How Western Courts Worked - Crusader Kings III DOCUMENTARY
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- Опубликовано: 29 авг 2024
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Kings and Generals historical animated documentary series on the history of the medieval era continues with a video on how the Western courts worked during the Middle Ages, as we talk about the courts of Kingdoms of England, France, Republic of Venice, Holy Roman Empire and the Eastern Roman Empire.
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Heck yeah!
Why don't you use Total War battle scenes any more
They added some really good visual imagination and made the entire experience more wholesome
My favorite game make and my favorite channel ❤️
And now you should make some cooperation with ThrashingMadPL and make analog video on Eastern European early feudalism (the one between year 906 when Moravia has fallen and 1502 when paesants were turned into moder slaves by Statute of Piotrkow and analog laws in Russia).
ThrashingMadPL makes good videos on the topic, while you can reach english speaking audience.
Thanks for explaining how to change it to English, I'm Spanish but I personally prefer the voice in English
We're back! maybe we should make a tradition out of sponsoring K&G for all our CK3 releases. What do you think?
yes
Fund Putin's invasion instead. He is emulating Rurik the Great
Yes please.
Yes please
Yes
The Venetian election process makes both the Roman and Athenian systems look juvenile.
Indeed, the athenians drew lots to chose a good portion of their representatives as to avoid the evils of populism, the romans required 10 years of military experience to even enter into politics and the venetians "let's find a random boy and draw lots again and again and again until we get a good name" lol
Bit weird though that they in this complicated system just grabbed the first boy they'll find at the town square to facilitate the voting. One would expect they had a system for boy-chosing as well...
@@victorcapel2755 Right, what if the boy was some kind of plant. Seems a little overboard honesty.
You could say they know the mistakes of both and try to avoid them.
Could you guys please do more stuff like this? I find government and societal structures to be an extremely interesting topic.
Just finished watching. Excellent video. Impatiently waiting on the next one
for me it is usually boring...but Kings and Generals makes it in such a way...that I just love it.
And also does anyone have book recommendations on this stuff??!
Highly agree!
Like Mitchell, I would also be very appreciative of book suggestions on the topic, if someone knowledgable happens to read this thread. I read the Time Travellers Guide to Medieval England recently, a fantastic book for an eyes-on-the-ground perspective on various aspects of medieval English society, which may also be a good read for people in this thread :)
@@andershusmo5235 I love Mortimer's books! If you've not already, have a look at Dan Jones too :)
In Aragon (Spain) there was a curious tradition: whenever a new king (or queen) was crowned, the nobles would give the crown after reciting this:
“Nos, que somos y valemos tanto como vos, pero juntos más que vos, os hacemos Principal, Rey y Señor entre los iguales, con tal que guardéis nuestros fueros y libertades; y si no, no”
"We, which are and worth as much as thee, but together more than thee, make thee our Leader, King and Sire amongst equals, as long as you guard our feudal laws and liberties; and otherwise not."
The Venetian Election system was the most confusing thing I have seen since the Krebs Cycle
Can't argue with the results though.
@@stephenkenney8290 right
@@stephenkenney8290 how do you think they even came up with that system
@@JOGA_Wills they looked at the Krebs cycle
But in all seriousness maybe inspired by by ancient bureaucracies like Babylon/Roma/Greece?
@@Napoleonic_S This is what I was wondering
Glad you did a sweep of a few different kingdoms from different regions, too often people will talk about "the middle ages" as if it was one big thing
Edit: also, THANK YOU! I finally kind of understand how the HRE worked!
"Kind of" being the key word for most of us.
@@dragatus Not even the HRE knew how the HRE worked
PDX knows where it's players go for historical content
*Paradox:* We've made an immersive Grand Strategy game where you guide your Noble House to greatness through the ages.
*Players:* Oh sweet, an incest simulator.
You say that as if those two are mutually exclusive.
Besides, incest can be a legitimate strategy in CK3. If you go with the noble bloodlines dynasty perk, and you marry within your own family, you actually get a double buff to inheriting good traits.
@@guccifer764 CK3 Players: Minmaxing Incest
@@guccifer764 which is yet another reason Dynasty Legacies (especially Blood) are completely fucked
@@minnumseerrund you mean cracked?
CK3: Turning Incest into Wincest
Pretty hyped for Crusader Kings III becoming more RPG
So many ideas running through my head about it, could be fun!!!
i haven't played that much yet but it seems pretty rpg as it is. Imo the rpg element should be a flavor not the main dish in Crusader kings
@@maxion5109 The whole point of the CK series is that it’s an RPG.
@@maxion5109 CK3 is not really a strategy game ala Total war or something. it is not a map painter like EU4, a social simulation like Victoria or a war game like HOI, it's a distinct RPG
CK is less what happens you give total way in-depth characters and more what happens when you put the sims on a map
That's its intention, that's its niche and it works well
@@BasicLib so a medieval Sims then. I get it. I have played about 260h Ck2 and there is also the grand strategy aspect. Diplomacy, economy and war. Of course those aspects are influenced by characters as well but it in ck2 it felt like i just needed to have a viable heir and the rest is more traditional strategy map painting, which i liked. total war is my favorite. Maybe ck3 more heavely Rpg then.
But i could be that i even tried to play ck2 in a total war way and overlooked the rpg to the detriment of my campaigns. Mainly the court and dynasty aspect, which i found random and complicated
The way you guys cover the minutae of medieval life is a pleasure to behold.
Okay, I definitely need to find some good literature on the history of Venice's state administration. I had no idea about any of those things, that is incredibly interesting.
I just found it really funny that the imperial diet really forced the participants to go on a diet if they failed to reach any consensus lol
a diet of worms
Is there any chance to talk more about the likes of Christian Spain, Scandinavia or the many states in Eastern Europe? I always feel like they are ignored in these discussions about administration in the middle ages.
I wonder what the equivalent comment to this one would the new Eastern Courts video's comment section have.
You have no business making videos of such insane quality. Wishing this channel the best of success
This is a unique video, however England is missing a crucially significant section: the revolutionary legal reforms of Henry II and the expansion on the royal power at the expense of the nobility, making England one of the most centralized kingdoms in Christendom. The rebellion of the barons against King John had much less to do with the efforts of William the Conqueror and almost everything to do with John’s unpopularity, failure abroad, and exponential expansion of the incredibly well-oiled administration forged by Henry II.
“… the later resentment of the Angevin system implicit in Magna Carta might have been fostered by Henry II’s mastery of men and government. Certainly many of the barons at Runnymede in 1215 saw John’s excesses as expansions of those of his father.”
Thomas K. Keefe, Henry II, Oxford Dictionary of National Biography, volume 26
Henry II is one of the most over-looked monarchs in Western European history, his usage of things such as Circuit Judges and the centralisation of English law is genuinely genius way of managing his vassals whom had basically become regional kings under the lax rule of King Stephen and the general chaos of the Anarchy.
I'm glad to read a comment from someone who knows about the administrative genius of Henry II.
@@greatalexander3820 One of the greatest monarchs in history to be sure, and perhaps even the greatest “king” all things considered, I think. How many monarchs can claim, without hyperbole, to have founded a legal system which daily and directly affects 1/3 of the modern world? Add to that political and administrative genius, which is a rare coupling, and an alluring personality and you’ve got a truly great king, one who’s reforms certainly deserved a mention in this video.
Yeah i was so looking forward to them covering the Baron Parliament of De Rochefort this is very disapointing
@@dirckthedork-knight1201 I think you mean Simon de Montfort's parliament of 1265
@@CommonSwindler YES!! that one!! I just got its name wrong thanks for correcting me
Found this channel day before yesterday & been binging on docs since 😂 🔥 stuck in the house today (bad ice storm overnight) and have the notifications on, this should be an interesting one 😎 I’m in the middle of watching the other Rome/Caesar docs anyways.
I just wanted to show love & give y’all your 💐
Will the Chinese and Muslim royal courts be part of the next video? I hope that will be the case because I would love to see how their courts operated!
I did see the Muslim court but not the Chinese I want to play as han China badly
@@shashwatbhattacharya9629 there is a mod called Asia expansion that lets you do that
@@gnanaganesh5937 China was much more historically centralised and powerful
@@trevorholland1500 the mod Chinese have a lot of buffs making them a bit unbalanced in my opinion
@@gnanaganesh5937 There was no point to do war with India, it was so far away (Himalayas) that it didn't make sense.
Kerala seems to be doing just fine. China's conflicts with neighbors primarily stem from US influence, not because it is Communist (see Laos and Vietnam).
China doesn't do preservation, that's really an obsession from Ming-era Han-centric conservatism as a response to foreigner rule. On the contrary, Chinese culture has always morphed and changed over the dynasties. Materials get better. It would be stupid to stick to wooden buildings with paper windows when concrete is just that much better.
As I am the King of England, I can attest that this is accurate.
Only for 6 months but a little better then your bother John.
I'm sorry to be the one updating you sir, but your distant ancestor Elizabeth has taken over your throne for almost a century now
Your father was much, much better.
@@CommonSwindler So much so that all his sons rebelled against him!
@@davyroger3773 His sons were rather like the children of a CEO or titan of industry who builds a company , or in Henry's case an empire, from the ground up. They are very aware of what they are "entitled" to but less aware of what ruling actually is. Richard was more worthy of his father than his brothers, but all in all none of the Angevin brothers were anything like as remarkably able as Henry II.
Also, to clarify... his "legitimate" sons rebelled at one time or another. That rather proves my point. His eldest child Geoffrey, who had no hope of inheriting anything other than his father's trust, was loyal to the end.
Great video! I hope you launch another one about the Spanish courts!
Iberian history getting neglected again, it is a bit disappointing tbh, because of the title I thought they would at least talk about Leon's "parliament".
I would happily watch a whole series on this. Best video I’ve watched in a long time!
That was a fantastic video!
I knew most of the things in broadscale theory, but it was interesting to see the details and how the courts differed from one another.
Love these types of video that delve into burocracy, tax & legal systems, trade etc…
First venetians be like:
"Sir I've added another election in the code of law, as you asked"
"more"
"Alright sir"
"More!"
"ok sir"
"MORE"
"Sir, I think we have enough"
"MOOOREE"
Time Stamps
0:00 Intro
1:25 Byzantine Empire
4:50 Venetian Republic
8:55 Holy Roman Empire
12:40 Kingdom of England
16:00 Kingdom of France
This is my favourite video in a long time, they're always good but this one was exceptional!
Us history Lovers are so excited for this game!!!! Can’t wait!
I checked your history channel out, you have a lot of potential to blow up. Keep working hard with the quality content!
You know.. this channel has evolved exponentially from the past few years. Their production value is such high quality and always providing such entertaining and informative content. I feel like Kings and Generals can even go up a notch by even producing short stories (not RUclips Shorts) of historical events. The level of effort and detail they put up with exceeds our expectations along with clips of action in animation.
This is really interesting! I'd love to see more videos on this topic. It would be cool to see how courts in the Middle East or India functioned as well.
You guys should make another part of Asian / Middle eastern / Indi American courts
Would be amazing to watch the Syrian/Egyptian/Hebrew/Chinese/Aztec way of governing.
If Crusader Kings III taught me anything, it's that succession inevitably leads to civil war.
That's why I purge my enemies every decade like Saddam husain
@@tla2119 how do you purge your sons?
@@prs_81 Kinda hard to do given murder plots take months to achieve. That is, unless you have debug mode active and you just kill them instantly, but that's no fun
@@widjiro The eldest survives, the rest imprisoned along with their children.
Never had a single problem with vassals or civil wars as long as i keep my personal domains small and the vassals happy by constantly giving them land while they provide me soldiers for further conquests where i'll give them more land. I don't care whom rules what as long as they do so under me and it just works lol
This is the type of content I subbed for . Battles are fine but can get repetitive.
Did RUclips, like, eat this video for breakfast? It claims it's only 41 seconds long and only plays that much. ._.
There is a bug. Working on fixing it
Fixed now
I am so early it feels illegal, love this channel and CK3! cant wait for the DLC already Pre-Purchased!
I love this channel!! Growing up playing dnd and seeing the wotc drawings of medieval weapons and armor in the core rulebooks of 3rd edition; it drew me to want to learn more about medieval society.
Sounds like the Prince by machiavelli
How so?
This is one of my favourite videos yet.
Could you do this for the Petty Kingdoms of Ireland?
They’re so underrepresented in these sorts of information videos!
If the Western courts were already this complicated affairs, can't imagine the Polish court after the extinction of the Jagellonids...
Oh no, no no no, we are sooooo not going there.
My knowledge of polish history ain’t great despite being of half polish descent. How bad are we talking?
@@connorgolden4 Country shattering bad :)
@@connorgolden4 Put it this way, the Polish really were a great power and if certain things were changed the masters of Eastern Europe could have been the Poles and not the Russians but after the end of the Jagiellonian dynasty they slowly became more and more economically backward and politically divided until they were literally wiped off the map and wouldn’t regain independence for for over 100 years
Superb videos....I fully enjoy them
Primero hay que destacar que hayan hecho el gran esfuerzo de traducir este documental al español..... Muy buen documental!!!
This was an awesome condensing of so much information. Well done. It must be a nightmare cutting your drafts down to size.
ck3 is probably the best strategic and historical games ever thx paradox
You said in the last video of the early Muslim expansion that more videos of the Muslim conquest would be released in late 2021, but it is 2022 and we haven't seen it yet...I have been waiting for it.
Αnother ,interesting subject presented with unique way ! S mall correction Venice was for 300 years Byzantine territory the only remaining in the Italian North ,when rest of north fall to Germanic Lombards, then became independent, powerful, and even exchange rolle with Byzantine s in the east even with ,not very healthy way ,last Venician lost territory s of Greece ,at 1797 ,and occasionally with the big assistance from Hellenic population claime from Ottomans land in Greek mainland, even retook for 30 years 1685 ,1715 whole Peloponnese from Ottomans with huge support from locals
why you put coma after space? it's weird
@@widjiro personal style
That Venice considered itself part of the Byzantine Empire into the 1100s and was Byzantium’s most loyal Vassal for hundreds of years is always ignored in every video mentioning Venice smh.
Wow, I love your channel and i absolutely love Ck3. Great collab.
More of this please
pure fascination ! Thanks, and more about medieval times please ! ^___^
This is great content. Seeing a well-produced documentary essentially using one of my favorite games for the map and art is like a dream come true lol. Reminds me of the old days of the History channel where they would use Rome: Total War to simulate battles
Hyped for the future royal court expansion, i remember there was also video on CK3 867 and 1066 in this channel
Such an amazing video I hope you can fix the bug of the video only been 41 seconds
Fixed now
@@KingsandGenerals Great! ty for letting me know
2:47 Okay but the Basileus' feet hanging off the chair just absolutely killed me!
Thanks for the video 👍🏻
Can't wait for next week
awesome, I was waiting for this since many years
This is an excellent video. Well done Kings & Generals. 🙌
I hope all these complex court and governing system will be applied to the game as well. Making it very interesting to play various nations. I like being a figurehead and just watch my empire tear itself apart. lol
There's where the big the difference between this video and the actual game starts. Every court will feel the same
Omg, I really love this narrator. 👏🏻
Edit: And of course I also really love these amazing episodes as well. Well done! 👏🏻
Wonderful video!! The detailed information, graphics, narration. All spot on!
I wish you guys could do it for the iberians and for the east europeans too! this was one of the most intresting videos ever!
Eh! im a big Fan of this Content, Thanks good Job man!
New CK3-related kings and generals videos are half the fun of new ck3 content
So good! Paradox please pump out DLCs faster my wallet is ready
Damn, I'm so early, I thought Charlemagne was the rebirth of the Western Empire
Very nice. Hope you'll do Portugal, Spain, Poland, Hungary, Teutonic Order, Scandinavia and Kievan Rus later!
Im reading some stuff about the eastern and islamic courts, It would be really interesting If you did something similar. We barely hear about the other courts besides european ones
Can you make a detailed video about Maharaja Ranjit Singh and his generals. Thanks.
Can you do a feature on how Renaissance Courts worked? thanks
I reccomend highly the books of Alan Ryder Alfons the Magnanimous and The Wreck of Catalonia, plus Flocel Sabaté's The Crown of Aragon. To understand the diversity and how the medieval states politics functioned the Crown of Aragon was the perfect examples to see its problems and virtues. It would be a very interesting video as apart from those two authors there is little bibliography that explains that state in detail...
I love your videos! They’re great research for my fantasy novel.
Anybody else tired of paying 7 times and waiting 5 years after launch to actually have a complete, playable Paradox game?
Ck3 is complete since the start unlike ck2
Personally, I really want more start dates added (1081, 1204 etc).
@@georgechristman6920 I so want 1204,also its pretty stupid that Ck game doesn't have a crusader start date, the game needs first, 3 and 4 crusade start dates
@@georgechristman6920 I enjoyed the custom starts where you can auto select a date from the list; I get why they removed it because they had to do as much research for something most players probably would never use
@@alphagamer9505 Yes and no. If you pretend the two titles are two completely seperate entities, then yes. But seeing as CK3 is the follow-up to CK2 I feel it is immensely lacking. I dont exactly /mind/ the character and dynasty perks, the religious tenants, the technology revamp, etc. They are obviously flawed and need a bit of tweaking, but yea, I like the ideas to various degrees.
However, there are so many damn things they just decided not to port from CK2 to CK3. I realise that CK2 at the end of its cycle was a clusterfuck of code consisting of numerous DLCs and endless patches, making it more viable to start over with CK3. But why drop so much of what made the later iterations of CK2 a great game? It honestly feels like a Spiderman reboot with better CGI and worse writing. And 3D-generated MILF aunts for the thirsty incest-bois.
I hope on your next video you also talk about the Spanish Court or the Russian one around this time. Not just the non-Christian courts. This video was a good one. My compliments to all those who made this video a reality.
Excellent! These studies of the structures & institutions of ancient governments fascinates me. ⚔🏹⚔
I know this is sponsored so maybe you should advertise that Royal Court is not out yet. If people buy the game they will not get access to Royal Court until the 8th. Not knocking the game, it is great in it's own right, but I am really just waiting for this DLC to play it because there's been a huge content drought
Do a video about arabic or chinese courts pls
I love the soundtrack of this video. Does anyone know what name it bears?
Just when the new CK3 DLC is going to be released. What a coincidence.
It's sponsored by paradox actually 😀
CK3 going more RPG should be fun :D
"CoinciDencE"
@@POTATOEH81 I am joking.
Please explain in the next video about how Islamic empires/kingdoms court in Middle Ages work and its composition!
When your head of state is Doge.
Royal court update sooon
Man... PDX needs to add Merchant Republics asap to the game 😩😩
Honestly, I understand why they haven't.
Imagine having to play the Doge of Venice, if they truly were to implement the full rules of it's society.
No, you can't elect your offspring.
No, you can't go on a hunting trip unless your court likes you.
No, you can't start intrigue plots unless you already have strong hooks on your court members ... etc.
Very good summary
It’s amazing how much we change but stay the same.
Amazing as always!
Is there somewhere we can watch this alternatively? It's a great episode and I want to rewatch it!
Working on it
Fixed now
Your videos are great, it would be interesting if you guys could do a video about the process of creating content like this
If you made a video about the administrative, legal, and political efforts by Augustus Caesar that would be amazing.
Perhaps the greatest administrator in human history
Could you imagine if the U.S. electoral system was modelled on medieval Venice's?
Nice. CK3 and Kings and Generals fits very well
Godsmacked. Great job!
Hey Kings and Generals! Excellent video as usual. My request for a future video would be a companion to this: how local governance worked among western non-aristocratic peoples! Ie.: how might the socio-cultural and political governance systems worked among peasants beyond the often studied feudal relationship? We’re there other political mechanisms among the people ie.: local councils, assemblies, or elders etc.? Cheers!
Yes that’s all well and good, but am I legally allowed to push my uncle off the balcony?
Can you do a video on the courts of the Kingdom of Aragon?
Quality work as always
Great video interesting content 👍
Excellent content
Absolute banger
my like and comment. Would love more videos like these on how governance worked
Love Crusader Kings 3 it's super fun and goofy game 🎮
i cant wait for royal court dlc