There are a bunch of command that can be combined, and I believe the phraseology you're asking about is one of the possible combinations. I've not used the sim in a few months now, so I can't swear that it will work, but I think it will.
Subscribed and Following these very helpful tips! I couldn't find the apx files you made for LAX, I find it hard enjoying with lack of real world fixes etc. Hear from you soon and continue educating!
Thank you Mark for sharing this and your other vids. A tremendous help for me as a TRACON beginner to understand some procedures and also some sim specific changes to real life. Extremely helpful! As you state below you had not touched this product for quite some time: have you found an alternative? That would be interesting to know. Also: if you are aware of any source for updated sector data (as some procedures for example for LAX have changed) I would be happy if you could share them with me (per PN if you like).
Hi, thx for the tutorial. You mentioned something about holding a button or something to talk. Do u have to purchase a certain type of head set for the voice recognition or are u able to speak directly to the mic of the computer. This is all new to me. I didn't even know these games existed. I play another ATC game but nothing like what I have seen here.
Thank you for having these tutorials!! How did you install the real traffic? I have the Steam version and when I tried to simply copy and over-write the files, it doesn't appear to work.
Mark these are awesome tutorials! Thank you. I've been looking at this, ATC Pro and a couple of tower programs. In your opinion which tower and radar program are the most realistic? I'm a previous Air Traffic Controller who worked in the tower and Tracon. Miss the experience.
Thank you for your response. One more question, is Tower! 3D the most realistic tower program. I'm looking to purchase both a tower and Tracon program.
How does this game works on windows 10? Every time when I start the game it crashes and goes back to desktop. I have real traffic and EHAM sector in it.
Actual radar scopes have symbols that are missing from Tracon! 2012 and other ATC simulators. For example: ruclips.net/video/vULlGBIh2CY/видео.html shows lines with small circles at on end, elongated "T's" , and "X's" Searching the web has been fruitless in obtaining an explanation for these overlays. Do you have an answer?
OMG! OMG! I went looking on RUclips for videos of the old Wesson Tracon/Tracon II that I used to play back in the '90s... and I ran into this video! I may have to get this! How does this one work compared to those older ones... what I mean is control and gameplay wise? I tried to play other newer ATC simulators, but they seemed more difficult and geared to actual controllers. Loved the originals, and this looks interesting....
It's compares very favorably to those early ATC games from the 90's -- it's a little more accurate, and bit more difficult -- but it's quite a bit of fun and a real feeling of accomplishment when you master a sector.
Great video! But I don't seem to be able to bring up the route on the screen. I push Ctrl+5 but nothing happens. I've tried left or right clicking on the Flight's box or Data Box but nothing happens. Could you explain in better detail how to bring up a flight's route whether it be a SID or a STAR? Thanks in advance.
+Dale Bachman Dale -- sorry, but I haven't run this sim in a couple of years now. Your best bet is to try the FeelThere product support forum here: forum.simflight.com/forum/170-atc-simulators/
+Mark, Thanks for the quick reply. I'm still trying to comprehend the manual and checking the forum. It does look like I may indeed, need go thru the link you provided. Thanks again!
Hi Mark, I've been looking at Gaming PC's for ATC Pro and Tower 3D. Did you purchase a gaming PC for these programs? Any suggestions? Right now I have a fairly powerful desktop, but it only has 6 gig RAM and i believe I need 8 or more, especially If I want to load both ATC Pro & Tower 3D.
I cannot really advise you on this in terms of what the minimum workable config might be. My desktop was configured as a moderately-high-end system before I installed any of the various ATC sims I've tried. I'm running with 16GB of memory and a Nvidia GTX 980Ti graphics card. That's way overkill for just at ATC sim.
Mark, how did you put real airlines and real airplanes in your version of Tracon 2012? I would like to get rid of the Micky Mouse planes and airlines my version has.
@Brian Clark: It's been such a long time since I ran Tracon 2012 that I just do not remember. It *probably* came from one of the "real traffic" add-ons -- but I truly don't remember for sure. You might ask in the FeelThere forum.
Hi Mark, I am a newbie at this game and i find your videos very useful. However i can't seem to find your asx files so i can use. Could you upload a new link to download the asx files for it please? thank you
I was long-ago asked by the publisher to remove any custom files I'd linked. Further, I've not played this game for years and years -- there is a much better ATC simulation (ATC Pro) available.
Unfortunately, I can't distribute them. FeelThere considers the file proprietary. You can watch my video on how to edit the waypoint file and add them yourself though.
halbi1234 You move the datablocks ("labels") with either the middle mouse or right mouse button (it's been many months since I ran the simulation, so I can't remember which it is).
Really like your videos but I hate this game. Your advice is really good but the game needs a walk-through/tutorial. The game crashed my PC and i have had to load it several times. It also does not recognize my speech recog software. Any other games similar to this that you would recommend?
When they make a game like this why don't they consult with the people who know how they do it in real life to make it a more realistic simulation? It seems like with a very few tweaks it could be a really authentic simulation.
Commercial aircraft are supposed to be pronounced together, supposed to say Southwest sixty eight seventy three, instead of six eight seven three Also, it’s unrealistic for the planes to report they have the ATIS information letter, that isn’t necessary information and I don’t see why they did that
Made it halfway through the video without realizing I had the video set to 1.5 speed. I was like damn this guy is a pro
Just acquired Tracon 2012 today. Loving your tutorial videos, Mark. Thanks for taking your time.
There are a bunch of command that can be combined, and I believe the phraseology you're asking about is one of the possible combinations. I've not used the sim in a few months now, so I can't swear that it will work, but I think it will.
Where can i find "Tracon! 2012 simulator"?
You're a wonderful man Mark! Video - nicely done!
Subscribed and Following these very helpful tips! I couldn't find the apx files you made for LAX, I find it hard enjoying with lack of real world fixes etc. Hear from you soon and continue educating!
Thank you Mark for sharing this and your other vids. A tremendous help for me as a TRACON beginner to understand some procedures and also some sim specific changes to real life. Extremely helpful! As you state below you had not touched this product for quite some time: have you found an alternative? That would be interesting to know. Also: if you are aware of any source for updated sector data (as some procedures for example for LAX have changed) I would be happy if you could share them with me (per PN if you like).
Hi, thx for the tutorial. You mentioned something about holding a button or something to talk. Do u have to purchase a certain type of head set for the voice recognition or are u able to speak directly to the mic of the computer. This is all new to me. I didn't even know these games existed. I play another ATC game but nothing like what I have seen here.
Hi mate I'm very new to this type of game been playing tower 3d pro. My question is what key do I press to give voice commands.
Please tell me how do I see the sid and the star in the game? Tank you !
Great tutorial Mark.
Thank you for having these tutorials!!
How did you install the real traffic? I have the Steam version and when I tried to simply copy and over-write the files, it doesn't appear to work.
Mark these are awesome tutorials! Thank you. I've been looking at this, ATC Pro and a couple of tower programs. In your opinion which tower and radar program are the most realistic? I'm a previous Air Traffic Controller who worked in the tower and Tracon. Miss the experience.
At this moment, I think ATC Pro is the most realistic.
Thank you for your response. One more question, is Tower! 3D the most realistic tower program. I'm looking to purchase both a tower and Tracon program.
That's the only tower sim I've ever tried, so I don't have any other points of comparison. As I recall, it was just "OK".
Thank You!
How does this game works on windows 10? Every time when I start the game it crashes and goes back to desktop. I have real traffic and EHAM sector in it.
Just started trying to figure it out. The Tab key is voice key. The problem is the program is recognizing my voice, but the flights aren’t.
has anyone run into display problems with white or brown colored boxes blocking out vital information?
Actual radar scopes have symbols that are missing from Tracon! 2012 and other ATC simulators. For example: ruclips.net/video/vULlGBIh2CY/видео.html shows lines with small circles at on end, elongated "T's" , and "X's" Searching the web has been fruitless in obtaining an explanation for these overlays. Do you have an answer?
Can you make an arrival and departure series for las or mia?
Many of the departures have since changed numbers. For instance, SEBBY7 is now SEBBY8. AirNav.com: www.airnav.com/airport/klax
Not unexpected at all. All procedures are subject to periodic revision.
OMG! OMG! I went looking on RUclips for videos of the old Wesson Tracon/Tracon II that I used to play back in the '90s... and I ran into this video! I may have to get this! How does this one work compared to those older ones... what I mean is control and gameplay wise? I tried to play other newer ATC simulators, but they seemed more difficult and geared to actual controllers. Loved the originals, and this looks interesting....
It's compares very favorably to those early ATC games from the 90's -- it's a little more accurate, and bit more difficult -- but it's quite a bit of fun and a real feeling of accomplishment when you master a sector.
in TRACON 2012 can you do a command like "United 123 turn left heading XXX, descend and maintain XXX" without making it 2 commands?
Great video! But I don't seem to be able to bring up the route on the screen. I push Ctrl+5 but nothing happens. I've tried left or right clicking on the Flight's box or Data Box but nothing happens. Could you explain in better detail how to bring up a flight's route whether it be a SID or a STAR? Thanks in advance.
+Dale Bachman
Dale -- sorry, but I haven't run this sim in a couple of years now. Your best bet is to try the FeelThere product support forum here: forum.simflight.com/forum/170-atc-simulators/
+Mark, Thanks for the quick reply. I'm still trying to comprehend the manual and checking the forum. It does look like I may indeed, need go thru the link you provided. Thanks again!
Hi Mark, I've been looking at Gaming PC's for ATC Pro and Tower 3D. Did you purchase a gaming PC for these programs? Any suggestions? Right now I have a fairly powerful desktop, but it only has 6 gig RAM and i believe I need 8 or more, especially If I want to load both ATC Pro & Tower 3D.
I cannot really advise you on this in terms of what the minimum workable config might be. My desktop was configured as a moderately-high-end system before I installed any of the various ATC sims I've tried. I'm running with 16GB of memory and a Nvidia GTX 980Ti graphics card. That's way overkill for just at ATC sim.
Thank you again, sir.
How do you know which frequency to hand the planes off to? Is that in the manual once you download it?
Yes, as I recall. I've not played this in years, but that's what I remember. There is a chart/diagram in the manual with frequencies for each sector.
Mark Hargrove Thanks! This ATC stuff is addictive!😎
Michael Sookochoff: it is -- and when you get done with this one check out ATC Pro -- far more realistic and challenging.
Mark, how did you put real airlines and real airplanes in your version of Tracon 2012? I would like to get rid of the Micky Mouse planes and airlines my version has.
@Brian Clark: It's been such a long time since I ran Tracon 2012 that I just do not remember. It *probably* came from one of the "real traffic" add-ons -- but I truly don't remember for sure. You might ask in the FeelThere forum.
Thanks for getting back to me Mark. I went to the FeelThere website and found the add on and downloaded it. Very happy with my real planes now :)
Hi Mark,
I am a newbie at this game and i find your videos very useful. However i can't seem to find your asx files so i can use. Could you upload a new link to download the asx files for it please?
thank you
I was long-ago asked by the publisher to remove any custom files I'd linked. Further, I've not played this game for years and years -- there is a much better ATC simulation (ATC Pro) available.
Mark Hargrove ok. Thank you
Good video but it needs massive volume boost.
how do you move radar screen ?
Click and drag with the middle mouse button.
where can we download ur set of waypoints? great vid btw ;)
Unfortunately, I can't distribute them. FeelThere considers the file proprietary. You can watch my video on how to edit the waypoint file and add them yourself though.
Mark Hargrove ok thanks. another question: how do u move the aircrafts labels? what do i have to click?? i cant move them -.-
halbi1234 You move the datablocks ("labels") with either the middle mouse or right mouse button (it's been many months since I ran the simulation, so I can't remember which it is).
Really like your videos but I hate this game. Your advice is really good but the game needs a walk-through/tutorial.
The game crashed my PC and i have had to load it several times. It also does not recognize my speech recog software. Any other games similar to this that you would recommend?
thank you
here's the LOOP 6 SID:
Cool! Thank you!
When they make a game like this why don't they consult with the people who know how they do it in real life to make it a more realistic simulation? It seems like with a very few tweaks it could be a really authentic simulation.
Commercial aircraft are supposed to be pronounced together, supposed to say Southwest sixty eight seventy three, instead of six eight seven three
Also, it’s unrealistic for the planes to report they have the ATIS information letter, that isn’t necessary information and I don’t see why they did that
15 minutes in and I have a pretty long list of why this is a garbage simulator.