This is one of the most crazy RPG i've ever played. After hundreds of hour playing, your main character settled at the beginning of story finally shows up. I almost forgot that I had a main character. LOL
Whole game's events are just a retelling of the Empire's exploits. That's the beauty of it all, the prologue is just the beginning of the epilogue at the same time. Not many RPGs do something like that which is quite refreshing for such a twist, however if you paid attention as soon as you started the game, you would have seen the Emperor/Empress in the bar, listening in to the story being woven.
This boss is insane, you either grind magic until you get spells like Shadow Servant, Hasten Time or Dragon Pulse, that absolutely break the game or you just don't beat him at all. I tell you, I have a lot of respect for someone who can beat this boss using only "normal" spells, the last 2 phases are just overwhelming.
Yeah it is. My last playthrough I figured I’d get a bunch of good techs and half ass the magic builds. Can’t finish it. I saved at the end and can’t leave. Lol.
They actually did do a show stage version it was uploaded on RUclips until was taken down but however it was posted on another website and it is completely the same but some differences though and I enjoyed it
It looks a LOT like the 3 goddesses final boss battle at the end of Final Fantasy 3/6. I like how they kept the graphics 90% the same for this version, but just made them crisper with more detailed animation.
The timing is off when the heroes let out their death scream when the emperor is walking away. I notice weird things like that.....Love love love this game though!
Also funny both games' final bosses are also amalgamations of other existing threats. That's also knowing both games also have secret bosses that have separate matters on their own. Quite amazing.
Wagnas was warped due to Absorption Magic; that type of magic allows one to absorb whatever they kill to gain their powers/strength but it changes their own body's properties but also makes them vulnerable to what hurts what they absorbed. Wagnas killed Fae and elementals which were primarily female in appearance to gain magical abilities. Hence why he looked female and had butterfly wings in his first form. Each of the Seven had a specialized type they absorbed which warped their appearance * Rocbouquet: Human Women * Noel: Experts in their field (Though he is listed with Dragon Attribute in RS2) * Bokhohn: Plant monsters * Subier: Aquatic monsters * Kzinssie: Demons * Wagnas: Magical/Flying monsters * Dantarg: Beasts
@@diaochan7506 Right, it is best to explain from the start, the Seven Heroes were seven individuals chosen from the ancient peoples of the world. Wagnas was their leader, the ancient peoples had a unique art which allowed for the soul to be transferred from one body to the next, prolonging their own lives and warping the flesh of those whom they inhabited into bodies mirroring their own. Wagnas changed the properties of that magic into what is known as Absorption Magic which allowed them to absorb the power of whom they defeated. They did so to become strong to face the monsters plaguing the world. However after the war, the Ancient peoples feared that the Seven would turn on them, so the same people banished the Seven into the Abyss. Many however still feared death and left the world via a type of dimensional transfer means. Some of the Ancient peoples like Orieve chose to remain in the world to watch over it. The Seven sought revenge against those whom betrayed them, but they came back to a world where much time has passed and those who banished them have vanished due to their own fears of death. What you fight in the final battle is their form they obtained after they were banished. The Seven you face throughout the game are proxies of themselves sent beyond where they were sealed to explore the world and gain information on where the Ancients that sent them to the Abyss fled to. As long as the main body remains, they could reconstitute and send their proxies out again. A type of pact known as a "Blood Oath" which means one must remain to guard the main body while the others reconstitute. That is why you face the remaining of the seven as the penultimate boss and must defeat 6 of them before entering the final dungeon. According to Subier that oath was a last resort which Wagnas himself forbade. The very inheritance magic that the ancient people used albeit weaker than the original was taught to Leon by Orieve after Victor died to Kzinssie's Soul Steal. It transmitted the knowledge, abilities, and power of Leon to Gerard to learn how to evade Soul Steal. However by the time of the Final Emperor's emergence and Kzinssie's resurrection, the magic reached it's limitations which is why when you lose in the final scenario, it is game over. All of this is further explained in Torrence by Orieve and the remaining ancients if you went there before the final generation.
I’m am currently playing the game, and I am near the end of it. I’ve killed 3 heroes so far. I was wondering on how to get spells like reviver, galaxy, and crimson flare? Can’t seem to figure out how.
radical streamers yes i have it unlocked. I was close to getting fire spells, done then the character i had with the highest fire spell died. So now i have to do it all over again
RetroFoxy I remember that to get reviver and Galaxy, you need to grind fire and light spells respectively. I think Crimson Flare is a combination of both of those spells as well.
The order is: Middle: Rocbouquet Top: Noel Top Right: Dantarg Top Left: Kzinssie Middle Left: Subier Bottom right: Bokhohn Bottom left: Wagnas Hope that helped 😊
@@RetroFoxy I've played the game and I'm looking over some image search results now but I can't find any way of identifying Subier or Bokhohn in this picture. Subier doesn't seem to look like anybody here, and Bokhohn wears a weird costume or something... it's difficult to be certain of the artist's intention!
Kzinssie is the more obvious one in this list -- the red demon that pops in last is him iirc. Subier is most likely the second-last to pop up, bottom-most. I always assume those weird holes on him are his former tentacles reduced to holes riddled in his body. Now Bohkohn? I absolutely have no idea why he's the blue demon that emerges second. Hope the upcoming remake clarifies it with high fidelity, but fingers crossed...
The Seven Heroes were members of the ancient race of people in the world. After they saved the world from a threat, the people still fearing death from natural disasters amongst other threats sought to escape it despite knowing the ability to prolong life which is known as the ability of assimilation (Using existing organisms to create bodies to transfer the soul unto), so the ancient people created a dimensional device to escape the world, however the Seven trying to stop them were flung into the underworld. What you see is the true body of the seven morphed and distorted. The ones you encounter throughout the game are akin to avatars they control, (they can reconstitute as long as the main body is intact) so they can achieve their plans of revenge on those who betrayed them and their sacrifices to keep their once respected kin safe. There is a Blood Oath where one must remain guarding the main body for the rest to rejuvenate their own avatars should they be slain. Hence why you fight one of the remaining members of the Seven before fighting the main body. This method itself of the seven fighting in their merged form was considered even forbidden by they leader Wagnas.
I always read about this game's story and the seven heroes but websites/articles never explained why the heroes turned "evil" thanks for the info. But why did the seven heroes try to stop their fellow people from using the dimensional device from leaving the world? why not let them go?
Because it would have made their sacrifices meaningless, not to mention that the device could be abused and manipulated to create an even greater threat.
I think the explanation was this: after the seven heroes brought peace to the world, they continued to keep fighting monsters, absorbing their power and becoming so powerful, that the people became afraid of them. They then trapped the heroes in the Abyss, and inside, the heroes continued to become stronger until they turned into monsters and escaped.
Interresting... I heard a different version, where they saved the world from great evil, but where tossed into a demonic dimension, because scientists did do experiments with space magic from what I recall.
gabriel1234 the last emperor/empress quit because he/she not only has the skills of previous emperors, but also their memories, they had to fight against the seven heroes, watch their partners die in battle, all that in what it feels like centuries, repeating the same painful and tiring process, like she says to that kid in somon, being an ruler is a tough life, and she didn't recommended that life to that kid.
@@diaochan7506 Well there is a stage version of this telling their backstories before they became evil it was on RUclips but until it got tooken down but you can find it on Google
Kzinssie (porygonlover322) Nice Still, Aabeta is pretty outdated. I'd suggest translating Bokuno instead. They use the same base hack, but they sorta branched into two different things. Aabeta is way too unbalanced, and doesn't get updates anymore.
I know, but the "doesn't get updates" part is why I went for it - I want to be able to take as long as I need to cover everything the hack has to offer without worrying about new content coming in.
This version looks so good, but that Flashy Animation with rotating pixels looks like shit, should've gone for some extra frames of redrawn animation for the final boss at least, or move it like Neo Exdeath in FFV.
Leon was the first emperor when the Seven were mentioned to him by the witch Oaibu and when Kujinshi killed off his eldest son Victor, It was Gerard, his youngest son who took up the sword in his place and finished off Kujinshi.
@@Ryan91487 Plus if you don't kill of Gerrard and retake the Victor Canal with him it's added as territory and thus technically making him the first emperor
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Can't wait to see how the remake does this.
Agreed 👌
This is one of the most crazy RPG i've ever played.
After hundreds of hour playing, your main character settled at the beginning of story finally shows up.
I almost forgot that I had a main character. LOL
Whole game's events are just a retelling of the Empire's exploits. That's the beauty of it all, the prologue is just the beginning of the epilogue at the same time. Not many RPGs do something like that which is quite refreshing for such a twist, however if you paid attention as soon as you started the game, you would have seen the Emperor/Empress in the bar, listening in to the story being woven.
This is so epic. It is much better than romancing saga 3’s ending. Actually, except the graphics, RS2 was much better than RS3 in my opinion.
Great to see Romancing SaGa 2 in English!
SQUARE-ENIX, I DEMAND ROMANCING SAGA 3 NEXT.
They've announced they will release it. Kinda confusing how they aren't releasing these games on Vita in the west, only JP. :s
Minstrel song anybody? Seriously that game was my childhood. It’s still fucking amazing and is one of my fav JRPGs of all time.
Guess what 3 was announced for remaster
The Remake of Romancing Saga 3 is out already in Playstore (Android) and you can buy it for PHP 1,350(Limited time offer only)
Now my turn. I'm not demanding but begging Saga Frontier 1 with complete works
This boss is insane, you either grind magic until you get spells like Shadow Servant, Hasten Time or Dragon Pulse, that absolutely break the game or you just don't beat him at all. I tell you, I have a lot of respect for someone who can beat this boss using only "normal" spells, the last 2 phases are just overwhelming.
Yeah it is. My last playthrough I figured I’d get a bunch of good techs and half ass the magic builds. Can’t finish it. I saved at the end and can’t leave. Lol.
it's so damn cool if your heroes just walk away like that after the final boss is dead
so the final boss is an agressive cluster of spaghetti and meatballs with people coming out of it
neat
this comment is cursed
@@pablosimon7135 yep
this was in reality a sphere made of blood,organs and veins because of the forbidden magic they uses the called pact of blood
@@franciscodavi1323 wait really?
This seems like a very interesting boss. It's like the farther you go in, the more attacks you have to deal with, and the more turns they get.
Good. Now remake Live-A-Live.
Master Egil NO!! ( sorry. Just don't like that sad game.)
they do it, and I buy it
@@adienthebee ???
It's happening
They actually did do a show stage version it was uploaded on RUclips until was taken down but however it was posted on another website and it is completely the same but some differences though and I enjoyed it
10:53 - Aight imma head out
日本語の技名が英語になってるのみるの楽しい🙆♀️
金剛力→Gilden strength
ギャラクシー→Galaxy Rift
セルフバーニング→Self-immolation
千手観音→Guanyn
高速ナブラ→Reverse Delta
線切り→Slice
一番使った無明剣と不動剣もみたかったなぁ🙄
I love how this game is a thing in US now.
And they didn't mess up the graphics, as they did with FF6.
Can I tell you after all these years?
The Pixel Remaster of FF6 arguably looks worse. That's pretty funny.
The music is just way too good!!
It looks a LOT like the 3 goddesses final boss battle at the end of Final Fantasy 3/6.
I like how they kept the graphics 90% the same for this version, but just made them crisper with more detailed animation.
The timing is off when the heroes let out their death scream when the emperor is walking away.
I notice weird things like that.....Love love love this game though!
9999 damage, holy damn!
Saga series... one of many awesome RPGs serial
I don't know why the version of The 7 Koopalings scares me more than the 7 Heroes.
16:04 the ending's so good, you can kill a GUARDIAN with Hasten Time for some unknown reason.
TIME FOR A STEAM RELEASE!
I agree!
Guess what's coming!
Friday 15th December, 2017 is when this game launches/launched on Steam.
The final boss theme sounds a lot like FFV's musical score. I'm guessing since they sort of came out around the same time it makes sense
same company and all that you know.
Also funny both games' final bosses are also amalgamations of other existing threats.
That's also knowing both games also have secret bosses that have separate matters on their own.
Quite amazing.
Shadow Servant completely deletes any challenges in this game
Is it wrong I always think Wagnas looks more like a girl than Rocbouquet?
no
Wagnas was warped due to Absorption Magic; that type of magic allows one to absorb whatever they kill to gain their powers/strength but it changes their own body's properties but also makes them vulnerable to what hurts what they absorbed. Wagnas killed Fae and elementals which were primarily female in appearance to gain magical abilities. Hence why he looked female and had butterfly wings in his first form.
Each of the Seven had a specialized type they absorbed which warped their appearance
* Rocbouquet: Human Women
* Noel: Experts in their field (Though he is listed with Dragon Attribute in RS2)
* Bokhohn: Plant monsters
* Subier: Aquatic monsters
* Kzinssie: Demons
* Wagnas: Magical/Flying monsters
* Dantarg: Beasts
@@Ryan91487 makes sense
@@Ryan91487 This is so confusing, ehy 7 heroes become antagonist/villain? Is there someone behind it?
@@diaochan7506
Right, it is best to explain from the start, the Seven Heroes were seven individuals chosen from the ancient peoples of the world. Wagnas was their leader, the ancient peoples had a unique art which allowed for the soul to be transferred from one body to the next, prolonging their own lives and warping the flesh of those whom they inhabited into bodies mirroring their own. Wagnas changed the properties of that magic into what is known as Absorption Magic which allowed them to absorb the power of whom they defeated. They did so to become strong to face the monsters plaguing the world. However after the war, the Ancient peoples feared that the Seven would turn on them, so the same people banished the Seven into the Abyss. Many however still feared death and left the world via a type of dimensional transfer means. Some of the Ancient peoples like Orieve chose to remain in the world to watch over it. The Seven sought revenge against those whom betrayed them, but they came back to a world where much time has passed and those who banished them have vanished due to their own fears of death.
What you fight in the final battle is their form they obtained after they were banished. The Seven you face throughout the game are proxies of themselves sent beyond where they were sealed to explore the world and gain information on where the Ancients that sent them to the Abyss fled to. As long as the main body remains, they could reconstitute and send their proxies out again. A type of pact known as a "Blood Oath" which means one must remain to guard the main body while the others reconstitute. That is why you face the remaining of the seven as the penultimate boss and must defeat 6 of them before entering the final dungeon. According to Subier that oath was a last resort which Wagnas himself forbade.
The very inheritance magic that the ancient people used albeit weaker than the original was taught to Leon by Orieve after Victor died to Kzinssie's Soul Steal. It transmitted the knowledge, abilities, and power of Leon to Gerard to learn how to evade Soul Steal. However by the time of the Final Emperor's emergence and Kzinssie's resurrection, the magic reached it's limitations which is why when you lose in the final scenario, it is game over. All of this is further explained in Torrence by Orieve and the remaining ancients if you went there before the final generation.
透明状態のキャラを対象に出来たぞ？
日本版だと出来ないが…
So much lost dps time with those defends T_T
皇帝も七英雄も総力戦の感じが燃える。
I’m am currently playing the game, and I am near the end of it. I’ve killed 3 heroes so far. I was wondering on how to get spells like reviver, galaxy, and crimson flare? Can’t seem to figure out how.
do you have the magic research centre unlocked? you get better spells as your global levels in each magic school go up
radical streamers yes i have it unlocked. I was close to getting fire spells, done then the character i had with the highest fire spell died. So now i have to do it all over again
RetroFoxy I remember that to get reviver and Galaxy, you need to grind fire and light spells respectively. I think Crimson Flare is a combination of both of those spells as well.
the bossess are animated than the snes version
I have never played a turn based RPG and have no fucking clue what he is doing at the beginning
It look like Rocbouquet is the most number 1 antagonist.
Are you prepared?
--->As much as I can be.
ugh, no kidding.
The sprite confuses me. I can’t tell which ones are Subier, Kzinssie, and Bokhohn.
The order is:
Middle: Rocbouquet
Top: Noel
Top Right: Dantarg
Top Left: Kzinssie
Middle Left: Subier
Bottom right: Bokhohn
Bottom left: Wagnas
Hope that helped 😊
@@RetroFoxy I've played the game and I'm looking over some image search results now but I can't find any way of identifying Subier or Bokhohn in this picture. Subier doesn't seem to look like anybody here, and Bokhohn wears a weird costume or something... it's difficult to be certain of the artist's intention!
Kzinssie is the more obvious one in this list -- the red demon that pops in last is him iirc.
Subier is most likely the second-last to pop up, bottom-most. I always assume those weird holes on him are his former tentacles reduced to holes riddled in his body.
Now Bohkohn? I absolutely have no idea why he's the blue demon that emerges second.
Hope the upcoming remake clarifies it with high fidelity, but fingers crossed...
I dont know how to feel about motion tweens im my favorite clasic games . At least this one is sorta competent.
Who are the seven heros?
ThestreetsofWA They're that one giant red thing... God knows how I know that.
a couple of rejected ex-heroes cunts who decided to go full villain on everybody else for many many years
The Seven Heroes were members of the ancient race of people in the world. After they saved the world from a threat, the people still fearing death from natural disasters amongst other threats sought to escape it despite knowing the ability to prolong life which is known as the ability of assimilation (Using existing organisms to create bodies to transfer the soul unto), so the ancient people created a dimensional device to escape the world, however the Seven trying to stop them were flung into the underworld. What you see is the true body of the seven morphed and distorted. The ones you encounter throughout the game are akin to avatars they control, (they can reconstitute as long as the main body is intact) so they can achieve their plans of revenge on those who betrayed them and their sacrifices to keep their once respected kin safe.
There is a Blood Oath where one must remain guarding the main body for the rest to rejuvenate their own avatars should they be slain. Hence why you fight one of the remaining members of the Seven before fighting the main body. This method itself of the seven fighting in their merged form was considered even forbidden by they leader Wagnas.
I always read about this game's story and the seven heroes but websites/articles never explained why the heroes turned "evil" thanks for the info. But why did the seven heroes try to stop their fellow people from using the dimensional device from leaving the world? why not let them go?
Because it would have made their sacrifices meaningless, not to mention that the device could be abused and manipulated to create an even greater threat.
Final battle?
You mean H A S T E N T I M E?
0:32 She be dabbin'
I never seen this kind of graphics and stuff before
I think this is the iOS version
Ronin Tails Yea it is I love that better than the other one
WHERE CAN I GET THIS
Ichirin Kumoi Playstore
Does the game explain why the seven heroes became evil?
From what I remember, they went into a void of some sort to fight off an evil force, but being in the void corrupted them.
As suspected! They have been corrupted by the forces of Chaos within the Warp! (See Warhammer 40k)
I think the explanation was this: after the seven heroes brought peace to the world, they continued to keep fighting monsters, absorbing their power and becoming so powerful, that the people became afraid of them. They then trapped the heroes in the Abyss, and inside, the heroes continued to become stronger until they turned into monsters and escaped.
Interresting... I heard a different version, where they saved the world from great evil, but where tossed into a demonic dimension, because scientists did do experiments with space magic from what I recall.
why did the elders close the gate AFTER the heroes entered? why not just close it from the start before anyone entered the gate?
I love this game. But wait, why she isn't the Empress anymore?
gabriel1234 the last emperor/empress quit because he/she not only has the skills of previous emperors, but also their memories, they had to fight against the seven heroes, watch their partners die in battle, all that in what it feels like centuries, repeating the same painful and tiring process, like she says to that kid in somon, being an ruler is a tough life, and she didn't recommended that life to that kid.
@@Focalors21 Yes... Eternal life isn't so good as many can say... You can lost loved and cared ones in the way...
@@thesagegamer Why the 7 heroes become bad people or there is something make them like that.
@@diaochan7506 Well there is a stage version of this telling their backstories before they became evil it was on RUclips but until it got tooken down but you can find it on Google
Parece o boss do mario
You mean the Seven Koopalings?
Just so I know: Do I need this much HP to win?
nah not at all, i think the guys who speedrun this end up with 400ish
It finally coming to PS4
Salamanders are dead,not big soup rice.
For what console is the game? I want to play all the romancing sagas
Android/iOS/Switch/PS4/PC(Steam)
That's a lot of makeup for an night out
Is it as good as Romancif Saga 3?
different! i think it's better personally, they're both great though
Personally I like Romancing SaGa 2 better but both are amazing games that I would recommend to anyone who likes retro rpgs.
Gongjin? Is that Zhou Yu?
I haven't gotten to Dantarg yet in my run and I'm working on a Romancing SaGa 3 hack translation - what's ぶちかまし translated as officially?
Which hack?
Bokuno or Aabeta?
aabeta. Check my channel - I've been slacking on it, but that's where it is.
Kzinssie (porygonlover322) Nice
Still, Aabeta is pretty outdated. I'd suggest translating Bokuno instead. They use the same base hack, but they sorta branched into two different things. Aabeta is way too unbalanced, and doesn't get updates anymore.
I know, but the "doesn't get updates" part is why I went for it - I want to be able to take as long as I need to cover everything the hack has to offer without worrying about new content coming in.
This version looks so good, but that Flashy Animation with rotating pixels looks like shit, should've gone for some extra frames of redrawn animation for the final boss at least, or move it like Neo Exdeath in FFV.
In this version
im the 100 liker
congratulations to me
But who was the first emperor? Curious
Leon was the first emperor when the Seven were mentioned to him by the witch Oaibu and when Kujinshi killed off his eldest son Victor, It was Gerard, his youngest son who took up the sword in his place and finished off Kujinshi.
@@Ryan91487 Plus if you don't kill of Gerrard and retake the Victor Canal with him it's added as territory and thus technically making him the first emperor
There are more early Emperor than Leon.. so Leon is not the first Emperor of Varennes.
Whats the meaning of the mask?
what is that monster
The fallen Seven Heroes. They went rouge and created a monster of themselves.
It’s an Italian.
@@thomasmacdonough288 I undesrtood that reference, ha, ha!