The main problem I seen many comments say about Americans refusing to do things to make it safer like the video showed is forgetting something. Lets say a politician made it this way and they got a ton of praise. If it was changed then they won't get any praise and instead the people who supported the change would. So the person with the horrible design but social resources fights to keep their design around. This creates a situation where they dig themselves deeper and if changed would make them look really bad so they keep digging.
If you ever get the chance to drive in America, you’ll quickly learn that we are not smart enough for roundabouts. So many people have no care for other’s safety on the road
@@28OverPar yeah, i had an occasion to drive in America (I'm from Poland), and it was wild. Don't get me wrong, it's not like everything and everyone was bad, it was just this weird feeling like some people were driving bad on purpose, making weird turns, braking in most random situations or tailgating each other. And yeah, most intersections i stumbled upon would be a perfect flawless roundabouts
While I could tell it wasn’t a roundabout because no markings it current configuration is literally not working and is just screaming roundabout as a solution. I wonder why it’s not yet at the time of filming.
@@BWB_Cubing maybe they’re referring to the cost it might take to redo the entire area. Which isn’t really a good reason especially if they’re willing to just leave part of it unusable.
Actually if you remove the road all together.. Could add trees or native shrubbery (nee) would be cooler in the summer and funner for snowball fights.. But ya roundabout good to
Brigadier General William Jackson Palmer was a civil engineer. He must've had some sense of humour for them to stick his statue here! I'm sure he'd find it funny.
He founded Colorado springs and laid out it's streets, started the Denver and Rio Grand railroad. I'm not sure when the statue was erected, but general Palmer did these things in the 1870's long before the automobile
@Bepissmall clearly you have never used a round about located in at a major intersection in a school zone with 4 major schools within 500m and a hospital within 200m and a level crossing on the same road 700m away.
@@BadAppleInc64 a traffic light there would only slow it down more. Roundabouts simply move more traffic faster than the same sized traffic light. It's not a debate either, it's simple math. Not stopping makes traffic move faster
I can think of 2 off the top of my head, both in my town, which isnt that large. It just makes sense, roundabouts by their nature will have an open area in the center, n that sh!t just screams for a statue.
You can’t just turn the east / west streets into one way. This is close to the heart of downtown, it would majorly back up during rush hour. Secondly, there’s parallel parking all along those streets that would completely block the street when parking, and you can’t just take them all out when parking in downtown is already so limited and there are a lot of businesses next to here. Easy to make vids like this from afar. When you actually live here, it’s a bit more complicated.
@@lukasbeck4421 I should also clarify-I worked next to this intersection for almost 4 years. You need to keep the 2 lanes here. The intersections are placed close together. Merging to 1 would reduce the capacity of the street on the off-cycles of the east to west green lights. It would totally get jammed up.
@@ryanjohnson4565 you're too fixed on this guy's idea with the number of lanes. Roundabouts with two or even more lanes exist. They didn't merge the street to the roundabout around the Arc de Triomphe to one single lane either
@@robtheroadie2240you only hate roundabouts because of how uncommon they are in, totally guessing here, America? If we implemented them more, you’d see they’re actually preferable in terms of safety and efficiency.
I've seen a few. Buddy of mine's hometown has a statue right in the middle of one. It goes back to the days of dirt roads with horse and buggies where only maybe three people in town had a car(erected a little after WWI). That's usually how it starts, anyway. It really needs to be a roundabout but it's a small town that doesn't wanna finance it when the intersection works fine. To you or me it seems like a no brainer to throw one in there but a poor rural town with a population less than 2000 people doesn't wanna mess with it.
@@SuperSedingAngeL-yr0I thought the same thing. I lived overseas, and there were roundabouts everywhere with art projects in the middle of them. People have been talking more about roundabouts in the US for the last 10 years. We could get rid of lots of traffic lights in busy intersections if we had more roundabouts.
"This central feature is blocking my view, forcing me to slow down and pay attention!" It is so ironic to see a problem like this (historical landmark that cannot be moved) where there is such a clear and obvious solution, yet they pick the least efficient and most dangerous one.
"Roundabout?! This is America, not fucking Europe! I ain't taking 2 extra seconds to go in a circle because I have the time management skills of a carrot!"
I just moved to Minnesota where roundabouts are everywhere. At first I was skeptical but oh my word, they are so useful. I only truly have to worry about one direction of traffic and knowing when to yield is extremely simple. I wish more towns would put them in!
@@SteveSabbai To convert that - or any other - intersection to a roundabout requires no more than appropriate signage on the entry roads, 'traffic guidance' lines on the road - and MAYBE some breeze blocks or such forming a circle. This is frequently done in Aus (and other countries) - eg when a proposed roundabout is being tried. If drivers can't cope with that, they should't have a licence. Why go straight for expensive 'overkill'?! Are you one of the corrupt and incompetent councillors/civil engineers?! 🤔
They'll get rid of left turns on the other streets before they'll build the roundabout. Having the statue there right in the middle is crazy! I'm genuinely surprised an out-of-control tractor-trailer hasn't taken it out yet.
Also fun fact, this statue in Colorado springs, Colorado used to have balls on the horse. Kids would spray paint the balls crazy colors and the city got sick of it so they castrated the horse statue 😂
@@TheFhqwhgadsLimit to be honest, I was going to ask you if it was the Statue of a Confederate general and that's why the city refused to take it down LOL
They say roundabouts takes up a lot of space, while they actually don't ... but when you have intersections this large, you could easily fit a roundabout there.
THANK YOU! I have been saying this for years and no one gets it. But you do. I hate this intersection and it's only gotten worse as more people have been moving to the Springs.
I immediately know that you're a native cause you call it "the Springs" and not something dumb. Yet some how not even people from Fountain, Falcon, Monument, Denver nor Pueblo can get it right.
I live in Colorado Springs and occasionally go by this on the bus. It has always baffled me why this exists, especially since Colorado Springs and CDOT are not opposed to roundabouts, and frequently build new ones and reconfigure intersections to use them. The only reason why they probably don’t redo this intersection is just because it is right in the middle of downtown, and construction would be extremely disruptive.
It never ceases to amaze me how resistant some Americans are to roundabouts. They're used worldwide, have been for decades, and work brilliantly. But, some folks just shouldn't have a driver's license.
Roundabouts, social security, gun control laws, the metric system... You name it. It's a weird country, with some amazing stuff and some horrendous, incomprehensible biases, many of them inherited by MacCarthysm.
There are roundabouts here in Ohio. My mom loves them. If there's no traffic, she has fun with it and will drive in a complete circle before taking her exit.
I’ve never had an issue with the statue you just pull next to it and wait like any other left turn. I always thought it was funny that it wasn’t a roundabout though
The problem is the US has too many people who think they're too old to change. We had a roun dabout put in recently and the town lost it's shit over the idea.
For those of you who are curious, that is Colorado Springs, CO. That statue is of General William Jackson Palmer (and his horse, Diablo). The statue resides in the middle of East Platte Avenue because children in America are no longer taught the meaning of "irony". Palmer was in the American Civil War (Union cavalry), however the statue was erected in 1929 to honor him as a civil engineer--at which he was a once-in-a-generation genius. He helped start the American railroad revolution by building Kansas Pacific and founded Colorado Springs in 1871 as a mid-way repair stop for trains and an embarkation point for gold rush supplies. Despite his contribution, Palmer's name does not appear anywhere in the Colorado Springs Wikipedia article--because he helped slaves escape in his spare time.
@@WifeWantsAWizard it appears in the sidebar list of prominent people. And the link to the Colorado Springs Company (which is stated to have laid out the city) links to his page, but you're correct, he's oddly not mentioned at all in the actual article
I'll never understand why we hate roundabouts as Americans. They're so useful. They're the solution of so many problems and we just refuse to use them.
Because barely any US citizens know how to use a roundabout. Source: American that crashed into me on a roundabout in the UK and said, "Was I meant to stop there?"
@@davidharbour4547 You're not wrong. It's disgusting, honestly. Like, I feel like I would need a moment to process one of the really big ones with more than 2 lanes but I'm flabbergasted by the amount of people who can't make their way around a simple, single lane, traffic circle without cutting someone off.
It's almost like a running gag with how many problems he solves with roundabouts. I literally said to myself: "Lemme guess. A roundabout?" And as sure as grass is green and the sky blue! When in doubt, roundabout!😂
That's something I've noticed with this channel. Seems to me that the only thing this guy does is to propose roundabouts as the solution for every problem there is, or at least he only shows problems where he can put a circle in there and BAM, it's "solved". I'm not saying that a roundabout wouldn't be a good solution for this intersection (I mean, having a statue right in the middle of an intersection like this is fucking insane), or for others, but come on, I don't think that roundabouts should be the solution to *all* of traffic's problems...
@Alfonso162008 It doesn't really matter whether or not you think a roundabout *should* be the best solution to most bad at-grade intersections. The reality is that... they are. Roundabouts are basically always the ideal intersection unless you either can't fit one in the space, or if the intersecting roads have more than 2 lanes going in each direction. The only weakness of a roundabout is that it's throughput doesn't scale well with additional lanes, so they only work for about 2 lanes. Other than that, they simply offer the best balance between throughput, flow, cost, and safety. They score well by all of those metrics, and best in a couple of them.
apparently the us loves building up traffic for not following the 2 easiest things to ease it up: 1. ROUNDABOUTS 2. literally adding bike, pedestrian, and transit infrastructure
I swear that Google's autocorrect is getting dumber on the daily. I can barely write a comprehensable sentence with the current version. 5 years ago i wouldn't think twice about having autocorrect. Lately it's easier to disable it all together. Why is technology mostly just getting worse? For ten years when I was born everything was just getting better. Every two years hardware was faster and smarter. The last 6 years my tech has been going backwards to the extent that I'm seriously trying not to replace anything.
A statue that gets in the way of traffic, if you attempt to appreciate it you’ll get in a crash, and no pedestrians can ever appreciate it. That’s certainly among the most American things I have heard about.
These city officials should have made sure a modern roundabout was built there before that statue was even built! Putting this in a regular intersection is beyond ridiculous!
See the thing about roundabouts is they cost the city precious ticket revenue. If there’s no red lights for people run so the city can write tickets, how will the city make more money for high-ranking cops and officials to embezzle?
@@youdontknowwhoiam2449yes, heavily trafficked areas. In those, it's more efficient to use what is called a diamond intersection. Also regular intersections work in places where there is limited space since roundabouts are very spacious.
Yep, this is a good spot, but too many people are roundabout obsessed. They're tools like any other, and you have to pick the right one for the right job (which may include factors other than traffic). A lot of times, there are better solutions than a roundabout.
@@Jehty_ When it comes to replacing plain intersections, a properly-sized roundabout doesn't give much more throughput than a stoplight, and may perform worse in the larger picture if the lights are well-timed lights. Moreover, the "properly-sized" parts is really important. You might not be able to replace an intersection without knocking down some nearby buildings, which isn't particularly feasible in denser areas. Also, the continuous flow they can provide isn't always a good thing. Sometimes you want your traffic to be "parceled". I used to live relatively close to an intersection that if it was replaced with a roundabout, it would be significantly harder to exit my driveway during busy times because there would be fewer breaks in traffic long enough for me to pull out. At the service/system interchange level, the size tradeoff appears again. If the land is cheap and the traffic is relatively sparse, they're a good choice. You can make them a bit more effective by adding some grade-separated parts, but at that point other grade-separated interchanges are competitive in throughput and safety. In any scenario, roundabouts can break spectacularly when the traffic is unbalanced or they get overwhelmed. Adding lights (e.g. access controlled roundabouts) can help in this situation, but maybe some other solution would have been better in the first place. Finally, there's often a lack of focus on the bigger picture. Many people suggest replacing something with a roundabout when cause of the issue isn't that intersection/interchange.
@@MadocComadrinonly point I agree with is the one about not always wanting a constant flow of traffic. However they are proven to be much safer than traffic lights. At least they should be more prevalent.
My mom is one of the engineers responsible for this project. The land is owned by the Trust of Palmers family (the guy in the statue) so they can’t remove it. The city’s plan has been to build a roundabout for quite some time, they just can’t get the funding. This guy who made the video has stared a petition for it and it has just resulted in many emails and attention from the public without the main issue, finding adequate funding being addressed.
OMG, I KNOW WHERE THAT IS THAT'S PALMER HIGH SCHOOL IN COLORADO SPRINGS!!!! GO TERRORS!!!!! I WISH I STILL LIVED THERE!!!! Fun Fact: Due to kids being killed by cars, Palmer built an underground tunnel system to help them get to the smaller gym. The school is over 175 years old and they have a lovley tradition of ringing the bell when you start as a freshman and graduate as a senior. Their colors are brown and white to match the snowy mountains ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
William Jackson Palmer (1836-1909) was a military general, railroad tycoon, and founder of Colorado Springs. Though a Quaker from Delaware, Palmer fought for the Union Army during the Civil War.
Reminds me to an intersection near my campus, they put a roundabout similar to this one a while back thankfully, makes a massive change on the safety of both pedestrian and drivers
For this intersection specifically, both of these roads are actually quite major, having lived near this intersection myself. I’d argue for a two-lane roundabout, however I can definitely agree that this intersection is just screaming for a roundabout to be put in
The thing about roundabouts is that you don't need as many lanes to move the same amount of cars because no one is stopping for a red light and they're not stacking up.
Americans hate roundabouts to the point that they'd rather drop a big statue awkwardly in the middle of an open intersection that interferes and limits all turns, than build an actual roundabout around it. Insane.
*This particular city hates roundabouts. This might come as a shock, but there’s parts of America that are actively building roundabouts. Other places would’ve made this a roundabout or traffic circle, even if they were uncommon in the local area. This city in particular doesn’t want to build roundabouts.
@@vidcas1711, this particular city is going to hate the statue getting taken out in a collision. They'll be like, "pay for your damages", and the driver will be like, "uno reverse, meet my lawyer, today in court I'll be proving negligence in due public safety by DROPPING A STATUE IN THE MIDDLE OF AN ACTIVE INTERSECTION".
Dear fellow Americans: roundabouts are really fun to go around. I've experienced one on a weekly basis all summer and they're not as stressful as they look. Actually, they're quite nice and they look nice
I'm VERY familiar with that intersection!! Colorado Springs is afraid of roundabouts, but they're happy to play with other forms of traffic flow. Woodmen & Union comes to mind for a mind-bending moment of "how the?? What the?? HUH???"
This is in my hometown; And as good of an idea as it is, I doubt a roundabout will happen there. People have been arguing over that statue for years. As someone who grew up in Colorado Springs and regularly visits my parents there, the city's planning and development sucks ass. Too many traditionalists who want to keep things the way they are versus just as many "innovators" who shit out countless public projects that make the infrastructure even worse than before.
They don't of course but if you have roads connecting like this 99% of the time in the likes of UK and France that would be a roundabout. But that isn't to say that all of our junctions are roundabouts.
@@MarkHewitt1978but even our 4 way intersections are safer than the US ones, because of better traffic light standards, lower speeds and often less lanes. At least in the Netherlands that is
As an American, Americans need to suck it up and learn how to use a roundabout. They're better for your gas tank, better for your wallet, better for your travel time, and they cost less to build initially than a giant intersection. Now that the selfish reasons are out of the way, they're better for the environment, too.
As someone VERY familiar with this city, there is NO way you are cutting Nevada down to one lane in each direction. That is THE major downtown thoroughfare. The city even considered doing just that. Residents damn near rioted.
@Csw7878 That's Platte, not Palmer Park, which is ALSO a major thoroughfare and two lanes all the way out to Academy. So where would this guy propose reducing it to one lane so as not to significantly constrict traffic flow through that intersection (and downtown in general)? It's easy for an outsider to look at a single intersection and make a change. But they didn't look too far beyond the intersection to see what would be affected by the change.
this how we have roundabouts in the netherlands. And I love them! when you pauze the video on the overview of the roundabout. Notice how when you come from below, and want to turn right, if you take the left lane, you dont have to switch lanes on the roundabout itself. It super safe for drivers and pediastrans. I'm not trying to brag, I just love you they work.
We have them all over New England and have for decades. They are only recently being implemented in the rest of the US and many Americans are actually frightened by them. We call them Rotaries,by the way. 😊 They work great!
We have a lot of roundabouts in this very city actually, just only in very low volume streets, like the main road into a neighborhood. These work well bc they’re mostly empty at any given time, so it’s pretty straightforward to use, but a roundabout in a busy downtown intersection like this would freak a lot of Americans out. Some poor grandma would panic and come to full stops to let people in, whereas some middle aged dude will mumble “communist bullcrap traffic circles” while muscling into the roundabout with a Ford F250 without properly yielding, and a dozen other poor idiots would make similar errors in the same hour. It would be a mess.
You should see the intersection just up the way from this intersection, where the left turn lane will be backed up all the way to academy Blvd, but the green arrow is only long enough for 2 cars per cycle.
Driving on it in a busy day, mind you this pretty much the middle of downtown in CO Springs, it's the most infuriating thing on the planet i swear to christ
It probably worked fine in the era the statue was placed there, when there were so few cars and when the cars were basically motorized carriages with a couch plonked on top, with modern large cars and lower visibility, and faster speeds, it's not ideal anymore.
I know this intersection. As a ex local I can say many of us hated it. There is a park to the SW corner that could easily accommodate the statue. For the curious is in Colorado Springs, Co. The statue is of Palmer; don't remember his first name.
@@JV1991 haven't lived there for about ten years now. There were at that time a few roundabouts, so I don't think there would be an issue with public acceptance. However as I remember the intersection in my head, it seems like it would be a tight fit. I think moving the statue into the park makes more sense.
Ever since I went overseas and saw just how much roundabouts help traffic flow, I've been genuinely baffled as to why there aren't more in the states. I can count on one hand the ones I know exist in my state.
Considering where it is, not possible. Traffic lights are needed. Far too many homeless and people on drugs, also many kids who walk in the area. It is quite a heavily used area unfortunately. Downtown area with lots of shops, homeless camps, soup kitchens, libraries etc. Is a roundabout with lights possible? Or would that just be stupid.
@@krystami5789 The entire point of a roundabout is to not have lights. Left turns don't have to cross traffic, yield signs allow more vehicles through, and crosswalks are shorter for pedestrians.
@@krystami5789 You name all the problems a roundabout fixes. And too many homeless and drug abusers should never be an excuse for a civilised country not to improve infrastructure. Don't buy into your government's excuses for doing a poor job.
@@siosilvar ah okay, that makes sense then. Still unfortunate that we got so many homeless who are walking around like zombies due to drugs. Like, I'm just worried about them getting hit or something. Already got to worry about homeless camps being bulldozed with maybe at most just a single warning. But who knows, they already try to cross there as is, would be safer if they are already trying when it is red. I totally forgot a ton just jaywalk anyways. I think as I go OTL
@@NtoTheM I actually replied to another comment kinda saying this generally, and that I think as I go and process as I go. Also I remembered they tend to jaywalk anyways and cross when red, so it would help regardless. I've never been to one so wasn't sure how they work.
You should take a look at the intersection of Brown Ave and Tenth St in Cookeville, TN. There’s two lights right after each other with enough space to barely fit a car.
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Less phobia, moreso our driving instruction and certification is really lax. Driving related taxes and charges bring a lot of money into the government, so they instead choose to pay the lesser cost of working on expanding roads than anything else of the variety. More cars, more lanes, more money.
Depends on the city. One lane roundabouts are easy and you really have to be a moron to mess it up. The 2 lane ones are the ones that trip me up. I stick to the outer ring, I don't get the point of the inner ring. I've had many cars just switch from inner to outer rings without looking or singaling at all. The one showed here had partial outer rings, I've only seen complete 2 rings and have had many luxury car drivers try to take out my front corner panel
@@maxprdctnsYou’re probably still learning and I understand that. We all start somewhere. Just don’t stop in the middle of the roundabout and you’ll know how to drive in a circle in no time. Go get em tiger.
@@maxprdctnsYES BRUTHER WE AMERICANS CANNOT DRIVE IN CIRCLES THATS COMMUNIST EUROPEAN PROPOGANDA!!!! AN INCREASED CRASH RATE AND SLOWER TRAFFIC IS ALL WHAT WE ARE ABOUT 🇺🇲🇺🇲🦅🚘💥🚗
Literally listened for 10 seconds and immediately thought, "So put in a roundabout."
i think anyone except American civil engineers did
The words will make you out'n'out
Your car can go your waaay
Call it morning driving through the sound of
Round' around statue pretty
@@trailgamer5what?
The main problem I seen many comments say about Americans refusing to do things to make it safer like the video showed is forgetting something.
Lets say a politician made it this way and they got a ton of praise. If it was changed then they won't get any praise and instead the people who supported the change would. So the person with the horrible design but social resources fights to keep their design around. This creates a situation where they dig themselves deeper and if changed would make them look really bad so they keep digging.
Huge missed opportunity for a roundabout
my European brain genuinely thought it was a roundabout where they forgot to paint the lanes
same
If you ever get the chance to drive in America, you’ll quickly learn that we are not smart enough for roundabouts. So many people have no care for other’s safety on the road
@@28OverPar yeah, i had an occasion to drive in America (I'm from Poland), and it was wild.
Don't get me wrong, it's not like everything and everyone was bad, it was just this weird feeling like some people were driving bad on purpose, making weird turns, braking in most random situations or tailgating each other.
And yeah, most intersections i stumbled upon would be a perfect flawless roundabouts
While I could tell it wasn’t a roundabout because no markings it current configuration is literally not working and is just screaming roundabout as a solution. I wonder why it’s not yet at the time of filming.
Welcome to Colorado Springs! I actively avoid this intersection some days
That's crazy. The intersection is basically screaming to put a roundabout in and they still won't do it lmao.
Every European saw the answer coming from a mile away
What happened to my beautiful country man 💔
@@lmenusyep xD
@porozil4068 How do you think your country used to be?
Americans are crazy. They'll do anything to not put a roundabout
Litterally in the first like 15seconds i was like:
Why not just make it a roundabout
this is the way
Because the statue is historiccc
@@miserywas6524 and?
The statue can stay where it is
@@miserywas6524You just need to build around it. Should be easy for any city contractor really.
@@BWB_Cubing maybe they’re referring to the cost it might take to redo the entire area. Which isn’t really a good reason especially if they’re willing to just leave part of it unusable.
A roundabout is the only reasonable solution if you want to have a statue in the middle
Or a j turn
@@revimfadli4666 Now we’re just making things up. All this to avoid the simple solution of one more lane
@@wildfire9280 Bro almost reached peak traffic solution 😆👍👍
@@wildfire9280this is how it starts
Actually if you remove the road all together.. Could add trees or native shrubbery (nee) would be cooler in the summer and funner for snowball fights.. But ya roundabout good to
Brigadier General William Jackson Palmer was a civil engineer. He must've had some sense of humour for them to stick his statue here! I'm sure he'd find it funny.
Bloody hilarious. That or he'd be fuming at the idiocy. Either or would be warranted.
Isn't that the man of the cities skylines statue ?
He founded Colorado springs and laid out it's streets, started the Denver and Rio Grand railroad. I'm not sure when the statue was erected, but general Palmer did these things in the 1870's long before the automobile
@@SarahJohnson-bv2shEven for a horse drawn carriage I think that a statue in the middle of an intersection would still be a nightmare.
@@RryhhbfrHhgdHhgd356 I agree. Perhaps even worse considering the length of a horse drawn wagon would be
I do love how the solution to basically every problematic intersection is just "put in a roundabout" 😂
Lmao. This is funny and accurate
Unless that intersection is a roundabout and it requires traffic lights for better traffic flow.
@@BadAppleInc64 there is literally no situation where a traffic light flows more traffic than a roundabout
@Bepissmall clearly you have never used a round about located in at a major intersection in a school zone with 4 major schools within 500m and a hospital within 200m and a level crossing on the same road 700m away.
@@BadAppleInc64 a traffic light there would only slow it down more. Roundabouts simply move more traffic faster than the same sized traffic light. It's not a debate either, it's simple math. Not stopping makes traffic move faster
Saw it for 5 seconds and thought: ROUNDABOUT. I can’t understand how you’d make this anything else but a roundabout
Roundabout for cheaper construction costs.
Fly-over bridge for more expensive construction costs.
What if you put the statue over a metallic skeleton that wouldn't block the view?
Remove statute. Re-allow turn lanes. Time traffic signals accordingly. No roundabout, no redoing the side roads to make them smaller.
@@markh.6687 No. the statue is sexy. keep it and make a roundabout and make the intersection 1.sexy 2. flow better 3.safer.
I looked at that and thought “half-assed square roundabout”
That's a squareabout
Should've been a squircle yeah
Same!
@@ricecakemadness7578As far as invented word goes, YOU WIN!
@@mattsvids0120 the best part is, a squircle is the actual mathematical name for a shape that's not quite square, not quite circle
This is so weird because in Europe statues in the middle of roundabouts are very common, but I don't think I've ever seen a statue at an intersection.
There are a few in DC too (usa)
It's even better because the statue is of a guy riding a horse. As though he's giving the middle finger to modern driving.
I have.
If I recall, there’s a WWII plane on a roundabout in Slovakia, not just statues! 😅
I can think of 2 off the top of my head, both in my town, which isnt that large.
It just makes sense, roundabouts by their nature will have an open area in the center, n that sh!t just screams for a statue.
Ive never seen an intersection that screamed so violently for a roundabout like this one
You can’t just turn the east / west streets into one way. This is close to the heart of downtown, it would majorly back up during rush hour. Secondly, there’s parallel parking all along those streets that would completely block the street when parking, and you can’t just take them all out when parking in downtown is already so limited and there are a lot of businesses next to here. Easy to make vids like this from afar. When you actually live here, it’s a bit more complicated.
@@ryanjohnson4565since when does a roundabout back up more than an intersection with traffic lights?
@@lukasbeck4421 when there’s a 2-lane to 1-way merge going both ways in the middle of a crowded downtown. That’s when.
@@lukasbeck4421 I should also clarify-I worked next to this intersection for almost 4 years. You need to keep the 2 lanes here. The intersections are placed close together. Merging to 1 would reduce the capacity of the street on the off-cycles of the east to west green lights. It would totally get jammed up.
@@ryanjohnson4565 you're too fixed on this guy's idea with the number of lanes. Roundabouts with two or even more lanes exist. They didn't merge the street to the roundabout around the Arc de Triomphe to one single lane either
Whenever I doubt my intelligence, I will remember that an engineer thought this was a good idea.
Odds are an engineer thought it wasn't a good idea, but a politician did
I love how every video about correcting intersections just makes them roundabouts
I hate roundabouts!!🤬
@robtheroadie2240 and I love roundabouts, we should procreate and ask our children their opinion
That should tell you something about roundabouts being significantly better/safer than lights and stop signs.
@@robtheroadie2240you only hate roundabouts because of how uncommon they are in, totally guessing here, America? If we implemented them more, you’d see they’re actually preferable in terms of safety and efficiency.
@@titaiao 😂😂lol
This is fucking hilarious, I've never seen a statue in the middle of a regular intersection 😂
I'm pretty sure when the statue got there, there wasn't an intersection.
@@CrissJake I get that, but to try to remedy it by just preventing left turns is ridiculous. Not moving the statue or making a roundabout is so lazy!
I've seen a few. Buddy of mine's hometown has a statue right in the middle of one. It goes back to the days of dirt roads with horse and buggies where only maybe three people in town had a car(erected a little after WWI). That's usually how it starts, anyway.
It really needs to be a roundabout but it's a small town that doesn't wanna finance it when the intersection works fine.
To you or me it seems like a no brainer to throw one in there but a poor rural town with a population less than 2000 people doesn't wanna mess with it.
It’s really bizarre, anywhere else this would just be a roundabout.
America is allergic to roundabouts.
Before he even started talking about what was wrong I immediately said "why isn't there a roundabout here?" It makes the most sense! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Ssssure you did. 😏
@@SuperSedingAngeL-yr0I thought the same thing. I lived overseas, and there were roundabouts everywhere with art projects in the middle of them. People have been talking more about roundabouts in the US for the last 10 years. We could get rid of lots of traffic lights in busy intersections if we had more roundabouts.
@@SuperSedingAngeL-yr0every non american thought of that, so he probably did
@@lechatrelou6393even as an American I did as well
They are slowly becoming more popular in the USA but still is slower than it should be
"This central feature is blocking my view, forcing me to slow down and pay attention!"
It is so ironic to see a problem like this (historical landmark that cannot be moved) where there is such a clear and obvious solution, yet they pick the least efficient and most dangerous one.
"Roundabout?! This is America, not fucking Europe! I ain't taking 2 extra seconds to go in a circle because I have the time management skills of a carrot!"
I mean with no stop lights. It'd be faster really.
This is to make it easy and intuitive
As a European I instinctively thought this was a roundabout
same! my first thought was “hey, that’s a funky looking roundabout!” and then “wait, it’s not?!”
I too thought the same, and I'm not even European.
Me building the shittiest intersections in Cities Skylines:
I just moved to Minnesota where roundabouts are everywhere. At first I was skeptical but oh my word, they are so useful. I only truly have to worry about one direction of traffic and knowing when to yield is extremely simple. I wish more towns would put them in!
This is in Colorado Springs. I have driven through the intersection multiple times, and yes, it is confusing.
It is not confusing, it's stupid.
Yep, I knew where it was right away. My extended family lived in that area.
Yep lived In CS for 2 years
I avoided this dam intersection just for this reason
I HATE THIS INTERSECTION. My first thought was it needing to be a round about. AND I HATE THOSE TOO
@@LNC4Psammmmmeee
For a country so obsessed with driving everywhere, I'm shocked at how bad America's roads are. Roundabouts should be essential.
Exactly. Why are our intersections so dangerous 😅
I feel like our civil engineers had a “We ball” mentality during the construction period
Roads are not dangerous.
It's the drivers who use them.
I live in Minnesota, my town is full of em lol
@@SteveSabbai
To convert that - or any other - intersection to a roundabout requires no more than appropriate signage on the entry roads, 'traffic guidance' lines on the road - and MAYBE some breeze blocks or such forming a circle.
This is frequently done in Aus (and other countries) - eg when a proposed roundabout is being tried.
If drivers can't cope with that, they should't have a licence.
Why go straight for expensive 'overkill'?!
Are you one of the corrupt and incompetent councillors/civil engineers?! 🤔
They'll get rid of left turns on the other streets before they'll build the roundabout. Having the statue there right in the middle is crazy! I'm genuinely surprised an out-of-control tractor-trailer hasn't taken it out yet.
Don’t give them any ideas!
It probably has, and it's rebuilt at great cost every single time. But it's not a roundabout darnit!
An "out of control" semi really should, it would heavily benefit the community
But why not get rid of all left turns everywhere in the town? It makes driving safer
@@johnygotapseudonymjust stop
It's literally the most perfect place to put a roundabout.
When he said there was a way to improve, I was yelling "roundabout" in my head like it was Dora the Explorer
"Huh is this a roundabout?" My European brain asked because of the statue.
just paint a circle around it, and everyone would follow.
I saw it and was like, why are the cars going straight on that roundabout
My American brain saw this and thought "why wouldn't they just build a roundabout?"
Me, as an American, absolutely hates roundabouts, but if you want to have a statue in the middle of the road use a damn roundabout.
For real. I genuinely assumed it was a roundabout without markings.
I live here. Drive there all the time, recognized it immediately. Please someone come and help fix the roads they're so bad
What is this town called???
Colorado springs I think (based off of other comments) @@Cwilliam1999
Also fun fact, this statue in Colorado springs, Colorado used to have balls on the horse. Kids would spray paint the balls crazy colors and the city got sick of it so they castrated the horse statue 😂
@@Cwilliam1999 Colorado Springs. The statue is the founder of the city General Palmer
@@TheFhqwhgadsLimit to be honest, I was going to ask you if it was the Statue of a Confederate general and that's why the city refused to take it down LOL
They say roundabouts takes up a lot of space, while they actually don't ... but when you have intersections this large, you could easily fit a roundabout there.
It's miracle that this statue is still standing. It asks for a semi hitting it full frontal from all 4 directions.
or a train
Last year there were 21 crashes there. A man was hit and killed while riding his motorcycle in the intersection last April.
Most semi drivers are better than you're giving them credit for.
@@pulaski1 most is the key here.
Given how massive and heavy that base is I wouldn't want to be that semi driver.
A roundabout would also make the whole area look so much nicer, adding a flower-island around the statue, would also make it much more significant.
Right. Not signs all around the statue...people can actually go look at it up close maybe.
THANK YOU! I have been saying this for years and no one gets it. But you do. I hate this intersection and it's only gotten worse as more people have been moving to the Springs.
I immediately know that you're a native cause you call it "the Springs" and not something dumb. Yet some how not even people from Fountain, Falcon, Monument, Denver nor Pueblo can get it right.
Any time I need to come through this part of town, I’m avoiding this intersection. Always been a terrible place to try to turn left.
I knew it looked familiar! I kept thinking to myself is this Colorado Springs!? We moved away during the pandemic.
I felt that I remember being able to turn there. Now, there are so many people taking Nevada that you can make your way around it.
You should protest against the mayor about this!
I live in Colorado Springs and occasionally go by this on the bus. It has always baffled me why this exists, especially since Colorado Springs and CDOT are not opposed to roundabouts, and frequently build new ones and reconfigure intersections to use them. The only reason why they probably don’t redo this intersection is just because it is right in the middle of downtown, and construction would be extremely disruptive.
It never ceases to amaze me how resistant some Americans are to roundabouts. They're used worldwide, have been for decades, and work brilliantly. But, some folks just shouldn't have a driver's license.
Roundabouts, social security, gun control laws, the metric system... You name it. It's a weird country, with some amazing stuff and some horrendous, incomprehensible biases, many of them inherited by MacCarthysm.
Because Yanks don’t know how to use them…
There are roundabouts here in Ohio. My mom loves them. If there's no traffic, she has fun with it and will drive in a complete circle before taking her exit.
@@user-pw8zd7ns3py’all doing it right in ohio
Some folks shouldn't stick big objects in the middle of inappropriate intersections.
That intersection did already work pretty similarly to a roundabout, but with none of the upsides.
I’ve never had an issue with the statue you just pull next to it and wait like any other left turn. I always thought it was funny that it wasn’t a roundabout though
As someone in the UK, from the moment i saw it it the middle my brain is just screeming roundabout at the screen the entire time!!
same lol
The problem is the US has too many people who think they're too old to change. We had a roun dabout put in recently and the town lost it's shit over the idea.
Same, I was just repeating it haha
It took me zero civil engineering education to understand that the right choice was a roundabout. Thank you.
For those of you who are curious, that is Colorado Springs, CO. That statue is of General William Jackson Palmer (and his horse, Diablo). The statue resides in the middle of East Platte Avenue because children in America are no longer taught the meaning of "irony".
Palmer was in the American Civil War (Union cavalry), however the statue was erected in 1929 to honor him as a civil engineer--at which he was a once-in-a-generation genius. He helped start the American railroad revolution by building Kansas Pacific and founded Colorado Springs in 1871 as a mid-way repair stop for trains and an embarkation point for gold rush supplies. Despite his contribution, Palmer's name does not appear anywhere in the Colorado Springs Wikipedia article--because he helped slaves escape in his spare time.
@@WifeWantsAWizard it appears in the sidebar list of prominent people. And the link to the Colorado Springs Company (which is stated to have laid out the city) links to his page, but you're correct, he's oddly not mentioned at all in the actual article
I'll never understand why we hate roundabouts as Americans. They're so useful. They're the solution of so many problems and we just refuse to use them.
Because it's harder to drive on a roundabout, Americans are terrible drivers!
Because barely any US citizens know how to use a roundabout.
Source: American that crashed into me on a roundabout in the UK and said, "Was I meant to stop there?"
@@davidharbour4547 You're not wrong. It's disgusting, honestly. Like, I feel like I would need a moment to process one of the really big ones with more than 2 lanes but I'm flabbergasted by the amount of people who can't make their way around a simple, single lane, traffic circle without cutting someone off.
1. Majority of Americans hate them because they’re too dumb to figure them out.
2. The rest of us hate them because 1. ruins them.
@@davidharbour4547 Giving way to people inside roundabout is not exactly rocket science.
Whether you like or don’t like driving through roundabouts, this intersection’s peak form is a roundabout with ZERO doubt in my mind
Our mayor thought this too and built like 20 rpundabouts. I like roundabouts, but its not always better
I don’t know I was recommended this channel but I’m most certainly not complaining
And one corner is a central city park and another is a high school. Pedestrian safety should be the priority here.
america hates pedestrians unfortunately
@@82ABNcant tax walking, its the same reason we have to do taxes through turbotax, private healthcare, etc…
More corporations = more money gained
It's almost like a running gag with how many problems he solves with roundabouts. I literally said to myself: "Lemme guess. A roundabout?" And as sure as grass is green and the sky blue! When in doubt, roundabout!😂
That's something I've noticed with this channel. Seems to me that the only thing this guy does is to propose roundabouts as the solution for every problem there is, or at least he only shows problems where he can put a circle in there and BAM, it's "solved". I'm not saying that a roundabout wouldn't be a good solution for this intersection (I mean, having a statue right in the middle of an intersection like this is fucking insane), or for others, but come on, I don't think that roundabouts should be the solution to *all* of traffic's problems...
Its like the same thing with the channel “adamsomething” where every problems solution is just trains
@Alfonso162008 It doesn't really matter whether or not you think a roundabout *should* be the best solution to most bad at-grade intersections. The reality is that... they are.
Roundabouts are basically always the ideal intersection unless you either can't fit one in the space, or if the intersecting roads have more than 2 lanes going in each direction.
The only weakness of a roundabout is that it's throughput doesn't scale well with additional lanes, so they only work for about 2 lanes.
Other than that, they simply offer the best balance between throughput, flow, cost, and safety. They score well by all of those metrics, and best in a couple of them.
apparently the us loves building up traffic for not following the 2 easiest things to ease it up:
1. ROUNDABOUTS
2. literally adding bike, pedestrian, and transit infrastructure
I mean, I don't know who this guy is and the roundabout was my immediate thought as the only sane option
The happiness I felt when you added the roundabout is crazy.
I swear that Google's autocorrect is getting dumber on the daily. I can barely write a comprehensable sentence with the current version.
5 years ago i wouldn't think twice about having autocorrect. Lately it's easier to disable it all together.
Why is technology mostly just getting worse? For ten years when I was born everything was just getting better. Every two years hardware was faster and smarter. The last 6 years my tech has been going backwards to the extent that I'm seriously trying not to replace anything.
A Union soldier who deserves this statue. He fought to keep us together. A true hero, unlike the statues of those who fought to keep us apart.
I knew it! When I saw how big it was and the statue in the middle.
I thought: "he's gonna turn it into a round about."
That one time a round about is literally the best option no matter what.
roundabout is always the best option
Roundabouts are almost always the better option
I will take roundabouts over a traffic light any day of the week.
Roundabouts are the best and thr best option here
@@jacob4tee They're really not, and they become a nightmare when one accessway cannot gain entry.
A statue that gets in the way of traffic, if you attempt to appreciate it you’ll get in a crash, and no pedestrians can ever appreciate it. That’s certainly among the most American things I have heard about.
Even without a statue I don't get how this can be not a roundabout.
I swear civil engineers can’t even screw in a light bulb, a roundabout would have fixed everything
Civil engineers developed the roundabout.
@@JeremiahSlack-ky9dq no it was invented by a French architect
Civil engineers are restrained by budgets they get from politicians
These city officials should have made sure a modern roundabout was built there before that statue was even built! Putting this in a regular intersection is beyond ridiculous!
I'd guess the statue has been there for over a hundred years, before the roads were widened.
It likely used to be more of a dirt roundabout until it became a big ole road
See the thing about roundabouts is they cost the city precious ticket revenue. If there’s no red lights for people run so the city can write tickets, how will the city make more money for high-ranking cops and officials to embezzle?
The statue has been there a very long time.
That statue was built in 1929 are you smoking crack ?
if i have ever seen a need for a roundabout this is it.
Or just move the statue
@@Magjee I mean they clearly do not want to move the statue.
@@ShadowTaigathe city has pretty much said moving it isn't an option. Expensive and likely to be damaged.
It’s funny because I believe that in Brazil people would act as if it were a roundabout in the first place. Roundabouts are natural driving
I love how every time he remakes intersections he always uses round-abouts.
Because they're more efficient 🤦♂️
@@MrBeenus and safer
@@MrBeenusbut like is there ever a time where the solution isnt a roundabout? I only say that because the videos are getting pretty repetitive.
@@youdontknowwhoiam2449if it works, why replace it?
@@youdontknowwhoiam2449yes, heavily trafficked areas. In those, it's more efficient to use what is called a diamond intersection. Also regular intersections work in places where there is limited space since roundabouts are very spacious.
This is the first time I've agreed with "yeah a roundabout just sounds like the best option to go forward with, I'm all for that"
Yep, this is a good spot, but too many people are roundabout obsessed.
They're tools like any other, and you have to pick the right one for the right job (which may include factors other than traffic). A lot of times, there are better solutions than a roundabout.
Really? Why?
I would say it's the exact opposite. The intersections where a roundabout isn't the best option are few and far between.
@@Jehty_ When it comes to replacing plain intersections, a properly-sized roundabout doesn't give much more throughput than a stoplight, and may perform worse in the larger picture if the lights are well-timed lights. Moreover, the "properly-sized" parts is really important. You might not be able to replace an intersection without knocking down some nearby buildings, which isn't particularly feasible in denser areas.
Also, the continuous flow they can provide isn't always a good thing. Sometimes you want your traffic to be "parceled". I used to live relatively close to an intersection that if it was replaced with a roundabout, it would be significantly harder to exit my driveway during busy times because there would be fewer breaks in traffic long enough for me to pull out.
At the service/system interchange level, the size tradeoff appears again. If the land is cheap and the traffic is relatively sparse, they're a good choice. You can make them a bit more effective by adding some grade-separated parts, but at that point other grade-separated interchanges are competitive in throughput and safety.
In any scenario, roundabouts can break spectacularly when the traffic is unbalanced or they get overwhelmed. Adding lights (e.g. access controlled roundabouts) can help in this situation, but maybe some other solution would have been better in the first place.
Finally, there's often a lack of focus on the bigger picture. Many people suggest replacing something with a roundabout when cause of the issue isn't that intersection/interchange.
@@Jehty_ What Madoc said. When you only know how to use a hammer, every intersection looks like a nail
@@MadocComadrinonly point I agree with is the one about not always wanting a constant flow of traffic. However they are proven to be much safer than traffic lights. At least they should be more prevalent.
You inspired a petition that's gone before the city! Hell yeah!
That's power.
Hip hip hooray!
My mom is one of the engineers responsible for this project. The land is owned by the Trust of Palmers family (the guy in the statue) so they can’t remove it. The city’s plan has been to build a roundabout for quite some time, they just can’t get the funding. This guy who made the video has stared a petition for it and it has just resulted in many emails and attention from the public without the main issue, finding adequate funding being addressed.
@jukethecoopyt393 make it a new comment instead of posting as a reply
@jukethecoopyt393 If there is enough public pressure they will find funding easier to come by.
I love roundabouts. But the ‘after’ animation is hilarious watching the cars bend as they go through the roundabout.
OMG, I KNOW WHERE THAT IS THAT'S PALMER HIGH SCHOOL IN COLORADO SPRINGS!!!! GO TERRORS!!!!! I WISH I STILL LIVED THERE!!!!
Fun Fact: Due to kids being killed by cars, Palmer built an underground tunnel system to help them get to the smaller gym. The school is over 175 years old and they have a lovley tradition of ringing the bell when you start as a freshman and graduate as a senior. Their colors are brown and white to match the snowy mountains ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
GO T-BIRDS!
Thought it looked familiar. I miss COS
Were the kids killed because the drivers couldn’t see them behind the statue
Those tunnels are creepy as hell under palmer we were wandering around during a debate tournament and got down there.
Love this intersection in Springs. Reminds me every morning that the people who design everything truly have no idea what is going on in our lives.
thought that looked like colo springs
Knew I recognized it
I was just about to say that this was in the springs lol.
American civil engineers: "Roundabout? I hardly know her!"
Thats not even how the joke works my guy
William Jackson Palmer (1836-1909) was a military general, railroad tycoon, and founder of Colorado Springs. Though a Quaker from Delaware, Palmer fought for the Union Army during the Civil War.
Reminds me to an intersection near my campus, they put a roundabout similar to this one a while back thankfully, makes a massive change on the safety of both pedestrian and drivers
For this intersection specifically, both of these roads are actually quite major, having lived near this intersection myself.
I’d argue for a two-lane roundabout, however I can definitely agree that this intersection is just screaming for a roundabout to be put in
Where is this? That's so crazy
@@SatanEnjoyerThis is the intersection of Platte and N Nevada in downtown Colorado springs
The thing about roundabouts is that you don't need as many lanes to move the same amount of cars because no one is stopping for a red light and they're not stacking up.
CO Springs needs to get their civil engineers out to Carmel Indiana ASAP.
He shows a 2 lane roundabout in the video..
Roundabouts are top tier. No lights, no stopping, no turning signals!
Americans hate roundabouts to the point that they'd rather drop a big statue awkwardly in the middle of an open intersection that interferes and limits all turns, than build an actual roundabout around it. Insane.
*This particular city hates roundabouts. This might come as a shock, but there’s parts of America that are actively building roundabouts. Other places would’ve made this a roundabout or traffic circle, even if they were uncommon in the local area. This city in particular doesn’t want to build roundabouts.
@@vidcas1711, this particular city is going to hate the statue getting taken out in a collision. They'll be like, "pay for your damages", and the driver will be like, "uno reverse, meet my lawyer, today in court I'll be proving negligence in due public safety by DROPPING A STATUE IN THE MIDDLE OF AN ACTIVE INTERSECTION".
@@vidcas1711Minnesota can't stop building roundabouts
@@vidcas1711 no, only particular cities like roundabouts in the USA
Don't say this when florida exists
Dear fellow Americans: roundabouts are really fun to go around. I've experienced one on a weekly basis all summer and they're not as stressful as they look. Actually, they're quite nice and they look nice
Brother what are you on about? Circles (or roundabouts or whatever you want to call them) are extremely common in much of the country.
No. They are not.
@@undercompositionPlease never drive a car
@@vexiaq5776 because I don't think roundabouts are "fun"?
@@undercomposition I think it's more fun to drive on a roundabout with no wait than stay at traffic lights just to make a turn
The moment i look at that, i could tell a roundabout would fix it.
I'm VERY familiar with that intersection!! Colorado Springs is afraid of roundabouts, but they're happy to play with other forms of traffic flow. Woodmen & Union comes to mind for a mind-bending moment of "how the?? What the?? HUH???"
This is in my hometown; And as good of an idea as it is, I doubt a roundabout will happen there. People have been arguing over that statue for years.
As someone who grew up in Colorado Springs and regularly visits my parents there, the city's planning and development sucks ass. Too many traditionalists who want to keep things the way they are versus just as many "innovators" who shit out countless public projects that make the infrastructure even worse than before.
Cities: Skylines has taught me that if you ever have a traffic problem, roundabout
Roundabouts fix like 80% of traffic issues it seems.
They don't of course but if you have roads connecting like this 99% of the time in the likes of UK and France that would be a roundabout. But that isn't to say that all of our junctions are roundabouts.
@@MarkHewitt1978but even our 4 way intersections are safer than the US ones, because of better traffic light standards, lower speeds and often less lanes. At least in the Netherlands that is
As an American, Americans need to suck it up and learn how to use a roundabout. They're better for your gas tank, better for your wallet, better for your travel time, and they cost less to build initially than a giant intersection.
Now that the selfish reasons are out of the way, they're better for the environment, too.
“Make it a roundabout” was my first thought
As someone VERY familiar with this city, there is NO way you are cutting Nevada down to one lane in each direction. That is THE major downtown thoroughfare. The city even considered doing just that. Residents damn near rioted.
I swear that it's a better route than I25! Just gotta watch for the college kids that DON'T FUCKIN LOOK before they cross!
Nevada would still be 2 lanes. Palmer would be 1 lane and could wide after the intersection. Always hated this spot lol
@Csw7878
That's Platte, not Palmer Park, which is ALSO a major thoroughfare and two lanes all the way out to Academy. So where would this guy propose reducing it to one lane so as not to significantly constrict traffic flow through that intersection (and downtown in general)? It's easy for an outsider to look at a single intersection and make a change. But they didn't look too far beyond the intersection to see what would be affected by the change.
Tbf adding a couple lanes to the roundabout exits isn’t too difficult and would still work much better than just a random statue in the road
@@jfangmthat’s when you add more roundabouts. The more you have the better the traffic will flow
this how we have roundabouts in the netherlands. And I love them! when you pauze the video on the overview of the roundabout. Notice how when you come from below, and want to turn right, if you take the left lane, you dont have to switch lanes on the roundabout itself. It super safe for drivers and pediastrans. I'm not trying to brag, I just love you they work.
We have them all over New England and have for decades. They are only recently being implemented in the rest of the US and many Americans are actually frightened by them. We call them Rotaries,by the way. 😊 They work great!
"Roundabout or intersection?"
"Yes"
OH MY GOD, i live here and i still get pissed off every-time I drive past that intersection. It confuses everyone 😭
In case you were wondering, the intersection is in Downtown Colorado Springs, Colorado.
Im so glad you said put a roundabout there. The whole vid i was thinking "have americans not heard of FUCKING ROUNDABOUTS"
We have a lot of roundabouts in this very city actually, just only in very low volume streets, like the main road into a neighborhood. These work well bc they’re mostly empty at any given time, so it’s pretty straightforward to use, but a roundabout in a busy downtown intersection like this would freak a lot of Americans out. Some poor grandma would panic and come to full stops to let people in, whereas some middle aged dude will mumble “communist bullcrap traffic circles” while muscling into the roundabout with a Ford F250 without properly yielding, and a dozen other poor idiots would make similar errors in the same hour. It would be a mess.
Phoenix metro getting a lot of roundabouts
We have. They suck.
@@busterblast3416Whatever mess a roundabout it would be, a roundabout would never come close to this abomination
@@Triaxx2 Roundabouts don't suck, overconfident drivers with bottomless ego driving unsafe 3 tonne trucks do
I think this is literally the single best place a roundabout can go.
As a Brit, the first thing I thought was: "Why is this not a roundabout?" 😂
Because Americans don't know how to use them 😬
This might officially be the worst piece of infrastructure i've ever seen
You should see the intersection just up the way from this intersection, where the left turn lane will be backed up all the way to academy Blvd, but the green arrow is only long enough for 2 cars per cycle.
Driving on it in a busy day, mind you this pretty much the middle of downtown in CO Springs, it's the most infuriating thing on the planet i swear to christ
It probably worked fine in the era the statue was placed there, when there were so few cars and when the cars were basically motorized carriages with a couch plonked on top, with modern large cars and lower visibility, and faster speeds, it's not ideal anymore.
Nah, nothing will ever beat the Beverly Hills 6 way intersection
Sometimes this channel reminds me of that “the square hole” video, but with roundabouts
The one time they don’t put in a roundabout somewhere it’s when it is most sensible.
The more of these videos I watch, the more I learn that roundabouts are always the answer
I know this intersection. As a ex local I can say many of us hated it. There is a park to the SW corner that could easily accommodate the statue.
For the curious is in Colorado Springs, Co. The statue is of Palmer; don't remember his first name.
Would that mean that there could be active support to build an actual roundabout?
@@JV1991 haven't lived there for about ten years now. There were at that time a few roundabouts, so I don't think there would be an issue with public acceptance. However as I remember the intersection in my head, it seems like it would be a tight fit. I think moving the statue into the park makes more sense.
@@robertb8824the statue was there first. Typical Americans want to force room for cars and more concrete, making it even more of a barren wasteland
@@bldontmatter5319 xenophobe
William.
General William Jackson Palmer, he was the founder of Colorado Springs.
I would totally hire this guy to redesign America's roads
Not all of America’s roads. Florida has great road infrastructure.
Ever since I went overseas and saw just how much roundabouts help traffic flow, I've been genuinely baffled as to why there aren't more in the states. I can count on one hand the ones I know exist in my state.
I would have been mad if you didn't make it a roundabout. Your design for this roundabout seems good.
Literally as soon as the short started I’m thinking that needs to be a roundabout.
As a non-British West-European, I have to point out you forgot the bike lanes
Based
It’s America, he didn’t forget.
Statues and beautiful fountains in roundabouts all throughout Europe. Makes so much sense and they make cities more attractive.
RUclips Feed: “This intersection is weird and broken.”
Me: ”Could the answer be a roundabout?”
The universe: “The answer is always a roundabout.”
It's literally a roundabout already. Just remove the traffic lights, draw 4 lines on the ground and you're done.
Considering where it is, not possible. Traffic lights are needed. Far too many homeless and people on drugs, also many kids who walk in the area.
It is quite a heavily used area unfortunately. Downtown area with lots of shops, homeless camps, soup kitchens, libraries etc.
Is a roundabout with lights possible? Or would that just be stupid.
@@krystami5789 The entire point of a roundabout is to not have lights. Left turns don't have to cross traffic, yield signs allow more vehicles through, and crosswalks are shorter for pedestrians.
@@krystami5789 You name all the problems a roundabout fixes.
And too many homeless and drug abusers should never be an excuse for a civilised country not to improve infrastructure. Don't buy into your government's excuses for doing a poor job.
@@siosilvar ah okay, that makes sense then.
Still unfortunate that we got so many homeless who are walking around like zombies due to drugs.
Like, I'm just worried about them getting hit or something. Already got to worry about homeless camps being bulldozed with maybe at most just a single warning.
But who knows, they already try to cross there as is, would be safer if they are already trying when it is red. I totally forgot a ton just jaywalk anyways.
I think as I go OTL
@@NtoTheM I actually replied to another comment kinda saying this generally, and that I think as I go and process as I go.
Also I remembered they tend to jaywalk anyways and cross when red, so it would help regardless.
I've never been to one so wasn't sure how they work.
Never have i seen an intersection more desperate for a roundabout
Congrats on 3k dood!
I was screaming "roundabout" waiting for you to day it lol
You should take a look at the intersection of Brown Ave and Tenth St in Cookeville, TN. There’s two lights right after each other with enough space to barely fit a car.
That's similar to the intersection of 9th Avenue and Collyer Street in Longmont, Colorado.
When you have a idea in cities skylines and distracted halfway through 😂😂
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As soon as you said roundabout, I knew immediately this idea will never be picked up because of America's apparent phobia for them.
Less phobia, moreso our driving instruction and certification is really lax. Driving related taxes and charges bring a lot of money into the government, so they instead choose to pay the lesser cost of working on expanding roads than anything else of the variety. More cars, more lanes, more money.
Depends on the city. One lane roundabouts are easy and you really have to be a moron to mess it up. The 2 lane ones are the ones that trip me up.
I stick to the outer ring, I don't get the point of the inner ring. I've had many cars just switch from inner to outer rings without looking or singaling at all. The one showed here had partial outer rings, I've only seen complete 2 rings and have had many luxury car drivers try to take out my front corner panel
Roundabouts are horrible.
@@maxprdctnsYou’re probably still learning and I understand that. We all start somewhere. Just don’t stop in the middle of the roundabout and you’ll know how to drive in a circle in no time. Go get em tiger.
@@maxprdctnsYES BRUTHER WE AMERICANS CANNOT DRIVE IN CIRCLES THATS COMMUNIST EUROPEAN PROPOGANDA!!!!
AN INCREASED CRASH RATE AND SLOWER TRAFFIC IS ALL WHAT WE ARE ABOUT 🇺🇲🇺🇲🦅🚘💥🚗
My first thought after hearing about left turning traffic was "why isn't this a roundabout?"
Thats stupid cause colorado is not flat
@@AMPProfwhat?