Ray Daniels Speaks on the Fall Off of Atlanta's Music Scene
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- Опубликовано: 9 сен 2024
- Ray Daniels discusses the decline of Atlanta's once-dominant music scene and the factors contributing to it's fall off.
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ATL has always had appreciable numbers, but as far as socioeconomics is concerned, there is no notable BLACK OWNERSHIP in ATL whatsoever.
If we have no industrial foothold in ANY urban city, then the use of the words "we got" is misleading.
@@puzzle247365 FACTS 💯
I respect Atlanta, its rich history, and everything they've produced. With that being said: Saying that if Atlanta ever falls off it will have a massive impact on the direction of black culture is a reach.
It would, though. The same way the culture shifted when things left NYC, would happen if the focus was no longer on Atlanta. What they're currently broadcasting to the world, unintentionally, is that this is where we WANT everyone to look at as what represents the culture to the masses and considering Atlanta's trap scene/sound has been its most prominent aspect for the last decade that just ain't it no more (no pun intended lol). If it weren't the hottest scene in the business whichever scene became the new focus would also have the most direct influence on the youth movement.
THE BLACK CULTURE IS BIGGER THAN ONE MID-SIZED SOUTHERN CITY
I like when they have Ray On 🎒 ⛽️ always good conversation
Atlanta not falling off.. but the sound getting watered down because it’s a universal sound now.. we need to talk more about Memphis more they lowkey got it
@@chrispbacon1167 brah I’m wit u
Memphis rappers got some of that old Memphis sound also..i think if Atlanta rappers get some of that old Atlanta sound back in it, they will ok.. thats why the women rappers song hit in the club better because it has that certain bounce to it and chant type hooks
Yup
SORRY BRO ATL FELL OFF
Black culture survived before Atlanta it will survive without Atlanta. Blackness is great than any one city, state or country
@@mcmisery high level statement king 🫡
Well said
If that was the case! East, west coast niggas wouldn't be moving down South! And add the Midwest too! Y'all Negroes can't survive in them other region, so y'all running down South! The new wakanda! New Africa! New black land!
Wrong he talking in modern times not historically.
🧢!
Ppl from Atlanta that’s born there don’t do anything for Atlanta but complain they want the old Atlanta back ..cuz ppl from everywhere else is building up Atlanta factz
na they complain about the clowns that coming to atlanta messing it up...I've even heard nyc dudes say they miss the old atlanta
What are they building up?
@@rooski4049 GAY CLUBS
@@rongee7337 😂
Atlanta has too many different flavors coming out of here to lose anything. If you look at the trajectory over the last 20 years, no Atlanta Artists that became a superstar sounded like the next. Something is always going on here that the rest of the country finds out about like 2 to 3 years later. It’s been that way.
I hate how we talk like atl is wakanda lol. I remember how police did those brothers in 2020…
Black folks don't own no Atlanta the richest neighborhood in Atlanta has barely no black people in tuxedo park
Cap
@@corieydadon do you live in tuxedo park??
Atlanta ain’t fall off it’s just the spot light is moving away from them. I think eventually it will go thru an offseason like all the other major cities did
SORRY BRO ATL FELL OFF
Atlanta was in trouble when the RICO case got a lot of them lol
He sounds crazy cause if you study BLK American history, our culture goes wherever it can flourish, that's why our footprints are all over the country
It was NYC/the North before Atlanta, and it will be another place after, people need to study their own history before speaking
The Midwest and LA got it culturally
My thing is when ray referring to the culture wat we really talking about??? Entertainment??? That's the problem rite there that's wats wrong wit us respectfully
Atlanta is good hands as long as Pluto is still around
Atlanta can have Atlanta
Making all that trash music caught up to them… it was bound to happen sooner or later….. 🤷🏽♂️
THANK YOU BRO!
Well I guess we need to find other things to do besides rap and degrade our own ppl while making a profit. Make it make sense. It’s becoming corporate for a reason. Atlanta had its run just like any other place. That light is slowly starting to diminish that’s all. Doesn’t mean it’s going out .
We need a change, Its long overdue.
What bro said is facts
Ray is that guy 💯
I agree to a certain point Atlanta definitely Is too influential with black culture to want It to fall
Blame da internet n tic tok plus that huge RICO case on thug but no new stars ANYWHERE BEING MADE shiddd it’s touching da whole industry plus hip hop oversaturated baddd
Detroit pullin the spotlight away!
Lil baby was the last real true superstar out of Atlanta..
The thing is ppl have opinions of atl n don’t live here. Black atl looks good on tv but black ownership is still small and it’s starting to show bc gentrification is pushing everybody out.
@@Tatee101 FACTS 💯
Zesty Atlanta brothas in the comments acting hella sassy 😂 Calm yall sugary tank azzez Down !!! 🤣😂
Nonsense
EVERYONE KNOW'S ATLANTA FELL OFF EXCEPT ATLANTA😂
Atlanta music scene has one thing going against it. That’s influence from non southerners. Atlanta was a place where the south came together to have a voice these kids dropped the ball in order to be accepted and for hopes of record sales. Back in the days being different and real was natural. But they let the industry come down here and take our sound. In order for Atlanta to stay on top we got to look at other cities in Ga, Ala, etc and give the a voice.
A brand cant fall off
I think the spot light is gonna move from Atlanta back to the west coast
How Atlanta don't have no superstars when future & 21 savage still running the game
Future and 21 savage ain’t superstars
@@therealmojotv yes they are dawg future is number 18 on Spotify in da world
@@Mikejones-zg6xg gunna and lil baby
@@Mikejones-zg6xg baby did da World Cup da WORLD CUP
They’re not superstars lol
If atlanta not running the rap game what city is then detroit memphis ?
They tryna speak it into existence. They lost a follower with this one. This man is not even from Atlanta, he is an implant as well
Atlanta goes black culture follows ? ..
Harlem, Detroit m Philly .. ... PHILLY has had more SOUL (BLACK) Impact than ATL .. even back to 70s .. ATL was trap, booty music ..
what soul artist do you think of when you think of ATL .. Monica isn't Patti labelle or JILL SCOTT, & NO production team is more soulful than GAMBLE & HUFF ... ATL .. needs ANDREW YOUNG again .. MORAL DECLINE DESTROYED ATL .. LIBERAL ARTS divine 9, same as Ancient Rome & Ancient Greece, ROOTS of LIBERAL ARTS .. ATL fell from moral decline
Well spoken !!!
Nobody running to ATL for Lotto who was born in Ohio 😂
He lost me at "where ATL goes, black culture follows" 🤦🏾♂️
Once ATL lost P Giaccio they lost their Honor
i believe that the mainstream aspect of atlanta is getting lazy, from priotizing sections in clubs to whatever else people feels a certain part of the black culture lost. atlanta has something for everybody but i feel in the mainstream sense, atlanta has gotten to be a big get the bag environment and a lack of pure creativity and intuitiveness. that's only in the mainstream sense though
I totally disagree with his ATL take but to each his own
I'm curious. Please expound.
@@thegodblogger3812 the illusion that “black people run Atlanta” when they don’t. They have a stranglehold on the word “culture” but the income disparity is INSANE in Atlanta. It’s the ugly piece of furniture no one wants to talk about because of 1. Rap, 2. Strip clubs, 3. Clubs, & 4. Celebrities all summing up to “Culture.”
“The Atlanta Wealth Building Initiative has found that white Atlanta families have a median household income of $83,722-three times higher than Black families’ median income of $28,105. When looking at total wealth, the gap widens enormously. White Atlanta households have a staggering 46 times more wealth than Black households-$238,355 for white families, compared to just $5,180 for Black ones.”
1/17/24.
The boom in entrepreneurship in ATL has led to a bunch of folks faking the funk and struggling with debt. But I guess they can always say “I don’t have boss” so it evens out.
The median house in ATL (1/4/24 - Neilsberg Research):
- $124k white
- $49, 526 black
My point is Atlanta could fall tomorrow and it wouldn’t hurt anything besides the ego of Atliens who hang their hat on the word “culture.” All in my humble opinion.
@@thegodblogger3812I wrote a long response. Idk if RUclips/Google has me blocked or suspended in case it doesn’t show.
@@TeezyfolKKz Yeah, they do that a lot, but very inconsistently.
@@thegodblogger3812 no profane language. No links. Just cited paragraphs with supporting data. It’s weird I think the app doesn’t promote discussion as such.
Lil Baby got it on smash
Ray IS NOT FROM ATLANTA. Dude was 12 when he got there. Don’t even sound like it. Big mouth always trying to speak for the A. ATL is NOT all black/not inviting to all blacks and the culture will not die if Atlanta goes on chill
Can’t even say it right
Atlannuh not Atlanta
Folks' tastes change and they eventually move on. Atlanta has been in charge for 20+ years. Falling off is inevitable, fellas. Atlanta created and dictated what was hot, musically and the world followed. Nah, I kinda go for what I know and listen to music from my generation (primarily '90s), but if I'm not mistaken, I believe Texas is kinda ruling the airwaves. --> Or even that "drill" stuff that folks like to consume.
I knew Atlanta was in trouble when even future and metro are having issues with their tour. They are two of the biggest names in ATL right now.
They tour selling out every city how is that issues ?
@@Ayyeeeooo they got issues with ticket sales, they had to put them for sale.
YEEERRR...🫡
get over yourself hip hop has touched many regions and it will touch more. Atlanta is no the mecca you think it is
Atlanta need to be more welcoming if they want all blacks United there to help defend it
@@kinghaj747 dawg ATL gas da whole south smh where u from
@@kinghaj747 u pro an immigrant
I just looked at the hip hop charts … if Atlanta is falling off hip hop must fell off bc the charts is full of Future, Lil Baby, Gunna, 21 Savage, Latto, then you got Karraboo, Anycia …. Ok if Atlanta fell off what region is doing better ?! 😂😂😂
MEMPHIS CHICAGO LA HOUSTON ST LOUIS LA NYC 😂😂
DETROIT
He in denial 😂😂
Free YSL
Thought Guru reincarnated 👀🤷🏾♂️🤣✌🏾
No super star what about future
😂YOU'RE KIDDING RIGHT?
Yall funny😂😂😂😂😂
ATLANTA GOT TV SHOWS RADIO SHOWS MOVIES NEW RAPPERS NEW PRODUCERS ETC!!! YALL FUNNY😅😅😅
😂 Y'all Zesty ASF lmao stop getting butt hurt in the comments all sassy and shit .
404!
The culture has already lost y'all Gatekeepers and Vultures sold it out!
I disagree you bugging
Black Excellence
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If The ATL falls black culture will too yeah okay 😂😂😂😂😂but that's where he spent most of his time after he left here in NY honestly he is entitled to his opinion
u in NY yall don’t understand ITS BLACK MECCA DUDE
Data why Dey music was popping so long smh a lot black people
NY AINT A NIGGA STATE
@purrfitazitgetz3365 right we here in new york don't understand what a black mecca means when hip-hop culture & Battle rap that everybody in the world is doing now are both birthed here anyway I get he loves down there make sense he was born here & grew up down there understandable but too say black culture will fall apart because The A doesn't exist is a reach 😅
shidd yall NY think Drake beat Kendrick womp womp and u missed what he was saying by ATLANTA is run by BLACK FOLKS SO OF COURSE Dey have culture dat represents a lot Black folks in da south.
NY ain’t a nigga state that reps blk culture
@@BklynZu we know it’s from NY but again what is the dominate sound right now ? It’s music from da south ATL specifically and in 2018 hip hip became da number 1 genre in music in da world on ATL SOUND not NY sound
Trap is the most influential rap music right dats why music ALL SOUNDS da same
Atlanta still got the biggest artist ever.. no other place can fuck with Future or Playboi Carti
NY wants dem to
Remember when NY had Jay Z and 50 cent... same arc is coming lol
@@dtc875650 had a short run Future like 15 years in and still hot as ever in the game
We all black who tf cares.. what’s wrong with the culture is ppl keep tryna bringing up stupid talking points that don’t benefit us or the culture. STOP TRYNA DEVIDE US..WHO CARES ABOUT WHAT ARTIST CAME FROM WHAT CITY N WHAT CITY HAD THE LOGEST RUN … it’s all moronic if you ask me
@@Thewstend where u from because where u from is ur identity
New York hating on Atlanta
Forever
New York be praying on Atlanta downfall nobody never said Atlanta fell off new York is jealous & it's sad
@@Mikejones-zg6xg thisssss
No. I was in Atlanta two days ago. The only NY artist the played was one JayZ song.
@@djgreenhornet2892 new NY rap isn't national bro. They don't get played outside of NY. That's not hate it's just radio is based on popularity
ITS CHEAP TO DO ANYTHING DOWN SOUTH YOU CANT COMPARE ATLANTA TO NYC THR CULTURE COMES FROM
NEW NO MATTER HOW YOU PUT IT YOU CANT DO ATLANTA SHIT IN NYC TOU WILL BE HOMELESS AMD BROKE BUT YOU CAN GO TO ATLANTA AND DO NYC SHIT I NEVER LOOKED AT ATLANTA AS THE CULTURE