I just got into oleds 2years ago. Man, things are moving quickly these days, arent they?. New better oleds coming, new rgb mini-led lcds, new qdel tech and micro-oleds. So much to get excited about. Golden era of display tech. What a time to be alive!
No, not really considering OLED TVs came out in 2015. MicroLED has existed as a prototype since before then, and we've had "the wall" type panels that no one could afford or have in their homes for a while now. QDEL is interesting, but we won't see an actual affordable TV (*if they choose to pursue one) for at least six years away minimum. The other panel technologies will be similar. Right now, we just have access to new information much faster than we previously did, but the time to develop will be just as long, if not longer than previous panel technologies.
@@Neonmirrorblack i hear you. But heres where I think youre wrong. The chinese are pushing innovation quickly. Theyre beating the koreans and japanese asses. And the koreans are already in tight competition with each other. We werent suppose to see MLA so quickly, but QD-Oled happened to be great. Now theyre already ditching it for a new thing. Thats so friggin quick. Now add to that the pressure from market gain for the chinese mini-LED-s with quantum dots aggressively matching OLED-s black levels and color saturation. And they havent really started producing oleds yet. And then just this month we got the news that we can buy micro-leds under 10 000$. Experience shows that weve been wrong about these "coming maybe after 5years or so" predictions. No man can predict the future. Also to me 165hz OLED Tv-s with 2000nits seems insane. My first tv was a 2011 panasonic plasma with 60hz, 1080p. I bought an overclockable lcd monitor for 500$ in 2013, to get 110hz, lol. Were so spoiled these days with displays. Golden age, I stand by that. And supposedly the oled tv-s can already do 500hz, its just locked in software, held back for future profits. Meanwhile 500hz pc monitors are already a thing.
At the current Silicium wafer prices, they should consider a new business branch for graphene production or carbon nano tube wafers. I really don't see cheap products with those skyrocketing wafer costs.
With this tech making an 8k versus 4k would be fairly trivial. Hopefully we are talking about 100" 8k micro LED TV's in 4-5 years for 20k. Not that I could afford that but it's the kind of halo product that would signal smaller sizes are coming.
I don't understand why manufacturers keep pushing sizes above 75 inch. The average person is looking at sizes 55 inch to 75 inch, and THAT'S where manufacturers need to focus their efforts on.
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My ideal TV would be one that is reliable and doesn't burn in or have the picture degrade after a few years, can get fairly bright (at least 1000 nits), has accurate colors / HDR, minimal input lag for gaming, has a refresh rate of at least 120hz, has a wide viewing angle with minimal ghosting or other artifacts, and doesn't require an account or internet connection for all features to work. I would actually prefer a "dumb" TV over the bloated smart TVs that are on the market. Hopefully micro LED TVs will be closer to my ideal TV than current ones, but I am not counting on many "dumb" TVs to be released.
@@MichelleAlexandria-EM I picked up a TCL Q7 last year after seeing a video on this channel comparing it to the competition. I almost got a QM8 but the 7 was on sale for $350 less. I have been pretty impressed with it, with my only real complaints being the viewing angle and its performance when gaming at higher framerates. Hopefully this TV lasts longer than the OLED it replaced, and if it does I will likely get another TCL. I was very impressed with the newest tech they were showing off at CES.
This vid. gives me hope of snagging a better Tv display tech wise, sooner than later! Its a significant thing if "SmartKem" can make this process a lot more efficient. Thanks for the video! 11:30
@@stopthefomo i stay there every yr for Cinemacon. It drives me crazy. i go an entire week without seeing the outside and I can't get a reasonably priced breakfast
Thank you for that glimpse of the future. Could I ask a question please. What is more critical; improved (AI) upscaling/cleaning or improved microlevel video handling....? My feeling is that video handling/processing has improved far more than upscaling in recent months . Upscaling/cleaning is where the next step change is needed, then micro level processing/handling.
I think AI upscaling for improved motion resolution is critical because sports action is noticeably better when you improve motion resolution via better (AI) motion handling whether that's frame generation (Nvidia) or interpolation algorithms. We perceive improvements to size, brightness/contrast, color saturation and motion most acutely. Resolution upscaling/cleaning has diminishing returns beyond a certain point just as micro-level video handling. I agree that upscaling of dirty 720p broadcasts still need work
Come on the UK. Pushing boundaries again. But the government should open chip fabs here too !! Tech is obviously the future in many guises. Intelligence is always going to need investing in.
$62K is still too much bit.ly/4jxxUcp and this technology seeks to bring that down! Current 97" OLED is $21K so that would be almost 1/3 the price of the AWALL. Also, current microLED tiles cannot support 4K TVs smaller than 90" due to the smaller pitch requirement.
I would only ever consider buying a micro LED tv if they bring the price down to as you said a top spec OLED but more importantly, it would have to be one complete screen, not a screen made up of modules
@joshuaw2143 even if their claims are true, which I highly question as lithography is mainly used for tiny 18 inch disks, not 80 inch rectangles, it will still be way out of most people's price ranges for a long time. Plus he kinda waved off the heat and energy issues of microLED. Like a current 4K microLED used 2700w. That means you need 2 electrical lines running just to power your TV. That just won't be how the TVs will actually end up, not with energy ratings.
Using lithography? How exactly will that scale to full size TVs? Like silicon wafers are only around 18 inch circles. It wouldn't even be able to make a gaming monitor. At best a phone display.
@Debanjanepiskey well yeah, but they made it sound like they had made some revolution that makes that irrelevant. Like personally I don't even think the modules are that bad an idea as you could just use the modules behind the glass or plastic panel rather than make the whole thing modular. But they made it sound like they almost mocked the idea of modular as a dead end.
X93L has natural skin tones out of the box but QM8 way better contrast/HDR impact - most people will prefer the skin tones when watching full screen TV shows and movies and in a bright room the X93L looks better HOWEVER, in a dark room or for gaming the QM8 is technically superior but cannot be calibrated to match the X93L so you choose your poison. For movies I'd take the X93L and gaming it's the QM851G
@@jonathane5675 I understood he said that it will be comparable in price to the high end TVs, so i imagine any new tech will be scaled accordingly regardless of size. It will be expensive. I am sure like all tech, prices will drop because of manufacturing adoption.
@@vi683a True, though with MicroLED it has always been the smaller the screen, the harder it is to produce (with high resolution). With most other display tech it has been the other way round for regular TV sizes.
this is monolitic microled. I think microfluidic self assembly microled is even better. Proponents of that manufacture model are developing ways to test blue led waffers before dicing them into chips ( with x rays i think)
TVs are near perfect for existing content - yes quibbles here and there. My take is don't spend too much now if lack huge amounts of disposable income , in 6 years you will have near perfect to just buy big. Other Blue Whale in the Pool is mini LEDS will get so good and cheap, will it be worth it - I'm sure more innovations here in black and near black performance to be eked out
@@Debanjanepiskey I would think so considering it’s such an expensive premium tv, all I know about it is what I’ve seen on channels like this one and reports from CES 2025
How are we defining the word “affordable”? When you’re display cost the amount of a luxury car it’s not affordable.. when your display cost as much as any car it’s not affordable. Especially not when you can buy a 98 inch TV for $1500 that’s affordable.
understood, but I've sadly noticed that the higher performing models from many brands no longer support 55" and below. On the other hand, people with big houses have big money to buy big TVs so maybe I should say "everybody with a big room wants 83"! Then you have Gen Z, my kids are happy watching on their iPads with zero interest in our TVs no matter the size so who knows where things go in 10 years when Gen Z start spending money?
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I just got into oleds 2years ago. Man, things are moving quickly these days, arent they?. New better oleds coming, new rgb mini-led lcds, new qdel tech and micro-oleds. So much to get excited about. Golden era of display tech. What a time to be alive!
@@nBasterd doesn't matter. They'll still be way out of anyone's price range for a few years even after they come to the market.
@Skylancer727 used marketplace fixes that. Plus clearance sales. Thats how ive bought my 3 oleds in the past 2years with -60% discount.
No, not really considering OLED TVs came out in 2015. MicroLED has existed as a prototype since before then, and we've had "the wall" type panels that no one could afford or have in their homes for a while now.
QDEL is interesting, but we won't see an actual affordable TV (*if they choose to pursue one) for at least six years away minimum.
The other panel technologies will be similar. Right now, we just have access to new information much faster than we previously did, but the time to develop will be just as long, if not longer than previous panel technologies.
@@Neonmirrorblack i hear you. But heres where I think youre wrong. The chinese are pushing innovation quickly. Theyre beating the koreans and japanese asses. And the koreans are already in tight competition with each other. We werent suppose to see MLA so quickly, but QD-Oled happened to be great. Now theyre already ditching it for a new thing. Thats so friggin quick. Now add to that the pressure from market gain for the chinese mini-LED-s with quantum dots aggressively matching OLED-s black levels and color saturation. And they havent really started producing oleds yet. And then just this month we got the news that we can buy micro-leds under 10 000$. Experience shows that weve been wrong about these "coming maybe after 5years or so" predictions. No man can predict the future.
Also to me 165hz OLED Tv-s with 2000nits seems insane. My first tv was a 2011 panasonic plasma with 60hz, 1080p. I bought an overclockable lcd monitor for 500$ in 2013, to get 110hz, lol. Were so spoiled these days with displays. Golden age, I stand by that. And supposedly the oled tv-s can already do 500hz, its just locked in software, held back for future profits. Meanwhile 500hz pc monitors are already a thing.
@@Neonmirrorblack i wrote a whole page in response, but this trash website deleted my comment again...
*I can't wait for this technology*
Fomo looks like you're doing this video in the shower with shower curtains behind you
I bet that polymer has some graphene for conductivity. This is a way better approach to micro led, holy smokes.
At the current Silicium wafer prices, they should consider a new business branch for graphene production or carbon nano tube wafers. I really don't see cheap products with those skyrocketing wafer costs.
We shall see
Awsome video, i love micro , mini led and 8k tvs
This was very interesting, thanks
Looking forward to seeing their progress!
Amazing stuff, seriously!
Call me a skeptic. I will believe it when I see it. The title of the video is misleading. They have not done anything yet.
me too but gotta give it up for smaller companies that are still trying to solve this problem
Call me an optimist. I'll believe it BEFORE I see it!
Listen, you may want to watch this again.... b/c it sure sounds like they have something going through process with a partner in Taiwan?
AWal has a 75 inch Micro led with 1.2 pixel pitch for $8,000.00
Its coming. Just gonna take a little time. I'm looking forward to it
One question: You said there will be a dedicated Hisense Event soon. Do you know when that will be? Thanx
No exact date given, but likely sometime in March/April
With this tech making an 8k versus 4k would be fairly trivial. Hopefully we are talking about 100" 8k micro LED TV's in 4-5 years for 20k.
Not that I could afford that but it's the kind of halo product that would signal smaller sizes are coming.
Wow! Sounds like awesome tech! LET'S GO!!!!!!
I don't understand why manufacturers keep pushing sizes above 75 inch.
The average person is looking at sizes 55 inch to 75 inch, and THAT'S where manufacturers need to focus their efforts on.
You can get a 98 Inch TCL QM8 for $3,000 right now or a 98 Inch QM7 for $2k
This is a fantastic video.
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Could this be done with UV QD-LEDs?
It needs to get up and resolution and needs to be up to 4K
My ideal TV would be one that is reliable and doesn't burn in or have the picture degrade after a few years, can get fairly bright (at least 1000 nits), has accurate colors / HDR, minimal input lag for gaming, has a refresh rate of at least 120hz, has a wide viewing angle with minimal ghosting or other artifacts, and doesn't require an account or internet connection for all features to work. I would actually prefer a "dumb" TV over the bloated smart TVs that are on the market. Hopefully micro LED TVs will be closer to my ideal TV than current ones, but I am not counting on many "dumb" TVs to be released.
get yourself a TCL QM8
@@MichelleAlexandria-EM I picked up a TCL Q7 last year after seeing a video on this channel comparing it to the competition. I almost got a QM8 but the 7 was on sale for $350 less. I have been pretty impressed with it, with my only real complaints being the viewing angle and its performance when gaming at higher framerates. Hopefully this TV lasts longer than the OLED it replaced, and if it does I will likely get another TCL. I was very impressed with the newest tech they were showing off at CES.
This vid. gives me hope of snagging a better Tv display tech wise, sooner than later!
Its a significant thing if "SmartKem" can make this process a lot more efficient.
Thanks for the video! 11:30
Are you at Ceaser's? That curtain looks familiar.
ROFL yes we were! I like this hotel best for CES due to proximity and gym and food options!
@@stopthefomo i stay there every yr for Cinemacon. It drives me crazy. i go an entire week without seeing the outside and I can't get a reasonably priced breakfast
Hope on the horizon!
Thank you for that glimpse of the future. Could I ask a question please.
What is more critical; improved (AI) upscaling/cleaning or improved microlevel video handling....?
My feeling is that video handling/processing has improved far more than upscaling in recent months . Upscaling/cleaning is where the next step change is needed, then micro level processing/handling.
I think AI upscaling for improved motion resolution is critical because sports action is noticeably better when you improve motion resolution via better (AI) motion handling whether that's frame generation (Nvidia) or interpolation algorithms. We perceive improvements to size, brightness/contrast, color saturation and motion most acutely. Resolution upscaling/cleaning has diminishing returns beyond a certain point just as micro-level video handling. I agree that upscaling of dirty 720p broadcasts still need work
Come on the UK. Pushing boundaries again. But the government should open chip fabs here too !! Tech is obviously the future in many guises. Intelligence is always going to need investing in.
company called AWALL already have a 108" video wall with a .9 pitch for 8000 dollars right now my bro!
Nah. That specific video wall is $62,999 retail on their website right now.
$62K is still too much bit.ly/4jxxUcp and this technology seeks to bring that down! Current 97" OLED is $21K so that would be almost 1/3 the price of the AWALL. Also, current microLED tiles cannot support 4K TVs smaller than 90" due to the smaller pitch requirement.
Your best video to date!
Has that QM6k arrived yet?
STILL WAITING 😭
I would only ever consider buying a micro LED tv if they bring the price down to as you said a top spec OLED but more importantly, it would have to be one complete screen, not a screen made up of modules
Wow great content 👍
Will the USA be paying 25% more for T.Vs soon?
You voted for it.
Did you check out AWALL?
Yes, stop the ‘Stop the FOMO’… AWALL is bringing this OUT in the 1st quarter!
I'll take a 42 inch version 8k, 1000hz. Please make it a rgb subpixel layout. Muchas gracias senor!
Im still waiting for long Time now for a 42 inch mini LED TV with Quantum Dot and ips Panel.
I love it!
Like I said on my on-stream comment, I'm holding out for microled lol. You ALL laughed at me lol
YES, I did! It will still be a few years out but this looks promising for sure
@joshuaw2143 even if their claims are true, which I highly question as lithography is mainly used for tiny 18 inch disks, not 80 inch rectangles, it will still be way out of most people's price ranges for a long time.
Plus he kinda waved off the heat and energy issues of microLED. Like a current 4K microLED used 2700w. That means you need 2 electrical lines running just to power your TV. That just won't be how the TVs will actually end up, not with energy ratings.
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Using lithography? How exactly will that scale to full size TVs? Like silicon wafers are only around 18 inch circles. It wouldn't even be able to make a gaming monitor. At best a phone display.
I mean, aren't micro led TVs already a combination of smaller modules?
I don't believe it's size limited because higher yields should allow for monolithic sizes but we'll see in a year how it's progressing
@Debanjanepiskey well yeah, but they made it sound like they had made some revolution that makes that irrelevant. Like personally I don't even think the modules are that bad an idea as you could just use the modules behind the glass or plastic panel rather than make the whole thing modular. But they made it sound like they almost mocked the idea of modular as a dead end.
Yo yo !! FOMO what’s better 93L sony or QM8 851G? I got the 851G and the football is lagging when they throw it help me ..?
X93L has natural skin tones out of the box but QM8 way better contrast/HDR impact - most people will prefer the skin tones when watching full screen TV shows and movies and in a bright room the X93L looks better HOWEVER, in a dark room or for gaming the QM8 is technically superior but cannot be calibrated to match the X93L so you choose your poison. For movies I'd take the X93L and gaming it's the QM851G
@@stopthefomowhat about for sports like a football , so tracking because I don’t want the football lagging?
93L?
So, when you say "affordable" how much $$$ money are we talking about for more popular sizes such as 55 to 75 inch tvs?
7:05 - 7:15
@@vi683a That's only 83" size, it's bigger than most people get and also at $6k not affordable for many.
@@jonathane5675 I understood he said that it will be comparable in price to the high end TVs, so i imagine any new tech will be scaled accordingly regardless of size. It will be expensive.
I am sure like all tech, prices will drop because of manufacturing adoption.
@@vi683a True, though with MicroLED it has always been the smaller the screen, the harder it is to produce (with high resolution). With most other display tech it has been the other way round for regular TV sizes.
@@kadajawi2 Interesting information. I will have to read some more into MicroLed and production obstacles.
Thanks.
Microled monitor 27-32" 4k?
Wait very more then 10 yeas for this!
@Nonspecies more like 20-30....
@ This is maybe more realistic.
this is monolitic microled. I think microfluidic self assembly microled is even better. Proponents of that manufacture model are developing ways to test blue led waffers before dicing them into chips ( with x rays i think)
definitely need to eliminate tiles
how was it in the Beginning by OLED? The World first working Model was cost by 20000$. So..... !
TVs are near perfect for existing content - yes quibbles here and there. My take is don't spend too much now if lack huge amounts of disposable income , in 6 years you will have near perfect to just buy big.
Other Blue Whale in the Pool is mini LEDS will get so good and cheap, will it be worth it - I'm sure more innovations here in black and near black performance to be eked out
One day = 20 years from now?
Makes you proud to be British.
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We are too close....Like the donkey trying to reach the carrot.....
LOL we need a stick to go with that carrot too!
Until the next holy grail comes around. lol.
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So, can we expect to see consumer ready micro led TVs in 2027?
I'm thinking 2030 if BOE or TCL picks this up
Hisense 163 micro LED this year if you have the money
@ Will the 163 version have all four HDMI ports 2.1?
@@Debanjanepiskey I would think so considering it’s such an expensive premium tv, all I know about it is what I’ve seen on channels like this one and reports from CES 2025
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How are we defining the word “affordable”? When you’re display cost the amount of a luxury car it’s not affordable.. when your display cost as much as any car it’s not affordable. Especially not when you can buy a 98 inch TV for $1500 that’s affordable.
Everyone loves 83 inch no.
Saldy not.
Some of us do not have a house big enough to fit a TV that size.
understood, but I've sadly noticed that the higher performing models from many brands no longer support 55" and below. On the other hand, people with big houses have big money to buy big TVs so maybe I should say "everybody with a big room wants 83"! Then you have Gen Z, my kids are happy watching on their iPads with zero interest in our TVs no matter the size so who knows where things go in 10 years when Gen Z start spending money?
@@stopthefomo I know ;(
my perfect size is 48inch, but i had to change my house layout to even fit a 55 inch LG G4
The joys of the uk houses.
Hello fomo
hey richard!
he sounds British they have literally invented everything first , pioneers.
It’s a UK company based in Manchester