I worked in startup in beginning of my career, G is absolutely correct when he said there is no line between application engineer and platform engineer. I have done projects of both category.😄
@Gaurav Sen - If a candidate performs very good in system design interview but not much in coding interview, which role typically he or she will be offered?
Gaurav bro, I have lost complete motivation in coding due to advancement in AI and real threat to software engineering jobs chatGPT 4? What do you think 😢
Very relevant at this scenario... Plz make video for freelancers also, how to achieve more relevant skills, more efficient code & project management skills, all other smal ,but crucial skills
Great content, thanks! Need some more info about Machine Learning, Deep Learning, Computer Vision, Data Science stuff. How do they fit into the picture....
@Gaurav Sen thanks for your reply! This is the first time I got a reply from a content creator! Btw, what I meant is.... Let's say Google Photos is built by software engineers. But recently, Google photos automatically recognizes different persons uniquely by machine learning or deep learning, etc. My ques is ... 1. how is this machine learning stuff integrated into traditional software backend? Do backend software engineers need to learn machine learning to integrate it? 2. Do machine learning engineers also need to learn problem solving?
@@abidtaqi3842 1. There is some (superficial) knowledge needed for both types of engineers to understand each other's requirements. The backend engineers gather requirements from the ML team and start persisting data accordingly. When a team scales, a specialised data engineering team takes over and bridges the data from backend services to the ML services. (I have a chapter on InterviewReady explaining this in more detail: interviewready.io/learn/system-design-course/workflow_management_system/converting_data_sources_to_a_lake ) 2. They are expected to solve problems, yes. Algorithms, data structures, math constructs, etc... help do that.
for me, real junior-mid level software engineer is one who can do anything or work on any tech. A niche is important as u gain experience and become senior.
Gaurav sorry if its a stupid queston but do you think with the insane leaps and bunds with which AI is advancing , front end and backend roles will still remain evergreen .I just saw GPT 4 write thhe full python code to create a small fully functional ping pong game . What are your thoughts on this ?
It is a bit concerning, hahaha. Entrepreneurs can now generate code faster than ever. Most "simple" apps can be created easily now, which means building an MVP should get even easier.
You did not mention who gets paid the most??, Could you give a list of these in decreasing order of average pay? 1 list for entry levels, and other for 5+years exp levels for general overview. I would like to know if there are any major differences in the order of any list when considering opportunities between USA & India
System engineers tend to get paid more (2-3x of app). Platform is around 1.5x of app engg. As for type of engineering, it's hard to say. It depends a lot on the needs of the organisation and what their standard engineering salary is. Roughly, all engineers get paid the same. Sometimes, due to an engineer being a specialist, they are paid a little lesser (market does not have many options for them)
Can you also please comment on how these roles will be impacted by the latest tech like chatGPT (V 4.0 is on the way and things are moving pretty fast in the AI field).
You said the system engineer role is bigger than platform or application engineer and the pay is also good. But 😂 after 1-2 years you can become system engineer in TCS, and still the pay is not much.
Same question came to my mind. I think at TCS or similar service MNCs, the System Engineer name means different. I was a System Engineer at TCS and now promoted to IT Analyst. Still no idea what these terms mean. @Gaurav can you please comment on these roles of service MNCs too or maybe another video. I am sure many like us would find that very useful.
The system engineer at TCS is incorrectly named, in my opinion. In my opinion, "support engineer" would be more suited to the job responsibilities. Doesn't sound as exciting though :p
Where are the Software Firmware Engineers Systems Software Engineers Embedded software Engineers Physics Engineer for games GameEngine developers Network engineer
Never mention the Network engineer 😮 if the network did work nothing will work!!😂
Oh damn, sorry I missed this!
absolutely!
@@gkcs lol says a lot about the thankless nature of the role. but thats fine, not your fault.
@@nikhilnanal4384 Backend engineers: We don't get credit for our work.
Network Engineers: ...
Thank u so much for this video, as a colege student really finding it tought to decide my specialization , this was very helpful .
Glad it was helpful!
I learned alot in this video. It gives clarity on what one should consider among many roles before applying their own interest. Indeed great video 🙌
Thank you!
I worked in startup in beginning of my career, G is absolutely correct when he said there is no line between application engineer and platform engineer. I have done projects of both category.😄
Thanks for sharing the experience 😁
Very good video for newbies like me it is overwhelming , this video do gave me a good clarity on where should I go
Awesome!
Thank you for putting this, I am thinking to take my carrer to the next level. this video is very beneficial for me right now.
You got this!
No need for vehemently disagree,such a nice informative video, thanks man ✨
Thanks Warrior!
@Gaurav Sen - If a candidate performs very good in system design interview but not much in coding interview, which role typically he or she will be offered?
Gaurav bro, I have lost complete motivation in coding due to advancement in AI and real threat to software engineering jobs chatGPT 4? What do you think 😢
Very relevant at this scenario... Plz make video for freelancers also, how to achieve more relevant skills, more efficient code & project management skills, all other smal ,but crucial skills
I am on the way to making one, thank you!
Great content, thanks!
Need some more info about Machine Learning, Deep Learning, Computer Vision, Data Science stuff. How do they fit into the picture....
Thanks!
Could you explain your question in more detail?
@Gaurav Sen thanks for your reply! This is the first time I got a reply from a content creator!
Btw, what I meant is....
Let's say Google Photos is built by software engineers. But recently, Google photos automatically recognizes different persons uniquely by machine learning or deep learning, etc. My ques is ...
1. how is this machine learning stuff integrated into traditional software backend? Do backend software engineers need to learn machine learning to integrate it?
2. Do machine learning engineers also need to learn problem solving?
@@abidtaqi3842
1. There is some (superficial) knowledge needed for both types of engineers to understand each other's requirements. The backend engineers gather requirements from the ML team and start persisting data accordingly.
When a team scales, a specialised data engineering team takes over and bridges the data from backend services to the ML services. (I have a chapter on InterviewReady explaining this in more detail: interviewready.io/learn/system-design-course/workflow_management_system/converting_data_sources_to_a_lake )
2. They are expected to solve problems, yes. Algorithms, data structures, math constructs, etc... help do that.
@@gkcs Thanks a lot!
Thank you so much for making this video. It's beneficial and provides a lot of clarity. Appreciate your efforts, sir❤
Thank you!
Thank you very much for such a clear and simple explanation.
You are welcome!
Thanks a lot for sharing your experience.
Thank you for watching 😁
so helpful. Wish I saw this 2 years ago.
for me, real junior-mid level software engineer is one who can do anything or work on any tech. A niche is important as u gain experience and become senior.
Some flexibility is great, yes.
15-20 years ago we were just programers or developers. These days everyone is engineer 😄
Hahaha...you were engineers. You just weren't called engineers 😛
Hi sir , Whats your opinion on blockchain engineers ?? Would be great if you could make a video on that
Great stuff Gaurav. Maybe you missed cloud engineers?
Yes I did, sorry!
Network, Cloud and Security engineers!
What about driver level engineers ? Where they land up ?
Well explained
Thank you :D
Gaurav sorry if its a stupid queston but do you think with the insane leaps and bunds with which AI is advancing , front end and backend roles will still remain evergreen .I just saw GPT 4 write thhe full python code to create a small fully functional ping pong game . What are your thoughts on this ?
It is a bit concerning, hahaha.
Entrepreneurs can now generate code faster than ever. Most "simple" apps can be created easily now, which means building an MVP should get even easier.
You did not mention who gets paid the most??, Could you give a list of these in decreasing order of average pay? 1 list for entry levels, and other for 5+years exp levels for general overview.
I would like to know if there are any major differences in the order of any list when considering opportunities between USA & India
System engineers tend to get paid more (2-3x of app). Platform is around 1.5x of app engg.
As for type of engineering, it's hard to say. It depends a lot on the needs of the organisation and what their standard engineering salary is.
Roughly, all engineers get paid the same. Sometimes, due to an engineer being a specialist, they are paid a little lesser (market does not have many options for them)
Hi Gaurav,
Does kernel Engineer come under System Engineer ?
Almost always, yes.
@@gkcs Thanks great video !
and what about core, critical and etc infrastructure roles?
Those fit/overlap within the ones he mentions.
What's with the formal Indian attire, looks quiet stunning and frankly reminiscent of my high school professor XD
I think it was shot on republic day 😁
Can you also please comment on how these roles will be impacted by the latest tech like chatGPT (V 4.0 is on the way and things are moving pretty fast in the AI field).
Good one
Thank you! Cheers!
Can a person move from devops to full stack developer(Frontend+Backend). If so what are the possibilities?
Gradually push into backend projects after speaking with your team lead or manager.
@@gkcs is there a way that I can do a self paced learning my self
@@starsassy5435 Freelance projects and open source is also an option.
What is different between software engineer and application engineer
Application engineer is a type of software engineer.
What about Cloud Engineer/Cloud Architect
Backend + network + DevOps.
There are ETL developers and microservices developer please discuss
That will be data engineer and backend engineer respectively. Please watch those segments of the video 😁
You said the system engineer role is bigger than platform or application engineer and the pay is also good.
But 😂 after 1-2 years you can become system engineer in TCS, and still the pay is not much.
Same question came to my mind. I think at TCS or similar service MNCs, the System Engineer name means different. I was a System Engineer at TCS and now promoted to IT Analyst. Still no idea what these terms mean.
@Gaurav can you please comment on these roles of service MNCs too or maybe another video. I am sure many like us would find that very useful.
The system engineer at TCS is incorrectly named, in my opinion. In my opinion, "support engineer" would be more suited to the job responsibilities.
Doesn't sound as exciting though :p
What about full stack system engineer
Difficult, but possible. You probably will write components specific to one side though.
security pps are missing!
Yes I missed that, sorry!
SRE ?
DevOps usually handle this, but you can have a specialised SRE team too.
What about web3/ blockchain developer ?
Give him a pen and a whiteboard, and he'll decode anything 🥵
Hehehe ☺️
Where are the
Software Firmware Engineers
Systems Software Engineers
Embedded software Engineers
Physics Engineer for games
GameEngine developers
Network engineer
And before systems engineer comes the system software engineer. We make dead hardware useful for all kind of software engineers and their clients 😂😂😂😂
Ah yes, the OS folks 😁😛