This is terrific. Was expecting it to be good, but this is better than I could have imagined. Anything Crass or Steve Ignorant do now is going to attract negative comments from the "haters" (to use an americanism) but I see nothing wrong in bringing these GREAT songs back to the people who it means so much to. I like the new female singer too.
Hello mate, long time no speak. I wasn't there out of choice, if I'd wanted to be there I'd have gone to Ticketmaster* and got one. Also the posters for it had a fuking great Crass logo on the back of them. * Also available from other mainstream outlets.
respect to steve for doing this! he lived the life, he worked hard for CRASS, he earned the right to the perform songs he helped write all those years ago! penny would rather be sitting naked in his farm house discussing the merits of diy compost toilets and CRASS' legacy with a bunch of middle class crusty drop outs! gee, well she's been accepted into the art establishment! no one's sold out, they've all accepted who and what they are!
Where you at this? The gig itself was excellent, yeah yeah it's not the Crass of 25 years ago but I would rather have this then nothing, was a fantastic weekend.
@JonnySpeeding I'm sorry to say that I'm working class or should that be jobless class, I googled this Guy Deboard and after glancing thru his Wiki he has much to do with me as Tory toffs who go hunting. I grew up with football, I love my club, I grew up with Punk Rock, I love my Punk, I listened to Crass because I loveed their music, then I checked their lyrics, I could identify with some and not others. I am pro life, should I stop liking Crass' music now?
No-one would deny that this particular spectacle was thrilling (and Sadie Nine's delivery is pretty engrossing - like Vi Subversa in her heyday) but Crass' position was the antithesis of what the spectacle represented. I think that Steve Ignorant was never bothered by that kind of thing so I guess he doesn't feel the need to justify it to anyone.
Did you think she did a good job? Yes/No? The vast majority of people think she did, I myself thought this song and Bloody Revolutions were the best "Crass" songs of the night, you needed to see it up close to see the intensity that she put into the songs, youtube doesn't do it justice.
It's the same on all the "Crass" vids I upped from that weekend, it's also the same on the various Discharge vids I've came across, saying Dischrage are shite/great with Rat etc etc lol
Well now i am confused, i googled Eve Libetine, and a recent picture of her was posted about 4 years ago, and she looks just like the woman on stage. WTF columbus?
So you really think it was possible to get it exactly the same after all these years? When you were younger did you not like diff takes of certain recordings? I remember loving diff versions of the Pistols early stuff or The Clash or SLF etc etc
Crass didn't open minds, they closed them. They moaned, bitched, complained and hated everything without offering any solutions, alternatives, answers for anyone. They made youth despondent and pessimistic, they played into Thatcher's hands by making the weak weaker.
what is this lady doing? auditioning for the punk version of american idol? this is one of Eve Libertines most powerful songs.. they should stick to the Steve Ignorant tracks...
why do you have to pick holes? steve was an integral part of crass, why should he be described as a weak link. and what would be wrong with a crass reunion. the world needs crass now more than pre-1984. the feeding gig was a bit of nostalgic fun, steve ignorant should be applauded for having the balls to show his face on stage, not told to hide away and preserve the crass legacy to anarachist snobs. the young lads these days who think they're punks by listening to blink 182 need some guidance
Crass is easier to spell ;p Seriously lots of bands do it and get away with it and it's what the tourists want!!! Crass collective does have a nice ring to it though..... Crass collective?
voice is the only thing that soujds right. it all looks and sounds a bit heavy metal to me.... i mdunno any squaters or anarchists that canb afford a stage set up like that....
how can you say its steve playing with conflict. its not conflict. steve shouldve gott better band that didnt prat around like rock stars. looking back it was a great weekend but, its over. good look to sadie for getting up it takes guts. she did her best. the band though were wankers.
The young lads who watch this will learn nothing about CRASS. What they will learn is that everything they believe in is fake. They are enough good contemporary punk bands like for example The Briefs. This is a sellout. Steve shouldn't make people believe this was CRASS. This is a lot of what CRASS stood against. It's not snobbish anarchism to say that. It's an imitation of CRASS (I love that one!). Steve has no balls to present CRASS as another hip underground consumer product. Fuck all this!!!
sell out gig/ this was never what crass were about steve obviously thought fuck it about time i made some money out of this fame/ fare play to him in some respects
YuDongWang, you've missed the whole fucking point, this isn't crass it's one sell out flouting the name of crass. If steve wants to do this do it under his name not crass. Simple.
Hmm. The original; minimalist tension with a train tape and drums behind, drone guitar in one ear, scratchy guitar and bleeps in the other. Ranting, singalong vocals. Rising and falling tempo. This; dull pogo-pop-punk assault on the senses. Some shaven-head-long-shorts rhythm guitarist who acts like a posey refugee from some 'merican nu-metal joke..or an oi! band. Sad.
I don't like her singing at all. Honestly. I know, I've critisized this whole sellout show, but I can still differ between its single components. Sadie nines performance doesn't fit in at all. She sounds like a poor version of one of those girls who sing Star Sprangled Banner before US sports events. What makes me most angry is that some kids might think this is actually CRASS. All the depht is gone. This is just a logo with some marionettes.
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still amazing after all these years.
i will always love crass.
and everything they do.
they changed my life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
wow, they sound awesome! i wish i could of been there!!!
Awesome drumming!!!
Amazing the power of this live!
Love the energy Gee radiates here
saw crass 81,or 82 lpool blu coat best gig ever.woz 12 or 13 still stays with me!
Wow. She fucking felt that. Raw as fuck.
it's was never about their music abilty, it was and is the message that was important.
Good to see what some BBC Essex presenters get up to in their spare time.
I lovelly the vocal this women
classic night, and i think this was the best song, so amazing!!!
This is terrific. Was expecting it to be good, but this is better than I could have imagined. Anything Crass or Steve Ignorant do now is going to attract negative comments from the "haters" (to use an americanism) but I see nothing wrong in bringing these GREAT songs back to the people who it means so much to. I like the new female singer too.
Fucking love her!
Thanks!
Goosebumps!
That wall of sound is fkn brilliant.Sounds a lot better than the full length film of this.Joyful assault on the ears.🎤🔊🦻😊
Hello mate, long time no speak. I wasn't there out of choice, if I'd wanted to be there I'd have gone to Ticketmaster* and got one. Also the posters for it had a fuking great Crass logo on the back of them.
* Also available from other mainstream outlets.
Lei è fantastica energia pura
ICONS!
Simply the best version at all. :-)
this is really powerful
Listening to this with headphones fucking amazing., her voice is like a wall of Buzz ,,,,, Love it want more.
Amazing underated band CRASS no Class
sounds good.
Sadie Nine standing in for Eve, a real moment of insperation, brilliant.
You're not old, you just lived the good and fun years while we're stuck here with emos and gangstas. :)
respect to steve for doing this! he lived the life, he worked hard for CRASS, he earned the right to the perform songs he helped write all those years ago! penny would rather be sitting naked in his farm house discussing the merits of diy compost toilets and CRASS' legacy with a bunch of middle class crusty drop outs! gee, well she's been accepted into the art establishment! no one's sold out, they've all accepted who and what they are!
Damn, I never thought to hear Crass songs being performed by members of Crass in the 21st century.
Wish I could have seen Eve Libertine at No Values 24.
bloody good version,maybe better than the original?
Where you at this?
The gig itself was excellent, yeah yeah it's not the Crass of 25 years ago but I would rather have this then nothing, was a fantastic weekend.
Sweet!
pretty good. i like it.
See Steve Ignorant in No More Propaganda, 77 minute DVD.
exactly!
@JonnySpeeding
I'm sorry to say that I'm working class or should that be jobless class, I googled this Guy Deboard and after glancing thru his Wiki he has much to do with me as Tory toffs who go hunting.
I grew up with football, I love my club, I grew up with Punk Rock, I love my Punk, I listened to Crass because I loveed their music, then I checked their lyrics, I could identify with some and not others.
I am pro life, should I stop liking Crass' music now?
Sadie Nine, google her name she is a DJ who works for BBC radio.
No-one would deny that this particular spectacle was thrilling (and Sadie Nine's delivery is pretty engrossing - like Vi Subversa in her heyday) but Crass' position was the antithesis of what the spectacle represented. I think that Steve Ignorant was never bothered by that kind of thing so I guess he doesn't feel the need to justify it to anyone.
@crasschris1 its either joy de vivre or more likely eve libertine they were the 2 female vocalists with crass
Sadie was fucking excellent, when I look at my master tape which is sharp/better sound you can see how much she put into it, she was 100% excellent.
I think I agree...
she owns
Hope you've got over the worst, this is from October 2007 a Feeding of the 5000 show by Steve Igs and special guests.
czemu mnie tam nie było .
They do look similar, yes.
It's Sadie Nine.
Did you think she did a good job? Yes/No?
The vast majority of people think she did, I myself thought this song and Bloody Revolutions were the best "Crass" songs of the night, you needed to see it up close to see the intensity that she put into the songs, youtube doesn't do it justice.
how you doing janer ? hope youre ok.
It's the same on all the "Crass" vids I upped from that weekend, it's also the same on the various Discharge vids I've came across, saying Dischrage are shite/great with Rat etc etc lol
Well now i am confused, i googled Eve Libetine, and a recent picture of her was posted about 4 years ago, and she looks just like the woman on stage. WTF columbus?
i think this woman did a very good job!
yeah shaved women, kick ass
OMG
You're right. He's got sado favorites (don't check mine though!)
So you really think it was possible to get it exactly the same after all these years?
When you were younger did you not like diff takes of certain recordings? I remember loving diff versions of the Pistols early stuff or The Clash or SLF etc etc
Is that Eve Libertine, or Jor de vive?
XpunkXanarchistX ...My thoughts exactly ...is that Eve Libertine??? I hope so ;)
@noobishdumbberry i know thats steve/whos the woman?
Gee Vaucher, Im pretty sure.
It's an imposter.
haha, i was there dude. i don't think you were.
and no Penny Rimbaud but still good
Screaming babies Screaming babies Screaming babies Screaming babies Screaming babies
technically crass is still broken up thats why none of the members were there. but I dont think anyone can sing this song as good as eve could have.
and a half.
@crasschris1 Sadie Nine google that name and u will see her myspace page.
Well I gotta say these vids I put up of Steve and "friends" have def split the camps.
Proper
aha my bad, well however she is she has an incredible voice!
is that eve?
elle a mal a sa kikinne ?
Crass didn't open minds, they closed them. They moaned, bitched, complained and hated everything without offering any solutions, alternatives, answers for anyone. They made youth despondent and pessimistic, they played into Thatcher's hands by making the weak weaker.
what is this lady doing? auditioning for the punk version of american idol? this is one of Eve Libertines most powerful songs.. they should stick to the Steve Ignorant tracks...
what the hell have the sex pistols got do wiv owt.This song and performance would blow them away.Dont compare art quality wiv shite.
don't we all......?
is this eve libertine?
Sadie nine did a fucking excellent job, not Eve but still.
you haven't addressed a single point i made.
why do you have to pick holes? steve was an integral part of crass, why should he be described as a weak link. and what would be wrong with a crass reunion. the world needs crass now more than pre-1984. the feeding gig was a bit of nostalgic fun, steve ignorant should be applauded for having the balls to show his face on stage, not told to hide away and preserve the crass legacy to anarachist snobs. the young lads these days who think they're punks by listening to blink 182 need some guidance
@JonnySpeeding You could say Tough shit Janer, then again I'm a non meat eater years.
Crass is easier to spell ;p
Seriously lots of bands do it and get away with it and it's what the tourists want!!!
Crass collective does have a nice ring to it though.....
Crass collective?
i saw crass a dozen times,sounds like her ,but thats noy her surely ,god im old
Eve is better at what exactly
the "anti-wing". now THAT is catchy.
you're 43?!
hehe
She's fuckin' scary! HAHA
who the fuck is that murdering eves vocals?
Chicken in a basket Crass! Fuckin awful!
I with you mate. Let sleeping dogs lie not become toothless shadows of the past.
This video is abysmal.
voice is the only thing that soujds right. it all looks and sounds a bit heavy metal to me.... i mdunno any squaters or anarchists that canb afford a stage set up like that....
how can you say its steve playing with conflict. its not conflict. steve shouldve gott better band that didnt prat around like rock stars. looking back it was a great weekend but, its over. good look to sadie for getting up it takes guts. she did her best. the band though were wankers.
The young lads who watch this will learn nothing about CRASS. What they will learn is that everything they believe in is fake. They are enough good contemporary punk bands like for example The Briefs. This is a sellout. Steve shouldn't make people believe this was CRASS. This is a lot of what CRASS stood against. It's not snobbish anarchism to say that. It's an imitation of CRASS (I love that one!). Steve has no balls to present CRASS as another hip underground consumer product. Fuck all this!!!
not bad but its not crass why do people insist on calling some tribute with 1 member of a former collective Crass- it ain't Crass
@JonnySpeeding We're all wankers.....you stick to ur books and beliefs, I'll stick to Punk Rock music.
carol hodge does such a much better job. i mean besides eve libertine.
sell out gig/ this was never what crass were about steve obviously thought fuck it about time i made some money out of this fame/ fare play to him in some respects
@JonnySpeeding There is nothing wrong with fucking football, jeez some of u feminists/hippies give left wingers a bad name.....grow the fuck up
YuDongWang, you've missed the whole fucking point, this isn't crass it's one sell out flouting the name of crass. If steve wants to do this do it under his name not crass. Simple.
Hmm. The original; minimalist tension with a train tape and drums behind, drone guitar in one ear, scratchy guitar and bleeps in the other. Ranting, singalong vocals. Rising and falling tempo. This; dull pogo-pop-punk assault on the senses. Some shaven-head-long-shorts rhythm guitarist who acts like a posey refugee from some 'merican nu-metal joke..or an oi! band. Sad.
Worst version of this song ever. You can't ever replace Eve. It's HER song.
I don't like her singing at all. Honestly. I know, I've critisized this whole sellout show, but I can still differ between its single components. Sadie nines performance doesn't fit in at all. She sounds like a poor version of one of those girls who sing Star Sprangled Banner before US sports events. What makes me most angry is that some kids might think this is actually CRASS. All the depht is gone. This is just a logo with some marionettes.