Whenever I hear a person getting a hidden mayor surprise reveal 1v1, I always remember back to old ToS where I revealed day 1 cause achievement back when they first released and had a 1v1 with the last mafia. I asked them "Why am I alive" and he didn't really have an answer for that
Real answer: The evils probably thought that since you're confirmed town, you'd constantly have protection, and didn't wanna risk it until they made sure all protects are dead Better answer: The mafia/coven didn't wanna get political that game
Pipton is telling the truth though. Trickster, as a role, has the highest skill in the game. It doesn't need the player. The player is there just to push buttons.
I have to confirm that Trickster is a really hard role to use. I asked my mom, my grandma and the rats living in my basement if they know how to use the Trickster role from Town of Salem 2 and none of them had any clue about their strategy.
At 20:07, whilst Pipton was explaining why Trickster is the highest skill role, he was about to say “the dumbest”, but that’s when he was visited by a Trickster, and tricked into saying “the highest skill” instead. Truly the highest skill role.
Pipe, just so you know, you can’t get into another relationship as admirer once you’ve had a toxic relationship. I know from experience because I had a game where I proposed to a suspicious Tracker who turned out to be Werewolf, the Werewolf died to jester haunt that same night, and I couldn’t propose to anyone else the rest of the game.
I was discussing the roles with my brother when I realized that VH was transformed into the Trickster. It turns out that the only way to make VH into a proper role is to remove the vampires.
Unrelated but i just wanna share this game i just had. So I rolled crusader and ended up killing the HM. During the trial the voodoo gets hung and and exe ends up tormenting the CL. And thats it, THATS THE GAME. And I got a lovely achievement from it because the game ended on day 2 :D
I really dislike that Trickster kills themselves if they do their job right. I think Trickster should be equivalent to the CL. So that you can decide if you want basic attack and basic defense or powerful attack. You are, however, not informed if your target was innocent or their defense was to high.
@@bloxer9563I mean, it's way worse than vigi at the same time. Trickster with tp chain is already this powerful anyways, allowing trickster to be slightly independent even if all they can do is force a killing role to lose a night. Just make it so you can't trick same person twice in a row so trickster doesn't become a tool to lock down targets with. This only allows trickster to safely eliminate roles that have no defense without dying in return. If vigi doesn't have to die after attacking a killing role, neither should trickster.
All any is the most fun/relaxed game mode. You don’t have to sweat to focus on role lists there’s a chance for crazy games you can have fun roles and team comps and people get to scroll what they want.
Btw I have played tos2 for the first time and my first game was a coven win as wildling with book after ck and Medusa died, it was just me and the hex master and we won because we had to hang a death
You know, Trickster should pick a person and see everything that happens to them at night, but not who visits or whom they visit. Just the messages the selected person gets at the end of the night (including if they used their ability or not). That way Trickster can use that info to zero in on a good person to Trick. They could fake claim Spy to throw off Doomsayers. Edit: that would mean if the selected person was RBD, if the selected person attacked someone who was immune, if they were attacked but they had defense, etc. Coven don’t get text at the end of the night saying if they successfully attacked someone… though some APOC roles could get exposed if unlucky (like Soul Collector).
@@paulstelian97 kind of? i do still think its a little too similar to spy, but this idea is that trickster will see all visible messages (so internal and external ones, as long as the selected player will see the message) but spy sees all external ones (so all external messages whether visible to the selected player or not, such as being doused/hexed). they're different, but i don't know if they're distinct enough to be separate roles.
@arjunbaweja7755 I have to agree with this, that is an absolutely awful way to rework Trickster, spy gets loads of info to work with as it is, this is just too much
I feel like to fix trickster they should have a max of 2 tricks and maybe give them 1 vest so they have the chance of killing once without dying. Idk, just a thought
Is this seriously your first time 1v1 mayor ? I have like >100 hours in ToS and I’ve done that twice. 1st time was against PB, and second time was against a godfather. The first time I did it I was surprised it wasn’t an achievement.
I had an interesting game this morning. I was a spy. I bugged #4 N1 & N2 my bug got triggered with the message "Your target has entered a Toxic Relationship and will not be able to speak tomorrow!" #4 had proposed to the pirate N2 & that is why they were silenced. D3 I post my results revealing that info for my bug on #4, N3 I bugged a dep who had poped out & Hex triggered my bug so at the start of D4 I whispered my bug results to the Admirer & the Dep, hex didn't have book. Near the end of D4 & for parts of D5 the Admirer, forgetting that I had revealed that he was in a toxic relationship with the pirate & that I had revealed hex master game, starts calling me fake. Thankfully enough I wasn't voted or lynched cause town knew I was legit. #4 after the game said sry, that he forgot about my bug that had revealed the toxic relationship XD
"Mayor is a pretty easy role"
Every mayor on their way to become the 5th coven member:
its easy to do nothing that is
Hey its what we learned from Buffy the Vampire Slayer
"8 you're CL right?"
-CL before getting hit by a hidden mayor clutch
imagine you are the mayor of the town, you walk out of your house and both your neighbor's are just dead on the floor.
I wouldn't reveal either if I was mayor (until I had to) if _that_ was the case.
Our city hall is shaped like a coffin so it's much worse than just having dead neighbors, and yet every city official is proud to work there.
both neighbour's doors?
or did you mistype neighbours?
@@NoNameAtAll2wha????
@@NoNameAtAll2Difference between great britain and American english
Whenever I hear a person getting a hidden mayor surprise reveal 1v1, I always remember back to old ToS where I revealed day 1 cause achievement back when they first released and had a 1v1 with the last mafia. I asked them "Why am I alive" and he didn't really have an answer for that
Real answer: The evils probably thought that since you're confirmed town, you'd constantly have protection, and didn't wanna risk it until they made sure all protects are dead
Better answer: The mafia/coven didn't wanna get political that game
The TPOW turning the game around last second is always so satisfying to see
It’s incredible that the two town power survived 5 potential killers with no tp
The trickster slander always cracks me up.
Pipton is telling the truth though. Trickster, as a role, has the highest skill in the game. It doesn't need the player. The player is there just to push buttons.
Ret plus trick is a higher skill.
@@FrostTurnipall any but 2 of the roles are guaranteed to be ret and trickster.
@@ChaseJonas75nah 1 trick 1 ret 4 cov (no necro) arsos wws and sks just too see who dies and who dosen't
revealing in a 1v1 is just catastrophic lol. The evil is gonna think "heh. I win" but then you clicked the reveal button and they just die
You just scarred that CL for life. He will never skip killing a tpow claim now.
even if he was killed, pros woulda prossed
the CL had no way out at the end there
yeah and neither of them claimed tpow i think
every time pipe gets trickster he always gets 10x sassier. his words were dripping with sarcasm lol
I have to confirm that Trickster is a really hard role to use. I asked my mom, my grandma and the rats living in my basement if they know how to use the Trickster role from Town of Salem 2 and none of them had any clue about their strategy.
The donut I'm eating right now also had no idea about the strategy to use for trickster
Did you say rats
Rats make me crazy
@@Silentcore12xCrazy? I was crazy once. They locked me in a room. A rubber room. A rubber room with rats. And rats make me crazy.
trickster seems like a role for me
5: "8, you're CL right?"
Me: "Yes, I am the Coven Lyncher!"
That moment when the Shroud turns the Seer into Town Killing.
20:05 "Another reason why trickster is the du-highest skill role in Town of Salem."
Even when pipe wants to fake claim NA there's a coven leader.
and an sk with bloodlust
the one time he's not the main character is when he just dares think to claim NA
At 20:07, whilst Pipton was explaining why Trickster is the highest skill role, he was about to say “the dumbest”, but that’s when he was visited by a Trickster, and tricked into saying “the highest skill” instead. Truly the highest skill role.
The day I die and go to ToS2 heaven is when it's a 1v1 between a mayor and a conj who saved their nuke
"Not today junior!" Was crazy
I am loving these high skill Trickster gameplays. Pressing one button sure is tough work
Pipe, just so you know, you can’t get into another relationship as admirer once you’ve had a toxic relationship. I know from experience because I had a game where I proposed to a suspicious Tracker who turned out to be Werewolf, the Werewolf died to jester haunt that same night, and I couldn’t propose to anyone else the rest of the game.
PipeTron: "I absolutely cannot say anything this day!"
Also PipeTron: "What"
That mayor reveal is really satisfying XD
The mayor 1v1 is the most funniest thing ive seen in ToS hahaha
Both Town Powers made it but only one lived to tell the tale
Man i wanna see the reaction of those in thr graveyeard when pipe revealed as mayor
I was discussing the roles with my brother when I realized that VH was transformed into the Trickster. It turns out that the only way to make VH into a proper role is to remove the vampires.
Unrelated but i just wanna share this game i just had.
So I rolled crusader and ended up killing the HM. During the trial the voodoo gets hung and and exe ends up tormenting the CL. And thats it, THATS THE GAME. And I got a lovely achievement from it because the game ended on day 2 :D
Just imagining what to say in this dream scenario. Maybe "truth is, the game was rigged from the start" or something cheesy.
"11 upped it"
The most hurtful words I've heard, he in fact did not vote it😢
I really dislike that Trickster kills themselves if they do their job right. I think Trickster should be equivalent to the CL. So that you can decide if you want basic attack and basic defense or powerful attack. You are, however, not informed if your target was innocent or their defense was to high.
"Trickster kills themselves if they do their job right"
Body guard : 🗿
i kinda like it tbh. The idea is its a role that can only be confirmed if it dies (most of the time) so it makes it an easy suspicious fake claim
this is way too broken lol
Remove trickster from the game and add jackal
@@bloxer9563I mean, it's way worse than vigi at the same time. Trickster with tp chain is already this powerful anyways, allowing trickster to be slightly independent even if all they can do is force a killing role to lose a night. Just make it so you can't trick same person twice in a row so trickster doesn't become a tool to lock down targets with. This only allows trickster to safely eliminate roles that have no defense without dying in return. If vigi doesn't have to die after attacking a killing role, neither should trickster.
Your videos always make the day easier. Thank you!
5:00 ^ has defense, because Seer was shrouded, and got 13 killed. So 6 was hit by Shroud.
"To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to play Trickster effectively..."
I think this should be an achievement to be honest. A mythical achievement that is almost impossible to get.
More PipeTron for the day.
Trickster difficult fr. You gotta read the chat and pick correctly. That’s difficult for blind people
Honestly I can only imagine the hype the prosecutor felt in that first game
Tbh, i Would love to see dead chat reaction after "not today"
when you reveal as mayor in a 1v1: "Supplies!"
having some mashed potatoes gravy and medister to this video, cheers to another good one full of entertaining pipetron gameplay
Once the first match happened to me but it was bers and I wasn’t mayor
GG Great video as always :)
It would be cool if there was a special death animation for tricking someone
mb if this has been asked before but why do most people play any all on tos2?
All any is the most fun/relaxed game mode. You don’t have to sweat to focus on role lists there’s a chance for crazy games you can have fun roles and team comps and people get to scroll what they want.
Babe wake up. Pipetron uploaded again.❤️
I can't with the trickster slander 😂😂😂😂
Only 6 town too
Also youre really close to 100k
what was 7 in the last game? sk outed themself to pull them down while 7 didn't even defend themself, but they won with town?
Btw I have played tos2 for the first time and my first game was a coven win as wildling with book after ck and Medusa died, it was just me and the hex master and we won because we had to hang a death
He didn't lie when he said he was funny.
You know, Trickster should pick a person and see everything that happens to them at night, but not who visits or whom they visit. Just the messages the selected person gets at the end of the night (including if they used their ability or not). That way Trickster can use that info to zero in on a good person to Trick. They could fake claim Spy to throw off Doomsayers.
Edit: that would mean if the selected person was RBD, if the selected person attacked someone who was immune, if they were attacked but they had defense, etc. Coven don’t get text at the end of the night saying if they successfully attacked someone… though some APOC roles could get exposed if unlucky (like Soul Collector).
So literally Spy but with an extra function?
This is, by far, the worst way to rework trickster (no offense).
@@paulstelian97 kind of? i do still think its a little too similar to spy, but this idea is that trickster will see all visible messages (so internal and external ones, as long as the selected player will see the message) but spy sees all external ones (so all external messages whether visible to the selected player or not, such as being doused/hexed). they're different, but i don't know if they're distinct enough to be separate roles.
@arjunbaweja7755 I have to agree with this, that is an absolutely awful way to rework Trickster, spy gets loads of info to work with as it is, this is just too much
Plus it can find more evils without dying
grande ayuso jugandose un ToS2
I still am not sure why trickster is in the game when transporter got ax'd.
Just in time for bed 😍❤️ perfect timing
I feel like to fix trickster they should have a max of 2 tricks and maybe give them 1 vest so they have the chance of killing once without dying. Idk, just a thought
A 3 a 2 a 1 SUPRISEEEE
Why dont you as trick claim invest and give info to town about who isnt a killer?
If you got prosecuted it only would’ve been a draw over a win.
nice
Is this seriously your first time 1v1 mayor ? I have like >100 hours in ToS and I’ve done that twice. 1st time was against PB, and second time was against a godfather. The first time I did it I was surprised it wasn’t an achievement.
man what i wouldn't give to have seen that first game's dead chat
Trickster require maximum amount of Dexterity, Strength, and Intelligence to press one button and pray that you will see Jesus next days
Day 140 of asking Pipe to play Lovers mode in Tos 1 till he gets the rare Pestilence message.
I had an interesting game this morning. I was a spy. I bugged #4 N1 & N2 my bug got triggered with the message "Your target has entered a Toxic Relationship and will not be able to speak tomorrow!" #4 had proposed to the pirate N2 & that is why they were silenced. D3 I post my results revealing that info for my bug on #4, N3 I bugged a dep who had poped out & Hex triggered my bug so at the start of D4 I whispered my bug results to the Admirer & the Dep, hex didn't have book. Near the end of D4 & for parts of D5 the Admirer, forgetting that I had revealed that he was in a toxic relationship with the pirate & that I had revealed hex master game, starts calling me fake. Thankfully enough I wasn't voted or lynched cause town knew I was legit. #4 after the game said sry, that he forgot about my bug that had revealed the toxic relationship XD
I did but as amne prosecutor
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