It's not bugged, they just designed it badly. It's mana consumption is per pierce used, so degree 100 wich has so much more pierce, and a lot of bloons on screen, it just drains it's mana
Ever since paragons were added, my favorite was always the glave dominus, even tho it was the worst paragon by a lot, I was still proud to call it my favorite. Now I look at the glow-up it's had with the dozens of buffs and am glad to have believed in its potential from the beginning lol
@@CometCook boat isnt S tier because of it's restriction to water. if you could place it on land it'd be an easy S tier but i think placing it in A is fair due to it being a water tower.
I still think that the dart paragon is the goat beginner paragon. Just put out two x-x-5 dart monkeys. Summon Paragon and he got a decent level. Perfect for beginner! But from your point of view (the way you explained it) its a good list, regardless! All points are valid.
@@m4rcyonstation93 no, it doesn't mean it was good. It means it was a good choice for a beginner when the alternative was the Navarch that I couldn't even get out on the beginner maps I did late game on
The reason why the Magus Perfectus is so bad for its price is probably because with the scaling of attack speed and pierce of the degrees and not changing the amount of mana drained for every hit, making it not scale that well with the degrees because you have to use the horrible laser attack constantly to get that mana back for it to only be completely drained again after a few seconds.
I'd just say that boat is better than engi, specifically for the BAD instakill as it's tremendously good on super freeplay, and I think it outclasses a bit the easy instakilling of middle bosses. And they should buff dart paragon, it used to be way better than boomer, but after that many buffs it got shredded.
Dart is the most begginer tower as it gets, meaning boomerang should really be stronger, and honestly, the gap isnt too big, only like 30% difference( not gonna too deep with the maths).
@@BigManAtta I said it was, but seeing boomer being more support style (knockback and buff) it should probably have lower dps as dart is a pure dps tower. I agree it shouldn't be a giant gap.
Id like to add from me one thing about this tier list that was ignored/overlooked. The popping potential of non-paragon upgrades. - dart monkey is kinda average. Both crossbows are by far the way to go. PMFC is also great but has cd so its not reliable. Ultra jug is kinda meh and on certain maps only average as well. Considering the fact dart monkey can place two t5s this Tower either needs less geraldo totems for tier 100 or less pops. Thats why its not that bad. - boomer is by far the hardest Tower to get 16kk pops for tier 100. I see that this Tower already is low and probably this fact was considered while rating this Tower. Boomer is useful and really great paragon for lower tiers. For higher tiers its potential lowers comparing to other paragons. The main problem with this Tower is that all of t5s are just bad at popping bloons in the late game. Only xx5 boomer is dealing damage consistently, but this damage is not great. Turbo charge is by far really bad in the late game and glaive lord is... glaive lord. - boat paragon - this Tower needs space. Water space. This is the most dificult thing to keep in mind about that. About popping Power this Tower is bad after 100 at tier 5s. I love trade empire but you need so many rounds farmed with full 20 boats potential to get t100 paragon. And if you dont have enough space its extremely dificult to give popping potential for 5xx. Pirate lord is a bit easier because its ability deals more damage the later rounds there are. - ninja paragon is kinda hard to get early. By far the easiest way to get 16 milion pops for this Tower is via ability. On later rounds this ability deals milions of damage. Keeping that in mind its really hard to get max degree paragon earlier. - engie paragon - in my opinion the easiest paragon to get 100 degree. Considering the fact we can consistently using XXL trap to deal milions of damage later on is great. Also overclock abiliy is kinda expensive so it is relatively easy on more cramped maps while trying to get 100 tier paragon on engie. - Ace paragon - second easiest paragon to get 100 tier in game. Xx5 Ace is anihilating early game without any problems. Later rounds too. Its very strong potential is very easy to micro, hard to lose control and simple at getting degree 100. Keep in mind spectre is also kinda expensive but this Tower also requires some space to place down additional towers to get this degree. - wizard paragon - this Tower is also second hardest paragon to level up. Wizard monkey is great for normal gameplay but in terms of freeplay its popping potential falls down drastically. Its very dificult to get 16kk pops for this Tower. Requires so much time to get this amount and this Tower loses control of the later rounds easily no matter if you use archmage, Phoenix lord or POD. Overall with ratings I agree with everything but its a shame that this thing wasnt mentioned in the video.
@dustyplayz5412 comparing to other paragons, those two upgrades are still rather worse than better. Geraldo fire isnt that strong in the late game. 16 milion pops isnt that easy to get.
@@froglord9213 tell that to p lord that deals hundreds of thousands damage per ability after r140, or t5 sabo on ninja that deals similar numbers due to 25% constant damage on bloons spawned. Or XXL trap that in few rounds after 140 can deal ~10 milion damage. Perma charge rarely beats milion of the damage in 5 rounds. Even big plane is better and dont forget we also can use sky shredder too. Both crossbows can deal more damage than perma charge, because it scales better due to crits they deal. And dont forget pmfc that can deal quarter milion dmg per ability on all 20 darts. Only wizard can be worse of the Tower at farming pops. I just dont buy turbo charge`s strength as a tier 4. Its super annoying pressing 50 abilities that deals ~5k damage each. Perma charge is like 10× better but it still is worse than most t5 upgrades required for paragons. Even sentry champion fully buffed can deal with r200 by himself and can get milions of pops while buffing him into oblivion. I agree, I overestimated wizard and him probably is the hardest Tower to farm pops (because how else?), but boomer is not single handedly much better.
Most of the pop issues are cuz wizard and some other paragons dont have much hax abilities too, ninja has the starting damage, boat has instakill zomgs or below, engineer has the traps, big plane has big nuke, but wizard, boomer, and dart monkeys don’t have much aoe that does good dmg
Fun fact: the mega sentries that the engineer paragon makes, is not classified as a tier 5 or above unite (I think) so the mega sentries is door gunner usable, I recommend getting a 2-5-0 chinook and the red mega sentry which is a deadly combo
I agree and have nothing to complain. I know you are the Engineer Paragon Master in Boss events but it's not my first choice due to too much micro. The Ace Paragon is by far the best and it feels so good to have one with 50+ degree against Tier 5 Elite Boss.
I ranked them a little bit differently, but here is my list in case anyone is interested: Dart- Weak Boomerang- Balanced Ninja- Overpowered Buccaneer- Overpowered Ace- Balanced Engineer- Weak Wizard- Unrankable (due to Phoenix attack speed bug), but leaning towards Overpowered (Note: My list is heavily based on single paragon tests, and I didn’t factor in boss gameplay or pop counts when multiple paragons are used. With that in mind, I’d say your list is better, but I think the Engineer paragon is too weak. Its sentries should be buffable by its overclock, and its red sentry should be able to pop purples.)
I claim engie is balanced. Mostly because engies damage by itself isnt that strong but sell damage is what makes this Tower strong. Engie is the only Tower in the game that can one shot many tiers of bosses. In terms of damage engie is lacking that but in terms of utility this paragon shines the most. FYI, you have to remember engies strength is increasing every round since it is placed up to 60 rounds (10% faster attack rate up to 600%).
I totaly agree agree engineer is trash, the 60 rounds is bad in almost all moments, if u need to choose 4 paragons to bosses he is not in the list, because the x600% speed is the only good and you probably put him in round 110 -+
If you think about it, the Vengeful Sun God was technically the first paragon to exist, as it requires all three tier 5 super monkeys and requires a LOT of money to get.
As a more casual player, I'd say that the engi paragon is by far my least favorite. Its just really lame in execution and there's really nothing all that special about it besides the sentry explosion micro. Also, please NK, for the love of god add lock targeting on the plasma accelerator sentry
I think if they decrease wizzard price by 10% it would by A. ( as a side note the wizard really shines if you get a support pargon to help it and use the one fire ablity and put it strong it melts any boss)
Navarch of the Sea do be werid to say Overall the Tierlist is 90% accurate to my own opinions the only thing I don´t fully agree with is the Boomerang beeing listed as a C tier the Exploding glave beeing able to somewhat dmg past the Vortex shield is a very nice feature for most players and the Primary buff I feel like is something that has a way higher potential than really looked into But besides that miniscule change the Tierlist is Perfect in my opinion
@@lightingmc5538 it just instakills zomgs which were going to be permastalled anyway. Also instakilling 2 bads is barely anything when there's 20+ of them each round
nah the goliath doomship is better for freeplay, it is top 3 towers for BAD dps alongside VTSG and sentry champion (unless you count dps temples), and the BAD instakill only works 2x in a round, which has very little impact since most ppl techbot it so it is used early on, raw BAD Dps is the only thing that matters in freeplay when everything gets permastalled, and the ninjagon utility + VTSG + ace paragon + sentry champion is by far the best for BAD Dps
My opinion, 1)Navarch of the seas 2)gooliath doomship 3)ascended shadow (2nd if going super lategame) 4)magus perfectus (with proper degree) 5)master builder (600% overcloked) 6)glaive dominus 7)apex plasma master (5th in a good map)
For simplicity of use Dart paragon deserves at least C rating as the easiest and cheapest level 30 paragon to get against bosses, tiers 2 and 3. Navarch is not hampered by lack of water as you can put down pools (I'm mainly talking late game runs where using various powers is standard) and should rank second if not first.
Lategame is irrelevant. Using large amounts of pools to get a decent degree boat is not viable and why would you do so when you can use the far better ace paragon
These days I feel like boat paragon is b tier. Killing 2 bad BLOONS really isn’t that much lategame, instant killing non bads has little to no value at all in the hyper late game meta, but most importantly, it’s near universally outclassed in bosses.
I have a question, what were the mods you had to use boss bloons in sandbox and how could i install it myself (safely). i want to do a bit of testing like that myself
Dart monkey should’ve gotten low C. Sure it’s the worst paragon, but it’s easy D30 potential for early game bosses should give it low C tier. Still worse than the boomerang, but still C tier.
guys i got 8,4m with 5% abilitys rate but if had more monkey knolegg i would have goten more and if i did some other thing and also this was on logs hero ben and i did it with no mods / hakes
Right now, I'd put dart in B right below ninja. Its cost got a massive nerf recently and now it's only 150k. Also, with some monkey knowledge it's very easy to get moderately high degrees, and its incredibly low cost makes it perfect for 3rd, and sometimes 4th and 2nd teir bosses depending on the event. In my opinion it is the most versatile paragon. That being said it is still in fact pretty much a worse boomer paragon, and I agree with all of the other placements on this tier list 100% :D
Wish the engineer paragon utilized the other two paths better. To me it just seems like a super buffed top path engineer.. the paragon doesn’t incorporate the trap (bottom path) or buffs to other towers (middle path).
My only complaint is the increased focus on micro with recent paragons. I feel like the master builder was fine with the sentries (though I would have loved it to have an upgraded XXXL trap somehow) but I don’t like how they went about things for magus Perfectus or the Nautic siege core.
In my opinion dart is definitely at least C tier because it’s just so cheap and easy to get for the first 3-4 elite boss tiers and can easily solo all tiers of normal.
It’s good, it’s just that it’s in the same position boomer used to be in. It’s good, but it has no place being used when the other paragons can fill all the niches
My favorite paragon is the Goliath doomship. Personally, I don’t have it but it looks really cool and powerful. In my opinion, it’s only downside is it’s price. But it’s worth it.🛩️🛩️
boomer having a support passive ability makes no sense and it’s a little awkward. i think giving it to the dart paragon would make more sense as middle path dart is about granting dps to other towers and boomerang can get more raw dps buffs to compensate
the wizard paragon imo is the most balanced paragon in btd6. if your lazy then do not go for him in boss runs. But he’s pretty good in late game runs. although you have to use the abilities to get him to his most damage, he’s a pretty balanced paragon and you probably can’t decline it.
wizard is ultra ass late game. I did a cornfield no harvest run and I constantly microed wizard paragon and that thing got out damaged by all other paragons except for Boomer. now imagine not mircoing it. that thing is almost as garbage for late game as dart paragon is
@@Lt_Koro yea your right. for late game tho he’s pretty okay. jus like dart paragon. which is also why this paragon isn’t for people that don’t want to micro any abilities.
@@Lt_Korot should be good, but it has am issue currently that it uses mana per each pierce used. So high degrees with a lot of bloons loses al it's mana and have to rely like 90% of the time on the trash refill beam. And for that reason it isn't balanced currently.
Its not balanced. It should be cheaper. It is micro heavy to get its full potential. To be close to worst paragons in terms of damage potential. Honestly i like this Tower For its design but i do claim that most of the paragons are just too cheap And this Tower yet too expensive in this game. Considering also the fact that seperated t5s are also average, not expensive but not cheap either for wizard paragon.
For me, Magus Perfectus absolutely needs to be buffed to gain increased Graveyard capacity per level, because high levels just chew through their mana too fast
I will say the freeplay test wouldn't be a good representation of the plane's freeplay strength as most of the plane's missiles wouldn't be hitting as bloons would not be making it far enough into the track for it's 360 radius to be relevant
I know you made alot of bosses content, but this list is very bosses gamemode bias I think you should rename the vid to "ranking paragon against bosses"😂
I dont think dart deserves to be in the worst because since it was the first one the devs probably didnt know they would go to such heights with towers so they kept it lowkey
From freeplay testing using only the paragon to see the highest round it can reach alone, these are my results: 1: Boat, 2: Engi, 3: Ninja, 4: Wizard, 5: Boomerang, 6: Ace, 7: Sub, 8: Dart
My opinion is different, in seventh place I would put the wizard in 6, the dart in 5, the engineer in 4, the boomerang in 3, the ace in 2, the ninja in 1 and the boat in
I have a lot of disagreements, but my main one is that you don’t understand that a tower is worth more than just by itself. Navarch is better than ace because you can do Round 200 with Geraldo in just one rejuv. Also, micro should not need to be a factor. Micro isn’t too out of the way, so I think wizard should be A tier.
first: no one should ever use Geraldo for trying to reach high rounds. geraldo is terrible. not as terrible as like 90% of the rest of the heros but still terrible compared to the likes of Adora and Ezili. second: micro absolutly should be taken into account cuz wizard is horrible without it. 100% the worst paragon in the game without micro. well not actually cuz dart is still worse but that doesnt say much... its horrendous how bad wizard paragon is for late game
Even if it's incredibly strong, Engi is still the worst designed paragon. The Navarch and Glave Dominus are ironically better support paragons than the ACTUAL support paragon. It's also the ONLY paragon that doesn't incorporate all 3 paths.
If novices understood how good it was, they'd complain until it got the spike factory treatment. Having it seem bad to novices is a beautiful design whether that was intentional or not.
@@shawniesharko2710what novice? The tower that shoot fast after every round and only has the top path signatures? It has high dps, and thats it, its absolute garbage
I still think engi paragon is worse than others. just becaus it expensive, weird micro and when you start with it its bad. ofc after all overclock boost its better. but what i think egni that you put turret down and lets it shoot. its too weak and expensive for that. And wisard (i know i thinks its still some of broken becaus bugs or something) but that tower is make it for "you want i do something micro me" and that fine. But overall my very messy text in a nutshell. Engi is bad. But i agree with ace, i dont even micro it and i know its best (and i like it most how it looks like).
@@genio2509 i know its that becaus that instakill but other wise its some times just worse than bomerang becaus high cost and its not strong like boat. Boat is expensive than bomerang but it also better. And yes i think boat can go little higher becaus if you can get trade empire its easy way get higher degree and same time its your other rounds defense + money making.
Now I have not played balloons since Corvus came out like a month ago but when I last played I had a maxed (tier 76) engineer paragon on round 90 I also had a tier one boat paragon on round 120 the boat paragon had more than double the engineer paragons dmg. Plus is a little bit of water that rare?
The best Paragon tier list currently on the internet and it’s not even close
nah this is real
Navarch belongs into S though
@@UpdateFreak33navarch is overrated
Could be the best be enginner
@@rr37800underrated bro tier 1 Navarch outclasses other tier 100 paragons
from ISAB's video the wizard paragon mana consumption at high degrees is way too high, which means it's most likely bugged
It's not bugged, they just designed it badly.
It's mana consumption is per pierce used, so degree 100 wich has so much more pierce, and a lot of bloons on screen, it just drains it's mana
@@genio2509 I wonder whose idea making my boi wizard dirty.
It was fixed/changed in update 38.0 to consume 50 mana per attack not per pierce used.
I'm sure it ranks higher now.
Ever since paragons were added, my favorite was always the glave dominus, even tho it was the worst paragon by a lot, I was still proud to call it my favorite. Now I look at the glow-up it's had with the dozens of buffs and am glad to have believed in its potential from the beginning lol
me too but boat is easy S tier at same strength
Same
@@CometCook boat isnt S tier because of it's restriction to water. if you could place it on land it'd be an easy S tier but i think placing it in A is fair due to it being a water tower.
@@thejustlexa just play on a map with water lmao
@@Swarrrovski1337 just because you can choose to only play on maps with water doesnt mean that suddenly the boat should be S tier.
I still think that the dart paragon is the goat beginner paragon. Just put out two x-x-5 dart monkeys. Summon Paragon and he got a decent level. Perfect for beginner! But from your point of view (the way you explained it) its a good list, regardless! All points are valid.
degree 1 boomerang outdpses degree 30 dart as far as i know
@@alt2137pl it's probably better but I can say personally it was the second one I unlocked and it saw a lot of use in my super late game games
@@minotaur470 that doesnt mean it was good
@@m4rcyonstation93 no, it doesn't mean it was good. It means it was a good choice for a beginner when the alternative was the Navarch that I couldn't even get out on the beginner maps I did late game on
@@minotaur470 fair but now that boomerang is mostly just better
The reason why the Magus Perfectus is so bad for its price is probably because with the scaling of attack speed and pierce of the degrees and not changing the amount of mana drained for every hit, making it not scale that well with the degrees because you have to use the horrible laser attack constantly to get that mana back for it to only be completely drained again after a few seconds.
Good news for you, Magus got big buff in update 39. 🎉
Another good thing about the boat paragon is how the merchant boats both help you earn money for the paragon and pops for the level.
are boat paragon got buff by heroes boat?
Boat paragon is my favorite cuz its not that expensive and it oneshots everything
I'd just say that boat is better than engi, specifically for the BAD instakill as it's tremendously good on super freeplay, and I think it outclasses a bit the easy instakilling of middle bosses.
And they should buff dart paragon, it used to be way better than boomer, but after that many buffs it got shredded.
Dart is the most begginer tower as it gets, meaning boomerang should really be stronger, and honestly, the gap isnt too big, only like 30% difference( not gonna too deep with the maths).
@@BigManAtta I said it was, but seeing boomer being more support style (knockback and buff) it should probably have lower dps as dart is a pure dps tower. I agree it shouldn't be a giant gap.
I feel as if Engie would be better for bosses while Boat is better for free play. They don’t necessarily outclass each other it’s just the use cases
@@JustGoldy77 Yes, but I just think that boat is a bit better for freeplay than engi is for bosses
Freeplay is irrelevant
Id like to add from me one thing about this tier list that was ignored/overlooked. The popping potential of non-paragon upgrades.
- dart monkey is kinda average. Both crossbows are by far the way to go. PMFC is also great but has cd so its not reliable. Ultra jug is kinda meh and on certain maps only average as well. Considering the fact dart monkey can place two t5s this Tower either needs less geraldo totems for tier 100 or less pops. Thats why its not that bad.
- boomer is by far the hardest Tower to get 16kk pops for tier 100. I see that this Tower already is low and probably this fact was considered while rating this Tower. Boomer is useful and really great paragon for lower tiers. For higher tiers its potential lowers comparing to other paragons. The main problem with this Tower is that all of t5s are just bad at popping bloons in the late game. Only xx5 boomer is dealing damage consistently, but this damage is not great. Turbo charge is by far really bad in the late game and glaive lord is... glaive lord.
- boat paragon - this Tower needs space. Water space. This is the most dificult thing to keep in mind about that. About popping Power this Tower is bad after 100 at tier 5s. I love trade empire but you need so many rounds farmed with full 20 boats potential to get t100 paragon. And if you dont have enough space its extremely dificult to give popping potential for 5xx. Pirate lord is a bit easier because its ability deals more damage the later rounds there are.
- ninja paragon is kinda hard to get early. By far the easiest way to get 16 milion pops for this Tower is via ability. On later rounds this ability deals milions of damage. Keeping that in mind its really hard to get max degree paragon earlier.
- engie paragon - in my opinion the easiest paragon to get 100 degree. Considering the fact we can consistently using XXL trap to deal milions of damage later on is great. Also overclock abiliy is kinda expensive so it is relatively easy on more cramped maps while trying to get 100 tier paragon on engie.
- Ace paragon - second easiest paragon to get 100 tier in game. Xx5 Ace is anihilating early game without any problems. Later rounds too. Its very strong potential is very easy to micro, hard to lose control and simple at getting degree 100. Keep in mind spectre is also kinda expensive but this Tower also requires some space to place down additional towers to get this degree.
- wizard paragon - this Tower is also second hardest paragon to level up. Wizard monkey is great for normal gameplay but in terms of freeplay its popping potential falls down drastically. Its very dificult to get 16kk pops for this Tower. Requires so much time to get this amount and this Tower loses control of the later rounds easily no matter if you use archmage, Phoenix lord or POD.
Overall with ratings I agree with everything but its a shame that this thing wasnt mentioned in the video.
@dustyplayz5412 comparing to other paragons, those two upgrades are still rather worse than better. Geraldo fire isnt that strong in the late game. 16 milion pops isnt that easy to get.
P charge is one of the better towers for hyper late game
@@froglord9213 tell that to p lord that deals hundreds of thousands damage per ability after r140, or t5 sabo on ninja that deals similar numbers due to 25% constant damage on bloons spawned. Or XXL trap that in few rounds after 140 can deal ~10 milion damage. Perma charge rarely beats milion of the damage in 5 rounds. Even big plane is better and dont forget we also can use sky shredder too. Both crossbows can deal more damage than perma charge, because it scales better due to crits they deal. And dont forget pmfc that can deal quarter milion dmg per ability on all 20 darts. Only wizard can be worse of the Tower at farming pops.
I just dont buy turbo charge`s strength as a tier 4. Its super annoying pressing 50 abilities that deals ~5k damage each. Perma charge is like 10× better but it still is worse than most t5 upgrades required for paragons. Even sentry champion fully buffed can deal with r200 by himself and can get milions of pops while buffing him into oblivion.
I agree, I overestimated wizard and him probably is the hardest Tower to farm pops (because how else?), but boomer is not single handedly much better.
@@jakubmalinowski1474 i was just trying to say that boomer is much easier to get 16m pops than dart as one p charge gets many more pops than 2 xbms
Most of the pop issues are cuz wizard and some other paragons dont have much hax abilities too, ninja has the starting damage, boat has instakill zomgs or below, engineer has the traps, big plane has big nuke, but wizard, boomer, and dart monkeys don’t have much aoe that does good dmg
You do realize a kiddie pool in game is 50 bucks
Fun fact: the mega sentries that the engineer paragon makes, is not classified as a tier 5 or above unite (I think) so the mega sentries is door gunner usable, I recommend getting a 2-5-0 chinook and the red mega sentry which is a deadly combo
S: Ace
A: Engi, Boat
B: Ninja, Wizard
C: Boomerang
D: Dart
I agree and have nothing to complain. I know you are the Engineer Paragon Master in Boss events but it's not my first choice due to too much micro. The Ace Paragon is by far the best and it feels so good to have one with 50+ degree against Tier 5 Elite Boss.
I ranked them a little bit differently, but here is my list in case anyone is interested:
Dart- Weak
Boomerang- Balanced
Ninja- Overpowered
Buccaneer- Overpowered
Ace- Balanced
Engineer- Weak
Wizard- Unrankable (due to Phoenix attack speed bug), but leaning towards Overpowered
(Note: My list is heavily based on single paragon tests, and I didn’t factor in boss gameplay or pop counts when multiple paragons are used. With that in mind, I’d say your list is better, but I think the Engineer paragon is too weak. Its sentries should be buffable by its overclock, and its red sentry should be able to pop purples.)
I claim engie is balanced. Mostly because engies damage by itself isnt that strong but sell damage is what makes this Tower strong. Engie is the only Tower in the game that can one shot many tiers of bosses. In terms of damage engie is lacking that but in terms of utility this paragon shines the most.
FYI, you have to remember engies strength is increasing every round since it is placed up to 60 rounds (10% faster attack rate up to 600%).
Ace is better then every other paragon and it isn’t close, should be above navarch easiky
I totaly agree agree engineer is trash, the 60 rounds is bad in almost all moments, if u need to choose 4 paragons to bosses he is not in the list, because the x600% speed is the only good and you probably put him in round 110 -+
@@chiqui1329 engineer is great. Amazing for ranked bossing.
@@tacotown4598 in my opinión ninja, boat, plane and after the Buff magus perfectus are better
If you think about it, the Vengeful Sun God was technically the first paragon to exist, as it requires all three tier 5 super monkeys and requires a LOT of money to get.
8:25 is finished tier list
As a more casual player, I'd say that the engi paragon is by far my least favorite. Its just really lame in execution and there's really nothing all that special about it besides the sentry explosion micro. Also, please NK, for the love of god add lock targeting on the plasma accelerator sentry
I dont like to play it either, but its still one of the best unfortunatly
@@PunjiBTD6you twekin
W tier list
Yes
I think if they decrease wizzard price by 10% it would by A. ( as a side note the wizard really shines if you get a support pargon to help it and use the one fire ablity and put it strong it melts any boss)
Cool but here’s my tier list
Garbage tier: every single paragon
Top tier: Free Dart Monkey
a dart paragon in D tier and ninja in B tier is a crime
The boat and monkey ace are my two favorite towers in the game which is perfect.
Navarch of the Sea do be werid to say
Overall the Tierlist is 90% accurate to my own opinions the only thing I don´t fully agree with is the Boomerang beeing listed as a C tier the Exploding glave beeing able to somewhat dmg past the Vortex shield is a very nice feature for most players and the Primary buff I feel like is something that has a way higher potential than really looked into
But besides that miniscule change the Tierlist is Perfect in my opinion
yeah i thought maybe glaive dominus a bit underrated here
Bro got that Baden-Baden rizz
Was geht chef, wildes video
1:46 Most normal Punji run
6:57 “Lof” of people
Imo, navarch is best for freeplay but doomship is best for bosses.
Agree, that’s why I think the navarch is slightly better than the doom ship because I value free play a bit higher than boss runs.
it's the vtsg doing almost all the freeplay job though
@@alt2137pl Navarch has inf damage cuz grappling hooks, vtsg doesn't
@@alt2137pl Also most of the freeplay runs I do navarch wins in pop count over the VTSG.
@@lightingmc5538 it just instakills zomgs which were going to be permastalled anyway. Also instakilling 2 bads is barely anything when there's 20+ of them each round
S: Aircraft
A: Boat, Engineer
B: Ninja, Wizard
C: Boomerang
D: Dart
Honestly the boat paragon is the best paragon for just freeplay but because it’s map specific it can’t be the best
nah the goliath doomship is better for freeplay, it is top 3 towers for BAD dps alongside VTSG and sentry champion (unless you count dps temples), and the BAD instakill only works 2x in a round, which has very little impact since most ppl techbot it so it is used early on, raw BAD Dps is the only thing that matters in freeplay when everything gets permastalled, and the ninjagon utility + VTSG + ace paragon + sentry champion is by far the best for BAD Dps
Freeplay is irrelevant
@@ErsolP boss events:
@@ErsolP yeah, freeplay is irrelevant. Boss events are the primary use case for paragons and their best one by far
@@tacotown4598 true
My opinion,
1)Navarch of the seas
2)gooliath doomship
3)ascended shadow (2nd if going super lategame)
4)magus perfectus (with proper degree)
5)master builder (600% overcloked)
6)glaive dominus
7)apex plasma master (5th in a good map)
1:25 i know how to get global camo for a way cheaper price……….Etienne lvl 8 😅😅😅😅😅
the dart paragon is usually my go-to for boss events due to the easy degree 30
0:08 bro predicted talk tuah
“Glave dominos” 💀☠️
For simplicity of use Dart paragon deserves at least C rating as the easiest and cheapest level 30 paragon to get against bosses, tiers 2 and 3. Navarch is not hampered by lack of water as you can put down pools (I'm mainly talking late game runs where using various powers is standard) and should rank second if not first.
While monkey powers are disabled you cannot use pools.
Lategame is irrelevant.
Using large amounts of pools to get a decent degree boat is not viable and why would you do so when you can use the far better ace paragon
@@tacotown4598 I got one guy of mine thinking that Freeplay is irrelevant.
@@xuansangdotrinh1055 what does that even mean?
@@tacotown4598 A friend of mine thinks Navarch is too OP. He used Freeplay to measure in strenght. He even said Goliath's overpriced.
These days I feel like boat paragon is b tier. Killing 2 bad BLOONS really isn’t that much lategame, instant killing non bads has little to no value at all in the hyper late game meta, but most importantly, it’s near universally outclassed in bosses.
I have a question, what were the mods you had to use boss bloons in sandbox and how could i install it myself (safely). i want to do a bit of testing like that myself
Dart monkey should’ve gotten low C. Sure it’s the worst paragon, but it’s easy D30 potential for early game bosses should give it low C tier. Still worse than the boomerang, but still C tier.
guys i got 8,4m with 5% abilitys rate but if had more monkey knolegg i would have goten more and if i did some other thing and also this was on logs hero ben and i did it with no mods / hakes
Right now, I'd put dart in B right below ninja. Its cost got a massive nerf recently and now it's only 150k. Also, with some monkey knowledge it's very easy to get moderately high degrees, and its incredibly low cost makes it perfect for 3rd, and sometimes 4th and 2nd teir bosses depending on the event. In my opinion it is the most versatile paragon. That being said it is still in fact pretty much a worse boomer paragon, and I agree with all of the other placements on this tier list 100% :D
I agree with a lotta stuff, and i really hope they add an ice monkey paragon at some point, i love ice monk e
what rounds did you get to for each paragon in the freeplay testing?
Honestly, I didn’t even know wizard had a paragon before watching this
Wish the engineer paragon utilized the other two paths better. To me it just seems like a super buffed top path engineer.. the paragon doesn’t incorporate the trap (bottom path) or buffs to other towers (middle path).
The way you said Navarch (Nav-arch) was what I thought was the correct way to say it until I heard others say "Nay-varch".
I have to agree on the tier list but i will put ninja higher cuz i am biased and i love the ninja tower😂
My only complaint is the increased focus on micro with recent paragons. I feel like the master builder was fine with the sentries (though I would have loved it to have an upgraded XXXL trap somehow) but I don’t like how they went about things for magus Perfectus or the Nautic siege core.
Ninja is S the damage is insane and he gives cameo detection
This week ranked boss competitions in the least rows so degree 30 dart paragon with 2 XBM can be the goat
Bro, you read that C tear bro this man can almost one shot like any balloon
In my opinion dart is definitely at least C tier because it’s just so cheap and easy to get for the first 3-4 elite boss tiers and can easily solo all tiers of normal.
It’s good, it’s just that it’s in the same position boomer used to be in. It’s good, but it has no place being used when the other paragons can fill all the niches
On good water maps, Navarch of the Seas blows everything else out of the water! And it kinda looks like an imperial star destroyer
I agree with everything despite the fact what i dont like engigon
It bothers me that he didn't start with the dart paragon
i learned to micro the ace paragon with my tongue today
The boat Paragon is absolutely cracked
A lot of new paragons got added when I left it used to be only the dart mokey paragon
My favorite paragon is the Goliath doomship. Personally, I don’t have it but it looks really cool and powerful. In my opinion, it’s only downside is it’s price. But it’s worth it.🛩️🛩️
It’s definitely worth it, best paragon in the game by far
@@tacotown4598second best i got both buccaneer and ace buccaneer is better bc of auto moab sucks and abilty to one shot bads
@@progamingminion2856 freeplay is irrelevant, ace is way better vs bosses.
thanks for helping me prove to my friend that goliath doomship is a good paragon
ZOHHHH MY GOOOD
I would have put ninja to A tier but nothing else would change in my opinion
DAMN STRAIGHT -engineer pyro-gon
Fun fact: degree 76 bucc paragon has more cps than degree 100 ace paragon(testing done)
boomer having a support passive ability makes no sense and it’s a little awkward. i think giving it to the dart paragon would make more sense as middle path dart is about granting dps to other towers and boomerang can get more raw dps buffs to compensate
the wizard paragon imo is the most balanced paragon in btd6. if your lazy then do not go for him in boss runs. But he’s pretty good in late game runs. although you have to use the abilities to get him to his most damage, he’s a pretty balanced paragon and you probably can’t decline it.
wizard is ultra ass late game. I did a cornfield no harvest run and I constantly microed wizard paragon and that thing got out damaged by all other paragons except for Boomer. now imagine not mircoing it. that thing is almost as garbage for late game as dart paragon is
@@Lt_Koro yea your right. for late game tho he’s pretty okay. jus like dart paragon. which is also why this paragon isn’t for people that don’t want to micro any abilities.
@@Lt_Korot should be good, but it has am issue currently that it uses mana per each pierce used. So high degrees with a lot of bloons loses al it's mana and have to rely like 90% of the time on the trash refill beam.
And for that reason it isn't balanced currently.
Its not balanced. It should be cheaper. It is micro heavy to get its full potential. To be close to worst paragons in terms of damage potential. Honestly i like this Tower For its design but i do claim that most of the paragons are just too cheap And this Tower yet too expensive in this game. Considering also the fact that seperated t5s are also average, not expensive but not cheap either for wizard paragon.
For me, Magus Perfectus absolutely needs to be buffed to gain increased Graveyard capacity per level, because high levels just chew through their mana too fast
Do paragons get buffs from sun temple/monkey towers or alchemists or even engineers oc?
They get no buffs
I will say the freeplay test wouldn't be a good representation of the plane's freeplay strength as most of the plane's missiles wouldn't be hitting as bloons would not be making it far enough into the track for it's 360 radius to be relevant
Navarch can hypothetically do inf damage and I ain’t gonna explain how
I like the dart monkey paragon, because is the only that i have XD
Me to
I know you made alot of bosses content, but this list is very bosses gamemode bias
I think you should rename the vid to "ranking paragon against bosses"😂
This tier list is valid
Isn't the wizard paragon still glitched. The lv 100 phoenix is still a lv 1 in every way I have seen and tested
I dont think dart deserves to be in the worst because since it was the first one the devs probably didnt know they would go to such heights with towers so they kept it lowkey
The dart paragon have been buffed! It now have the abillity “true sun god fan club”💀
Thanks this helped a lot, I needed to figure out which one to get next. Also, you said Navarch of the Sea correctly, good job XD
From freeplay testing using only the paragon to see the highest round it can reach alone, these are my results: 1: Boat, 2: Engi, 3: Ninja, 4: Wizard, 5: Boomerang, 6: Ace, 7: Sub, 8: Dart
Good all 3:36
My opinion is different, in seventh place I would put the wizard in 6, the dart in 5, the engineer in 4, the boomerang in 3, the ace in 2, the ninja in 1 and the boat in
I have a lot of disagreements, but my main one is that you don’t understand that a tower is worth more than just by itself. Navarch is better than ace because you can do Round 200 with Geraldo in just one rejuv. Also, micro should not need to be a factor. Micro isn’t too out of the way, so I think wizard should be A tier.
first: no one should ever use Geraldo for trying to reach high rounds. geraldo is terrible. not as terrible as like 90% of the rest of the heros but still terrible compared to the likes of Adora and Ezili.
second: micro absolutly should be taken into account cuz wizard is horrible without it. 100% the worst paragon in the game without micro. well not actually cuz dart is still worse but that doesnt say much... its horrendous how bad wizard paragon is for late game
In late game rounds microing is hella dificult due to enormous lags in the game.
You call r200 late game? You're probably new here huh, the navarch is good but when you get to some actual late game rounds, it is garbage
@@Lt_Koro I meant micro is not an insue that makes wizard worse. Also, what mode requires you to get to round 200?
The reason why the ace paragon is the best paragon is because its easily the best paragon for bosses
Heres how to pronounce the bucconeer paragon. Nay-vark of the seas
I'm disappointed that you can't put towers on the Goliath Doomship's wings.
Finally someone who likes engineer paragon
I spent ages trying to get him and he sucked so bad😭 I even got him to like 70 in sandbox and he still was so bad
They should swap the dart and boomer paragon prices, perhaps even make them a little more cheap and expensive respectively
The dart paragon is the first one i unlocked, and i think I’m addicted to the game cuz i unlocked him in less than a week and maxed a lot of monkeys
Nah bro put dart at last 💀
Obviously the tower isn’t intense this way but if you were to factor in the exploited magnus perfectus where would that rank?
Now with update 46 Lord of the Abyss makes NOTS able to be on land
Even if it's incredibly strong, Engi is still the worst designed paragon.
The Navarch and Glave Dominus are ironically better support paragons than the ACTUAL support paragon. It's also the ONLY paragon that doesn't incorporate all 3 paths.
If novices understood how good it was, they'd complain until it got the spike factory treatment. Having it seem bad to novices is a beautiful design whether that was intentional or not.
@@shawniesharko2710what novice? The tower that shoot fast after every round and only has the top path signatures? It has high dps, and thats it, its absolute garbage
@@tridinh1011 so high dps is bad now, got it
what mods do you use for testing and gameplay?
But the dart monkey can be boosted by monkey village to be even better, would that bump it up at all?
I still think engi paragon is worse than others. just becaus it expensive, weird micro and when you start with it its bad. ofc after all overclock boost its better. but what i think egni that you put turret down and lets it shoot. its too weak and expensive for that. And wisard (i know i thinks its still some of broken becaus bugs or something) but that tower is make it for "you want i do something micro me" and that fine. But overall my very messy text in a nutshell. Engi is bad. But i agree with ace, i dont even micro it and i know its best (and i like it most how it looks like).
Engi is up there because of the instakill potential, it is an easy way to get insane ranked timers. But I do think that boat goes higher.
@@genio2509 i know its that becaus that instakill but other wise its some times just worse than bomerang becaus high cost and its not strong like boat. Boat is expensive than bomerang but it also better. And yes i think boat can go little higher becaus if you can get trade empire its easy way get higher degree and same time its your other rounds defense + money making.
Making the Boat paragon down a tier cause it needs to be on water is kinda dumb cause use the pool or if your in chimps just go on a water map .
I think Boat and Ace are the best for bosses by *far* but I still have a love for the Ninja paragon
Ace alone is enough to curbstomp every boss in the game with ease, there’s no reason to get boat at all
right now the boat paragon is the best bc a 5-0-0 mermonkey spawns some “water” that you can place water towers on
to set degree on magus perfectus, when we set the phoenix it won't appear so we have to exit and enter mode again to spawn the phoenix,i think its bug
won't work in sandbox
He used mods you cant do paragons in Sandbox with no mods
@@Toaster_YT yea i know,but you can't set degree on magus perfectus in sanbox if you use set degree phoenix will be bug
Atleast my fav paragon magus perfectus got B, i hope it gets buffs like decreasing its price or it solo potential without its bird.
Amazing list
Very cool...
Streams when?
Now I have not played balloons since Corvus came out like a month ago but when I last played I had a maxed (tier 76) engineer paragon on round 90 I also had a tier one boat paragon on round 120 the boat paragon had more than double the engineer paragons dmg. Plus is a little bit of water that rare?
No, the boat is better for damage, but the engineer is still better.
Great to see someone not underrating the Engineer. That paragon is a beast.
Overall navarch of the sea is EXTREMELY powerful the BAD one shot is just SO op
It also auto sucks in moabs ddts and zomgs