS on a home built system?
Thanks for your tutorial videos.
Geoff
i have ben waiting for you to do a video on the upgrade to scale from core..i am on FreeNas core but really like the way scale looks & I Love The Docker Thing! I Have a Scuzzy set up with a bunch of games & i Really Dont want to half to re download all of them..lol. I Also have sync thing set up & as well as a UniFi Controller But an another one r 2 But Them is No Big Deal..Thanks Again For all The Help Full Videos & Helping make Dumb people(Like Me) a little less Dumb LMAO !
Hi Tom. Great video. I've a FreeNas Mini running TrueNas Core (TrueNAS-12.0-U5.1) , do you think if it possible and safe to upgrade to TruenNas Scale?. Another question is about IPMI, Do you know how to do a firmare upgrade on the freenas mini?. It use a outdated version of java . Regards from Argentina.
I did the video on a FreeNAS Mini, so it should work. Contact IX Systems about the firmware.
So how's passing through Intel integrated graphics (or NVIDIA graphics card) to Plex to help render video in scale contra core? I'm seriously considering migrating because i really want to start a bedrock Minecraft server
Export secret seeds? what are they? 2.54 export dataset keys? i can not find it?
TrueNAS-12.0-U8.1. I have now truenas core (12.0-U8.1) with samba (else i can not place and put files on it) and Plex. I need Home Assistant with interaction (On Truenas core there is only Home Assistant core so no zwave/ zigbee sticks. But is it possible to update to Scale without losing my media data?
Question, is it possible in TrueNAS Scala/Core to combine two units to have a larger Data Pool? In the sense of a different solution than adding additional disks or replacing with larger ones.
That is where tools such as gluster come in to make that work.
Is it possible to upgrade a USB stick install? Or do I need to put actual boot drives in my system?
Should work but USB stick installs are no longer recommended
My fresh install doesn't recognize the pool.. great, a good thing I still have the old SSD with old truenas core install intact.
EDIT:
Lost the 8 TB of data... pool didn't work with original Truenas core also... I'm so happy right now...
I started with 12 U06 and inplace upgrade doesnot work :( - clean install please, I have configuration backup.
5 minutes later - configuration cant be restored into clean install - Error: [EFAULT] Failed to upload config, version newer than the current installed. and No updates available.
7.5 minutes later - pools - import pool. here is my pool. its readable and working.
10 minutes later - found previous backup of 12 u4 and its accepted, and my shares is restored
Does anyone know why Scale requires "2 Identically Sized Devices"? Is it not possible to create a striped pool from a single disk as it is on CORE?
I wonder what happens to any jails -- I'm wondering if some of the datasets from the jails could be saved.
The data still exists in the dataset, it's just not able to run them.
Upgrading to scale from core will not wipe out all my data on my NAS right?
No luck migrating here. Tried migrating 3 times, restored from backup 3 times, retried migrating 3 times again before giving up and ended up just doing a clean install.
How do I get https on scale? Nginx reverse proxy doesnt work for me...
In Core 13.0-U6.1 I don't have the option of exporting dataset keys. So does that mean, i can't migrate to scale?
i belive this only applies if you have selected the option to encrypt your pool
You mention jails - does this migration also handle virtual machines?
I have not used VM's in Core but I doubt it would work because the hypervisor is not the same between the versions.
No but you can probably just export the VM virtual drives, then create a new VM in TrueNAS Scale and then import the old virtual drives to migrate that manually
I only have a UniFi jail so that's not so bad. Eagerly waiting for a stable release with GlusterFS.
Any chance on getting a video on clustering a few nodes together at some stage?
When it's out of beta and that feature gets more developed.
@@LAWRENCESYSTEMS Fantastic 🙂
afaik that feature is not available yet, still on the roadmap
@@marcogenovesi8570 Dontvworry, I can wait. I should have known Tom would have a video planned to cover once it's in.
Why did the available space on your pool jump from 6.81 TiB to 7.01 TiB after the upgrade? isn't that a little odd...
I probably deleted something or changed some data while testing.
Can you please make a video outlining how to upgrade TrueNas Core to TrueNas Scale via Proxmox? I am not sure if I force a reinstall via an ISO or something more than this. Thanks for making your videos. Please keep it going. Thanks.
I don't know how it would be different and I don't recommend running TrueNAS virtualized.
@@LAWRENCESYSTEMS Yup, I am a rebel but that's life. Seeking what I need elsewhere, it seems.
Question, how do you make a reasonable HA environment out of TrueNAS Scala/Core?
The M50 supports it ruclips.net/video/LtJXmJToGzs/видео.html
The ZFS replication jobs (shown in multiple LTS videos) seems to be very reliable. I would prefer that over failover solutions.
I was able to upgrade my home setup with success but docker containers "eat" all my CPU when enabled.
Do you have a full video course for TrueNAS Scale?
Just the playlist lawrence.video/truenas/
Not working for me . the pool its not exist any more in new update and my data are not present.
I'm currently running TrueNAS Core on an ancient HP Microserver N54L! Yet it keeps on ticking... is there any reason why I can't run TrueNAS Scale on this... would like to retire the VM that hosts a couple of Docker containers and run them directly on the host OS - even if the underlying CPU is a little slow by today's standards!
As long as the hardware is supported in Debian it should work.
Should work fine, HP microservers like that have been running Linux OSes for a long while at this point.
Can't I just change the Upgrade Train to Bluefin and upgrade that way? Or was that not available when you made this video?
Not available when I made this video.
Could you please record a video about setting permissions in SCALE? I'm really driving crazy right now.
Once it comes out of beta as there are some issues that seem to happen. Not sure what the cause it yet to make it reproducible but I will post in the TrueNAS forums once I get it sorted out.
When do you think TrueNAS Scala will be suitable for productions?
When it's not beta
Are the new jails going to be docker based?
Yes
Is there any reason to stay on Core?
ruclips.net/video/8GiN76HNuss/видео.htmlsi=1sLS8yy4ibslPdg_
What is the difference between freenas and true nas?
FreeNAS is the old name
Would you be able to make a vid with Truenas Scale, Plex and Nvidia gpu in their docker/k8s setup?
Not likely until it's out of beta
for some reason i don't have the data keys save thing on either of my pools and can't get scale to boot on bear metal either truenas is fucked you must be running something different cuz I have no keys to save and no data protection what are you running
You must not have encrypted pools
Can you do a video about how to safely migrate a jail into a VM? Is there a way to do such a thing? I don't want to have to rebuild my Plex server for a third time. :-(
Mmmh, I really hoped this was about migrating jails to docker containers, but no, it's just about migrating the OS from Core to Scale... which basically just boils down to selecting the Upgrade previous installation button over the Fresh install button...
TrueNAS Scale doesn't have NFS support? Is that still under development? I'd much rather use NFS over SMB.
Yes it has NFS support. I am using it and it works really well
It does, not sure why you think it does not.
At 5:30 it only has AFP, iSCSI and SMB. I guess that’s why the OP is asking. Kind of weird. Besides NFS missing from the menu, I thought AFP was gone already, apparently not.
@@vpvfi That appears to be a UI fluke that somehow caused a mix of Core and Scale UI elements probably from something stuck in cache.
I really hope Pfsense/OPNsense can do the same by moving to use Linux instead of BSD kernel. There are so many things in *sense that are not supported because of kernel. 1st, the wireless card drivers, and then kernel space wireguard support, and then cake scheduler, and then BGP multi node loadbalancing. There are so many good stuffs missing in BSD kernel, I really hope one day we can have Linux version of *sense firewall ☺️
I'll stick to the BSD kernel. If FreeBSD good enough for Netflix, it's good enough for me!
It's so sad we can't migrate Jails in an easy way.
Nope
first
Why one would do this?
Because one wants to switch to TrueNAS Scale without having to set everything up from scratch, maybe?
Yes, that.
@@LAWRENCESYSTEMS Yes, ok. Sorry, was unclear: Why would you switch from Core to Scale?
@@IPD2001 because you want to use the features offered in Scale that you can't use in Core, like docker containers, KVM-based virtualization, and eventually clustering and cluster-based filesystems. Truenas Core has jails and some limited virtualization capability, but it's not anywhere near as good.
@@marcogenovesi8570 This! And not to mention the broader hardware support because Scale is Linux-based.
Damn you 1 disliker 😀
Yeah, always someone or some bot doing that.