"DEMON 170" is $250,000
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- Dodge Challenger "Demon 170" dealership markup is massive! The MSRP for the Demon 170 is $96,000 plus taxes/dealership fees. Many of the dealerships are marking them up to increase their profit by $50 or $100k on top of sticker price. Right now you're seeing Dodges final last call model "Demon 170" being priced between $150-$200,000!!!
What do you think of these Dealership markups on the Dodge Last Call models?! Is it worth the price?
#Demon #Dodge #Challenger
The Price Gouging on all these Mopars is INSANE!!!
It's literally like they are just adding the mark ups directly into the MSRP. So b.s man! 😑
I'll stick with the OG Demon as being the most valuable and desired in the long run.
Well if people wouldn't buy it then they wouldn't be charging it. Make them be the fool because they don't have the upper hand, you do by not being part of the sheep herd and paying their ridiculous prices.
It’s the new normal and I expected it. Stellantis actually encouraged their dealers to use ADM.
I suppose it’s a consolation, for the fact that they are not going to be “musclecars” offered by them until again until Q4 2024. Notice I have air quotes around the words musclecar 😂
Everyone saw how the 2018 demon skyrocketed in price and basically doubled its value in four years….. including the dealers. IMOThis was an opportunistic move by the manufacture and dealers to make you pay if you want to play.
You can build your own 170 for less than half the price
The scats aren’t even wide body’s for that price… unbelievable.. 😎
I'm loving all of this. While my redeye is still sleeping in my garage in hibernation mode. U snooze u lose on the mopar. Now u have to pay
The prices just keep climbing. So glad I have my 2 rides - will be hanging onto them for a long time
Exactly my man, I'm so glad I took it serious n made my moves before all this shenanigans
I find it amazing how Dodge has leveraged its brand to these prices. I remember my 2015 SP loaded had a sticker of 47k. But I got it for 39k used with 400 miles on it. I mean 5k off sticker was almost standard then for new. Times have changed.
Dodge told all of the dealers to get their money for them. Then turn around and throw the dealers under the bus. Pretty crazy, also increased invoice cost by 10-15% while not raising MSRP
Yup. 3 years ago today, bought my scat pack for 41k. I saved 23k 😂
Yep I ran into the same issure 65k-170k here in vegas bought 12 vehicle and sent multiple sales to one. And you you can even select options..
I think after a couple years a new v8 design will come out because the electric train will possibly derail due to the lack of Infrastructure
I think you're right about that. A new hemi is coming in the next 3-5 years
Probably all with smaller displacements. Like the oldschool 307s or 318s all with electric assists. I dont think we'd complain. Ford is making use of 302s
Technology is growing every single day I don’t think that’s happening I think you’re hoping that happens you would know what I’m talking about if you actually kept up with the technology industry it’s actually insane the stuff they are creating
Well from what's being said raw materials are going to be the biggest issue with battery production. So I'm sure there's going to be alternatives. Maybe synthetic fuels with ultra low emissions. 🤷
2017 prices
Sxt-$28,000
GT- $34,000
RT- $34,000
TA- $38,000
392- $38,000
SRT- $48,000
SRT Hellcat - $54,000
That SXT is almost as much as a hellcat in 2017, I don't even blame the dealers at this point I blame the stupid people that keep paying these stupid prices, it only emboldens them to raise prices further. Like KAHL-SRT drops 250k on a demon 170, like great job dude, your contributing to the price gouging.
well when you put it that way then the prices make sense because everything is 2x since then due to the $15 an hour movement
It is about the time that the car dealerships become history
Yep, and they will if people leave them hanging and not pay the insane prices they are asking.
My wife likes the new broncos but with the high interest rates and a $20,000 markup they can kiss my ass, I have a 2013 challenger rt that’s just turning 3,000 miles on it, before you guys give me crap about the low mileage let me just say that I’m a disabled veteran with a lot of physical issues and a lot of things in my life has happened since I bought it, I love driving it when I get a chance, love the videos 👍😁❤️
It's crazy. It's actually upsetting. I've never paid MSRP or even close to it. My Shaker was 52K and I was out the door at 43K. I'm just hoping the prices come down in the next two years. Once the last kid graduates, my support drops off and car payment drops off. So I'll be ready for a newer ride. But new prices better be low, or I'll go for a 10 year old beater again until the market corrects itself.
I don't think I will ever own a new Dodge. Just can't afford these prices & with 2024 coming they're not going to offer much that interests for me.
Thanks for making me decide to get a used ZL1.
I'd buy a Lambo before I paid some of them sticker prices. It's as bad as the 2023 ZO6 mark-ups.
The people with this kind of $$$ are collectors - they view these limited production rides as investments
@@RTLife They are definitely collector cars, one day the used market will be the only way to aquire one unfortunately.
It's absolutely nuts!!!
Crazy thing is people will pay it
That's why dealerships are cashing in while they can.
Bingo. in 2024 that new line up is going to struggle
I'm sorry but I don't like the 2024 lineup !!!
you're not alone with that. The majority of people that watch this channel can't stand the direction Dodge is headed.
I paid 36,000 for my 2020 RT and 48,000 for my Scat Pack charger widebody. This shiddd is insane 😳
I’ll just build my own. I’m a working man. I don’t have a quarter of a million $$$! I’m sure with a lot of hard work I could get a stroker kit for a wide body Scatt. 🙏🏾
I have bought 3 hellcats since 2018 from the same dealer. Every time the highest level hellcat. All ordered new. Plus a Jeep rubicon, TRX and a grand wagoner. Put a deposit down on the last challenger 2 years ago. Had never paid over MSRP and they said they would never charge over when I order a car. Called the day this was released to place my order and they said I had to pay $100k over sticker if I wanted my allocation. They will never get another dollar from me. NEVER
Crazy right?! All these dealerships have to be working together to be in the 50-100k over sticker range
Just like the regular 2018 Dodge Challenger SRT Demon. That car costs around $100,000 back when it's new.
FCA and now Stellantis have been shafting their customers for years. Look at how much extra you have to pay just to get a limited slip differential on an R/T or 6 cylinder Charger or Challenger. You have to pay to have your PCM unlocked. FCA voided warrantees for installing mods such as cold air intakes that don't affect performance. LSDs are standard equipment on the lowest Camaro and Mustang trims. You don't have to pay to have your PCM unlocked either. Now people are dismayed at the markup of Demon 170s. Customers get screwed and the response from many is essentially, "It's either Mopar or no car."
Last summer that dealership in Florida offered me $55,000 sight unseen for the T/A. I originally thought it was a negotiation jumping-off point and then try to whittle me down there like $23K. I forget what they offered me when I actually showed up for the oil change and after saying no four times I finally told them that bought 1 lug nut, or a ride around the block. Instead of walking away they literally asked me what would be my number.
What the dealers are going to do? Is by all their allocations at MSRP get them built first and then price gouge the shit out of people.
Yep
N dodge still didn’t update the security system
Didn't they roll out a uconnect update to increase security
@@RTLife it's hot garbage crazy you want this much for car anybody can steal
@@RTLife yes they did I had mine in for it
Dodge had a great run 2005-2023🎉🎉🎉 it a great accomplishment by Dodge, just about 1980-2003 hit and miss some vehicles , 2004-2023 the birth of SRT line up which spawned SRT 10 Viper V10, SRT 8 5.7 Hemi R/T and 6.1 SRT Hemi, then in 2011/2012 SRT 8 6.4 392 Hemi, 2015-2023 the era of Dodge muscle cars 6.4 SRT Hellcat and 6.2 Demon , 5.7 Hemi R/T has over shadow because of the Hellcat and Demon engines , but 5.7 Hemi R/T can be modified to 6.5 Hemi 397 all you need is Hellcat Supercharger whipped and you can add Hellcat cams and transmission from SRT Hellcat and muffler delete, you to here the chop of the Hellcat cams exhaust and from muffler delete.
3 liter whipple, cam, full exhaust +tune you will make 600hp at the crank. Now, rebuild the bottom end with forged internals. Change out your pully, and swap out for the big flow heads(yes I know eagles are good, but have their limits at this point), you're making over 630 whp.
If you want one build your own it'll be cheaper that way plus with Direct Connection you'll still have a warranty
Lucky if you got it at 50k over, the least I could find was 100k, everyone else was asking 150k 180k 200k some dealers were asking 250k and 300k. I got 2 at 100k over as bad as I feel it will be a good collectible, and nice piece of history to have
Sebastian you should have stuck to your morals, instead of validating this blatant collusion.
@@dongodlyduffy776 No one will come and lower the price for you, no dealer will sell at msrp, unless is for the owner, the family of the owner or the best friend of the owner of a dodge dealership, this is history in the making, it is the last original muscle car in its nastiest form, 20 years down the road, when everyone is driving 4 wheeled Ipads, everyone will reminisce about these times. and would love to terrorize the streets on a 4 digit hp fire breathing v8, therefore this is not about morals, this is about money and money has no feelings, pay to play or don't and just watch. i'm not selling it , i will be that old dude 20 years down the road driving the last 6.2 supercharged v8, and that alone is worth 100k.
The best thing about this is knowing when I see one of these on the road, it will literally be a red stamp on the forehead of the owner to show all of us how stupid they are.
This. I laugh every time. Ive never bought into the hype of these shit boxes.
The only thing that matter is the shell of the car. If you look at the Hotrod community. They’re ton of malibus that’s now swapped engine 454 ls chevelles that’s worth 100k. They’re 289 mustangs that’s swapped into 390 or 427 cobras. Like don’t fall for the trap. Buy a r/t or 7.4 and swap a hellcat or hellephant in it. You’ll get your value still. All we care about is quality build and hp. It’s a small group who care for number matching.
My 19 scat charger 25k miles for 50k last yr doesn't seem bad lol
hahaha - the prices just keep going up. So glad I have my car situation settled.
My 18 scat charger with 7800k miles for 34k in 2018 makes your 19 seem like a very bad decision
@@johnnykilroy9399 that was the cheapest miles around me then I saw a HELLCAT the same price a couple weeks later
The insane prices these are bringing make me a lot less proud of being a lifelong Mopar fan !!
Same! Might be time to switch
Bro I was just looking for hellcats and the jailbreak at a dealer in Maryland wants 130k not including fees and taxes?!??! Crazy af!!
They are literally holding cars for ransom now this is crazy!!!!!
$54K for a Dodge V6 is absolutely insane never in my life would I pay that much for a V6. Dodge name is holding more weight than Lamborghini, BMW and Mercedes nowadays like those cars will sit on a lot for forever with out markups this high
Rt is 60k plus around me. It’s super optioned, but it is nuts. This includes a 5k market adjustment.
250K for a car that can be stolen in MINUTES is insane!
This is the rare case that the government should step in and stop the price gouging like they do for post storms/ disasters
People should just not buy it - the prices will fall once there's no one willing to pay
Give me a break. It’s a luxury item. Not like it’s a necessity like food, water, or gasoline. Glad you’re not in charge.
@@dickbeale9731 why so mean? Of course its a luxury item, but doesn't mean dealerships need to price gouge.... If the manufacturer was suggesting the price should be $200k then obviously thats what they value the car at.... its another thing when a car is only valued at $100k and its being doubled at $200k.... And yes, the solution to that is not buy it.... yes I am not in charge, but I have an opinion..... Respect mine as I would respect your opinion....Have a good day sir!!
this government right now wants to ban ice cars....they definitely aren't going to help....forget that
Cool you got to see the same video content that I was speaking of
The prices are crazy! There dealerships are trying to screw people on this last call model
250k I can build a better car wth
$250k can buy a very nice car that can run a way faster 1/4 mile time
I'm getting a 911 turbo for that money
Don't forget to take into account that $53,000 RT might be loaded with options that makes it very expensive.
Still though, I didn't pay over 40 for my R/T plus with the super track pack and every option I could get other than a sun roof (I hate sunroofs). That was 5 years ago. I was just under 40k out the lot. The one optioned for 53k wasn't as loaded as mine is. Not to mention, I have been able to supercharge mine and buy extra parts and still am into it under 55k. The stealerships are doing the same thing they did in late late 2007 before the crash.
@@moralobjection4836 their are some 5.7 R/T's local to me for 37. Iv seen some optioned out for 50. I don't know why anyone would pay that for an R/T but iv seen it.
It's ridiculous how they are marking them up that the average car guy can't afford that high markup. When the guys average guys made dodge rich buying all those scatpack and hellcats. When the rich guys were into the exotics. I hope Dodge looses a lot of money when we stop buying dodges.
The Hellcat will be Saling at MSRP by the end of the year… Mark my words. This car bubble will burst…💯🔥🚀
But int rates going higher
You’ll pay more even if goes down think think
@@oscalsochirino8706 interest rate or not you will still pay the FMV and not be upside down…
@@jaygotitdahardway9941 lol good luck with that maybe the Corolla all the dealers I follow fewer challengers wat less supply demand 23 no more wishful thinking I base on facts reality. Keep following those folks on RUclips making videos that cars gonna crash maybe so but not these that’s why I bought one in Nov I knew the int rates would skyrocket and they will go higher just watch 1980 again history repeats I got my challenger amd there will be no más good luck
50k+ for a gt smdh but it's Always that one who will do it WHAT LUBE THE DEALER USED ON YA
Yup. There's always someone that will come along & buy it. Glad I'm out of the car market hahaa
I was lucky I got mine at MSRP. So hoping I can get mine first and do some wheelies on my channel for you. Only thing I wonder is will there be a long break in period like on my Hellcat?
I subbed just so I can see that! LOL
where did you get yours! WHERE DID YOU GET YOUR DEMON MAN
He doesn't have it yet!
@@dongodlyduffy776 they only had one allocation, sorry
I wouldn’t even pay 50k for a scat who tf is paying that for the v6s wtf??!!!!
So glad they tried to screw me in 2021 and I walked away with what I already had. I paid a little more than half for my R/T than what they're asking for one 5 years newer. That and a whipple, I put down power, am still into it less than a scat when I bought at the time of purchase. So cheap on insurance compared to the SRT8 Charger I had.
I found a 2023 Dodge Charger Jailbreak over $120k
crazy right?! These cars are so much $$$
For the MSRP and add the dealer mark up. You can buy a new SCAT PK and mod the crap out of its and still pay less than the demon 170
EXACTLY!!
At least Dodge is doing something to reward honest dealers, but it's not nearly enough. They should get a commitment from the dealer that they wont price-gauge before agreeing to their allocation.
"I'm not paying a dime over msrp" lmaoo bro in 2023 paying msrp would be a miracle. Even ford Fiestas are getting mark ups 😅😅
Damn, my 2018 Challenger Scat Pack was like $42.5k sticker and i paid just over $40k out the door.
Was that is 2018. Because since late 2020 that price would be impossible.
In 2018 I paid 36,500 for my brand new 300s
“If you paid over MSRP you’ll get your car for sure”…..”We’re building MSRP cars first just in case we run out of time”
Hmm….math aint mathing. Yes i have a Demon on order and yes i’m pissed. Lol
Dodge has failed quite often lately…the Hornet, EV Charger, and stopping the crazy markups. I’m sure they are not done sailing the failboat!
The last combustion Dodge Challenger in a era that's about to die that's so happens to have over 1k horoscopes making it the fastest challenger ever made 🤔 If I had one i would mark that damn thing up to 1 Million dollars.
Bet they will resell for close to 1 million in a few years
@@RTLife Good Long term hold investment 👍
well...Demon 170 has fastest 0-60
and cheaper than Lamborghini, Ferrari, McLaren, Bugatti and other hyper cars...
true, it's also limited so the value should really skyrocket. That said - it's a very 1 dimensional where as the other rides you listed can do it all.
Good I hope they get as much as they want.If you don’t like it don’t buy it it’s simple stop crying about it.
lol who is buying these?!
People with a lot of $$$
250k for a dodge lol. No dodge is worth triple digits. Unless it’s a vintage Black Ghost
Remember the corvette zR1. Same thing lots of mark up. Now they did not stay up and anyone that bought one I suspect lost lots!
I'm so glad and grateful that I bought my 19 dodge challenger hellcat redeye used with 11,000 miles all original one owner in 2021 for $70k
No way you would get a deal like that now a days. Crazy how fast these car prices are going up
Well they need to talk to the district attorney and start filing lawsuits for price fixing... When the shit hits the fan and interest rates are going up and the economy starts taking turn down with new digital currency changes they are going to be stuck with a lot of vehicles..
really sad.................. dealers greed is real. this is how loyalty to the brand goes away!! I own 1970 plymouth road runner, 2005 SRT10, 2018 dodge demon, 2022 TRX. And i have a allocation for the 170, but i cant see myself being able to afford 150% mark up on the 170 Demon. Im super bitter about this!! Super disappointed, never been more pisst over a car in my life!!
Idk if they still have it but streetside classic has a 2022 hellcat challenger redeye selling for 132k. I lost my shit when I saw that price
119k Miami so that’s the price
My local dealer is at 300k
They have ordered 10
2 sold already etc
If people will pay it, dealers will mark it up. The problem is the buyers, not the dealers.
People are INSANE!!!!!
why do we even still have dealerships? I do not understand why we are forced to go thru dealerships to get this Demon.
thank god I have 2 different challenger's maybe in the future they will be wayyyy worth more then I bought them for. P.S. we met on the road in NY-Li the one u saw that I have is a bass-machine (no back seat just subs) white challanger r/t+
I bet if you kept them in great shape, it will happen. A lot of people will want to get into them down the road
@@RTLife fact if need be I'll get minor detailing done to keep them nice (+plus full maintenance) but yeah, the x abandoned one of the challengers due to lacking in life skills (thank God she gone)
Where are you getting the information you displayed on the chart showing a 4 door electric or I6 turbo Charger and a Challenger EV or I6?
I have turned down 3 allocations over 100k they will find out these so called buyers will be backing out sooner than they all think .
The Demon 1 resales are still strong...just saw a 2016 Hellcat with 23k mi sell on a big auction for $46,000...( and I bet that the first owner paid $90,000 to be one of the first)...the market will always find its own level...
Im done with Dodge not buying a Hornet ...
They're going to feel the pain once that new line up is official.
That is bullshit, no way in hell i would give 250000$ for one hell NO!!
same page as you. silly mark up!
The dealer thinking of 100k over in my area they have 6 170s coming
Why is everybody crying about markups, don't buy the damn car. Racer-x went ford. LOL.
That's crazy shit
agreed. Someone will pay for it to
I have a wrecked 2012 Police pursuit 83k miles, the backend is wiped out the rear is good but it's totaled I don't know what to do with the car I want to keep it but fixing it is going to cost a lot 😢
I've seen a gt charger in my area hear in Ms going for 54k don't know if it was fully loaded but it AWD and a sunroof
cRaZy world we're living in!
@@RTLife a week later I went to another dodge dealer and saw a hemi charger and it was 10k cheaper than the gt and both were 22s
We sold our allocation 15 minutes after the store opened that day. One guy wanted to think about the 50k markup. Two minutes later a different sales person took the deposit and sold it to the guy that bought our previous Demon.
Haha Wow Dodge did a great job at creating new suckers.
Dealership I deal with has 7 allocations. They're marking up 150k. Dodge has got to get these dealers under control, or it's going to ruin the brand further than theyve already been
As much as I like the dodge product I believe that their mark ups should be against the law, Of course that goes for any company that sells a product. They should only be allowed a curtain percentage above the cost it takes to make it.
jsut get a 2015 hellcat and mod it...youll avoid the inflation
I bought a 2018 Scat Pack loaded new for around $38k back 4 or 5 years ago.
That's a great deal. Crazy how fast times have changed
It’s called supply and demand
$200,000 for a dodge when 2800 are being built how is that rare
No way I'd pay $50k for a V6 Charger/Challenger. I can get a Mustang GT or Camaro SS for that
This price gouging should be illegal
It's reaching crazy levels
Why? It’s a business. No one is forcing anyone to buy these cars. It’s not a necessity like food, water, or gas. Now that would be different. Now if there was price fixing and collusion, then I’d agree with you.
I just hate that there's nothing special on any of them anymore. As in that 392 badge inside under the ac vent. That should be something that's held for hellcat or higher trim. But not you could probly get a gt with a gr badge there lol. Nothing makes any model different from the others besides the power train basically. Where as before you could easily tell each model by specific aesthetics. Now you can probly get a sxt or gt that's more luxurious than a hellcat. I understand that's kind of nice for people who can't afford or don't want the higher end models but it just annoys me personally. A fully optioned 392 shouldn't be more nice than a base model hellcat in my opinion. And same for the rest. People also need to stop buying so the prices can come down
I didnt know you lived in my area... But yeah got some notifs about the Demons and theyre ridiculous. Or even up for a kind of auction. Though I want to be mad about the pricing but its not like normal hard working people can afford them.
I definitely won’t be buying one😂 I already pushed my limit with the redeye, and with all the modifications.. it’s terrible that the dealers do that to the people that been supporting them for all the years🤦♂️
No way Anyone should pay that much over MSRP simply ridiculous.
This is why i sold my SRTs. Dodge, for no reason, just fcked their brand.
Gonna get that Dark Horse soon, and im gonna pay cash.
Its the end of the road for these guys, they may not even be able to provide replacement parts for these cars going forward.
Just go buy a 12-14 SRT8. I paid 30k for one with 23k miles, fully loaded with red leather, sunroof, Harman Kardon, 6 speed manual. I'm building it up, and with 30k extra going into it, I'll be much happier than I would be with any hellcat or demon...
Nice! great deals are becoming hard to find lately
@R/T Life I drove 5 hours to get it. Long story, but I found a 2011 with 27k miles for 25,000, got the loan and was going to pick up the car, and the dealership sold it from under me AFTER I had already been approved. It worked out tho. Found a better car that already had 500rwhp for 5k more
Dealerships that do this should loose there license to sale cars anymore.
Sad how they just remove the window stickers and stick their marked up printouts on the window instead.
crazy right?! These cars have gotten so out of control price wise
If we don't pay it then they won't charge it, simple as that.
They can keep them too
The crazy part is no new design lol
the prices are ridiculous
Well. Here we are. Dodge is set to roll out it's fleet of ev's, and the only V8 left will be 250k. That's what it's going to look like in 2 years. And the used market will follow. So you will drive your electric car pleb, and you will like it.
Bill Luke Chrysler Jeep Dodge RAM in Arizona is selling scats $100k I recommend everyone in the comments searches them up and check their inventory they are doing markups on crack 😂
Watching it a second time and it's still angering me. I forgot to comment the first time.
All good! Thank you swinging back around to this video. Hope all is good on your end
I’m not understanding how they’re able to get away with this. It’s illegal
Supply & demand. If no one buys it, the prices will drop