REVENGE SENTENCING GONE WILD!! Defendant accused of heinous crime reacts to his sentence!
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So one of the deceased was a child abuser, did 15 years, got out, did it again, GOT BAIL and his daughter's takeaway from the whole situation was "he never molested ME, and I had to pay for a funeral and to replace my car"
There's a whole bunch of f*cked up stuff in this case.
Yea… that whole statement infuriated me. I empathize with her in some ways. But she needs to empathize will all of her fathers victims as well. He didn’t deserve to breath our air in my opinion. These kinds of cases just make me feel some type of way
That's pretty much what I was thinking
you love murder
And then she took no responsibility for running a red light, totalling her car, instead blaming the defendant. Where is her accountability? If she is that distraught, she should not be on the road.
That’s what I thought too.
Sounds like this guy was taking out the trash to me.
No, mob rule shouldn’t be allowed and can in fact be very detrimental. But you can argue that this guy wouldn’t have done what he did had the justice system stepped up in the first place.
Thank you to the DA for asking why those men were out on bond in the first place ?
Thanks to channels like this we get to see the challenges courts face every day. We're also fortunate to see judges like this, Simpson, Fleishman, Stevens, Boyd and others who are fair yet tough. These judges represent the best of our system.
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I'm also thankful for Zoom
It’s Fleisher, not Fleishman
I wouldn’t even want that woman praying for me. False humility and a holier than you attitude.
If he hadn't had such a lengthy criminal history, the outcome likely would have been different.
Bigger than that, the extent of the premeditation and the power display of showing the shooting on social media. A crime of passion is one thing, but this guy thinks he knows best for us all...
The woman saying her dad “did his time” like it was some accomplishment, then admonishing the defendant for helping prosecutors lock up other peds and abusers was the most obscene statement I’ve ever heard from a victim impact in my life.
That was something indeed. I guess her father taught her about snitches and stitches.
Yeah, she was kinda weird. Like she said, she has issues. But anyway I think the reason for that part of her statement was that she was worried he would get a very light sentence in exchange (which happens a lot). It wasn't so much that he was helping prosecutors, and more to do with the help he may have received in return.
Sounds like the right people are dead and the right person will be in prison.
I know it was all about her. If my dad abused kids I'd never want to meet him or let him near kids.
He did his but he got out and did it again and he’s been a sex offender since the 90’s
The daughter of the deceased said her father didn’t hurt her, but she spent 15 years away from him. Maybe, she should be thankful that she did because that is probably what saved her from being hurt by him.
Her 15 minutes of fame
Yeah I guess she's upset but like "Oh I never knew him in my adolescence, and he never molested ME" yeah he seems to molest young children. Thing about that, lady. He didn't know you when you were a child and he didn't molest you. HUH.
I have nothing nice to say about her so I'm gonna stfu
@@vickieblocker717 Yes, I'm thinking that's exactly what that is, and that she couldn't care less about the r@ped kids. This is just her 15 minutes of fame.
@@kyfarm Sadly, too many people find the role of victim appealing. I think making a "victim impact" statement put the spotlight on her victimhood. Her "suffering" from her dad was abandonment, I dare say his true victims suffered on a completely different level. She doesn't seem capable of understanding that. Oh well, now she can absolve herself of any wrong doing or character flaws due to her now being an even bigger victim.
In a “civilized “ society they wouldn’t put up with pedophiles. Period. And sorry daughter, your father didn’t serve his time, he got out and did it again!!! He should’ve never gotten out! Period. He reoffended. He hurt another again. So he never ever should’ve gotten out. Period.
Some trashy people in the court.
Takes one to see one 🧁
Yup
@@thatguyitsme7707nawh you just need too look in the dumpster to see trash.
These kids are going to grow up with neither parent?.... sounds like the kids are much safer with mom in prison from what I know.
The mother sold the children to two known sex offenders for drugs, money and a car. The father was already incarcerated when this all occurred. When he was released, he went and murdered the two men.
I know it's a tragedy. Those kids went through so much and then to have those two people as parents.
Imagine defending a twice convicted pedo by saying “he was my dad”…. That woman should’ve been embarassed to even feel one ounce of sympathy for that monster but to stand there, indignant, wagging her finger at not just the defendant, but the defendant’s daughter (a victim of her father) is disgusting.
That woman should bear the brunt of whatever that child has to go through (therapy costs, psychological damage) since she’s so eager to defend her monster of a father.
27:19 "Why're they screaming at me?".... because you were defending a monster, had the audacity to compare the "trauma" of having to pay for that sack of crap's funeral to the ACTUAL trauma that the defendant's child had to face. This woman is ignorant, insufferable, and vile.
It makes sense that she's the daughter of a pedo.
She's disgusting for defending him!!
I remember the mother’s sentencing in front of Judge Anzalone. She practically gave her daughter to those men.
Not practically - she DID - in exchange for drugs and a car after being told not to by CPS because they were RSO’s!!!
@@naysmimi4566so if they weren’t RSO’s it would have been okay?
@@BUDDYSHADOWWho said that? Oh I see, no one.
Nice try.
If anybody can recommend the other court trials I'm curious with this is the first one I'm seeing with the family
@@dawnrodgers9466 Jamie Cardin plea Judge Anzalone Nov 8, 2023 Jamie Cardin Sentencing Jan 26, 2024. Christopher Cardin Judge Olsaver original sentencing hearing that didn't go, (it was a series of mishaps) May 3, 2024. There are many news articles in Lenawee County MI news networks that detail the crimes.
if that had been my daughter I would be standing there
Right! Gladly!
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Me too!
And further rob your daughter of the father she could have had while you rot in jail?….ok
He should be pardoned
Even though he unalived a bad person, it doesnt matter. You CAN NOT take the law into your own hands.
I feel like "civilized society" wouldn't include these people overall... civilized people have a modicum of self control and a plethora of coping skills.
I could never be an impartial juror.
No, me either.
Both the murders and the sexual assault of children were horrific crimes. The fact the predator was let out on bail after having served a jail sentence for the same offense is outrageous. A second sexual offense charge should result in no bail and a lifetime sentence in order to keep children safe.
Those 2 people don't matter👍
Well if the court system locked the predators away we wouldn’t have these kinds of crimes
I agree, this is a situation where the judicial branch should have locked up the predator not let them out and hope they change their ways.. this is a prime example of society normalizing sexual indecency so a person took power in his own hands..
you love murder
Truth!❤
Preach!
Nothing can change these child molesters. They only stop when they are in prison, away from children. When will the justice system consider the rights of victims over the rights of abusers?
The most chilling thing was when the daughter of the victim talked about her father that molested kids and said "He did his time. And he didn't go and testify against a bunch of other people to get out of his time." Just wow. She seems proud that her father would have let other abusers roam free. I've seen sometimes where these people take pictures and they are able to find groups where they swap pictures of their victims. If her dad had information and didn't testify, then he's partly responsible for all the victims of those other abusers as well.
Where was “Civilised Society” in protecting the Flippen Victims?
Wow, they threw him back to the wolves after he helped them testify against other criminals like it was nothing.
Now his picture is out there, with prosecutors naming the cases he provided info on.
But, that said, this is a tragedy on so many fronts. I imagine what the defendent felt like to hear what his kid went thru. It would make me insane. But not enough to do anything other than bring in law enforcement.
I can appreciate the thinking behind this argument - but what it doesn’t take into account, is that remorse (or lack thereof) is an equally important factor in the sentencing guidelines.
The defendants behavior in this video, really does affirms the judge’s decision on two levels: the defendant’s lack of remorse, and that the defendant is incapable of existing in a civilized society. His deliberate attempt to further scar the victim’s already-troubled daughter is unforgivable.
His cooperation is for mercy in the next life, not in this one. Not that I’m a believer but lifers need to believe in prison God because they have nothing else.
Never trust the system.
Think on this: If he had been home, taking care of his family, instead of in prison doing time, maybe none of this would have happened. When you find yourself in a hole, stop digging.
Prayers for the children who were affected by these animals 🙏🏻
Obviously, everything about this is terrible.
Judges not wanting vigilante justice should stop putting criminals back out on the street over and over. Saying the justice system is there to prevent violence in society is fine if the justice system is working.
I remember his daughter's mother's hearing. His daughter's mother was charged in her daughter's lost innocence too. She was allowing 3 different men to come an violate her daughter knowingly. It's disgusting. I don't really blame this guy for what he did.
maybe you belong in jail with him.
@MrsBees I agree 100% with you. I watched the mother's sentencing and was horrified at the facts of the case. She traded/sold her own children to continue to get high. The depth, degree and depravity of the abuse the one daughter suffered is unimaginable. This father did what the justice system couldn't/wouldn't..he put an end to the reign of terror and saved future victims.
Why? Do you think killing one sex offender is just like any other sex offender? Why didn’t he kill his wife since she was the pimp? Those guys who diddled his daughter are disgusting and should be in jail, and I don’t know the situation but it sounds like the daughter wouldn’t have been assaulted if not for the mother. Shouldn’t your “understanding” be more directed at the mother who turned out her own daughter?
@@trejt he tried!!! Go watch the moms sentencing. Jaimee Lee Carden is her name. It's on this channel.
@@trejt He tried to kill his wife but failed!
That was a horrible sentence for SECOND-DEGREE murder! Lots of people don't get 40+ years for FIRST DEGREE! What a shame.
Not with a criminal record as long as his its not.
With four previous felony convictions on the books, in a lot of states he wouldn't have been in the daylight again in the first place.
Wow this was INTENSE.
Thanks for the coverage. This case was sad all the way around.😢
Children shouldnt live in fear. The courts need to start doing their jobs. Around the world molestation should be given higher priority with much harsher sentances. They cant be fixed, stop trying. They are never going to stop wanting to hurt children and we know it! The desire is always there, to depend on their own personal restraint is INSANE. Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result IS the definition of insanity and yet the justice systems of the world do it over and over again.
A civilized society would have kept the two men in jail.
Although I understand fhe hurt the daughter of the victim must feel having her father murdered, sshe needs to calm down a little because he did actually molest a child. I don't think I could stand there and defend ANYONE who was found guilty of being a child molester. The defendant clearly shouldn't have taken a life, but defending a child molester is disgusting under any circumstance as far as I am concerned.
Apparently more than one.
He’s still her dad and he’s still dead. We can all be brave keyboard warriors, but none of us know how we’d feel if we were put in such an indefensible position. At the end of the day, the man killed another man, her father. You have no right to judge how she should feel about her father.
@@Schnuki_________ our commitment to humanity should outweigh our commitment to any individual, however close. Forgetting that is how parents cover up their children’s crimes, etc.
Completely agree with everything you said
@@Schnuki_________My dad tried to kill my mother. Never had a relationship after it happened. He’s dead now and I don’t have any regrets.
I’m torn. I know a person isn’t supposed to take matters into their own hands, BUT the Justice system clearly failed by letting the 2 men out and being a parent, if someone hurt my child, I can’t say his actions were right or wrong.
Changing my mind on the victim impact statement. I don't agree with her way of seeing things at all. Molesters especially of children should never see the light of day.
The fact that she hasn't seen him in 15 years is telling. There is no way she was letting him near her own kids.
However, he should not have taken this guy's life, or at least not on Facebook.
She wasn't saying he didn't molest her in order to defend him. She was putting it out there because her father is a child molester and it's likely assumed that he messed with her as well. It wasn't a defense of him. She literally called him a bad man.
Thank you for clarifying that - so many commenters are criticizing the daughter. She needed to say her father didn't abuse her because it's what everyone assumes and will continue to assume all her life. The daughter may not have wanted anything to do with her father in terms of a meaningful relationship, but she needed to know she could confront him one day. The defendant wanted closure for himself, he never considered the needs of the man's victims, including his own child.
😂😂😂😂😂😂 to every comment here
@@vanessamw1140 And then she blamed the defendant for her crashing her car.
@@FrenkTheJoy maybe. I dunno, I didn't hear that bit.
If he 💀 a chomo, he should get the key to the city not jail time.
They always let the monsters free, and keep the heroes locked up
The audacity of that woman to speak about his daughter that her dad brutally abused. Who in their right mind would even feel remorse for a 15year absent RSO father knowing what he did.. i could never
Thanks Squishy. Big fan of your channel. This was a deep one
This is in Michigan and I thought that state was tough on pedophiles with life in prison and no bond while awaiting trial, so who let that person out to begin with? A lot of questions on corruption in the courts up there. Yes he took the law into his own hands and now has to pay for it. Sad day for the children
when our courts punish & incarcerate the men who stand up for innocent people, what does it say about the courts?
He did nothing for his daughter by killing those men. Now, in addition to the guilt she has to overcome about what they did to her, she will have the associated guilt of their deaths and her father in prison for most of her life.
I don’t blame him omg 🤬
This is why I don't have kids. I'm not mad at him. 🤷🏻♀️ Don't even talk touch my dog or I'm in there.
😂 a dog? seriously? throw me in there with you, don't even talk touch my pet fish or i'm in there with you 😂
The judge should not have allowed the daughter to directly address him the way she did. She was supposed to give a statement to the court not preach at the defendant.
That's what bothered you from this whole ordeal?
It's normal for victim impact statements to be addressed to the defendant. They really aren't given for the benefit of the court and rarely make any difference to the sentence. They exist so the victim (or the victim's family in this case) can get some closure. Addressing the defendant directly can achieve that purpose better.
That’s not true
I’ve seen a lot of statements like this and usually they allow them to do either
that is true
I live in Michigan, I remember when this happened.. from the beginning in what happened to the daughter to what this defendant did. This was a brutal killing.
He killed him with one shot to back of head, right? How did he kill the other one? I guess i didn’t hear of that one
Who the hell is this guy and what the hell was he doing in life that he was able to give such important testimony in several other big cases while being involved in his own big murder trial?
He's just sitting there letting chaos happen. Any other judge would have cleared the courtroom
He signalled for the bailiffs to remove the defendant in the hope that that would calm things down. When it didn't, the individuals involved were removed from the court room. The noise we were hearing after that was from the hallway outside. The judge told the bailiff to get reinforcements to deal with the people in the hallway. I'm not sure what else you expect the judge to do...
The judge was shaking, you could see the papers shaking as he held them unless he shakes like that normally
@@rockulikeahurricane He ended up pressing his panic button, so he was clearly very concerned about the situation. I'm not surprised he was shaking.
Highly emotional case. The case was over. Let the people, the tax payers, have their say, it didnt hurt anyone.
@@farmfreshideas579 The victim's daughter said they were making her feel unsafe and I don't think she was being overly sensitive.
I am thankful that no other children will be abused by the hands of this disgusting man.
What are you talking about ? He killed two pedo's . One of whom had been in prison for molesting kids and who had molested his child
might go the other way around in prison
If they check his records they will
what are you talking about? the defendant here didn't do anything to children, right?
@@PoliticallyPink He didn’t, he’s a snitch though. He took out two pieces of trash. His wife wasn’t one of them. Feels like I have to post cryptically to affirm your question.✌️
If they want the sentence deviated down for future cooperation, don't they usually defer sentencing? Come back and sentence after he finishes cooperating?
It sounds like they did do that, but the jail had enough of his antics and wanted him sentenced so he should be transferred to prison. I guess the prosecution heeded their request. The prosecutor said he was open to resentencing at a later time to allow for any further assistance the defendant provides.
It also sounded like no amount of cooperation was going to be enough to overcome his lengthy criminal history.
That judge, not taking control and allowing those people to scream and yell and curse while not citing them for contempt is shameful. They had no repercussions for their behaviour and that is the height of “uncivilized” actions. Disgusting.
So why doesn’t the legal system who never did anything about this molester have to pay any price? Kills me how the justice system never takes any responsibility in cases like these. This guy might not be heading to jail for 40-75 years if the molester would have been taken care of in the first place. I find it sick out there’s loopholes how some can be punished and others can’t!! “The Justice system isn’t perfect” is an understatement! I feel for his daughter, I really do but if that was my Dad In addition to other things she was saying - such as she never seen him much (he sounded like a real winner); I would never have stood up for him - stand up for the innocent victim!! What is wrong with people when they have a voice for a pedaphile but no voice for innocent victims of sexual assault- very young ones at that!!! I don’t condone murder but in this case I don’t totally disagree with it either. He just did what most people would think about and most likely want to do and it’s only the laws that would keep us from doing it - ya know the same people who didn’t protect her the first place? Because who knows how many times this molester got off on a technicality
Everyone in the justice system has immunity.Nobody ever faces consequences unless they blatantly violate law or rules.
Lenawee County has a serious drug problem right now and the deceased took advantage of that when he sought to victimize this defendant’s kids while he was locked up and absent due to his own issues. The mother basically explained that at her own sentencing. This is all incredibly fucking sad, but I will say that even from this distance, you can tell that Carden looks better today than he did in his mugshot for this offense. Dad’s pursuit of his addiction took him away from the kids and mom’s pursuit of her addiction put them in harm’s way. Addiction is merciless and the trail of its wreckage in this case is just astounding.
The mother *gave her children to registered s*x offenders to get what she wanted*, then she and her attorney tried to play the victim and pretend that it was the addiction and she was just *powerless* to do otherwise. I have *zero* pity for her, she can rot.
How does he know so much about murder cases and other serious crimes?
Where were the contempt charges at the end?
Thanks.. for the video ❤❤❤
Thank you!
The reason it took a few minutes for all hell to break loose was that the defendant’s supporters thought at first it was a good sentence,since they heard months, not years. The defendant on the other hand knew immediately it was a minimum of 50 years.
Why do they even give them a small fine when they’re going to be in prison for such a long time. It seems so petty in the grand scheme of things.
Usually it's in the statute. He'll work it off in jail.
The judge should not have allowed all that racket when the gallery walked in. He has the obligation to shut it all down..
Jesus he executed a man by shooting him in the back of the head on Facebook Live? How did he think this was going to go? Time served and a $100 ticket?
I sure hope Facebook didn’t cancel his account.
@@BUDDYSHADOWyou know they did. But if he was filming SA they won’t bc Facebook loves that stuff
dont think he cared
He she cares now.@@williamanderson6006
In a descent society he would be applauded
Girlie really said “He did his time” lol
While vigilantism shouldn't be condoned, the judge going on about a "civilized society" should acknowledge that a civilized society wouldn't have let those pedos do what they did in the first place. The dad didn't go after them for nothing. If the judge had been in the same position and knowing that this was wasn't their first offense, what would he have done?
Thanks for making the cuts! I knw it's hard but it makes these cases 500x easier to follow. Especialy for those with brain damage/attention issues.
Is this the guy who killed his daughter's molesters after the MOTHER who was strung out on drugs gave her daughter to them, to do what they wanted?! I don't condone killing, and especially NOT filming it (that is just horrific) but another part of me can't blame the guy for taking matters into his own hands.Lord knows these pervs skate ALL the time on molestation charges. The REAL victims here are the defendant's children.
Oooh, I believe that IS this case. The daughter told mom, and mom still traded the daughter to the pedo, for drugs and a free “babysitter”.
The first appearance was the last I ever saw of this case.
I once got sentenced standing in the same exact podium, but it was about 20 years ago
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Free that man asap
Now tht daughter got “es ayed” prob horrid and traumatic events for rest of her life
Let alone both her parents aren’t going to be in her life
Now she will be “s. Ayed” by her foster parents or the people in the system of CPS
Mybe if we let vigilantes do this w a new law
Then I bet ped0$ wouldnt be a thing anymore
Thanks!
How was the crazy ladies dad even out on bail. How could he get a bail with his history. His bail should have been so high he could never post it. That judge failed to protect the community and a child paid for it.
When a person gets sentenced to 50 years they are going to react, it might not be in court but when the time comes that you realize you will be in a cage for the rest of your life, it will hit like a freight train.
This is full-on Shakespeare level stuff. Just… wow.
Florida is finally putting the death penalty on the table for these monster but he goes to prison for ending one. Make it make sense
Florida is a barbaric state with a governor that is a preening cretin who was a guard at Gitmo. That's half way to your understanding.
In Florida if a person is charged a convicted of sexual assault on person 12 years or younger they can get the death penalty. Someone is facing that now in Florida.
When you get 50 points taken off your PRV, and it still doesn't change your level - you done fucked up.
Their kids are the most important thing in their lives once they get to Court. Using their kids to try to get a lighter sentence. What a POS!
Right. But their kids were not important enough for them to stop using drugs and committing crimes
He literally defended his children against a ch.oooomo. you support the deceased? What's wrong with you
Great as always squish
Appreciate it.
That guy that called the court bullshit absolutely needed contempt charges - I like Judge Olsaver normally, but he lost complete control of his court and just passively let other folks deal with it nonchalantly. At minimum he should have done a show cause to tell SOMEONE in that guy's family that actions have consequences.
Wow the daughter of the victim is very moving. I hope he took what she said to heart and makes changes
First time I sided with the defendant.
So you’d commit a crime to make yourself and only yourself feel better? Ok.
First time you've ever virtue-signaled, too - right???
She's mixed up
Absolutely disgusting woman makes a good case for the defense
8:28 you’re not here to condemn him. Good. Because that’s not the job of victim impact statement. A VIS is to the judge not to the defendant. There seems to be a fundamental misunderstanding about this. It’s not your chance to speak to the defendant, it’s your chance to express to the judge why you feel a certain sentences appropriate. And I get it. Totally understand that people see this as their opportunity to speak to the person that did them wrong. But that is not the point of a victim impact statement.
I was surprised that the judge didn't redirect her.
150 years ago, he'd have gotten a $5000 reward.
The good ol’ days, huh? Back when we lived to a ripe old age of 40! If diarrhea didn’t kill you the black Bart and his boys would! Back when you can marry a 12 year old and she’d be dead by 20 because due to complications with birth.
Child molesters do not recover. The daughter said she wanted to make, "amends" with her father. It is true that children who are abused and neglected usually still love their parents. But, I can not imagine a relationship with a child molester. This situation is tragic for everyone.
Too many times the prosecutors and courts fail to do the job and especially in today’s society.
What did they expect? A revenge killing to be overlooked?
all I can say is OSG...OMG!! thank you for all you do to bring these videos to us to watch. No matter how you slice it, it's tragic and so many lives are affected. Its like the pebble in the pond, the people affected just gets wider and wider.
Wow insane case
We can't have monsters running loose in the country no matter what they have done. Up to 900 month (75yrs) for killing two people is a fair sentence in my eyes. It doesn't matter who they were, you took justice in to your own hands and we can't have that in this country. If everyone took justice in to their own hand this country would be a free for all..
He didn't think he knew everybody knew !
That lady in the back, did she say, " He never molested me, and I had to pay for a funereal to replace my car? WTF? There is just a bunch of F*CKED up stuff in this case.There is just alot to unpack here in this paticular case.
The saying, 2 wrongs don't make a right comes to mind
It's fair to say that but, at the same time, prisoners dole out "street justice" in a way courts cant do, and everyone knows that especially the child abusers themselves! It's why they're housed in a completely separate wing.
@messrsandersonco5985 Well, I guess he will have prison buddies backing him up.
I get it, I don't know what I would do, but I would try to remember, my family is my priority and I don't want to serve time and they visit me.
The saying 'f*ck around and find out' comes to mind. Maybe those abusers should've stayed away from kids like they're *required by law* to do.
I grew up only having 1 parent and I don't have "major issues ". Get your facts straight.
This was crazy to watch!!! Wish we had hall security cam footage 😮
The video from the first attempt at sentencing is equally crazy. Judge Olsaver May 3, 2024 It is still avail to vire
Now i need to find to find more info on this case and the mothers case
How was this 2nd degree? Both prosecutors referenced extraordinary and extensive premeditation!
When it comes to any of my kids I don't think or give a damn about nobody else but them
Sentence was heavy 😮
Good morning OSG and thank you!
I doubt he's going to help with any more cases the judge saw to that.
Ow, that guy has a lot of guts asking if this is what they call a just society? Insulting the daughter of one of the men he killed is not great either. Super interesting court case to lidten yo and watch.
Life Rule #1 = Choose the behavior=choose the consequences. It's not Rocket Science!
not so easy as you put it, if it was like that we would have no unemployed people, no drug addicts, no criminals, no nothing. You think the issue is those people don't knnow the consequences?
@bonnieceighton4163 You're right "Choose the behavior=choose the consequences". Those child molesters *chose the behavior* so they *chose the consequences*. Not saying everything Christopher did was right but those guys knew the very real consequences when they were caught. Whether by revenge or by other prisoners.