HMS Terror & Erebus: Sir Michael Palin on Polar Exploration and Disasters

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  • Опубликовано: 18 окт 2024

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  • @nflbtc
    @nflbtc 2 года назад +54

    Michael Palin is a National treasure and the inspiration for a few generations to travel and explore our planet . Not bad with jokes either 😎👍

    • @GamesWithBrainz
      @GamesWithBrainz Год назад +2

      INTERnational treasure! lol

    • @nflbtc
      @nflbtc Год назад

      @@GamesWithBrainz Absolutely true. 👍

  • @chrisholmes2525
    @chrisholmes2525 2 года назад +24

    What a treat, thank you so much for this video. To anyone who hasn't yet read Erebus: The Story of a Ship by Michael Palin, I highly recommend it.

    • @bflex89
      @bflex89 2 года назад +1

      One of the best books I have ever read

    • @lizardywizard
      @lizardywizard 2 года назад +2

      Agreed, he reads the audiobook with great warmth. 🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦

  • @IanDocherty335
    @IanDocherty335 2 года назад +38

    I’ve just finished reading his book ‘Erebus The Story Of A Ship’……..a great read and well worthwhile. 👍

    • @tigermunky
      @tigermunky 2 года назад +2

      I agree. I bought it last year and ploughed through it in a few days. A really good book.

    • @robm9999
      @robm9999 2 года назад +1

      Got it for Christmas and am currently enjoying it very much! Palin is a great storyteller so it’s no surprise his books are so engaging.

    • @StratfordWingRider
      @StratfordWingRider 2 года назад +3

      Came here to say this. Excellent book. I became a little fixated on the subject after watching “The Terror”

    • @eliotreader8220
      @eliotreader8220 2 года назад +2

      I heard the story about one of the locals went on board one of the ships while the crew was living there and the local person met some of them who's faces was black from the coal dust. its believed that they might have been working on the steam engine at the time they heard him walking about on the top deck

    • @andrewadshead4411
      @andrewadshead4411 2 года назад

      ¾³³

  • @markmelvin299
    @markmelvin299 2 года назад +21

    Lovely interview. I do wish Python had done that sketch he talked about though. Would have been brilliant.

    • @aaronleverton4221
      @aaronleverton4221 2 года назад +2

      It feels like a companion piece to their Last Supper sketch with the Pope complaining to Michelangelo about his composition.

  • @johnmurray8428
    @johnmurray8428 2 года назад +4

    We spent our later years’ backpacking around the world. I am sure we were Michael Palin inspired, thank you, you showed us the way to go and how to go.

  • @curiousworld7912
    @curiousworld7912 2 года назад +32

    I liked what Mr. Palin said about travel, and that it's not about 'background' or 'comfort'. Back in the '70s, I did a bit of travel, and the thing I enjoyed most was being immersed in a completely different culture - the food, the music, the dress - all of it. I fear that to many, travel has become almost mundane; all the comforts of home, with only a difference of location.

    • @whyjnot420
      @whyjnot420 2 года назад +4

      Just to be annoying: Unless you are literally going to another world, travel by definition has to be mundane, that is, of the earth.
      (I dislike using the term mundane to mean boring, the world is anything but boring)

    • @curiousworld7912
      @curiousworld7912 2 года назад +3

      @@whyjnot420 I don't find it annoying, at all. I'm a bit of a 'word nerd', myself. However, I did check Merriam Webster beforehand - just to make certain I wasn't using the word incorrectly. The initial definition reads: 'of, relating to, characteristic of the world', while the second read: 'characterized by the practical, transitory, and ordinary/commonplace'. I also saw it used as a synonym for 'prosaic', and 'workaday', with words relating as 'commonplace', and 'expected'. And, I agree; the world is anything but boring. Sadly, some view travel as little more than a selfie opportunity, with the assumption and expectation that food and accommodations will be 'just like home'.

    • @whyjnot420
      @whyjnot420 2 года назад +2

      @@curiousworld7912 Yeah, like I said, I dislike using the term to mean boring. Not that using it to mean boring is incorrect.
      I have to admit that due to the common understanding that mundane = boring or everyday stuff even I will use it that way on occasion, if it fits the flow of the words I am using at the time.
      And even I have to admit that unless you are talking about Finnish, where they literally have a govt organization that officially allows new words into the language. Any living language will change. The only reason it changes is because the people using it, collectively decide that something is different.
      Take the word "amateur" it comes to English straight from French. But its root is actually the Latin word _amare_ which means "to love". An amateur is some who does something because they enjoy it, or love it. But it has come to mean people with low skill levels. Afterall, you do not need to be skilled to take part in something you enjoy even if it would be desirable to be skilled. Though I do enjoy pointing out the root of the word to people when they talk about the quality of the best fan made things (animations, stories, video game mods, etc.) compared to the professionally made stuff that is official, which in so many cases, is mediocre, or even junk.

    • @curiousworld7912
      @curiousworld7912 2 года назад +1

      @@whyjnot420 Yes, language does change with both time and usage. And, etymology is, I think, fascinating. But, a current grammar 'issue' that feels like fingernails on a chalkboard to me, is making verbs out of nouns; such as 'gifting'.

    • @aaronleverton4221
      @aaronleverton4221 2 года назад +1

      @@curiousworld7912 "access" as a verb.

  • @Vercingetorix.Fantasia
    @Vercingetorix.Fantasia 2 года назад +6

    Cant get enough of the franklin expedition and all of the heroic age of arctic explanation.

  • @amraverageproduction5379
    @amraverageproduction5379 2 года назад +19

    Great interview with good questions, actually listening to what Michael said and answering, like a normal conversation.

  • @TheStobb50
    @TheStobb50 2 года назад +3

    Where would the world be without Michael Palin🙉🙊🙈🤪

  • @luzspitifire
    @luzspitifire 2 года назад +3

    Palin is amazing and the book Erebus is a must-read!

  • @rasulpourjafar
    @rasulpourjafar 2 года назад +8

    This channel is very educating

  • @HistorySkills
    @HistorySkills 2 года назад +6

    Michael Palin is a legend!

  • @basaltplainscreationsaustr1194
    @basaltplainscreationsaustr1194 2 года назад +1

    Sir Michael should be an inspiration to all, lovely interview.

  • @Lawman212
    @Lawman212 2 года назад +2

    Ah wonderful. An interview between my two favorite story tellers. So great. Thanks so much. I'll need to seek out Mr. Palin's book.

    • @redheathen9580
      @redheathen9580 2 года назад +2

      Just finished it, found it fascinating

    • @Lawman212
      @Lawman212 2 года назад +1

      @@redheathen9580 Ok, just picked it up.

  • @davidgross316
    @davidgross316 2 года назад +10

    Such a wonderful man

  • @hansvonmannschaft9062
    @hansvonmannschaft9062 2 года назад +9

    _- Erebus?_
    _- Yes._
    _- Good. Out of the door, wreck on the left, one bunk each. Next!..._

  • @peterdavis2233
    @peterdavis2233 2 года назад +15

    "Travel is about discomfort." Exactly. Nothing more disappointing than going to some faraway locale only to find the same fast food franchises and chain stores you have back home in Nebraska. Yet, there are too many who find that the only reason to travel--the fact that they can eat a Big Mac in Jakarta.

    • @jimwright4163
      @jimwright4163 2 года назад +4

      Remember I went up a mountain in Canada and there was a Starbucks at the top. I was disappointed to say the least.

    • @peterdavis2233
      @peterdavis2233 2 года назад +2

      @Jo Sm I took a group of college students to Paris a number of years ago. For the first week, I took them to several excellent local restaurants to introduce them to French cooking. But they were thrilled and greatly relieved when they found a nearby McDonald's. I was crushed.

    • @jimwright4163
      @jimwright4163 2 года назад +1

      @Jo Sm It was just the last thing I expected.

    • @davidberrueco2
      @davidberrueco2 2 года назад +2

      So true, it allways baffled me that some people like to travel to find themselves at a similar spot to where they came from. I used to be a turist guide for irish groups and sometimes i would have guys asking me where the irish pub was, and shure enough there would be one, and shure enough they would spend most of their vacations there.

    • @Furniture121
      @Furniture121 2 года назад

      I suppose it depends on how long you've been travelling. If it's a week or two, I agree that looking for similar to home food/places is a bit disappointing. On the other hand, when you've been away from home for weeks or months, a taste of home can be quite nice. I remember going to a Tim Horton's in Muscat for a double double, and a doughnut after being away from home for months, and that cheap coffee was one of the best things I'd tasted in ages.

  • @DoomGoober
    @DoomGoober 2 года назад +20

    HMS Terror was a bombardment vessel before it became an explorer. HMS Terror bombarded Fort Mc Henry during the War of 1812. That bombardment was immortalized in the "Star Spangled Banner." When Americans sing their national anthem "rocket's red glare, bombs bursting in air" they are singing about HMS Terror.

    • @Hibernicus1968
      @Hibernicus1968 2 года назад +10

      @@bastogne315 You do realize that this was the War of 1812 right, not the American Revolution. Britain had recognized the independence of the United States in 1783. The people inside Fort McHenry during the bombardment were American citizens, not British ones.

    • @doug6500
      @doug6500 2 года назад +5

      And the tune for it is in turn derived from a British soldier's drinking song. Not very original that lot.

    • @Hibernicus1968
      @Hibernicus1968 2 года назад +1

      @@doug6500 That's actually rather unfair; Francis Scott Key never intended it as a song, he wrote it as a poem. It was later set to the tune of "To Anacreon in Heaven" by Key's brother-in-law Joseph H. Nicholson, when Nicholson noticed that the words fit that song's melody.

    • @doug6500
      @doug6500 2 года назад

      @@Hibernicus1968 And it's shite. About as drab and dull as GSTQ.

    • @oddballsok
      @oddballsok 2 года назад

      @@Hibernicus1968 yes? so, bombarding american CITIZENS by BRITISH bombs is quite allright ???!?!?!?

  • @TheLk35mm
    @TheLk35mm 2 года назад +3

    ♥️♥️♥️ Mr. Palin.
    "Dennis there is some lovely filth over here!"

  • @mrs.g.9816
    @mrs.g.9816 2 года назад +2

    I read the book, "Frozen in Time" about the three crewmen buried at Beechie Island. The exhumations and research of the remains (before they were properly and respectfully reburied) told me a lot about what 1840's people looked like and early expeditions. I think the Franklin Expedition wouldn't have been disastrous if 1. they had properly tinned food. (The lead in the poor soldering poisoned them and affected their mental states), 2. they had better arctic clothing and 3. they had some training in subsistence hunting in the arctic. The Inuit who ran into the Erebus/Terror crewmen could only help them so much, as they, too lived on a knife-edge of survival.
    As for travel, I agree with Mr. Palin. You travel to experience something different,. So you have to be in good health and be prepared for the unpredictable and not mind discomforts and a little danger. If you need the comforts of home, get a book about the country you've always wanted to visit, preferably with lots of photographs, to read in your easy chair.

  • @onetwothreefourfive12345
    @onetwothreefourfive12345 2 года назад +7

    I absolutely adore this topic. Really like "The Terror" by AMC as well. Best acting I've ever seen. (Just skip all the scenes with the stupid zombie bear thing and its very plausible and immersive)

    • @jplonsdale7242
      @jplonsdale7242 2 года назад +2

      I know it's based on the book but honestly if the zombie bear ruined it. If you haven't seen it check out the North Water or Black Water not sure of the name exactly but its a series very similar to The Terror but minus the stupid bear. It's got Colin Farrel in it and it's about another ship getting stuck on the ice and they encounter Eskimos. It's more realistic than the terror it's also based off a book it's set in the same-ish time period. It's no spoiler to say Colin Farrel plays a huge bulked up and very intimidating serial killer and they're all stranded with him. He's like Tom Hardy in the revenant and barely recognisable.

    • @onetwothreefourfive12345
      @onetwothreefourfive12345 2 года назад +1

      @@jplonsdale7242 that sounds awesome thanks!! ill definitely be checking that out. I also really like master and commander but its kinda a different category lol

    • @131alexa
      @131alexa 2 года назад

      The Terror is terrific: good script, wonderful recreation of the ships (the set built is now in the Cinemaqua theme park in Hungary) and incredible acting from A-list cast.

    • @TheRealDarrylStrawberry
      @TheRealDarrylStrawberry 2 года назад

      I almost didnt watch it because of the zombie bear thing, but luckily i feel required to watch anything with Tobias Menzies and Ciaran Hinds. (Rome reunion!)

  • @rinrat6754
    @rinrat6754 2 года назад

    Marvellous interview. Your questions were insightful but also so well tailored to trigger a fascinating response.

  • @davidrenton
    @davidrenton Год назад

    we now need that Life of Brian scene with them trying to get a restaurant reservation for the last supper

  • @mikewalrus4763
    @mikewalrus4763 2 года назад +1

    Ah Costa Rica - well worth the visit - I wish I'd stayed!

  • @ericcriteser4001
    @ericcriteser4001 2 года назад +4

    I'm ready and set to watch. Very exciting.

  • @bookaufman9643
    @bookaufman9643 2 года назад +1

    It's great to see Michael Palin but it's also such a bummer to see how old he's become. I'm not dealing with getting older very well and because I've kind of lost track of Michael Palin over the last 10 or 15 years I was kind of shocked when I saw how old he is. I've watched all of his travel specials and of course I've seen all of the Monty Python stuff and I'm a huge fan but he just reinforced the fact that I am closer to the end than to the beginning. It's so strange to see somebody that you might not have seen for a few years and suddenly they're an old man. It would have been a lot easier if I'd seen each step on his journey to this destination. Oh well, it is what it is.

    • @oddballsok
      @oddballsok 2 года назад

      every seven years , your body changes to the next stage...

  • @jorgemartinpaez4376
    @jorgemartinpaez4376 2 года назад

    The Franklin expedition of Base station wild Arctic sea world adventure! Awesome! The Truth of the expedition as read in buried in ice... cool...

  • @CamMacMastermusic
    @CamMacMastermusic 2 года назад

    2 more points to research on Franklin…
    Stan Rogers’ song called “ Northwest Passage “ and the crew of eastern Canadians who found the HMS Terror aboard the SS M.B.

  • @whyjnot420
    @whyjnot420 2 года назад +3

    In terms of what event I would like to be a fly on the wall for, I would say the January 1, 1925 meeting of the American Astronomical Society. As Marcia Bartusiak puts it, that is the day we found the universe. As that was when Edwin Hubble presented his conclusive evidence, that spiral nebulae we in fact, other galaxies.
    caveat: It had been published in the NY Times as an article a little before then, and was not published in a peer reviewed journal until 4 years later. But that was the day the evidence was presented to professional astronomers as a group, and done in such a conclusive manner that there was no mistake. It truly was the day humanity officially discovered the universe itself. It really is one of the most mind blowing discoveries anyone has ever made. Perhaps literally the largest discovery that could be made (barring proof of a multiverse I guess).

  • @CharlesReece-nr2wr
    @CharlesReece-nr2wr Год назад

    As a Canadian soldier I have been to the high arctic a few times. Unless you have experienced that cold, wind and nothingness: you cannot appreciate the depth and no escape from the cold.
    I don't know which was worse, the destructive tempratures of the polar regions or the incesent insects of the jungles? Both living hells...

  • @royfr8136
    @royfr8136 Год назад

    I just watched an interview he did about this subject that was uploaded 8 years ago with a Canadian interviewer.... No watching this, which was uploaded just 1 year ago. I am shocked how much he has aged.

  • @theeutecticpoint
    @theeutecticpoint 2 года назад +4

    3:14- it'd be nice to have subtitles when the person off camera chimes in, it's difficult to hear their comment

    • @rhhmunro
      @rhhmunro 10 месяцев назад

      Sounds like it's Tom Hodgkinson. Editor of The Idler and a good friend of Palin's.

  • @alanpreston3111
    @alanpreston3111 2 года назад +1

    Wonderful… 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻❤️

  • @54mgtf22
    @54mgtf22 2 года назад

    Love your work 👍

  • @ninetyZeven
    @ninetyZeven 2 года назад

    Grappa has been mentioned !

  • @MrUnit731
    @MrUnit731 2 года назад

    Great man.

  • @scottscottsdale7868
    @scottscottsdale7868 2 года назад

    Travel to Madagascar. It is beautiful.

  • @sparkymmilarky
    @sparkymmilarky 2 года назад +2

    What a nice man

  • @Christpoher
    @Christpoher 2 года назад

    He's not a national treasure, he's a very naughty boy!

  • @jsullivan2112
    @jsullivan2112 Год назад

    What a fucking legend.

  • @TerryDowne
    @TerryDowne 2 года назад

    The next series: Michael Palin on the Silk Road.

  • @bob_the_bomb4508
    @bob_the_bomb4508 2 года назад +5

    So…what have the Romans ever done for us?

    • @mikesmith-pj7xz
      @mikesmith-pj7xz 2 года назад +1

      The travel stories…the travel stories go without saying…😎

    • @tomtom21194
      @tomtom21194 2 года назад +3

      Adam Hart-Davis used to do a charming series on that front for kids that I watched when I was one. I loved it

    • @iainbagnall4825
      @iainbagnall4825 2 года назад +1

      @@tomtom21194 Yep. ruclips.net/video/wmax3ntBS0Q/видео.html

    • @noneinparticular2338
      @noneinparticular2338 2 года назад

      The language you r writting in for example, else this good be in deustch ma friend

  • @RayMcClure
    @RayMcClure 2 года назад +2

    Is it not about time someone told the story of Robert McClure and the true discovery of the North West Passage,.

    • @aaronleverton4221
      @aaronleverton4221 2 года назад

      Do you mean Benton Fraser and Stanley Kowalski?

    • @RayMcClure
      @RayMcClure 2 года назад

      @@aaronleverton4221 I was thinking of HMS Investigator and it's Captain Robert McClure and the discovery of the North West Passage, and the first circumnavigation of the America's

    • @aaronleverton4221
      @aaronleverton4221 2 года назад

      @@RayMcClure I know. I was making a slight (as in not important) pop-culture reference to a show which ends with its two protagonists headed into the icy north to find The Hand of Franklyn.

  • @jonathandavies6839
    @jonathandavies6839 2 года назад

    Michael ...Come to Princesa de la Luna Ecolodge in COSTA RICA .... Google !!!!

  • @JCO2002
    @JCO2002 2 года назад +20

    The main reason the Brits were such poor polar explorers is that they always wanted to do it in a "British" way. For instance, Scott and his ponies. Amundsen had no qualms about using dogs, and when they'd served their purpose, eating them and feeding them to the remaining dogs.

    • @bob_the_bomb4508
      @bob_the_bomb4508 2 года назад +2

      Not to forget “Across the Andes by Frog”…

    • @davidlynch9049
      @davidlynch9049 2 года назад +1

      I don't think they knew exactly what they were getting into, so ...

    • @bfhfhfhdj
      @bfhfhfhdj 2 года назад

      Ernest Henry Shackleton was Irish, Not a Brit. Sure we were part of the British Empire but we were never really that encaustic about it.

    • @JCO2002
      @JCO2002 2 года назад

      @@bfhfhfhdj Thanks, I didn't realize that, but he did spend most of his time in, and organised his funding in, England, did he not? Either way, all most of them managed in the polar regions was failure. Look at Franklin - if he hadn't have seen the Inuit as his inferiors, that inbred, upper class twit might have not gotten himself and his entire crew dead.

    • @bob_the_bomb4508
      @bob_the_bomb4508 2 года назад

      @@bfhfhfhdj at the time of his birth you were more than part of the Empire. Since the 1800 Act of Union you were part of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland. So Shackleton was a Brit. In his day.

  • @Jubilo1
    @Jubilo1 2 года назад

    Well he's not Sir Ranulph Fiennes.

  • @catspaw3815
    @catspaw3815 2 года назад +3

    Would Mr. Palin please consider coming to the States and filling a position at CNN.
    They are in desperate need of an actual journalist

    • @bob_the_bomb4508
      @bob_the_bomb4508 2 года назад +1

      Or indeed the BBC…

    • @whyjnot420
      @whyjnot420 2 года назад +1

      Bah... screw that.... have him set up something that will finally put CNN where it belongs, in a grave, right next to all the other cable "news" channels.

    • @davidlynch9049
      @davidlynch9049 2 года назад

      Fox too! But, he would be too smart for them.

    • @catspaw3815
      @catspaw3815 2 года назад +1

      @@whyjnot420agreed...that's a much better idea

    • @aaron6178
      @aaron6178 2 года назад

      Good lord, Sir Palin is just to precious to waste on idiotic mass media and news. Burn it all to the ground.

  • @kenricnarbrough8191
    @kenricnarbrough8191 2 года назад +1

    That's a pretty good interview, but why is it so short and is Snow trying to be funny and ironic or is he an old chum of Palin? Its not clear and look odd.

  • @fordprefect80
    @fordprefect80 2 года назад

    Across the Andes by Frog.

  • @Cl0ckcl0ck
    @Cl0ckcl0ck 2 года назад +1

    I'm with Ray Mears on this one.
    ruclips.net/video/Q4EbbH5mZzU/видео.html

    • @whoarewe7515
      @whoarewe7515 2 года назад +1

      Yes just watched it thank for the recommendation. Do you think there philosophy on travel is the same Michael's is more Shackleton. Where as Rays is more like Rae's.

    • @Cl0ckcl0ck
      @Cl0ckcl0ck 2 года назад +1

      @@whoarewe7515 To be honest I don't think Michael Palin is as knowledgeable on the subject as Ray Mears. He said 'furthest south' so often it made me believe he thought the expedition was to the Antarctic.
      Edit: Ahhh, he was talking about an earlier journey of the Erebus to the Antarctic. His book seems to be more about the ship than about the expedition which apparently is only covered in 1/3rd of his book. My bad.

  • @royfr8136
    @royfr8136 Год назад

    In the end the men probabaly started fighting eachother, and eating the dead... It was probably every man for himself. Who knows But seeing the end is probably not something you would wish for.

  • @Engehaugen82
    @Engehaugen82 2 года назад

    Roal Amundsen

  • @GordonLonghouse
    @GordonLonghouse 2 года назад +2

    “Would you want to have been present to see the Erebus and Terror in the Arctic?”. A scene of unimaginable suffering. Is this the stupidest question ever posed in an interview program?

    • @jplonsdale7242
      @jplonsdale7242 2 года назад +2

      Humans can't help themselves. Ever heard the expression slowing down to look at a car crash? It's based on fact. If a fighter in combat sports dies or breaks a leg or an arm those are always the most viewed. Kids gathering in packs to watch school ground fights It's just built into us in some part of our brain that's still lizard or ape to be interested. Public executions used to draw massive amounts of people I could go on and on

    • @131alexa
      @131alexa 2 года назад

      I thought Palin gave a very good answer to that, saying that he'd have liked to see Erebus and Terror on their (successful) exploration of the Antarctic. It is an incredible story of adventure and discovery, e.g. being first to encounter the Great Ice Barrier (now called the Ross Ice Shelf): Ross remarked "We might with equal chance of success try to sail through the Cliffs of Dover"! Highly recommend Palin's book, Erebus.

    • @131alexa
      @131alexa 2 года назад

      @@jplonsdale7242 It's true that the fate of the ships & crew is fascinating to people but it would have been odd for Palin to reply that he'd have "liked" to see it: I suppose the question was badly phrased!

  • @margotwenty6436
    @margotwenty6436 2 года назад

    They are both very wealthy men anyway

  • @fifthof1795
    @fifthof1795 2 года назад

    History without the ubiquitous Dan effin Snow would be better.

  • @henrikg1388
    @henrikg1388 2 года назад +2

    Still, we Scandinavians beat you mostly. But there is certainly a few admirable stoic Brits. We should never have let you go. 🤣🤣

    • @bfhfhfhdj
      @bfhfhfhdj 2 года назад +1

      Ernest Henry Shackleton was Irish, Not a Brit. Sure we were part of the British Empire but we were never really that encaustic about it.

    • @henrikg1388
      @henrikg1388 2 года назад +1

      @@bfhfhfhdj I sincerely apologize for the mistake. 🙏
      I know some of the feeling, when people insist on calling me a Swede.

    • @doug6500
      @doug6500 2 года назад +2

      @@henrikg1388 I shouldn't listen to him. Shackleton was Anglo-Irish, had no known republican sympathies, and represented the British Empire. He was as British as they come.
      Let us go? Odd way of describing Stamford Bridge ;-)

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    @barrymace3153 Год назад

    Where was this interview conducted