Just an update on the 3sixty i own. I have been riding it back home from work almost every day except weekends, which is about 21km. No problem at all. Highly recommend you to upgrade the bottom bracket and the crankset to something lighter plus a bigger size pedal. A big pedal makes the riding experience much more pleasant.
Thank you. I was amazed at how many foldable bikes I spotted in Singapore and this got me very interested in this sort of bike for leisure and fitness cycling. ❤
This is the first video of yours that I've watched. I admire your honesty about not being able to afford a Brompton - so much more refreshing than the aggressive "why would I spend so much of my hard earned money on a Brompton?!" style. 🙂 I love the rollers on this machine - that looks like technical one area that scores points over Brompton's bicycle. I'll certainly be looking into these Paikes bikes now. Thanks 👍🏼
i would not spend that much on a tiny little bike. people are smarter nowadays knowing that a lot of things are way overpriced and stopped brand worshiping. it's pretty much a status symbol of bikes for older people and status symbol is cringe
I got my 3 speed 3sixty from taobao. It's cheap but the parts are also cheap except the body. I upgraded the BB, crankset, pedals, handlebar covers, shifters, shock absorber, rear derailleur and also changed the straight bar to the M bar. Note that the rear derailleur by litepro need abit of filing to fit to the 3sixty. Then the bike is perfect. I have owned road bike, mountain bike and now this foldie is perfect for portability and it run fast too!
Excellent video! Great comparison thoughts you got here, a newbie like me will likely go for the similar one like yours in terms of cost saving. Simply love the Electro silver color, litepro crank and tier of your 3 Sixty.... very unique & cool. Thanks for your time and effort in sharing, i am sure it will benefit most of people out there for their 1st foldie buying choices. Stay safe and take care mate~
Thanks for the great review. We apparently can't get the 360 here in the US. And yet... I can see a market for a more affordable Brompton like foldable bike. It seems great - enjoy!
To be honest, any comparison with a Brompton can only be objectively made if you've owned and ridden both a genuine and clone for some time. Otherwise, the main basis for comparison is almost always going to center around retail price, and Bromptons are hand-made in England which accounts for their higher cost. Enjoy your bike, I have the same front carrier block bag 😊
Thank you for your comment. I especially appreciate your thoughts on objectivity. Though this video is not a 1:1 comparison but rather centered around the introduction of my new bike and sharing my own thought process to distill the choices in the market, I'd still think any attempts by anyone (even with the best intentions) to make a 1:1 comparisons will still be open to subjectivity to varying extents because it will encapsulate one's opinions when drawing comparisons. The country of manufacture may explain the higher cost structure/price point in products, but at least in my opinion for this case, may not explain how it should naturally translate to superior quality that will Correspond/Align/Match the market premiums. I am not disagreeing with the superior quality (I love the build on the B!), but the question I struggled with is on the alignment i.e is it really that much better to justify 2-3x the price? I guess it all boils down to how much one is willing to pay for craftsmanship at the point of purchase which is subjective in itself. Objectivity - really quite an ideal. :) Thank you for getting me thinking, I love these conversations with my viewers, hope you don't find them boring. Enjoy your ride too (maybe together some day!), let's chat more on other subjects as they come. Have a great weekend. :)
Thanks Fred. I'm thinking of 3sixty vs brompton. Cos the latter bike is of higher cost which not that I can't afford but being an amateur rider who cycle for leisure, I want to get a bike which can fits my budget too. 😅
Thank you Fred for sharing!. I have a rifle RD-10 bifold bicycle. Perhaps I should switch to a trifold bicycle some day. 😀 I like the way the bicycle folds into something so compact and stylish. Now I know more about the functionality of an M-bar versus the other shape bars.
Have you tried one of those u-shaped seat suspension things for extending the seat height while adding comfort? I have it on my folding bike and am pretty happy with it, actually
Been thinking about getting a 3 speed Pikes. I already have 3 different kind of bikes at home, so I don't want to spend like $3k for Brompton. The reason for trifold is I can bring it on train so it's a good bike for holiday.
Hi Fred, good to see such an honest review I was not aware of this brand however now that I know will surely consider this. Fred, I also like your footwear If you can share the link for that as well. Thanks !!
Thank you Fred.. What you said in the first sentence was very important, since that is me. Brompton is out of my budget but I am considering others. Maybe you have something to share with me. In fact, I had in mind. Pikes 9, 3Sixty and Mint with 9 gears. (there are others, but too many to mention) in fact, you helped me with T or M handle bard question, I didn't know what to choose. (in Taobao you have the option to select that) 1) Apart from that, the back wheel in the rack, are very different from Brompton, and the Brompton Rack is longer, any difference? 2) The front cassette has no protection, like Pikes. Pikes of the frame it is a little bigger, right? 3) Have you tried it in a rough areas? I would like to add semi-rough tires if you think that is a good suggestion 4) Pikes offers 9 gears and MINT too, but not 3Sixty. I suppose that you are happy with it 5) Not important, but I saw that you recently recorded that, ruclips.net/video/hb15y6uglE0/видео.html didnt you miss the mud-guard in that one? anyway, thank you for answering if possible.
Hey Peter, thanks for the questions and I'll try my best to offer my views on them. I didn't really take a close look at the rack and mudguard but I guess as long as they are functional, it'll be good enough for most users and any difference should (in my view) not play a big role in ride quality. I've had mine removed from my new Avro bike for a sportier look 😁. I've ridden them over rough areas like gravel paths, but not for long. Not deliberately, but usually because they are part of the route I take. During the short distance, no major issues. Yes, i am super happy with my Avro with extermal gears for reasons described in my other video but thats just me. Many would prefer internal hub set ups, so really up to individuals. Hope this helps in your bike hunt!
@@fredphua Thank you for your help, now that that you have people that have let you bikes for reviews, it would be nice to see the difference between the Royale, Litepro, Mint, Pikes, 3sixty.. I know that it might be a lot, but interesting video comparison. About the gears, Internal or external, I dont really know the difference.
That's true my friend. I sold my Brompton and bought myself a 3sixty.. different brand with same feeling. I also bought from faz360. Very nice guy. I just do some upgrade and ready to go.
Thank you for sharing your views on the 2. You have owned both, and would have ridden them for a longer time, I'm sure your views would be more accurate than mine. Haha and yes Faz for the win! 😁
@@fredphua Brompton must really take care. Clean every outing to prevent corrosion. For 3sixty with the same material don't need too much care. I just wash it once a month.
@@mohdsabrijanuri thank you for sharing. May I ask if it is because B seems to be more prone to corrosion or is it because of a higher price point, therefore the extra care? Just trying to understand. :)
@@fredphua higher price point is 1 thing.. Corrosion is the same.. Only I realise my 3sixty, inner frame tube also they put paint coating that can prevent from corrosion as well.. My Brompton inner tube can see the corrosion after wash
Very good review. My cuz just got one in SG for a fraction. So far so good, will have to wait a bit to see a review on reliability. Like many basic things here it is so over priced, glad to see some competition to spur innovation.
Appreciate the kind words, it's encouraging. I appreciate your comments too, they're objective. I share the same view that it hopefully it will spur innovation or at least a more efficient way of manufacturing to drive the prices down. But again, I'm sure I'm oversimplifying things. And yes, I also agree that it will take some time to discover the reliability of this, hope it lasts, fingers crossed! 😁
Mine new 3Sixty that recently just bought got a issues. The 3 cables for brake & gears was too short! That is the con for mine. Yours I look at it is ok. Should be factory or the set up issues. Mine from Bike Companion.
Hey ST, yes I'm seeing some rust issue on my chrome 3sixty as well. Tried a few methods and wanted to share them if they worked, but unfortunately they didn't. So I guess I'll probably look to paint it down the road if it gets worse... :D
thank you for sharing. would be good if you could do some comparison between different clones and brompton. btw, the recording volume is not consistent and is loud and sometimes really not audible with road noice interfering with your voice. can try recording what you want to present by doing a record over your original sound trek. this way, you can control your volume better. however, i do enjoy your interesting video... You mentioned that you intend to have a longer seat post and a taller steering post (stem) too. where can we get those and what kind of pricing are they? would appreciate if you could kindly advice on this. thanks in advance.
Hey David, apologies. I realized I forgot to reply to this. Appreciate the feedback, gotten a wireless mic after this first vid :D . As for the items required for the fit, I'd say major online platforms (Lazada, Aliexpress etc) sell them in different specs. I can't recall the exact price, but I think it can range from 30+ bucks to over 100+, depending on material/brand etc. Just prowl through the sites and I'm sure you can find something that suits your needs. :)
Hey Fred, tks for the sharing. Just one quick question, wondering if you would recommend this for a new-user(Not super savvy rider) & height of 165cm? I am also trying to explore one that can bring me via public transport too. Thanks.
Hey Patricia, pleasure's mine. There's some adjustability to the seat height etc, and I'd think you'd be well within comfortable range at 165cm. This is also really good to bring up public transport, so I'd think it fits your criteria well. One suggestion would be to go down to retailers of different brands (Brompton, Pikes, 3Sixty etc) to try them out to see if which you like best before committing. Hope this helps! ;)
Thanks for your review which comes just right in time as I'm on the fence between Pikes and 3sixty. Now, like yourself, I'm 1.8m, and you mentioned the frame of Pikes is about an inch longer than 3sixty, and you felt a tad more comfortable riding on Pikes. So in your opinion, would you have saved on upgrading if you have chosen Pikes?
Hey Simon, thank you for your comments. The stuff that I've done so far doesn't affect the geometry in any way. I've just gotten my longer seat post and handlebars to fit better on the bike, but I think the cost for these items are pretty manageable. Short answer is that, comparatively I don't think I'll save on upgrading if I've chosen a Pikes. Most stuff I've done are not out of absolute necessity anyway :D Hope it helps.
@@simongoh5580 thank you and glad it helped in some ways. Be sure to join the FB group which is an awesome community. Meanwhile, enjoy the miles on your upcoming new bike! 😁👍
Peace to all readers, whatever copy car or copy dealership stolen, we are not Greer to scream and shout, I don't really care much about trademarks TM and such, let's enjoy the ride as far as we are concerned about healthy greenfield yet car lite. Thx U Freddie for your generous inputs and sharing . Tons of love ❤️
Hello. Do you have a constant clicking noise when you are actioning the pedals of your 3sixty bike? I ask you this question because with a Brompton, this noise is coming from the gearbox...it's not the same than when you stop to pedal and still running. It's another clicking sound from the gearbox hub. Thanks for your help ;-)
Hey thank you for dropping by. I have no recollection of any clicking sound that continued to run after I stop pedaling. Not sure if I get the question correctly, hope it helps.
@@fredphua hello. My question is not after you finish pedaling, but during you are pedaling. A clic...clic...clic sound from the gear hub at the center of the rear wheel...sorry if my question is not clear, I'm not fluent ;-)
@@mattiuzzididier8911 ah, no no, dont apologise for fluency. 😉 Yes, I have the same clicking sound when I pedal. That comes from the internal hub which engages the gears a little differently. Hope this helps
Hi nice video n sharing experience... May i knw when u replace to the 53T chain ring do u need to replace to a longer chain? Ori is 9spèed chain if im not wrong..planning to replace mine to a hollowtech but not sure need to replace the chain..thks
Thank you for the encouragement. Yes, I did change it to a new 9 spd chain. I think there are many online discussions on the exact number of links required for 53T. You might want to look it up and if it matches the current number, maybe no need for a swap?
@@kai76adventure just sharing what I've learnt from the community. Makes the riding journey more fun! Hope you get your chainring and chains sorted soon! 😁
Hi Freddie, thanks for the super insightful video! I just bought one from Fazz thanks to you 🤣 As i’m also 1.83cm tall, i also prefer a more upright position like you. Would Alan be able to help raise my front stem? It’s still too short for me and forces to lean forward and be in a more aggressive and uncomfortable position. Looking forward to your reply!
Hey Linus, glad to know you've gotten your new ride and congratulations! I bought a higher handle bar and seat post but haven't got down to installing it. Hahaha procrastination gotten the better of me. In the next video you'll see I have a whole bunch of minor stuff to install still, but I'll get there soon! Btw If you get the parts, I think you can either DIY or any Mechanic would be able to assist you easily. ;)
@@fredphua Hi Fred.. i am a tall dude too.. i wonder how should i go about getting it? I buy the bike from Fazzbike and then separately take it to Alan?
@@eddygoh4768 hey Eddy, I have a separate video on how I adjusted my positioning. You don't need to go to any specific mechanic or shop, I think it's more about getting the right parts. You might want to check out the Vid on how I fit myself on the bike for more context about what I'm referring to? Hope it helps.
Thanks Freddie... I know the topic is another but I noticed your sandals. I'm looking for something to cycle in hot and humid Singapore weather but traditional sandals or slippers and clogs might not be appropriate. What are you wearing here? Thanks :)
Hey Antonio, I'm wearing a Nike Air Rift. Probably not the best option to address humidity, I only use it for super short rides and if I think I need to look cool 🤣. Anyway, check these out! Do let me know if you manage to hunt them down somewhere, been looking for another pair but no luck on my side. 😊👍
Hi Andrey, in my opinion, the Schwalbe Marathon Plus/Racers? I currently have the Continental Contact Urban and I suspect it might work pretty well too. My 2 cents' worth basing on personal experience only. 😁
I like the “brutal truth” at the 11:37 mark. I bet you could well afford the big B. But cool head prevails. I agree with your thoughts. The X factor is really more “snob appeal”. The 3Sixty and others like it (eg Pikes, MobotCamp) are much better value propositions. Thank god that patents have a limited lifespan. This tri-fold design has become one of the dominant bike designs.
Hey Megan, thank you for leaving your questions. If I am not mistaken, Y-Bar has a slight raise as compared to the straight S-Bar, but the bar is of a lower profile as compared to an M. Assuming the stem length is the same for both M & Y, it will mean Y-Bar will be slightly lower for the user to grip. No good and bad there, all depends on the person's body geometry and preference. You can check out another video I've made on my attempt to fit myself on the bike, maybe that'll help explain the "bar height" factor better. Hope it helps! :)
@@emoemoleb my pleasure. I got it from A.M cycle in my description below, honest chap. And I'm sure you are enjoying your ride! I find myself going everywhere with it.. hahaha enjoy!!
Hi fred! Did u try the S handlebar type? Thoughts on this? About to pull the trigger on this but m bars are all out of stock. I have the same height and weight as you (although much flabbier! :P)
Hey, thank you for dropping by. I did not try the S bar and will think it will not suit me. I did a latest video explaining why I'm experiencing some pains riding this and how I go about solving it. I think going through that might give u a better idea of why I'd think the S bar wouldn't suit me. Hope it helps. 👍
@@fredphua thanks for the reply! Went through the vid, very informative. i see you've upgraded the seatpost and handlebar even with the stock m bar. I think i might do the same although im worried abt the clearance and length of cables from converting the s-type bar. I think im just gonna pull the trigger and purchase it tmrw!
@@Eeessz cool, I'm sure you'd be fine. In any case, if it doesn't work out, it's a perfect opportunity to switch out the cables to a color that suits your bike's color scheme! 😀 have fun and ride pain-free. 👍
Thanks for dropping by YX. No particular reason really, I just wasn't exposed to it when I was shopping around. And I really narrow down my choice based more on a mechanic I can really trust which is Faz. Hope this answers the question.
Hello sir, love your video content! May i ask where do you get the parts from? As well as i dont know how to change the bicycle parts myself, where would you recommend for this type of service?
Thank you for your kind words. Sorry I missed this comment, it kind of got buried in the sea of comments. I am from Singapore so I'm not sure if the information will be useful. In any case, I've gotten most of my parts online through the usual platforms and would fix it up myself. For more complicated modifications on my Foldie, I'd go to A.M Cycle (8870 7101) for help. A mobile mechanic and nice chap! If you're from SG too and would like to visit, say you're recommended by Freddie! :D
Bro, very good review. I am also facing the same issue of the seatpost being too low with my bike. Can you share your experience of changing seatpost. What did you buy? What length etc. I cannot see many options online.
Hey Prashant, I have bought it for some time but haven't installed it and have procrastinated on this video on the seatpost + handlebar the longest. Shall get down to doing it! :D
Hi, thanks for your detailed review. May I know the model? I asked retailer and he told me it's Silver, 2021 6 speeds, M bar. He cant provide any specs, and I am afraid that it's not the same as yours. Your bike was made in China or Korea? Thanks in advance!
Hey Thuy, thank you for your comments. Mine is an "Electric Chrome" version and I believe it is made in China. Mine is a 6 speed and M bar too, that said I think there's nothing to be afraid of if it's different from my version. It could be even better than this but more importantly suits your preference? ;) Hope it helps.
Thanks for your swift response. I am not aware yours is electric version. I did have a Dahon bike, but decided to have a 3Sixty for the confort with M bar as you mentioned.
Thanks for your comment. Tough one trying to quantify with data in my upcoming video, so it's going to be very opinion based. :D Anyway, I had the Kojak and didn't like it in the wet. One looks very similar to the Kojak but with rotational thread (maybe improved grip in wet?) and being thicker, so it's something I'd like to try in future. I prefer to have something that's more all-weather without being too heavy (impact rotational mass), therefore the racer. I don't think the rolling resistance between the 2 is too far off too, given that the racer can pump up to a higher PSI to offset the higher rolling resistance by the threads a little. Anyway, probably won't feel much difference in the real world but with added grip in wet? ;)
Interesting video. I'm curious how the gears are spaced. I have a 6-speed Brompton and find the the jumps between the 3 pairs of gears (so from 1+ to 2- and 2+ to 3-) quite large. Are these more equally spaced on the 3sixty?
Haven't done my research on the exact jumps. But they are using the S-RF3 hubs, so theoretically the jump gaps should be about 20-30+% between each if memory serves me right? Just basing on riding experience alone without the math, I'd say the jumps are quite high. I'd get complacent on an uphill sometimes and overshift, before long... my whistling stops and I start to struggle a little. hahaha
@@fredphua Thanks. I don't know what the exact ratios are, either. It's like you said, 6 speed is more than acceptable for commuting. Anyhow, maybe I'll discuss with my dealer what exchanging the two front chainrings can do for me. The two gears in the middle are great though, I use those 90% of the time.
Thank you so much. Haha I'm impressed by how attentive some of the folks are. A few of the viewers actually noticed, it's a Nike Air Rift by the way. Check it out! ;)
Hi Freddie I’m a newbie to foldable bike. After watching your video, I’ve narrowed my search to the 360 that you were making a review. May I know where you got your bike from? I’ve been looking at the website it all comes in 3 speed only. Thank you
Hi Eric, thank you for dropping by. I got mine from Fazz360 instead of a online. They do tune ups and checks before delivery, with frame warranty. So I went with them. Hope you find your dream bike soon! 👍
Hey Julian, I've just checked back on my orders and realize it's no longer available. Sharing for ref though: www.aliexpress.com/item/4001124796110.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.dcd44c4d9x9xie
Hey, I have since moved on to another similar foldie that you can see in my channel and have given this to a relative who rides often. She's still enjoying every mile of it, so I think it's a good bike as long as it suits your needs. 👍
Hey Nicholas, I did this many months back. Since then, other brands like Aceoffix has came up with chrome colors, you might wabt to check them out. I read many shared that the chrome ones seem to have issues with them rusting though, might want to take note.
@@fredphua Thanks for the honest feedback. I heard of the rust issue as well bt any tips on how are u managing it? i heard this usually occur due to the steel material and the clear coloured chrome coat/plating. Or doest it occur due to the batch issue?
@@nicholasleong9454 hey Nicholas, I am not 100% sure about the cause. Well, I get some rust here and there when I had it (I now ride an Avro) but nothing that'd be a major eye sore. I probably wouldn't rely on getting the right batch to circumvent this as well. Hardly within our control afterall.
Fred, I’m moving from Seattle to Singapore in a month and am brand new to folding bikes. I’m considering buying a Brompton honestly because I don’t know of any other brands. Would you recommend I buy one from the US or buy it from Singapore?
Hey Kevin, exciting times to be moving and welcome in advance! If you're looking to buy a Brompton and prioritize the time needed to get one, maybe you could consider getting one in the US if they are available? Official channels here to get a Brompton has a long queue (a year in waiting list if I'm not wrong) and the alternative would be to buy from resellers at a premium. So might want to compare the prices and consider the local support before deciding? My 2 cents. 😉
Thanks for the video, Freddie! I’m in the midst of searching for my 2nd Pikes and would like the tires and crankset to be changed upon purchase. What was the reason you chose Schwalbe Marathon Racer over Schwalbe One?
Hey Gary, I got it from A.M cycles in my description box. I am going to talk about tyres soon, but in short I like the threads that are good in the wet. Tempted to try the Ones though! 😊
Hello Freddie, thank you for your sharing! Really helpful! I am thinking about buying a folding bike as well. I can't agree more with you that Brompton maybe better, but probably it is not better in a way that justify a double or triple premium in price. I guess people like Brompton because of its folding mechanism. It will be the first choice in people if they provide choices cheaper in price with downgrading certain compartments.
Hey Chris, thank you for your comments. Yeah, there will always be advocates in both camps and I guess it all boils down to individual priorities. I hope you'll manage to find your ideal bike soon... whatever it is I am sure you will enjoy it. Meanwhile stay safe! 😀
Hey, thank you for the compliments. I've gotten mine for about SGD1K but I think the prices have fallen slightly of late. Haven't been following too closely. Might want to check out the shops and happy hunting! :D
I got the hummingbird single speed with carbon wheels. It is a masterpiece, although expensive. Even though its a single speed, it is so light and well designed that a little bit of pedaling and it just keeps going and going.... its really incredible and unlike any other portable bike I've ever tried, I think I will never buy another.
Hi, I've got a question. Would you ever freely lock your bike outside while getting errands done or do you think it's best to avoid locking it as it's a more sought after brand?
09:37 - Is it actually possible to exchange the handlebar with one that has different dimensions, on the 3-sixty? With Brompton this is not possible, because each height has all the parts involved in the folding process positioned specifically. (Or is there a multiposition handlebar that matches the specs, or maybe custom Ergon grips?). Btw 13:16, yeah you should definitely get a longer seatpost, if you cycle regularly and want to keep your knees healthy.
To the first question, I actually do not know for sure. But there are handlebars available in the market that raises the height a little (2-3cm?), which seem to work (I won't say it will work until I've tried it myself). I too am worry about the the potential of it rubbing against the floor after I switch it out, but I've done some preliminary measurements and it appears fine. I hope it'll turn out ok, my handlebar got cancelled cause of shipping issues. Will keep everyone posted when the parts arrive and I switch it out! :)
@vanderslagmulders It is possible. Just make sure the handlebar has the same diameter (at the handlebar bolt), otherwise it would not fit your stem. The length of the handlebar can be cut with a copper pipe cutter to your desired length. Note that if you change to a higher/lower handlebar you would also need to change the cables, as the folding would otherwise be affected by the (too short/long) cables.
Yeah, I've heard many folks do that to save weight. Haven't had a chance to try a Single speed or 3 speed to know the difference, hopefully one day I'll get to try it out. :D
Surprisingly Brompton actually uses a lower grade of high tensile steel. 1 year~ wait for them is probably the reason most go for the cheaper clones. Your balcony looks familiar! Seletar park residence?:D
Thank you for your review. Brompton is burning a big hole in my pocket therefore I’m considering Pikes or 3sixty. S bar or M bar. 3 speed or 6 speed. Caught in the middle for these. Also I’m worry the bike will become a white elephant at the corner of the house too. Thank you for your honest review and gave me a heads up about 3sixty.
Thank you for your comment Jessy. Yes, I have the same concern about it being a white elephant so went with this. But so far, proven to be more than sufficient for leisurely scenic rides. Hope your ideal ride soon! 😁👍
Brompton is over priced, the frame design is the only good thing about it, that is why i also got a "clone" as i can upgrade nearly everything on it and it will be cheaper then a brompton and have a better ride quality. My friend has two bromptons one with titanium and they all pretty much ride the same only thing is weight. I think the clones weigh slightly less then a Brompton
Great to see your sharing. We (hubby & me) have been considering buying our 2 foldies that can serve our casual scenic rides & still debating which Brand to commit - Brompton, Birdy or Dahon We don’t want to pay the high prices & later our bikes become white elephants. I’m more concerned about the weight but not my hubby. We’re not in any rush as we currently have a btwin & a Raleigh which my hubby alternates to ride to the gym. Just wondering if this 3 sixty has a lighter foldable. Thanks
Thanks for the comment Sherlin. Indeed, I had the same concern of my foldable bike becoming a white elephant (happened to be twice already! :D ) after dropping a huge sum of money on it. I think I'm quite happy with the utility of this vs the price I paid, happy so far. To your question on lighter versions, I've seen other people put on a bunch of titanium stuff on it (Fork, rear triangle, carbon wheels) on their 3sixty to bring the weight down but I'm not familiar with ride quality etc since I haven't ridden one. Happy hunting!
Hi. Have you tried taken out the white sticker on the side of the stem facing you? There is a local review that claimed that there was a definite parallelogram shape black base after he peeled of the rectangular shape "before you ride" sticker at the area mentioned. I believe the bike's colour is camelion blue. Any comments on that? Anyone tried and experience the same?
Thanks for dropping by David. Sorry, didn't get the black base part of the question but I removed the sticker before applying some paint protection film on it (you can check out the "knick knack series" video). Hope it helps!
thanks a lot for sharing. I heard that brompton does not or fully compatible with 3rd party accessories or any after-market non brompton spares. Does 3sixty have this issue? I do not undermine your statement, brompton is really over-priced which i think the price tagged on is the brand and the expired patent. I feel that is not about the affordability, but rather is the overall experience and feel. If the riding experience is identical to brompton, why pay more? these days is really about practicability > Brands
Hey Levon, appreciate your comment. I do not know which accessories specifically you're referring to, but so far I've gotten a bunch of them that is fine. I do know that the parts are not always interchangeable amongst the brands, so maybe do some research first before buying will be good. So far works fine for me. Hope this helps! As for my statement on why I didn't choose the B, well it's really only my own opinion. There will always be different lenses to this, but ultimately I say let's just enjoy whatever rides we have. 😁😁
I’m 180cm n I tried sitting on the 360 I felt that the handle bar is too near. If for long distance ride, I’m afraid it might be too tiring to be keeping myself sitting upright n hands controlled for the short body length of the 360. Don’t u feel so?
Thank you for your comment. I have a different experience on this and will lean towards the opposite analogy. I actually made a video to show I generically bike fitted myself to this. But well, that's just me. Hope you'll find a way to solve your comfort issues soon!
Hey Caleb, thank you for the kind words. The bag mount came standard with the Bike and I bought the bag from where I bought the bike. The details of the shop is in my description box below, else there are other options available online (Aliexpress etc). Hope it helps.
Hi Freddie..what brand n model is this..I def prefer your bike over expensive Brompton...commuter bike should be affordable to all...btw I own carbon Rd bike too by lapierre
It's a 3Sixty as mentioned in the vid. Yeap, everyone will have their different perspectives and preferences for various reasons. These are just mine. Hope it's useful. 😊
Just an update on the 3sixty i own. I have been riding it back home from work almost every day except weekends, which is about 21km. No problem at all. Highly recommend you to upgrade the bottom bracket and the crankset to something lighter plus a bigger size pedal. A big pedal makes the riding experience much more pleasant.
Thank you for your comments, good to know you're enjoying your ride. Thank you for the cool tips too!
Thank you. I was amazed at how many foldable bikes I spotted in Singapore and this got me very interested in this sort of bike for leisure and fitness cycling. ❤
This is the first video of yours that I've watched. I admire your honesty about not being able to afford a Brompton - so much more refreshing than the aggressive "why would I spend so much of my hard earned money on a Brompton?!" style. 🙂 I love the rollers on this machine - that looks like technical one area that scores points over Brompton's bicycle. I'll certainly be looking into these Paikes bikes now. Thanks 👍🏼
i would not spend that much on a tiny little bike. people are smarter nowadays knowing that a lot of things are way overpriced and stopped brand worshiping. it's pretty much a status symbol of bikes for older people and status symbol is cringe
One of the most informative reviews by a real user. Learnt a lot about foldies of this form factor as well as the different brands.
Appreciate the comments! Just sharing my own thoughts. Hope you found it useful! 🙂
Wow! Thanks, bro! I watched the entire video! Cool honest review. And yup, I'm a sucker for aesthetics too! Thanks for recommending Faz too!
interesting with all the gear shifting located in the rear wheel, quick practical and seems to be ideal for a small form factor bike
I got my 3 speed 3sixty from taobao. It's cheap but the parts are also cheap except the body. I upgraded the BB, crankset, pedals, handlebar covers, shifters, shock absorber, rear derailleur and also changed the straight bar to the M bar. Note that the rear derailleur by litepro need abit of filing to fit to the 3sixty. Then the bike is perfect. I have owned road bike, mountain bike and now this foldie is perfect for portability and it run fast too!
Cool, glad you're enjoying your ride!
How much is your total costs after the upgrades? I spent 300+ for the upgrade of my trifold bike (600+).
Excellent video! Great comparison thoughts you got here, a newbie like me will likely go for the similar one like yours in terms of cost saving. Simply love the Electro silver color, litepro crank and tier of your 3 Sixty.... very unique & cool. Thanks for your time and effort in sharing, i am sure it will benefit most of people out there for their 1st foldie buying choices. Stay safe and take care mate~
Appreciate the kind words Louis. You take care and stay safe too! Keep us posted when it's new bike day for you! :D
Solid, most relevant video. Been looking for a honest no frills review like this for long..
Appreciate you taking the time to leave me these words Prashant. 🙂
Thanks for the great review. We apparently can't get the 360 here in the US. And yet... I can see a market for a more affordable Brompton like foldable bike.
It seems great - enjoy!
Appreciate the kind words Jennie.
To be honest, any comparison with a Brompton can only be objectively made if you've owned and ridden both a genuine and clone for some time. Otherwise, the main basis for comparison is almost always going to center around retail price, and Bromptons are hand-made in England which accounts for their higher cost. Enjoy your bike, I have the same front carrier block bag 😊
Thank you for your comment. I especially appreciate your thoughts on objectivity.
Though this video is not a 1:1 comparison but rather centered around the introduction of my new bike and sharing my own thought process to distill the choices in the market, I'd still think any attempts by anyone (even with the best intentions) to make a 1:1 comparisons will still be open to subjectivity to varying extents because it will encapsulate one's opinions when drawing comparisons.
The country of manufacture may explain the higher cost structure/price point in products, but at least in my opinion for this case, may not explain how it should naturally translate to superior quality that will Correspond/Align/Match the market premiums. I am not disagreeing with the superior quality (I love the build on the B!), but the question I struggled with is on the alignment i.e is it really that much better to justify 2-3x the price?
I guess it all boils down to how much one is willing to pay for craftsmanship at the point of purchase which is subjective in itself. Objectivity - really quite an ideal. :) Thank you for getting me thinking, I love these conversations with my viewers, hope you don't find them boring.
Enjoy your ride too (maybe together some day!), let's chat more on other subjects as they come. Have a great weekend. :)
Thanks Fred. I'm thinking of 3sixty vs brompton. Cos the latter bike is of higher cost which not that I can't afford but being an amateur rider who cycle for leisure, I want to get a bike which can fits my budget too. 😅
Thank you Fred for sharing!. I have a rifle RD-10 bifold bicycle. Perhaps I should switch to a trifold bicycle some day. 😀 I like the way the bicycle folds into something so compact and stylish. Now I know more about the functionality of an M-bar versus the other shape bars.
Thank you, glad it helped in some ways!
Have you tried one of those u-shaped seat suspension things for extending the seat height while adding comfort? I have it on my folding bike and am pretty happy with it, actually
Been thinking about getting a 3 speed Pikes. I already have 3 different kind of bikes at home, so I don't want to spend like $3k for Brompton. The reason for trifold is I can bring it on train so it's a good bike for holiday.
Hi Fred, good to see such an honest review I was not aware of this brand however now that I know will surely consider this.
Fred, I also like your footwear If you can share the link for that as well.
Thanks !!
Really appreciate your good and clear review on 3sixty. Where can I buy this from, esp. the electro silver color.
Found your info. TQ
Super useful!!! Thanks bro! Kudos! Looking forward to ur vids.
Thank you Fred.. What you said in the first sentence was very important, since that is me. Brompton is out of my budget but I am considering others. Maybe you have something to share with me. In fact, I had in mind. Pikes 9, 3Sixty and Mint with 9 gears. (there are others, but too many to mention) in fact, you helped me with T or M handle bard question, I didn't know what to choose. (in Taobao you have the option to select that)
1) Apart from that, the back wheel in the rack, are very different from Brompton, and the Brompton Rack is longer, any difference?
2) The front cassette has no protection, like Pikes. Pikes of the frame it is a little bigger, right?
3) Have you tried it in a rough areas? I would like to add semi-rough tires if you think that is a good suggestion
4) Pikes offers 9 gears and MINT too, but not 3Sixty. I suppose that you are happy with it
5) Not important, but I saw that you recently recorded that, ruclips.net/video/hb15y6uglE0/видео.html didnt you miss the mud-guard in that one?
anyway, thank you for answering if possible.
Hey Peter, thanks for the questions and I'll try my best to offer my views on them. I didn't really take a close look at the rack and mudguard but I guess as long as they are functional, it'll be good enough for most users and any difference should (in my view) not play a big role in ride quality. I've had mine removed from my new Avro bike for a sportier look 😁. I've ridden them over rough areas like gravel paths, but not for long. Not deliberately, but usually because they are part of the route I take. During the short distance, no major issues. Yes, i am super happy with my Avro with extermal gears for reasons described in my other video but thats just me. Many would prefer internal hub set ups, so really up to individuals. Hope this helps in your bike hunt!
@@fredphua Thank you for your help, now that that you have people that have let you bikes for reviews, it would be nice to see the difference between the Royale, Litepro, Mint, Pikes, 3sixty.. I know that it might be a lot, but interesting video comparison.
About the gears, Internal or external, I dont really know the difference.
Thanks, I just picked up the same bike thanks to this review.
Thank you for leaving your comments, glad it helped somehow. More importantly, hope you'll have lots of fun with your new ride! 😉👍
That's true my friend. I sold my Brompton and bought myself a 3sixty.. different brand with same feeling. I also bought from faz360. Very nice guy. I just do some upgrade and ready to go.
Thank you for sharing your views on the 2. You have owned both, and would have ridden them for a longer time, I'm sure your views would be more accurate than mine. Haha and yes Faz for the win! 😁
@@fredphua Brompton must really take care. Clean every outing to prevent corrosion. For 3sixty with the same material don't need too much care. I just wash it once a month.
@@mohdsabrijanuri thank you for sharing. May I ask if it is because B seems to be more prone to corrosion or is it because of a higher price point, therefore the extra care? Just trying to understand. :)
@@fredphua higher price point is 1 thing.. Corrosion is the same.. Only I realise my 3sixty, inner frame tube also they put paint coating that can prevent from corrosion as well.. My Brompton inner tube can see the corrosion after wash
@@mohdsabrijanuri thank you for the insights. I wouldn't have had long enough exposure with a B to know this. Interesting!
Thanks for honest sharing, hope to see a follow up video after owning it for more than a year. Cheers!
Thank you, unlikely will do one soon. But great so far! 😁👍
@@fredphua any comment as compare to Pikes?
Very good review. My cuz just got one in SG for a fraction. So far so good, will have to wait a bit to see a review on reliability. Like many basic things here it is so over priced, glad to see some competition to spur innovation.
Appreciate the kind words, it's encouraging. I appreciate your comments too, they're objective. I share the same view that it hopefully it will spur innovation or at least a more efficient way of manufacturing to drive the prices down. But again, I'm sure I'm oversimplifying things. And yes, I also agree that it will take some time to discover the reliability of this, hope it lasts, fingers crossed! 😁
where are u from?
@@sufrihadi UK. Why?
@@ODOB just want to know where the expensive bikes are
@@sufrihadi The original version is Brompton made in London, England.
Mine new 3Sixty that recently just bought got a issues. The 3 cables for brake & gears was too short! That is the con for mine. Yours I look at it is ok. Should be factory or the set up issues. Mine from Bike Companion.
Ah, I see. Shouldn't be a tough solve switching out the cables, best of luck and enjoy your new ride!
Ya, just need to look for any shop to solve it if not replace new shifter with cables. Stock shifter not as idea.
@@zoomturf On the bright side, good opportunity to switch out cables that suit your color scheme! 😉👍
Thanks for detailed sharing, we are all suckers for colors after all the specs🤓
Haha I'm 100% guilty.
Hello Freddie, can I ask do you experience rust issue for this chrome 3Sixty ?
Hey ST, yes I'm seeing some rust issue on my chrome 3sixty as well. Tried a few methods and wanted to share them if they worked, but unfortunately they didn't. So I guess I'll probably look to paint it down the road if it gets worse... :D
@@fredphua Oh..thanks for sharing !! I guess its part and parcel of having a chrome bike.
@@stlim9144 yup yup, so for me it's just enjoying the chrome look while it lasts.. then think of what's the next color scheme. 😁
Just got a tri-fold. Still struggling on the folding part. 🤕
@@2parkway hey congrats on the new bike. I recall there are many videos online teaching ppl how to fold/unfold it. Check it out? Hope it helps.
@@fredphua Yes, watching and practicing.
Can you come up with a review of its measurment. I have bad experience buying bicycle that I have difficulty reaching the handlebar; Thanks
Hey I made a video addressing some of the issues I had with the fit. May not be 100% applicable, but hope some aspects will. Cheers.
Nice review on the 360 ..Thank you for sharing
Appreciate the kind words!
thank you for sharing. would be good if you could do some comparison between different clones and brompton. btw, the recording volume is not consistent and is loud and sometimes really not audible with road noice interfering with your voice. can try recording what you want to present by doing a record over your original sound trek. this way, you can control your volume better. however, i do enjoy your interesting video...
You mentioned that you intend to have a longer seat post and a taller steering post (stem) too. where can we get those and what kind of pricing are they? would appreciate if you could kindly advice on this. thanks in advance.
Hey David, apologies. I realized I forgot to reply to this. Appreciate the feedback, gotten a wireless mic after this first vid :D . As for the items required for the fit, I'd say major online platforms (Lazada, Aliexpress etc) sell them in different specs. I can't recall the exact price, but I think it can range from 30+ bucks to over 100+, depending on material/brand etc. Just prowl through the sites and I'm sure you can find something that suits your needs. :)
@@fredphua Hey Fred... thanks for your kind reply and for the info on purchasing those upgrading options. appreciate your reply.
Quite interesting to notice yr chainring & gear system is on the left side. Standard bike is on the right correct?
You can adjust the handle bar distance from the seat to give yourself extra arm distance.
Thank you for the tip! Do you mean adjusting the seat's Aft & Fore to get the distance? Or do you mean tilting the handle bar slightly forward?
Which trifold excluding Brompton have the most rigid build? Least flexy and bendy.
Hey Fred, tks for the sharing. Just one quick question, wondering if you would recommend this for a new-user(Not super savvy rider) & height of 165cm? I am also trying to explore one that can bring me via public transport too. Thanks.
Hey Patricia, pleasure's mine. There's some adjustability to the seat height etc, and I'd think you'd be well within comfortable range at 165cm. This is also really good to bring up public transport, so I'd think it fits your criteria well. One suggestion would be to go down to retailers of different brands (Brompton, Pikes, 3Sixty etc) to try them out to see if which you like best before committing. Hope this helps! ;)
Thanks for your review which comes just right in time as I'm on the fence between Pikes and 3sixty. Now, like yourself, I'm 1.8m, and you mentioned the frame of Pikes is about an inch longer than 3sixty, and you felt a tad more comfortable riding on Pikes. So in your opinion, would you have saved on upgrading if you have chosen Pikes?
Hey Simon, thank you for your comments. The stuff that I've done so far doesn't affect the geometry in any way. I've just gotten my longer seat post and handlebars to fit better on the bike, but I think the cost for these items are pretty manageable. Short answer is that, comparatively I don't think I'll save on upgrading if I've chosen a Pikes. Most stuff I've done are not out of absolute necessity anyway :D Hope it helps.
Thanks Fred, I have kinda decided I will go with 3sixty. Enjoyed your videos so far. Keep up the good work!
@@simongoh5580 thank you and glad it helped in some ways. Be sure to join the FB group which is an awesome community. Meanwhile, enjoy the miles on your upcoming new bike! 😁👍
@@fredphua yes I have joined the 3sixty and Pikes groups. Useful tips always for noobs like me
Peace to all readers, whatever copy car or copy dealership stolen, we are not Greer to scream and shout, I don't really care much about trademarks TM and such, let's enjoy the ride as far as we are concerned about healthy greenfield yet car lite. Thx U Freddie for your generous inputs and sharing . Tons of love ❤️
Thank you Keith, grateful for this comment. Share the same view, we are only enjoying our rides and the process of modding it. 😊👍
Can u recommend me who can do the upgrade for me Java velo 20 inches to Hallotech crank & chainring etc
Nice review. Sir where did you buy your seatpost? what brand and model?
Appreciate the comments. The one you see in this video is actually stock.
Thank you for a very informative video.
Hello. Do you have a constant clicking noise when you are actioning the pedals of your 3sixty bike? I ask you this question because with a Brompton, this noise is coming from the gearbox...it's not the same than when you stop to pedal and still running. It's another clicking sound from the gearbox hub. Thanks for your help ;-)
Hey thank you for dropping by. I have no recollection of any clicking sound that continued to run after I stop pedaling. Not sure if I get the question correctly, hope it helps.
@@fredphua hello. My question is not after you finish pedaling, but during you are pedaling. A clic...clic...clic sound from the gear hub at the center of the rear wheel...sorry if my question is not clear, I'm not fluent ;-)
@@mattiuzzididier8911 ah, no no, dont apologise for fluency. 😉 Yes, I have the same clicking sound when I pedal. That comes from the internal hub which engages the gears a little differently. Hope this helps
The Brompton design is now out of patent. This is basically a good copy right down to the gears.
Hi Freddie, thanks for the informative video. Can I check with you where you get your telescopic seat post? Thanks. :)
Thank you Yong Quan. I got it from someone off carousell a while back. Might want to search online to see if anyone sells it?
@@fredphua okay thanks for the reply! :)
Hi nice video n sharing experience...
May i knw when u replace to the 53T chain ring do u need to replace to a longer chain?
Ori is 9spèed chain if im not wrong..planning to replace mine to a hollowtech but not sure need to replace the chain..thks
Thank you for the encouragement. Yes, I did change it to a new 9 spd chain. I think there are many online discussions on the exact number of links required for 53T. You might want to look it up and if it matches the current number, maybe no need for a swap?
Thks Bro for the sharing, learning lots frm ure vid...hope to see more vid frm u...Cheers
@@kai76adventure just sharing what I've learnt from the community. Makes the riding journey more fun! Hope you get your chainring and chains sorted soon! 😁
Hi Freddie, thanks for the super insightful video! I just bought one from Fazz thanks to you 🤣
As i’m also 1.83cm tall, i also prefer a more upright position like you. Would Alan be able to help raise my front stem? It’s still too short for me and forces to lean forward and be in a more aggressive and uncomfortable position. Looking forward to your reply!
Hey Linus, glad to know you've gotten your new ride and congratulations! I bought a higher handle bar and seat post but haven't got down to installing it. Hahaha procrastination gotten the better of me. In the next video you'll see I have a whole bunch of minor stuff to install still, but I'll get there soon! Btw If you get the parts, I think you can either DIY or any Mechanic would be able to assist you easily. ;)
@@fredphua Hi Fred.. i am a tall dude too.. i wonder how should i go about getting it? I buy the bike from Fazzbike and then separately take it to Alan?
@@eddygoh4768 hey Eddy, I have a separate video on how I adjusted my positioning. You don't need to go to any specific mechanic or shop, I think it's more about getting the right parts. You might want to check out the Vid on how I fit myself on the bike for more context about what I'm referring to? Hope it helps.
Very good reviews. Thank you
Thanks Freddie... I know the topic is another but I noticed your sandals. I'm looking for something to cycle in hot and humid Singapore weather but traditional sandals or slippers and clogs might not be appropriate. What are you wearing here? Thanks :)
Hey Antonio, I'm wearing a Nike Air Rift. Probably not the best option to address humidity, I only use it for super short rides and if I think I need to look cool 🤣. Anyway, check these out! Do let me know if you manage to hunt them down somewhere, been looking for another pair but no luck on my side. 😊👍
@@fredphua they look cool, yes :)
I've also got a 3sixty, almost like the original, cheaper by a lot. Modification/ spare parts are expensive though.
Hope you're enjoying your bike! I haven't really gotten down the modification part though, let's hope I can stay "controlled". :D
Good afternoon! What tires can be put on wheels for driving on loose surfaces? Like sand or fine gravel?
Hi Andrey, in my opinion, the Schwalbe Marathon Plus/Racers? I currently have the Continental Contact Urban and I suspect it might work pretty well too. My 2 cents' worth basing on personal experience only. 😁
@@fredphua Also, are you planning to change the factory 3 speed hub to a 7 speed hub?
I like the “brutal truth” at the 11:37 mark. I bet you could well afford the big B. But cool head prevails. I agree with your thoughts. The X factor is really more “snob appeal”. The 3Sixty and others like it (eg Pikes, MobotCamp) are much better value propositions. Thank god that patents have a limited lifespan. This tri-fold design has become one of the dominant bike designs.
Hey Philip, thank you for your comments. Likewise, I am also grateful that this well thought out design has become more accessible. :)
Hi Fred, I was offered a Ybar for 3 sixty. Not sure what is the difference between M bar and Y bar. Can you share your thoughts?
Hey Megan, thank you for leaving your questions. If I am not mistaken, Y-Bar has a slight raise as compared to the straight S-Bar, but the bar is of a lower profile as compared to an M. Assuming the stem length is the same for both M & Y, it will mean Y-Bar will be slightly lower for the user to grip. No good and bad there, all depends on the person's body geometry and preference. You can check out another video I've made on my attempt to fit myself on the bike, maybe that'll help explain the "bar height" factor better. Hope it helps! :)
@@fredphua many thanks Fred. That's really helpful and great info. Cheers
349 is not for naming only. its the diameter size
Hey thank you for this, missed this comment. Done some reading on this and it's interesting!
I just wonder how different between it and Brompton, my uncle owns a sixty, and the rear wheel frame lock broken and he has to replace one
Thanks for sharing! May I know how much u paid to change your tyres and crank?
Hey, approximately SGD340 in total. Hope this helps.
@@fredphua thanks so much for ur reply. Really nice bike.. I recently just bought the same bike. It's great
@@emoemoleb my pleasure. I got it from A.M cycle in my description below, honest chap. And I'm sure you are enjoying your ride! I find myself going everywhere with it.. hahaha enjoy!!
What happened to the cool left side drive version in the first shot?
Ooh, I see it's back at 5:00.
Hi fred! Did u try the S handlebar type? Thoughts on this? About to pull the trigger on this but m bars are all out of stock. I have the same height and weight as you (although much flabbier! :P)
Hey, thank you for dropping by. I did not try the S bar and will think it will not suit me. I did a latest video explaining why I'm experiencing some pains riding this and how I go about solving it. I think going through that might give u a better idea of why I'd think the S bar wouldn't suit me. Hope it helps. 👍
@@fredphua thanks for the reply! Went through the vid, very informative. i see you've upgraded the seatpost and handlebar even with the stock m bar. I think i might do the same although im worried abt the clearance and length of cables from converting the s-type bar. I think im just gonna pull the trigger and purchase it tmrw!
@@Eeessz cool, I'm sure you'd be fine. In any case, if it doesn't work out, it's a perfect opportunity to switch out the cables to a color that suits your bike's color scheme! 😀 have fun and ride pain-free. 👍
Cool video! Any reason why you didn’t choose the mobot Royale?
Thanks for dropping by YX. No particular reason really, I just wasn't exposed to it when I was shopping around. And I really narrow down my choice based more on a mechanic I can really trust which is Faz. Hope this answers the question.
Hello sir, love your video content!
May i ask where do you get the parts from?
As well as i dont know how to change the bicycle parts myself, where would you recommend for this type of service?
Thank you for your kind words. Sorry I missed this comment, it kind of got buried in the sea of comments. I am from Singapore so I'm not sure if the information will be useful. In any case, I've gotten most of my parts online through the usual platforms and would fix it up myself. For more complicated modifications on my Foldie, I'd go to A.M Cycle (8870 7101) for help. A mobile mechanic and nice chap! If you're from SG too and would like to visit, say you're recommended by Freddie! :D
Bro, very good review. I am also facing the same issue of the seatpost being too low with my bike. Can you share your experience of changing seatpost. What did you buy? What length etc. I cannot see many options online.
Hey Prashant, I have bought it for some time but haven't installed it and have procrastinated on this video on the seatpost + handlebar the longest. Shall get down to doing it! :D
@@fredphua Lovely. Following your channel :)
Hi, thanks for your detailed review. May I know the model? I asked retailer and he told me it's Silver, 2021 6 speeds, M bar. He cant provide any specs, and I am afraid that it's not the same as yours. Your bike was made in China or Korea? Thanks in advance!
Hey Thuy, thank you for your comments. Mine is an "Electric Chrome" version and I believe it is made in China. Mine is a 6 speed and M bar too, that said I think there's nothing to be afraid of if it's different from my version. It could be even better than this but more importantly suits your preference? ;) Hope it helps.
Thanks for your swift response. I am not aware yours is electric version. I did have a Dahon bike, but decided to have a 3Sixty for the confort with M bar as you mentioned.
Fred, thanks for sharing. Why did you choose Schwalbe Marathon Racer over Schwalbe One?
Thanks for your comment. Tough one trying to quantify with data in my upcoming video, so it's going to be very opinion based. :D Anyway, I had the Kojak and didn't like it in the wet. One looks very similar to the Kojak but with rotational thread (maybe improved grip in wet?) and being thicker, so it's something I'd like to try in future. I prefer to have something that's more all-weather without being too heavy (impact rotational mass), therefore the racer. I don't think the rolling resistance between the 2 is too far off too, given that the racer can pump up to a higher PSI to offset the higher rolling resistance by the threads a little. Anyway, probably won't feel much difference in the real world but with added grip in wet? ;)
Interesting video. I'm curious how the gears are spaced. I have a 6-speed Brompton and find the the jumps between the 3 pairs of gears (so from 1+ to 2- and 2+ to 3-) quite large. Are these more equally spaced on the 3sixty?
Haven't done my research on the exact jumps. But they are using the S-RF3 hubs, so theoretically the jump gaps should be about 20-30+% between each if memory serves me right? Just basing on riding experience alone without the math, I'd say the jumps are quite high. I'd get complacent on an uphill sometimes and overshift, before long... my whistling stops and I start to struggle a little. hahaha
@@fredphua Thanks. I don't know what the exact ratios are, either. It's like you said, 6 speed is more than acceptable for commuting. Anyhow, maybe I'll discuss with my dealer what exchanging the two front chainrings can do for me. The two gears in the middle are great though, I use those 90% of the time.
hello fred - well done buddy and thank you for the awesome video. btw - may i know what shoes are you wearing? they look fierce
Thank you so much. Haha I'm impressed by how attentive some of the folks are. A few of the viewers actually noticed, it's a Nike Air Rift by the way. Check it out! ;)
@@fredphua Thx Fred - Keep on reviewing!
Hi, where did you get the from compartment box with clamp?
Hey got it from the bike shop I bought this. There are also options on Aliexpress. Hope it helps.
Hi Freddie I’m a newbie to foldable bike. After watching your video, I’ve narrowed my search to the 360 that you were making a review. May I know where you got your bike from? I’ve been looking at the website it all comes in 3 speed only.
Thank you
Hi Eric, thank you for dropping by. I got mine from Fazz360 instead of a online. They do tune ups and checks before delivery, with frame warranty. So I went with them. Hope you find your dream bike soon! 👍
@@fredphua Hi Fred , thank you for your prompt reply 🙏🏻😃 , I’ll go and get mine from them too … 😃 love your reviews on bikes .. 👍😃
Hi, thanks for your video. Very good. What is your comment on Mobot Camp gold 20inch? Thanks in advance.
Hey Mike, thank you. I have no experience with the Mobots, so probably not in a position to comment. 🙂
Hi Freddie! Could u kindly share details of the handle bar that you upgraded? Appreciate.
Hey Julian, I've just checked back on my orders and realize it's no longer available. Sharing for ref though: www.aliexpress.com/item/4001124796110.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.dcd44c4d9x9xie
Fazz Bike 360 contact number not reachable. Are they still operating?
Freddy do you still recommend this bike? Thanks
Hey, I have since moved on to another similar foldie that you can see in my channel and have given this to a relative who rides often. She's still enjoying every mile of it, so I think it's a good bike as long as it suits your needs. 👍
Thanks mate
Great overview, can I ask where can I get that front luggage pouch? Thank you.
Hey Daron, thank you. I got it from Fazz360 where I got the bike. Check them out! 😉
Any tips where to get this color for electro chome silver? seems like everywhere is out of stock. Love this design
Hey Nicholas, I did this many months back. Since then, other brands like Aceoffix has came up with chrome colors, you might wabt to check them out. I read many shared that the chrome ones seem to have issues with them rusting though, might want to take note.
@@fredphua Thanks for the honest feedback. I heard of the rust issue as well bt any tips on how are u managing it? i heard this usually occur due to the steel material and the clear coloured chrome coat/plating. Or doest it occur due to the batch issue?
@@nicholasleong9454 hey Nicholas, I am not 100% sure about the cause. Well, I get some rust here and there when I had it (I now ride an Avro) but nothing that'd be a major eye sore. I probably wouldn't rely on getting the right batch to circumvent this as well. Hardly within our control afterall.
3sixty fork and triangle is made by chromoly same as the main frame, but pikes fork and triangle is made by hiten steel
I like your shoes, may I know what the brand the model. Anyway good review
Haha thank you, you are the 2nd one that asked. It's a Nike Air Rift. Check it out! ;)
@@fredphua thanks bro
Fred, I’m moving from Seattle to Singapore in a month and am brand new to folding bikes. I’m considering buying a Brompton honestly because I don’t know of any other brands. Would you recommend I buy one from the US or buy it from Singapore?
Hey Kevin, exciting times to be moving and welcome in advance! If you're looking to buy a Brompton and prioritize the time needed to get one, maybe you could consider getting one in the US if they are available? Official channels here to get a Brompton has a long queue (a year in waiting list if I'm not wrong) and the alternative would be to buy from resellers at a premium. So might want to compare the prices and consider the local support before deciding? My 2 cents. 😉
Why did you flip the video horizontally from 4:50 onwards? ^_^
Haha I just randomly put my tablet on the floor to shoot this, should've put more thought into it. 😁😁
Thanks for the video, Freddie! I’m in the midst of searching for my 2nd Pikes and would like the tires and crankset to be changed upon purchase. What was the reason you chose Schwalbe Marathon Racer over Schwalbe One?
Hey Gary, I got it from A.M cycles in my description box. I am going to talk about tyres soon, but in short I like the threads that are good in the wet. Tempted to try the Ones though! 😊
Marathon racer for all-round use with puncture protection. Ones for those who prioritize speed.
Hi Freddie, the small bag is a nice utility. Do you mind sharing the link where you got it from?
Hi, i gotten mine from the bike shop whom i purchased the bike from. I believe this is available online too ( aliexpress, lazada etc). Cheers!
Hello Freddie, thank you for your sharing! Really helpful! I am thinking about buying a folding bike as well. I can't agree more with you that Brompton maybe better, but probably it is not better in a way that justify a double or triple premium in price. I guess people like Brompton because of its folding mechanism. It will be the first choice in people if they provide choices cheaper in price with downgrading certain compartments.
Hey Chris, thank you for your comments. Yeah, there will always be advocates in both camps and I guess it all boils down to individual priorities. I hope you'll manage to find your ideal bike soon... whatever it is I am sure you will enjoy it. Meanwhile stay safe! 😀
the silver metallic frame is so hot!
Thanks bro for the review.
Thank you Abegail, hope it's useful.
Nice review, how much is the bike thanks
Hey, thank you for the compliments. I've gotten mine for about SGD1K but I think the prices have fallen slightly of late. Haven't been following too closely. Might want to check out the shops and happy hunting! :D
I got the hummingbird single speed with carbon wheels. It is a masterpiece, although expensive. Even though its a single speed, it is so light and well designed that a little bit of pedaling and it just keeps going and going.... its really incredible and unlike any other portable bike I've ever tried, I think I will never buy another.
I've just went to do a search and it does look like an awesome piece of machine!
I thought of buying humming bird bicycle also, just concerned on the after sales service after purchasing online.
@@chenkiapng I'm actually selling mine if you are interested. The reason is that I got into kick biking instead and rarely use it.
@@100toeface please let me know how to contact you.
Hi, I've got a question. Would you ever freely lock your bike outside while getting errands done or do you think it's best to avoid locking it as it's a more sought after brand?
Hey Jud, for short errands (eg buying food) I have the preference of locking it while I do the run. Very lazy to fold/unfold 😁
Nice review bro..thanks for sharing
Appreciate your kind words! Pleasure's mine. :)
09:37 - Is it actually possible to exchange the handlebar with one that has different dimensions, on the 3-sixty? With Brompton this is not possible, because each height has all the parts involved in the folding process positioned specifically. (Or is there a multiposition handlebar that matches the specs, or maybe custom Ergon grips?).
Btw 13:16, yeah you should definitely get a longer seatpost, if you cycle regularly and want to keep your knees healthy.
To the first question, I actually do not know for sure. But there are handlebars available in the market that raises the height a little (2-3cm?), which seem to work (I won't say it will work until I've tried it myself). I too am worry about the the potential of it rubbing against the floor after I switch it out, but I've done some preliminary measurements and it appears fine. I hope it'll turn out ok, my handlebar got cancelled cause of shipping issues. Will keep everyone posted when the parts arrive and I switch it out! :)
@@fredphua Thanks for your answer :-)
@vanderslagmulders It is possible. Just make sure the handlebar has the same diameter (at the handlebar bolt), otherwise it would not fit your stem. The length of the handlebar can be cut with a copper pipe cutter to your desired length. Note that if you change to a higher/lower handlebar you would also need to change the cables, as the folding would otherwise be affected by the (too short/long) cables.
6 speed is already overkill in singapore. Single speed saves lots of weight. ;)
Yeah, I've heard many folks do that to save weight. Haven't had a chance to try a Single speed or 3 speed to know the difference, hopefully one day I'll get to try it out. :D
@@fredphua thanks. With brompton not in stock . My friend is considering the 3sixty. Thanks for the informative vids
@@ryanyoutube7315 Pleasure's mine, hope it is useful. :)
Surprisingly Brompton actually uses a lower grade of high tensile steel. 1 year~ wait for them is probably the reason most go for the cheaper clones. Your balcony looks familiar! Seletar park residence?:D
Interesting, I didn't know about the steel grade!
can refer to brompton website, brompton frame is not even low grade hi ten steel, it is mild steel
Lower grade not Low grade.
Thank you for your review. Brompton is burning a big hole in my pocket therefore I’m considering Pikes or 3sixty. S bar or M bar. 3 speed or 6 speed. Caught in the middle for these. Also I’m worry the bike will become a white elephant at the corner of the house too. Thank you for your honest review and gave me a heads up about 3sixty.
Thank you for your comment Jessy. Yes, I have the same concern about it being a white elephant so went with this. But so far, proven to be more than sufficient for leisurely scenic rides. Hope your ideal ride soon! 😁👍
@@fredphua Hi Fred, may I know your 3sixty model pls? Thanks
@@jessylee1243 hey Jessy, I just have a normal 6 speed m bar model. Hope this helps.
nice vid! Just weird to see the video in reverse (crankarm on LEFT of bike) in a few sections ... why ?
Thank you! Haha not sure why too, maybe it's because I switched back and forth between selfie/normal mode. Noob mistake.
Brompton is over priced, the frame design is the only good thing about it, that is why i also got a "clone" as i can upgrade nearly everything on it and it will be cheaper then a brompton and have a better ride quality. My friend has two bromptons one with titanium and they all pretty much ride the same only thing is weight.
I think the clones weigh slightly less then a Brompton
Great to see your sharing. We (hubby & me) have been considering buying our 2 foldies that can serve our casual scenic rides & still debating which Brand to commit - Brompton, Birdy or Dahon
We don’t want to pay the high prices & later our bikes become white elephants. I’m more concerned about the weight but not my hubby.
We’re not in any rush as we currently have a btwin & a Raleigh which my hubby alternates to ride to the gym.
Just wondering if this 3 sixty has a lighter foldable. Thanks
Thanks for the comment Sherlin. Indeed, I had the same concern of my foldable bike becoming a white elephant (happened to be twice already! :D ) after dropping a huge sum of money on it. I think I'm quite happy with the utility of this vs the price I paid, happy so far. To your question on lighter versions, I've seen other people put on a bunch of titanium stuff on it (Fork, rear triangle, carbon wheels) on their 3sixty to bring the weight down but I'm not familiar with ride quality etc since I haven't ridden one. Happy hunting!
Is there an electric version of 3Sixty?
Hi. Have you tried taken out the white sticker on the side of the stem facing you? There is a local review that claimed that there was a definite parallelogram shape black base after he peeled of the rectangular shape "before you ride" sticker at the area mentioned. I believe the bike's colour is camelion blue. Any comments on that? Anyone tried and experience the same?
Thanks for dropping by David. Sorry, didn't get the black base part of the question but I removed the sticker before applying some paint protection film on it (you can check out the "knick knack series" video). Hope it helps!
Hi Freddie; What is the breakdown of yr bike costs? And where to get it with good discount/vakue. Thks for the sharing.
Hey Paul, I didn't get it at any special price. It's SGD1.1k if I recalled correctly. 😊
@@fredphua Thks for reply Freddie. Want to ask you which is better bike 3sixty vs Camp bikes (Mobot)? Which has better value & system(paets etc)? Tks
@@sprint4paul Hi, I will not be in a good position to comment as I have not seen or test ridden the Camp. I'd assume they'd be decent as well?
Is it made out of steel? I’d be worried about the Brompton design in aluminum since aluminum can’t support the single bar designs like that very well.
Thanks for leaving a comment. These are made of Steel. I've seen some Titanium ones around but haven't got the opportunity to try any of those.
thanks a lot for sharing. I heard that brompton does not or fully compatible with 3rd party accessories or any after-market non brompton spares. Does 3sixty have this issue?
I do not undermine your statement, brompton is really over-priced which i think the price tagged on is the brand and the expired patent. I feel that is not about the affordability, but rather is the overall experience and feel. If the riding experience is identical to brompton, why pay more? these days is really about practicability > Brands
Hey Levon, appreciate your comment. I do not know which accessories specifically you're referring to, but so far I've gotten a bunch of them that is fine. I do know that the parts are not always interchangeable amongst the brands, so maybe do some research first before buying will be good. So far works fine for me. Hope this helps!
As for my statement on why I didn't choose the B, well it's really only my own opinion. There will always be different lenses to this, but ultimately I say let's just enjoy whatever rides we have. 😁😁
I’m 180cm n I tried sitting on the 360 I felt that the handle bar is too near. If for long distance ride, I’m afraid it might be too tiring to be keeping myself sitting upright n hands controlled for the short body length of the 360. Don’t u feel so?
Thank you for your comment. I have a different experience on this and will lean towards the opposite analogy. I actually made a video to show I generically bike fitted myself to this. But well, that's just me. Hope you'll find a way to solve your comfort issues soon!
Hi Freddie, thanks for sharing and great video. I really like the front bag and the bag mount. Where did you get those?
Hey Caleb, thank you for the kind words. The bag mount came standard with the Bike and I bought the bag from where I bought the bike. The details of the shop is in my description box below, else there are other options available online (Aliexpress etc). Hope it helps.
@@fredphua Thank you Freddie. Do ride and stay safe
@@calebkumar76 likewise, enjoy your miles!
Hi Freddie, thanks for sharing and great video sir!!!
@@ReaganHasal appreciate your compliment Reagan!
Hello, how's the maintenance on the frame? Easy to clean? Rust issues? I'm looking this colorway too!
Hi, no issues for me but I have seen some who reported on rust issues. :)
Hi Freddie..what brand n model is this..I def prefer your bike over expensive Brompton...commuter bike should be affordable to all...btw I own carbon Rd bike too by lapierre
It's a 3Sixty as mentioned in the vid. Yeap, everyone will have their different perspectives and preferences for various reasons. These are just mine. Hope it's useful. 😊
Sorry wanted to ask why you chose 360 over pikes?
Hey Ezekiel, I simply chose it because it has the electric chrome color at that point in time. not a functional consideration. 😁
Great review!
Hope it is useful. Appreciate the kind words. 😄