Hi, my name is Scott and I live in Minnesota USA I just have to tell you that I watched your video a few years ago about using INOX mx3 from Australia and it took a while for me to find the INOX but since I’ve started using it, I can’t believe how wonderful and enjoyable it is to see my trains running so well. Thank you for the information and I love watching your video you talk like a normal person and you’re funny, I love it.
I just recently started cleaning my Z scale track using CRC 2-26 and I was completely amazed with the results. My trains are running much better now and there have been no more locomotives stalling at random spots. Before the CRC 2-26, I was using IPA to clean the locomotive wheels and using wooden craft sticks, soaked in IPA, to clean the rails. The trains did not perform well and as a result, moved on to märklin HO, then OO Gauge, then finally G gauge (I was using the track rubber to clean the HO track). After watching your first video on how not to clean your track and what to use instead, I gave it some really good thought. But then I was put off by “One Person named Sam” and wasn’t sure about giving Inox a try. Eventually I decided to give Inox a try, but could not find it anywhere, so I got some CRC 2-26 and tried it when I cleaned the wheels, pick-up wipers, and motor brushes on an older Hornby 0-4-0T locomotive and I was amazed with the results. Before the locomotive was running erratically, but now it runs like it’s new. I’ve now confidently gone back to Z scale knowing I will enjoy trouble free running now that I’m cleaning the track the right way. Thank you so much for sharing your secret to well clean track and locomotive wheels. It is very greatly appreciated. I’m keeping the IPA on my workbench, but now it’s only for cleaning the metal mesh on my Apple Air Pods and wired ear buds. As for the track rubber: it’s earned an all expense paid one way trip to the bottom of the ocean.
Hi Raymond, Thank you for telling me your story! This is why I did these two videos , to help modellers get better performance from their trains, and I'm glad you got the results I promised! As for poor old Sam...he's just a boy living in his mum's loft , watching trains go round in circles..LOL But thanks to his little panic attack, I did get more people coming to watch my videos! Just one thing, keep the spray away from your motor brushes....it will make the carbon dust stick together, but a one time clean will be ok. Thanks again for the kind comments and for letting me know how it went. Cheers Gregg.
Thanks Gregg. I've been using CRC 2-26 for several years now and I've never had a problem with traction or electrical pick up with it. As far as cleaning wheels. I only clean them once if and when I purchase used rolling stock and they are excessively dirty. Now here is a trick I use for cleaning track after I've weathered it or after ballasting. I glued cork roadbed to a small block of wood and spritz a little CRC on it and rub over the track to remove the paint or glue from the tops of the rails. The cork scrubs the rails but doesn't scratch them. Much better then a track rubber and nonabrasive.
Hi Ken , Cork is an old trick and I use it myself for the same reason! It does soak up a little spray and some people use it for normal track cleaning , though I prefer a rag as it holds more dirt. I'm glad the CRC is working for you and thanks for the comment and for watching! Gregg :-)
I have to thank you for your first video on track cleaning. I was using a contact cleaner but found it did clean off initial dirt and dust but did not improve the running performance. In fact I was getting extremely frustrated to the point I didn't want to operate my trains. On your recommendation I got CRC and it made an immediate difference. In fact I only cleaned the track once in about a month and still running without issue. The only issue I ran into was on a 2 percent grade I had some slipping. Must have used too much CRC. Appreciate your videos. Thanks again.
Hi David , you hit the nail on the head when it comes to Contact cleaner! I'm glad you got great results from the CRC and yes , maybe you used a little too much? Inox is not as "slippery" but you will learn how much CRC to use and you can always add more power to a train!! Thanks for the feedback and I appreciate the support. Cheers Gregg.
I know I'm late the the party here but great videos Greg, track rubber has found the bottom of my bin and my locos run better then ever. Thanks for your awesome advice 🤙
Hi from accross the ditch I have been able to purchase inox here and very happy with the result . I had found after an hour of cleaning my tracks with IPa I would start to have issues. But now with inox a day later a week later all is good .
Thats great! It is amazing how many people now tell me that IPA did cause issues with conductivity..so I'm glad it not just me..LOL . Thanks for the feedback and I'm glad you got good results from the Inox! Cheers Gregg.
Inox is great and works a treat. I'll back it all the way. Being an Aussie I've used it for years for many purposes but thanks to you for putting me on to it for my layout.
Hi Peter, I'm glad you're getting great results from it and happy to help! We use it on real signals and turnout machines at work..so it handles the big stuff too..LOL. Cheers Gregg.
This video and the previous track cleaning do's and don'ts have been very helpful. I'm in South Africa and although I haven't found Inox, I did manage to track down a tin of CRC 2-26 and have tried it out on my layout in the last couple of weeks...It has made a massive difference. Even my poorest running loco is going pretty smoothly now. Many thanks for the helpful advice Gregg.
"Howzit" Matt! Thanks for watching the videos and telling me your results! It's great to see peoples trains running better and you'll now see all your wheels start to clean up as well...just keep wiping that track when necessary! Thanks and cheers , Gregg.
Gregg, great follow up on the track cleaning saga. Love the way you tackle this, track cleaning rubbers after all are abrasive and will therefore shorten the lifespan of track. In my former occupation as a plumber I often used sprays comparable to crc or inox, for example to clean stainless steel. Where most other products fail, because they bite through the outer protective layer, these sprays really improve the lifespan of the very layer, hence improve the lifespan of the metal. Regarding most of our track are of similar metallurgy as stainless steel, these sprays will most certainly help much, much better than the obnoxious track cleaning rubbers, vacuum systems, etc. Thanks for sharing. Vincent
Thanks for watching and the comments Vincent! Yes , our track is really quiet delicate in a way, but if looked after, will last a lifetime as you say. I have track that is decades old and looks no different to new rail. I'm glad you like the videos and thanks for the support. Cheers Gregg.
Awesome video Gregg, glad to see so many people are happy with the results. It makes the hobby so much more enjoyable when the trains run well, especially when the sounds keep dropping out because of dirty track. Keep alives are also not as essential
Thanks Neale! We pay a ot for the models, so they need to run the best they can as far as I'm concerned. I say that keep alives are a poor substitute for reliable railway :-). Cheers Gregg.
Hi Tezza...glad you got great results and threw away the IPA !! You can get INOX from Pendal Slot Racing in Lancashire apparently! Thanks for the feedback and tell your friends! Cheers Gregg. 🙂
Hi Gary , thats; great news! You must have a clean room...? I get so much road dust coming in to mine! Go over parts of the layout from time to time, just to refresh the coating and se how dirty the rag is, this will give you an idea of how often you need to do a maintenance clean. Thanks for the feedback ! Gregg :-)
Hi Gregg ,just had a running season with a mate that came over at Easter , hadn't run the layout in 4 months . A little vacuum a some CRC on the lay out all good to go, as far as the small percentage of %$#@ TARDS I would suggest they apply critical analysis in their argument . Can't put brains into statues , I've trialed both products over the last 12 months , I think it's a photo finish both seem to be very good. My layout is in a garage which isn't sealed so it is a great testament to how well these products perform not to mention the hours saved cleaning track. Once again a very good video as for those dislikes that must mean you are doing something right keep up the good work thanks .
Thank you for a great video. I love how you tell it like it is and keep it real. They need to put this video on Model Railroader Video Plus because they reference the Bright Boy quite often. I’m also loving the scenery. Cheers!
Hi Gregg with 3 Gs ha.... after watching your videos last year, I went on the hunt for CRC 2-26, I found some on good ol Amazon. A standard for me now when cleaning locomotive wheels is.... turn the loco upside down in a foam cradle, apply power with a short piece of track and get the wheels turning slow but not too slow. Dip a cotton swab in lacquer thinner, then apply to the wheel tread. After cleaning all the wheels, I then dip another cotton swab in a jar of 2-26 and apply it to the wheel treads as well. Seams to do the trick. Unfortunately, I don't currently have a layout to wipe the track with your method.
nearly a rant there Greg, but it’s an important, usually overlooked, part of the hobby that sneaks up on the unsuspecting enthusiast who in turn goes to abrasives to resolve the issue, and so begins the black hole spiral. thanks for your great episode.
Hi Gregg, I have been using the woodland scenics track cleaning pads soaked in Inox. That seems to work quite well I use the pads that their track cleaning fluid is used with. Ian
Hi Ian, thats great but remember you don't need very much and the pad will hold enough for a few wipes before you apply more. Thanks for watching. Gregg.
I haven't seen INOX in the USA yet. Been using CRC for over 5 years now and since this is the first time I've seen one of your videos I had to think long & hard to realize you were talking about Isopropyl Alcohol.
Hi Ron , I'm not a beer drinker so I didn't get the IPA reference..LOL. I trust the CRC is working for you and thank you for the comment and for watching! Cheers Gregg.
Watched your videos. Found the only UK supplier who is in fact a slot car specialist. Ordered the one size pump action spray. Have now applied it to my O gauge layout and guess what, you are not wrong. It instantly improved the running throughout and even on a couple of previously sticky locos that I had also applied the liquid to the pick ups.
Hi Greg, Thanks for getting back to me regarding your results! You're part of a growing family who enjoy better running locomotives and it is neat to see it working on O gauge..I'l have to check out your videos! Thanks again and Cheers. Gregg.
Yup, this has been my experience also, thanks....Also, polishing the rails first with a chrome plated washer first, takes out all minute scratches that hold dirt out of the rail
Thats great Dwight! The washer is a good idea if the rails have been damaged /scratched by abrasive cleaning. Thanks for the feedback and for watching. Gregg.
Greg you saved my life today, had a slipping incline on my layout, suddenly remembered what you said about Inox sold by Bunnings, gave the track a spray and bingo no more wheel slip. I can thoroughly recommend it to stop wheel slipping. Yes it is a lubricant don't know how it works but it does.
Because of your so called "advice" I stopped using rubbers. Now she's threatening to sell my F5 to pay for the diapers. (Thanks for real, mate! Love your videos!) You caught me just after I laid my first bit of track so Inox is the only way I've ever cleaned it. Wish I could buy you a cold one. 🍻
LOL...nice one Charles! I'm glad you enjoy the videos and it's cool to hear of peoples success after using Inox ect. I'll take you up on a wee dram one day! Cheers Gregg.
Inox has worked a treat on mine. As you said it continues to work well after the initial clean. I use mine with a track cleaning car and chase it with a few locos at a time
Hi Gegg, just found your channel from the UK, being a railway modeller for the past 40yrs, tried all sorts of stuff from track rubbers, track cleaning cars etc, you name it I've probally tried it, my thoughts here and I could be wrong is that when a loco is running there is a tiny spark where it makes contact with the track "arcing" you cant see this but this is what causes the track and wheels to become dirty, assuming they are clean in the first place. my method that I have used for years is 'lighter fluid' on a cotton bud its amazing how much muck it shifts.
Hi and thanks for watching! The arcing is a theory , but DCC is AC and actually helps keep track cleaner as it changes polarity and give less time for dirt to build. We use AC on real railway track circuits in areas that have little traffic , so the train wheels can make contact through the rust. Also on the model we are not pulling any current, (with modern locos) so arcing would be almost nothing. Sprays like Inox & CRC do help with arcing but have other advantages too. Try some in place of lighter fluid and see how it goes? Gregg :-)
Dear Gregg can I use inox in a track cleaning car or just on a rag I am in the UK great video on track cleaning mate super informative keep up the good work buddy track rubber gone in the bin thanks so much buddy
@@FishplateFilms gregg what are your thoughts on running trains in the cold as its very cold over here in the uk at the moment its really cold in my loft has been for days now thanks buddy
LOL...Thanks Darren! Iwas just about to tell you to watch this video! Keep wiping the black off your rails with Inox , and you will automatically clean your wheels ! Glad you enjoyed the videos. Cheers Gregg.
I like using Gilbert track cleaner if I can find it. Lionel makes a service kit which has track cleaning fluid in it which should be just as good. What do you think of those cleaners? I know the old HO track cleaners have alcohol in them but maybe the new cleaners don't I don't know. I hear CRC 226 is really good but I don't have any right now. I have used pure mineral oil, NOT mineral spirits! That smells, the pure mineral oil has no odor at all. Track is clean and shiny and so are wheels. Nothing feels oily either.
I might get shot to pieces here but I use Auto transmission fluid only a few drops placed around the layout. Like the inox it also leaves a film on the rails which can be wiped off very easily and the locos run ever so smoothly as the wheels pick it up then spreads the ATF across the layout
Hi Steve, You won't get shot ...ATF is an old school trick I used 30 yrs ago..LOL. It does work to a degree, but may I suggest moving on to a product that is designed for electrical use? Treat yourself to a small can of Inox or CRC 2-26 and compare the results ....just for me :-) Thanks for watching. Gregg.
@@FishplateFilms well Gregg, although I'm on holidays ATM I went into work and purchased a small spray bottles of inox. Without any cleaning of track or engines I sprayed a couple of places around the layout and set the trains off, I prob hadn't run any of the trains for well over 12 months and after a couple of helpful pushes with the hand of God they took off and ran like a dream. I'm converted. I only have a poor looking DC layout which I bought several years ago off someone who was chucking it out. If you have an email address I'll email a couple sort videos and you can see what a difference it made on my layout. Regards Steve
@@steveweatherly1965 Hi Steve, thats great news and you have proven the science behind the video! If you can , post the videos on your channel , and i'll check them out! let me know either way. Cheers Gregg.
Good to see a gr8 aussie giving good honest oppinions and fair dinkum advice to us train nuts ,, or for the better saying 1 train nut to anuvva train nut haha ,, soo good on ya m8 i had a gr8 larf at the funnyness of your oarsum wit and gr8 videos. Liked and subscribed. Cheers from John in Australia.
I've always had issues with dirty track and keeping trains from stalling. I started using mineral spirits and CRC 2-26 to clean my track about a month ago. I haven't had a locomotive stall since but I also noticed a drastic decrease in the number of locomotive derailments caused by a picked switch. I believe the use of isopropyl alcohol left the flanges dry and made them more aggressive and likely to ride up on the rail. With CRC 2-26 the flanges are lubricated and it seems the locomotives and rolling stock ride smoother.
Thats' good to hear Brandon! I would suggest you look at wheel gauge on any cars that pick the switch , and or check that the switch is housed correctly? You can also file the tip of the switch very gently to help with wheels picking! But I'm sure the CRC does help a bit! Cheers Gregg.
Hi Greg ,I model the steel industry, did inox on my ho layout about 1 year ago, and all my Locomotives still never stalled not even on my switches never cleaned the track one time it's been 1 year now, I wipe a little in in one spot let the train do the rest ,AND never ever clean my wheels ALL nice and shiny, just wanted to thank you my friend, for the advice, god bless and good rail reading thanks again
Hi Rick, Thanks for the feedback , and I'm glad you are getting the results I promised! That's great to hear and thats why I did the video...tell your friends and happy railroading:-) GRegg.
Hi Gregg, another great, hilarious video. I have been using Inox since I saw your "Track cleaning do's and don'ts". Found it at our local Auto 1, and Super Cheap. Works great!
I recently brought some new trains to replace some older ones with traction tyres. Looking forward to trying the inox and seeing how it goes as I’m in a shed and the track gets dirty quickly.
Hi Greg, yes got back to you before to say how over the moon I am since I began to use Inox after your video. That was back in last August I started using it. Here in the UK, Only have a small roundy roundy in a shed so yes the cloth and the track gets dirty but theres parts of the track hidden in tunnels I have never needed to clean, I just wipe a few feet of easy to get to track clean with a new application of Inox and let the train running do the rest. Not a flicker on the train lights as it crawls along (unlike before) and never had to clean loco or stock wheels. Ohh no problem with traction tyres as my stock don't have any :) All the best love your videos (like the rants to :) ) Cheers Peter
Hi Peter, thanks for the report on your trail of Inox! It's great to see more positive stories with smooth running trains! Best wishes and cheers, Gregg.
@@FishplateFilms Hi Peter, I have a similar small layout as well. Im also in the UK and would like to try Inox but can't seem to find a seller. Any chance you could tell me where you bought yours? Cheers, John.
Thanks for the video on track cleaning Ron's Trains and Things Told me about you to watch the video. I like it. I well see of I can find it THANK YOU Idaho USA
I use Inox and am very happy with it, I was cleaning my track daily, with IPA, I now apply Inox to the pad on an old Triangle track cleaner box car and run it around a few times every few months. I occasionally polish thick black deposits with a champagne cork. The Inox caused the traction tyres on an old Lima loco to stretch and fall off. Thanks for the tip. Peter. (Australia)
Thats great news Peter! As more stories come in about IPA , I may have to do another video just on that? Cork does a good job and is an old favourite and I'm glad you got good results using INox. I haven't heard the word "LiMA in a few decades..LOL Thanks for watching , Cheers Gregg.
Now greg is this inox the same as using lanolin.?? I have been using transmission fluid for about three years now and it does much the same as inox, I don't have to clean my wheels i just have to make sure i don't put to much on the rail or else I have problems with the engine's wheels slipping. Love your videos mate keep them comming.
Hi Joe, I did try a Lanolin spray net to INox a few years ago, and it worked pretty much the same , except that lanolin dries a bit sticky ( as it is a grease) so I found inox to be a bit better as it does not dry out . Trnny fluid is a old trick , but it's not made for the purpose ...but still better than a rubber and IPA ! Thanks for watching and the kind comments! Cheers Gregg.
Greg, another great video and I can confirm all you are saying is true. Both my friend (who uses CRC 2 26) and myself,( I use Inox MP3) also have no need in cleaning wheels. All our wheels are metal. We both have been doing this since the 1980's.
Thanks Terry! Well there you go! I wish I'd started that early..LOL. I don't even think of it anymore and it's far easier to clean dirt off track , than off wheels! I appreciate the feedback and for watching. Cheers, Gregg.
Lately I've been focusing on American Flyer s gauge operating on origional tinplate rail. As this is an ac system arcing and carbon quickly lead to operational issues. I've estimated that for every 2 hours of operation I need to clean the track...which can be dirty in a single pass. I also been using alchohol to clean the rail heads. I did a some initial testing using crc lightly coating the rails...which while continuing to be dirty...did give better performance. I have most tests to make but I'm encouraged by what you have shared and what I see. Track maintenance has been the only thing I dont like about these antique trains.
@@FishplateFilms thus far it has been interesting. I might mention that I have dunno dc and dcc and noticed how very little track cleaning was needed for dcc. My tin plate is a much different critter. Arching/carbon build up happens quickly and i spend alot of time cleaning wheels and track...to this point has been with denatured alchohol. So I'm very interested in your thoughts and experience. With the crc I still get carbon/dirt buildup on wheels but it is not caked on hard like I typically see. The cloth used to put down the crc is black. I see the rails getting dirty with lots of buildup. And this will impede conductivity. I then lay down more crc. And conductivity is improved. I did notice the rails are slippery when I first put the crc down. I have not checked to see if the product you use is available here in the states. Would you have another recommendation other than crc? I had some and as I watched your video thought I would try it. I'll be posting a few videos on my site about it in the near future.
Hi Noel and welcome to the hobby! I'm glad you enjoyed the video and found it useful., as track cleaning is a basic chore in model railroading! Thanks for watching. Cheers Gregg.
Greg, thanks for your latest vid. It got me going to give the my layout tracks a clean, works a treat. The tracks instantly got their shine back. Like yourself I also throw a wobbly when a loco has a stop start tanty. Now running nice and smooth. Keep up the good work. Kind regards Gerry.
Thanks Greg, you sold me on inox on the first video. I have only cleaned my wheels once on my locos and stock and wont be doing it again. O gauge makes this difficult anyway with the size & weight etc. Must get some more inox. Thanks once again 👍🏼 best wishes. Julian.
Hi Julian, I'm glad you got good results from Inox and it's cool to see it being used on O gauge! Thanks for the feedback and for watching. Cheers Gregg.
Hi Gregg, I must have missed the bit in your previous video about using Inox with traction tyres causing a problem. I had a 4-4-0 with traction tyres and after using Inox it would no longer go up the incline. I became rather distressed as it was the only loco that would pull a good rake of carriages up the incline whereas other locos only managed 2 or 3. However, I have seen a video by Sams Trains (who disagreed with Inox) doing a video on how to change the axle set with traction tyres to one without. This is the route I will have to go down to solve that problem . . . and buy a loco that has more pulling power to pull more carriages up the incline. I hadn't used Inox since then, but now having seen your update and read some of the reviews I going to revert back to it. I am wondering whether using Methylated Spirit on the rubber would help clean the traction tyres? Wish me luck.
Hi Richard, Thanks again for watching ! Ahh yes...porr old Sam sitting all alone in his mum's attic ..LOL. As you have said , there are dozens of comments on both videos, from people who's trains have never run better since using INOX and throwing away there IPA and track rubbers...so the proof is in the pudding! IMO , traction tyres are an excuse for a poorly designed loco, and anything on the rails will render them useless. They also take the weight of the mid drivers, so you are left with only the front and rear axels touching the rails , so Sam is right in changing the wheels out to get rid of the traction tyres! Also adding weight to the loco , if possible will help too! GO back to Inox and enjoy smooth running SIr! Cheers Gregg.
Hi Gregg....I’m still using Inox...trains still running...it’s a no brainier really. Even with my eyesight on my n gauge track I could see the scratches on it from the dreaded track rubber. Keep up the great videos mate, they really are a pleasure to watch👍 Ron.
Hi Michael, thanks for watching the video! INOX- MX3 is the one you want , the other one is more of a lubricant only. Let me know how it works for you. Cheers Gregg.
Another great video Greg. I will never get rid of my track rubber from Japan. The HOZAN K-142 #320 is by far the bestist of the best track rubbers. I did do the INOX bit after your advice and feel that it should not be used until your track has been painted & weathered. It is after all an oil. After paint & weathering , sure go for it. It does work, & your advice is sound as an electrician. Now here is one for ya. CRC mass air flow cleaner. Plastic safe for cleaning motors & compotator's. Wouldn't use it on track & wheel, but for internals it does wash the crud out.. Keep them videos coming Greg, Espesh the Adelaide hill's ones.
Gregg, Started using INOX on my N scale layout a day or two ago. Can't believe all the black coming off the rails. How many cleanings might it take before the amount of black stuff is minimized? weeks? months? Thanks. It is very easy to use. I have cut up an old heavier tee shirt into sort of small squares and hold them around a short piece of wood that is roughly 1" x 3/4" x 2 3/4". This works well in N holding it vertically. It really glides along the track. I've been thinking that it would be nice if there was a way to hold the cloth to the stick with something like velcro. Have you ever tried cleaning the points where they contact the stock rails with INOX? If so how did it work out? Thanks. Amby N
HI Amby, I'm glad you good great results! It depends on your environment and how much you run your layout? There will always been some grime , as the rails pickup dirt from the wheels and the surface of the track oxidises , but you will get to know how often to clean . I use Inox all the time on my switch rails in my turnouts! Thanks for watching. Gregg
I really need to get back to my layout. Got to make some bents for the trestle - this vid Re-ignited my passion (not physically like those people and their track rubbers...) Anyway, it's been my experience that people who respond with great anger are often afraid that they are wrong, which upsets them. Anyway, thanks for the great info - been using inox from the very start thanks to you. Having been on hiatus, I need to go clean it again. Thanks, for the help.
Thanks Charles! I've been away from mine for a few weeks , due to working on the house and other things! No one likes being proved wrong, but it's better to learn and move on with more knowledge....happens to me all the time..LOL. Great to see the INOX is working well for you and I appreciate the feedback and support! Cheers Gregg.
Great video Gregg. A good informative video for everyone who don't really know how to clean the track.I use a rotating felt pad type of car, asas well as a Masonite track sliderunder a railcar.Good stuff, my friend!
Well... after your other 2 videos I thought I had come up with a solution for keeping IPA in the mix. My experience is that it does a good job cleaning gunk and dirt off the tracks. I learned that it leaves a residue from you so I set up 3 cleaning cars in a row. CMX with IPA followed by a pad with DeOx and then a CMX Roller to dry off. Well I still needed to clean about once a month. After seeing this IPA will be removed from the train room. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
Hi Gary , you will find that Inox / CRC will clean justs as good as IPA. I don't know if DeOX leaves a protective film , but guessing it does by the name? Thanks for watching. Gregg.
I never had any problems using IPA however after watching your earlier video and reading an article by Joe Fugate (USA) I switched to kerosene and have been impressed by how long the tracks now stay clean.
IPA's issues will creep up on you after a while and I think it also depends how much and how often you use it as well. Kerosine is a new one, but it is better than IPA in the fact that it will leave a film on the rails . Interesting and if you like the results , then go for it. Thanks for watching. Gregg.
Thanks for the advice. To clarify, do you mean CRC 2-26 (called “multi purpose lubricant”, Manufacturer Model Number 72005) or CRC “Heavy Duty Corrosion Inhibitor” (Manufacturer Model # 76026). As well, Do you ( or followers) know where I can buy Inox, CRC or a comparable product at retail in the Toronto, Ontario Canada area?
@@FishplateFilms A local club in the area, who does not believe me want to disagree about alcohol I gave up. Then you post that video sent every member the link. Do not here any more comments from them about there oxidized track. I use ACT 6006 never have to polish rails.
@@shaunhuckstepp7531 think it's people who just do not have the knowledge of what's going on. In the case of the club young and old. They had a big moisture issue also.
Greg do you know if the name of the product is the same in Canada? I'll have to check our Rail Hobby store. Our part of the world is currently in a lock down so it definitely will be a few weeks before I can visit a store. Love your videos even the mini rants, brings a smile to my face. Keep up the great work looking forward to the next release.
Thank you John! CRC 2-26 is very similar, but you can get Inox on Amazon apparently? I'm glad you enjoy the videos and I almost put a rant in this one..LOL. Stay safe and cheers, Gregg.
Great video Gregg, always good stuff and very funny at the same time. I missed the first cleaning video but I’m going to watch next. Might have to pick up some CRC or Inox (depending on what’s available here in the US). Hope the layout progress is going well. Take care. - Steve
Thank you Steve! I see you have ordered some CRC, so let me know how it goes for you! Not a lot of progress on the layout as of late, as I will be shifting in about 18mths time, so only scenery practice for now! Gregg :-)
@@FishplateFilms Gregg, did you ever encounter slippage on the locomotives after using the CRC. Experiencing a bit with them climbing my helix since using CRC? Just curious if you had it on any of your grades and if it went away over time and on its own. Thanks! - Steve
@@CajonSub Hi Steve, with HO scale it made very little difference, but with N scale I guess you have to be a little more careful? It will dry out or you could go over the Helix with a dry rag .....or just add more locos!! Also I use Inox, which has slightly different properties and may be less slick? You'll end working out how much you need to use:-) Gregg.
@@FishplateFilms false alarm. Had a loco in the consist that wasn’t turning/pulling so it was creating excessive drag. It happened right after I wiped the rails with CRC so I just assumed that was the issue. All good, fixed the locomotive and the consist runs great again. So far, I’m impressed with the CRC, rails were nasty too. Thanks for the tips/help! - Steve
I must have missed the CRC product, what is the alternative CRC product you are suggesting? May 2019 MRH e-Magazine was suggesting WD-40 contact cleaner or CRC contact cleaner & protectant was better than CRC 2-26.
Hi Nigel , CRC 2-26 is the alternative sir. Contact cleaners do not provide continued protection from oxidation and are used for different reasons. Also you would not use INOX to clean switch contacts in closed situations. Cheers Gregg.
I threw out the rubber and I'm not screwing with oils or alcohols anymore, so thank you! I'm actually getting away without Inox (still bought some) and just wiping down with a dry microfiber towel.
Thanks William! Depending on your location and how clean your room , a little wipe with Inox will help with conductivity! Just use a little when you see a hick up! Cheers Gregg.
Hi Volker! Yes , give it a go and you won't be disappointed! I saw your diorama on the Gramm' ....absolutely fantastic sir! Let me know how it goes for you , though you may have to use CRC 2-26 if you can't get Inox? Cheers Gregg.
FishplateFilms Hi Gregg, ok thank you 👍⭐️🌟🔝 We have CRC 2-26 here in Germany and I will let you know how it will work....☝️ Thank you once again and greetings to Australia, Volker
This may sound stupid but I use methylated spirits on the cloth roller of my cleaning carriage to clean the tracks on the move when my locomotive tows a cleaning carriage to clean the tracks while doing laps on the track. Yes, the methylated spirits did evaporate but most of the dirt and grease did clean my tracks and still conducting electricity. Just to let you know.
Hi Nathan, That is another old school method that does work, but does not leave a film to help prevent oxidation and help with dirt removal...but it's still better than IPA and a track rubber! Cheers Gregg.
I have not seen information in the video or comments as to if the INOX is safe using with Lionel or MTH trains with traction tires. I'd love to try this product, but do not want to damage the traction tires.
Hi Peter, Inox will not harm the traction tyres, but it will cause them to slip on the rails, like cars on a wet slick roads. But with the weight of O scale , it may not be a problem? Cheers Gregg.
My boss is going to hate your Greg..... He is going to have some cans of Inox go missing lmao. I'm going to have to give this a go, I struggle to keep both the track and the wheels clean especially on some of the older steam engines. My environment is the biggest factor, close to salt air blowing of the lake and ocean, and the other 2 is the fall out of fine dust from the steelworks (which is 5 km as the crow flies) and coal dust. The last 2 gives me the biggest problems, as the dust is so so fine. I'll give this a go, even Gary from Moss Vale had said the same thing. Thank you for sharing your tip.
LOL...sounds like you have the perfect storm there! INOX will definitely help , as will a vacuum of the tacks every now and then. I have the freeway and have to clean my tracks every week or two , as the tyre dust is amazing! Give it a go and let me know how you get on , and remember it will be an ongoing job! Thanks for watching . Gregg.
@@FishplateFilms lol yeah it's an excellent storm. Funny thing is I just finished cleaning the new track work before I watched this clip which Creepy013 told me to watch, even watched Chadwicks video of it and had explained some of the issues I have.. Trying to be smart and have it all done before my surgery on my right hand. So now what I will do is get my 2 Atlas / Duplo electric track cleaners, fill the tanks with INOX and re do it before train operations. Another issue now is the troublesome steam engines, Should I use Inox on my test track, and run it on a pad to clean those wheels?!?! Will have to give it a go single handerdly lol I'll let you know and do a video off it too. Thank you for sharing your knowledge. Arty
@@FishplateFilms It worked really well, I placed the INOX in one of the Atlas Track cleaning cars. It made a giant improvement and difference. Cleaned up so much black gunk of the tracks. Video link ruclips.net/video/w7gYGWDz93o/видео.html
It will be fine Tony, Just remember that the lanolin can leave a slightly sticky film , as opposed to the MX-3 , which does not dry out. I did try Lanolin spray as well as INOX, and it seemed to work pretty much the same. Cheers Gregg.
hi a great video mate. in the past i have used lighter fluid and a cloth to clean my track with very good results. i am now going to try inox wish me luck. cheers tom.
Hi B man , I'm glad you enjoy the videos and thanks for watching! WD40 is not ideal as it contains more oils and is not really made for electrical gear. CRC 2-26 is a good choice if you can't get Inox. But WD40 is still better than a track rubber and IPA ! Cheers Gregg.
G'day, Gregg. What are your thoughts on cleaning products based on and, mostly composed of, SiO2, Silicon Dioxide? My intended application is the initial resurrection of 40 years stored nickel (I believe) plated Scalextric slot track. Beyond that stage, for ongoing maintenance, I'm inclined to follow your model rail-track regime.
CAn't say I know much about nickel plated stuff? I assume it's plated tin, so you'll have to be careful ... sorry I an't give you any tips , but Innox after will be great. Cheers Gregg.
@@FishplateFilms Thanks, Gregg. Yep, I have my tin of Inox, ready to go. I've been looking into the various abrasive alternatives that people tout, these days. Stuff like Autosol, for instance which, I think now, maybe 400(?) grit. Someone mentioned "Pink Stuff" and, Bunnings has a local lemon scented variant, both based on Silicon Dioxide. Made for kitchen polishing applications. I'm only guessing that they may be similar to Autosol. Still investigating. I can't believe some RUclipsrs are advocating timber sandpaper and, steel wool, for track cleaning. I've never allowed anything remotely abrasive near my track. I heading off one of my steel wool wielding mates, with a well aimed banked curve to the nads and, the threat that it'd be a stanley knife, next time. I was surprised to see you mention wet & dry. Of 3000 grit, if I recall. Any issues there, with risk of damaging the electro-plating?
I missed that video from last year. I always have gummy tracks and try to clean them...it comes back after a week or so. I just ordered and got my crc 2-26 (could not find inox). Just tested real fast where an engine would stall. It works perfectly with just one pass, I just put the crc on the tracks without pressing hard to remove any dirt to see how it would do. I saw that guy's video about the rubbers, I was wondering who he was talking about...hahaha, anyways great video and it makes perfect sense about a circuit between tracks and wheels. no circuit, no power :) now on to wipe those tracks....
Hi Robin, I'm glad you proved the science behind the video and got better running straight away! Now watch as your wheels should start to deposit there dirt onto the rails where you can easily remove it! Thanks for watching the video and keep me posted on the results! Cheers Gregg.
O K Gregg you've sold me on Inox . Now , how do I get it from there to here in Colorado and how much is it American $ ? Or maybe you can bring a can or two when you come for a visit ! LOL Scottie
Nice one Scottie! You can use CRC2-26 as a substitute , or Inox is available on Amazon so they say?? I'll be coming back to Colorado for sure , in the next year or two I hope...I'll pack a few cans..LOL Let me know how it goes for you. Cheers Gregg.
I have found another use for Inox. I have been having power issues especially around turnouts after ballasting. I finally found the fishplates we’re not making good contact. Maybe some thinned PVA had founds its way in. I tried dripping Inox into the fishplate joints using a toothpick. It wicked it’s way in. Problem solved. ( I try not to solder turnout fishplates)
When you said "IPA", I thought you meant India Pale Ale! And thought why would some Aussie waste beer on his track! 🤣 Yes, IPA is hydroscopic, as is Ethanol. For some wild reason O Scale 2 rail runs better on Wahl Oil than clean dry track! I'll have to try you method. And of course you're video is polarizing, it's a video about electronics! 😂
LOL.. well you just answered a question on one comment about wasting beer...I didn't get it!! Yes Don , Wahl oil is an old favourite too, but INox is a modern twist on that in a way. Thanks for watching and let me know how it goes for you. Cheers Gregg.
I like your style. I can also vouch for the crap on the wheels ending up on the track. I got some old Atlas track out, from years ago, thinking to reuse it and yes I did eventually get some of it clean but found that the residue on the track seemed to be wear from the plastic wheels of some of my boxcars. Most now have metal wheels so, job done there. Will the Inox harm plastic wheels? From my point of view this is a silly question as I cannot get the stuff in here in the UK anyway, and although I can get contact cleaner, as you say it is not the same or as good. Really appreciate the update on this. Cheers!
Thanks Clive! Inox is fine on plastic wheels but you wan't to get rid of them anyway! You can get Inox from Pendel Slot racing in Lancashire , and also from DCC Automation. CRC 2-26 is a good alternative:-) Cheers Gregg.
HI Michael, I use a normal vacuum , but I use the brush and have the air valve open on the handle. If you can find a handheld one with a brush , that may work? Gregg.
@@FishplateFilms thanks not long started don't want to ruin it straight away great videos easy to follow advice in UK not many shops for advice thanks for replying
hi. what type of CRC can i use to clean tracks? CRC 2-26 multi purpose lubricant or CRC fast drying degreaser ? unfortunately Inox MX3 is not available in my country. thanks
Hello Gregg, I saw a couple of videos about track cleaning and no video is really comprehensive (including this one, although is a great video). Your video leaves me with an open question what should I use, as all my engines have traction tires! Inox is not for me then! Can you please advise?
Thanks Pumpkin! First question....why do you still have plastic wheels..LOL. But seriously, plastic does attract a lot more dirt than metal , due to the static build up as they rotate, but Inox is safe with plastic , so you can keep them for a little longer :-) Cheers Gregg.
Hi again Gregg, I've just revisited the older video regarding track rubbers and IPA and read some of the comments and your replies. Ok so inox is not good for traction tyres. However I did read in one of your replies where you said it wasn't for him but for him to try 'Metho'. Is this Methylated Spirit? Are you suggesting cleanin the track with this rather than Inox?
Hi Richard, Thanks for watching the videos, and yes I did mention "Metho" and it is methylated spirits. But I still can't recommend it as it's not made for conductivity , though it is better than IPA I feel. Try using INOX sparingly and wipe it off more? Cheers Gregg.
Hi, my name is Scott and I live in Minnesota USA I just have to tell you that I watched your video a few years ago about using INOX mx3 from Australia and it took a while for me to find the INOX but since I’ve started using it, I can’t believe how wonderful and enjoyable it is to see my trains running so well. Thank you for the information and I love watching your video you talk like a normal person and you’re funny, I love it.
I just recently started cleaning my Z scale track using CRC 2-26 and I was completely amazed with the results. My trains are running much better now and there have been no more locomotives stalling at random spots.
Before the CRC 2-26, I was using IPA to clean the locomotive wheels and using wooden craft sticks, soaked in IPA, to clean the rails. The trains did not perform well and as a result, moved on to märklin HO, then OO Gauge, then finally G gauge (I was using the track rubber to clean the HO track).
After watching your first video on how not to clean your track and what to use instead, I gave it some really good thought. But then I was put off by “One Person named Sam” and wasn’t sure about giving Inox a try.
Eventually I decided to give Inox a try, but could not find it anywhere, so I got some CRC 2-26 and tried it when I cleaned the wheels, pick-up wipers, and motor brushes on an older Hornby 0-4-0T locomotive and I was amazed with the results. Before the locomotive was running erratically, but now it runs like it’s new.
I’ve now confidently gone back to Z scale knowing I will enjoy trouble free running now that I’m cleaning the track the right way.
Thank you so much for sharing your secret to well clean track and locomotive wheels. It is very greatly appreciated.
I’m keeping the IPA on my workbench, but now it’s only for cleaning the metal mesh on my Apple Air Pods and wired ear buds. As for the track rubber: it’s earned an all expense paid one way trip to the bottom of the ocean.
Hi Raymond,
Thank you for telling me your story! This is why I did these two videos , to help modellers get better performance from their trains, and I'm glad you got the results I promised!
As for poor old Sam...he's just a boy living in his mum's loft , watching trains go round in circles..LOL
But thanks to his little panic attack, I did get more people coming to watch my videos!
Just one thing, keep the spray away from your motor brushes....it will make the carbon dust stick together, but a one time clean will be ok.
Thanks again for the kind comments and for letting me know how it went.
Cheers Gregg.
Thanks Gregg. I've been using CRC 2-26 for several years now and I've never had a problem with traction or electrical pick up with it. As far as cleaning wheels. I only clean them once if and when I purchase used rolling stock and they are excessively dirty. Now here is a trick I use for cleaning track after I've weathered it or after ballasting. I glued cork roadbed to a small block of wood and spritz a little CRC on it and rub over the track to remove the paint or glue from the tops of the rails. The cork scrubs the rails but doesn't scratch them. Much better then a track rubber and nonabrasive.
Hi Ken ,
Cork is an old trick and I use it myself for the same reason! It does soak up a little spray and some people use it for normal track cleaning , though I prefer a rag as it holds more dirt. I'm glad the CRC is working for you and thanks for the comment and for watching!
Gregg :-)
I have to thank you for your first video on track cleaning. I was using a contact cleaner but found it did clean off initial dirt and dust but did not improve the running performance. In fact I was getting extremely frustrated to the point I didn't want to operate my trains. On your recommendation I got CRC and it made an immediate difference. In fact I only cleaned the track once in about a month and still running without issue. The only issue I ran into was on a 2 percent grade I had some slipping. Must have used too much CRC. Appreciate your videos. Thanks again.
Hi David , you hit the nail on the head when it comes to Contact cleaner! I'm glad you got great results from the CRC and yes , maybe you used a little too much? Inox is not as "slippery" but you will learn how much CRC to use and you can always add more power to a train!!
Thanks for the feedback and I appreciate the support.
Cheers Gregg.
Yup, it's been about a year since I made the switch from IPA, my layout runs flawlessly. Thank you again.
You're welcome and I appreciate the feedback! Thank you for watching and I'm glad yo got great results!
Gregg :-)
I know I'm late the the party here but great videos Greg, track rubber has found the bottom of my bin and my locos run better then ever.
Thanks for your awesome advice 🤙
Hi Andy , I'm glad you found the videos and got the results I promised! Better late than never and thanks for the comments and feedback.
Cheers Gregg.
Hi from accross the ditch I have been able to purchase inox here and very happy with the result . I had found after an hour of cleaning my tracks with IPa I would start to have issues. But now with inox a day later a week later all is good .
Thats great! It is amazing how many people now tell me that IPA did cause issues with conductivity..so I'm glad it not just me..LOL . Thanks for the feedback and I'm glad you got good results from the Inox!
Cheers Gregg.
Inox is great and works a treat. I'll back it all the way. Being an Aussie I've used it for years for many purposes but thanks to you for putting me on to it for my layout.
Hi Peter, I'm glad you're getting great results from it and happy to help! We use it on real signals and turnout machines at work..so it handles the big stuff too..LOL.
Cheers Gregg.
HAHAHA, I love your videos Gregg! Your presentation is thoroughly enjoyable and hilarious.
Thanks Deryk! I appreciate the comments and support sir.
Gregg :-)
This video and the previous track cleaning do's and don'ts have been very helpful. I'm in South Africa and although I haven't found Inox, I did manage to track down a tin of CRC 2-26 and have tried it out on my layout in the last couple of weeks...It has made a massive difference. Even my poorest running loco is going pretty smoothly now. Many thanks for the helpful advice Gregg.
"Howzit" Matt! Thanks for watching the videos and telling me your results! It's great to see peoples trains running better and you'll now see all your wheels start to clean up as well...just keep wiping that track when necessary!
Thanks and cheers , Gregg.
Gregg, great follow up on the track cleaning saga. Love the way you tackle this, track cleaning rubbers after all are abrasive and will therefore shorten the lifespan of track. In my former occupation as a plumber I often used sprays comparable to crc or inox, for example to clean stainless steel. Where most other products fail, because they bite through the outer protective layer, these sprays really improve the lifespan of the very layer, hence improve the lifespan of the metal. Regarding most of our track are of similar metallurgy as stainless steel, these sprays will most certainly help much, much better than the obnoxious track cleaning rubbers, vacuum systems, etc. Thanks for sharing. Vincent
Thanks for watching and the comments Vincent! Yes , our track is really quiet delicate in a way, but if looked after, will last a lifetime as you say. I have track that is decades old and looks no different to new rail. I'm glad you like the videos and thanks for the support.
Cheers Gregg.
Awesome video Gregg, glad to see so many people are happy with the results. It makes the hobby so much more enjoyable when the trains run well, especially when the sounds keep dropping out because of dirty track. Keep alives are also not as essential
Thanks Neale! We pay a ot for the models, so they need to run the best they can as far as I'm concerned.
I say that keep alives are a poor substitute for reliable railway :-).
Cheers Gregg.
Thanks for the tip, INOX has worked a treat for my small DC layout. Not easy to find in the UK though. No more IPA!
Hi Tezza...glad you got great results and threw away the IPA !! You can get INOX from Pendal Slot Racing in Lancashire apparently!
Thanks for the feedback and tell your friends!
Cheers Gregg. 🙂
Beautifully smooth slow running freighter there Gregg - a testament to your inox usage. 👍
Thanks Phillip! Yes the Inox is the key , as is good trackwork and adjusted CV's .😏
Hi Greg, it’s Ben 4 months and I haven’t needed to clean track or wheels!! THANK YOU
Hi Gary , thats; great news! You must have a clean room...? I get so much road dust coming in to mine! Go over parts of the layout from time to time, just to refresh the coating and se how dirty the rag is, this will give you an idea of how often you need to do a maintenance clean.
Thanks for the feedback !
Gregg :-)
Hi Gregg ,just had a running season with a mate that came over at Easter , hadn't run the layout in 4 months .
A little vacuum a some CRC on the lay out all good to go, as far as the small percentage of %$#@ TARDS I would suggest they apply critical analysis in their argument .
Can't put brains into statues , I've trialed both products over the last 12 months , I think it's a photo finish both seem to be very good.
My layout is in a garage which isn't sealed so it is a great testament to how well these products perform not to mention the hours saved cleaning track.
Once again a very good video as for those dislikes that must mean you are doing something right keep up the good work thanks .
Thank you for a great video. I love how you tell it like it is and keep it real. They need to put this video on Model Railroader Video Plus because they reference the Bright Boy quite often. I’m also loving the scenery. Cheers!
Thank you Bob! Always appreciate your support and maybe someone will send the link to MR ?? They're livin' in the past man..LOL
Cheers Gregg.
Is Alcohol is good to clean fastrack.
@@arthursogaugelioneltrains5744 It will clean it but not recommended for long term use.
Thank you very much.
@@arthursogaugelioneltrains5744 You're welcome. Try using CRC 2-26, or Inox , it will clean and protect your rais in one go !
Gregg .
Hi Gregg with 3 Gs ha.... after watching your videos last year, I went on the hunt for CRC 2-26, I found some on good ol Amazon. A standard for me now when cleaning locomotive wheels is.... turn the loco upside down in a foam cradle, apply power with a short piece of track and get the wheels turning slow but not too slow. Dip a cotton swab in lacquer thinner, then apply to the wheel tread. After cleaning all the wheels, I then dip another cotton swab in a jar of 2-26 and apply it to the wheel treads as well. Seams to do the trick. Unfortunately, I don't currently have a layout to wipe the track with your method.
nearly a rant there Greg, but it’s an important, usually overlooked, part of the hobby that sneaks up on the unsuspecting enthusiast who in turn goes to abrasives to resolve the issue, and so begins the black hole spiral.
thanks for your great episode.
Almost ..LOL . I don't give wheels a second thought and havent for over a decade....so it must work!
Thanks for watching:-)
Hi Gregg, I have been using the woodland scenics track cleaning pads soaked in Inox. That seems to work quite well I use the pads that their track cleaning fluid is used with. Ian
Hi Ian, thats great but remember you don't need very much and the pad will hold enough for a few wipes before you apply more.
Thanks for watching.
Gregg.
I haven't seen INOX in the USA yet. Been using CRC for over 5 years now and since this is the first time I've seen one of your videos I had to think long & hard to realize you were talking about Isopropyl Alcohol.
Hi Ron , I'm not a beer drinker so I didn't get the IPA reference..LOL. I trust the CRC is working for you and thank you for the comment and for watching!
Cheers Gregg.
Watched your videos. Found the only UK supplier who is in fact a slot car specialist. Ordered the one size pump action spray. Have now applied it to my O gauge layout and guess what, you are not wrong. It instantly improved the running throughout and even on a couple of previously sticky locos that I had also applied the liquid to the pick ups.
Hi Greg,
Thanks for getting back to me regarding your results! You're part of a growing family who enjoy better running locomotives and it is neat to see it working on O gauge..I'l have to check out your videos!
Thanks again and Cheers.
Gregg.
Yup, this has been my experience also, thanks....Also, polishing the rails first with a chrome plated washer first, takes out all minute scratches that hold dirt out of the rail
Thats great Dwight! The washer is a good idea if the rails have been damaged /scratched by abrasive cleaning.
Thanks for the feedback and for watching.
Gregg.
Thanks for a great video, I use go gone which works really good for me.
Regards John
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Thanks John! Glad you enjoyed the video.
Cheers Gregg.
Greg you saved my life today, had a slipping incline on my layout, suddenly remembered what you said about Inox sold by Bunnings, gave the track a spray and bingo no more wheel slip. I can thoroughly recommend it to stop wheel slipping. Yes it is a lubricant don't know how it works but it does.
Because of your so called "advice" I stopped using rubbers. Now she's threatening to sell my F5 to pay for the diapers.
(Thanks for real, mate! Love your videos!)
You caught me just after I laid my first bit of track so Inox is the only way I've ever cleaned it. Wish I could buy you a cold one. 🍻
LOL...nice one Charles! I'm glad you enjoy the videos and it's cool to hear of peoples success after using Inox ect. I'll take you up on a wee dram one day!
Cheers Gregg.
Inox has worked a treat on mine. As you said it continues to work well after the initial clean. I use mine with a track cleaning car and chase it with a few locos at a time
That's great to hear! Thanks for the feedback and I appreciate the support.
Gregg :-)
You are so right. 👍👍👍👍👍
LOL...Thank you and I'm glad you like the video!
Gregg :-)
Hi Gegg, just found your channel from the UK, being a railway modeller for the past 40yrs, tried all sorts of stuff from track rubbers, track cleaning cars etc, you name it I've probally tried it, my thoughts here and I could be wrong is that when a loco is running there is a tiny spark where it makes contact with the track "arcing" you cant see this but this is what causes the track and wheels to become dirty, assuming they are clean in the first place. my method that I have used for years is 'lighter fluid' on a cotton bud its amazing how much muck it shifts.
Hi and thanks for watching! The arcing is a theory , but DCC is AC and actually helps keep track cleaner as it changes polarity and give less time for dirt to build. We use AC on real railway track circuits in areas that have little traffic , so the train wheels can make contact through the rust. Also on the model we are not pulling any current, (with modern locos) so arcing would be almost nothing. Sprays like Inox & CRC do help with arcing but have other advantages too. Try some in place of lighter fluid and see how it goes?
Gregg :-)
Dear Gregg can I use inox in a track cleaning car or just on a rag I am in the UK great video on track cleaning mate super informative keep up the good work buddy track rubber gone in the bin thanks so much buddy
Thank you and I'm glad you enjoy the videos! Yes you can use INox in a track cleaning car, but be careful not to apply too much!
Cheers Gregg
@@FishplateFilms thanks Gregg
@@FishplateFilms gregg what are your thoughts on running trains in the cold as its very cold over here in the uk at the moment its really cold in my loft has been for days now thanks buddy
.... and wheel question answered! Thanks Greg!
LOL...Thanks Darren! Iwas just about to tell you to watch this video! Keep wiping the black off your rails with Inox , and you will automatically clean your wheels !
Glad you enjoyed the videos.
Cheers Gregg.
I like using Gilbert track cleaner if I can find it. Lionel makes a service kit which has track cleaning fluid in it which should be just as good. What do you think of those cleaners? I know the old HO track cleaners have alcohol in them but maybe the new cleaners don't I don't know. I hear CRC 226 is really good but I don't have any right now. I have used pure mineral oil, NOT mineral spirits! That smells, the pure mineral oil has no odor at all. Track is clean and shiny and so are wheels. Nothing feels oily either.
THANK YOU...for sharing. I guess I will have to stop using 80 grit sandpaper for cleaning my track, the sand gets jammed into the trucks. LOL
You're welcome Sir! I think it's time to put the sandpaper back on the toilet roll :-)
Gregg :-)
I might get shot to pieces here but I use Auto transmission fluid only a few drops placed around the layout. Like the inox it also leaves a film on the rails which can be wiped off very easily and the locos run ever so smoothly as the wheels pick it up then spreads the ATF across the layout
Hi Steve,
You won't get shot ...ATF is an old school trick I used 30 yrs ago..LOL. It does work to a degree, but may I suggest moving on to a product that is designed for electrical use? Treat yourself to a small can of Inox or CRC 2-26 and compare the results ....just for me :-)
Thanks for watching.
Gregg.
@@FishplateFilms I actually work in a place that sells inox, how slack am I 😳
@@steveweatherly1965 LOL....well there's no excuse then Steve! Let me know what you think?
Gregg.
@@FishplateFilms well Gregg, although I'm on holidays ATM I went into work and purchased a small spray bottles of inox. Without any cleaning of track or engines I sprayed a couple of places around the layout and set the trains off, I prob hadn't run any of the trains for well over 12 months and after a couple of helpful pushes with the hand of God they took off and ran like a dream. I'm converted. I only have a poor looking DC layout which I bought several years ago off someone who was chucking it out. If you have an email address I'll email a couple sort videos and you can see what a difference it made on my layout.
Regards
Steve
@@steveweatherly1965 Hi Steve, thats great news and you have proven the science behind the video! If you can , post the videos on your channel , and i'll check them out! let me know either way.
Cheers Gregg.
Yep...been using CRC for a few years....no problems running trains....great video
Thank you ! Thats great that you're getting good results for the CRC. I appreciate the feedback and comments.
Cheers Gregg.
Good to see a gr8 aussie giving good honest oppinions and fair dinkum advice to us train nuts ,, or for the better saying 1 train nut to anuvva train nut haha ,, soo good on ya m8 i had a gr8 larf at the funnyness of your oarsum wit and gr8 videos.
Liked and subscribed.
Cheers from John in Australia.
I've always had issues with dirty track and keeping trains from stalling. I started using mineral spirits and CRC 2-26 to clean my track about a month ago. I haven't had a locomotive stall since but I also noticed a drastic decrease in the number of locomotive derailments caused by a picked switch. I believe the use of isopropyl alcohol left the flanges dry and made them more aggressive and likely to ride up on the rail. With CRC 2-26 the flanges are lubricated and it seems the locomotives and rolling stock ride smoother.
Thats' good to hear Brandon! I would suggest you look at wheel gauge on any cars that pick the switch , and or check that the switch is housed correctly? You can also file the tip of the switch very gently to help with wheels picking! But I'm sure the CRC does help a bit!
Cheers Gregg.
I have been using your method since I saw your last video and my trains are running great, I sound like a broken record like everyone else. Thanks
That's great and thank you ! Not a broken record at all....you're just proving the science !
Cheers Gregg .
Hi Greg ,I model the steel industry, did inox on my ho layout about 1 year ago, and all my Locomotives still never stalled not even on my switches never cleaned the track one time it's been 1 year now, I wipe a little in in one spot let the train do the rest ,AND never ever clean my wheels ALL nice and shiny, just wanted to thank you my friend, for the advice, god bless and good rail reading thanks again
Hi Rick,
Thanks for the feedback , and I'm glad you are getting the results I promised! That's great to hear and thats why I did the video...tell your friends and happy railroading:-)
GRegg.
Hi Gregg, another great, hilarious video. I have been using Inox since I saw your "Track cleaning do's and don'ts". Found it at our local Auto 1, and Super Cheap. Works great!
Thanks very much John! I'm glad you got great results from Inox and thank you for watching and the support!
Cheers Gregg.
I recently brought some new trains to replace some older ones with traction tyres.
Looking forward to trying the inox and seeing how it goes as I’m in a shed and the track gets dirty quickly.
Very good! Let me know how it goes for you!
Cheers,
Gregg.
Hi Greg, yes got back to you before to say how over the moon I am since I began to use Inox after your video. That was back in last August I started using it. Here in the UK, Only have a small roundy roundy in a shed so yes the cloth and the track gets dirty but theres parts of the track hidden in tunnels I have never needed to clean, I just wipe a few feet of easy to get to track clean with a new application of Inox and let the train running do the rest. Not a flicker on the train lights as it crawls along (unlike before) and never had to clean loco or stock wheels. Ohh no problem with traction tyres as my stock don't have any :)
All the best love your videos (like the rants to :) ) Cheers Peter
Hi Peter, thanks for the report on your trail of Inox! It's great to see more positive stories with smooth running trains!
Best wishes and cheers,
Gregg.
@@FishplateFilms Hi Peter, I have a similar small layout as well. Im also in the UK and would like to try Inox but can't seem to find a seller. Any chance you could tell me where you bought yours? Cheers, John.
@@johnnyz3354 Pendel Slot Racing or DCC Solutions!
Gregg :-)
@@FishplateFilms Hi Gregg, thanks for the info, I'll check them out. Cheers, Johnny.
Thanks for the video on track cleaning Ron's Trains and Things Told me about you to watch the video. I like it. I well see of I can find it THANK YOU Idaho USA
Thanks Stanley! Chers to you in Idaho. Let me know how you get on with using it.
Gregg.:-)
IPA I thought you were talking about beer I thought to myself I drink my beer I don't put it on my tracks lol 😂 great video very informative thank you
Thanks for the great tips. To the point and honest.
My pleasure Zane! No BS here ..LOL
Thanks for watching.
Gregg.
I listened, I purchased CRC, I applied, and now my trains are running much better.
That's great Neil! Thanks for the feedback and I'm glad you got the desired results.
Gregg :-)
I use Inox and am very happy with it, I was cleaning my track daily, with IPA, I now apply Inox to the pad on an old Triangle track cleaner box car and run it around a few times every few months.
I occasionally polish thick black deposits with a champagne cork.
The Inox caused the traction tyres on an old Lima loco to stretch and fall off.
Thanks for the tip. Peter. (Australia)
Thats great news Peter! As more stories come in about IPA , I may have to do another video just on that?
Cork does a good job and is an old favourite and I'm glad you got good results using INox. I haven't heard the word "LiMA in a few decades..LOL
Thanks for watching ,
Cheers Gregg.
Now greg is this inox the same as using lanolin.?? I have been using transmission fluid for about three years now and it does much the same as inox, I don't have to clean my wheels i just have to make sure i don't put to much on the rail or else I have problems with the engine's wheels slipping. Love your videos mate keep them comming.
Hi Joe,
I did try a Lanolin spray net to INox a few years ago, and it worked pretty much the same , except that lanolin dries a bit sticky ( as it is a grease) so I found inox to be a bit better as it does not dry out . Trnny fluid is a old trick , but it's not made for the purpose ...but still better than a rubber and IPA !
Thanks for watching and the kind comments!
Cheers Gregg.
Greg, another great video and I can confirm all you are saying is true. Both my friend (who uses CRC 2 26) and myself,( I use Inox MP3) also have no need in cleaning wheels. All our wheels are metal. We both have been doing this since the 1980's.
Thanks Terry! Well there you go! I wish I'd started that early..LOL. I don't even think of it anymore and it's far easier to clean dirt off track , than off wheels!
I appreciate the feedback and for watching.
Cheers, Gregg.
Lately I've been focusing on American Flyer s gauge operating on origional tinplate rail. As this is an ac system arcing and carbon quickly lead to operational issues. I've estimated that for every 2 hours of operation I need to clean the track...which can be dirty in a single pass. I also been using alchohol to clean the rail heads. I did a some initial testing using crc lightly coating the rails...which while continuing to be dirty...did give better performance. I have most tests to make but I'm encouraged by what you have shared and what I see. Track maintenance has been the only thing I dont like about these antique trains.
I'm sure some Inox /CRC on the rails will help a lot as the alcohol will only impede performance . Let me know how your tests go!
Cheers Gregg.
@@FishplateFilms thus far it has been interesting. I might mention that I have dunno dc and dcc and noticed how very little track cleaning was needed for dcc. My tin plate is a much different critter. Arching/carbon build up happens quickly and i spend alot of time cleaning wheels and track...to this point has been with denatured alchohol. So I'm very interested in your thoughts and experience.
With the crc I still get carbon/dirt buildup on wheels but it is not caked on hard like I typically see. The cloth used to put down the crc is black. I see the rails getting dirty with lots of buildup. And this will impede conductivity. I then lay down more crc. And conductivity is improved. I did notice the rails are slippery when I first put the crc down. I have not checked to see if the product you use is available here in the states. Would you have another recommendation other than crc? I had some and as I watched your video thought I would try it. I'll be posting a few videos on my site about it in the near future.
Thank you for your great tip, I'm new to model railways and found your information helpful
Hi Noel and welcome to the hobby! I'm glad you enjoyed the video and found it useful., as track cleaning is a basic chore in model railroading!
Thanks for watching.
Cheers Gregg.
Hi Greg, thanks for the tip, I use Inox on taping and cleaning threads in the process of restoring my steam roller, yes a full size one.
You're welcome Mark! Yes it's a great product and works on all things big and small! Good luck with your restoration!
Gregg.
Greg, thanks for your latest vid. It got me going to give the my layout tracks a clean, works a treat. The tracks instantly got their shine back. Like yourself I also throw a wobbly when a loco has a stop start tanty. Now running nice and smooth. Keep up the good work. Kind regards Gerry.
Hi Gerry, I'm glad it worked for you and you can see the difference! Thanks for the feedback and for watching!
Gregg.
Thanks Greg, you sold me on inox on the first video. I have only cleaned my wheels once on my locos and stock and wont be doing it again.
O gauge makes this difficult anyway with the size & weight etc. Must get some more inox. Thanks once again 👍🏼 best wishes. Julian.
Hi Julian, I'm glad you got good results from Inox and it's cool to see it being used on O gauge! Thanks for the feedback and for watching.
Cheers Gregg.
Hi Gregg, I must have missed the bit in your previous video about using Inox with traction tyres causing a problem. I had a 4-4-0 with traction tyres and after using Inox it would no longer go up the incline. I became rather distressed as it was the only loco that would pull a good rake of carriages up the incline whereas other locos only managed 2 or 3. However, I have seen a video by Sams Trains (who disagreed with Inox) doing a video on how to change the axle set with traction tyres to one without. This is the route I will have to go down to solve that problem . . . and buy a loco that has more pulling power to pull more carriages up the incline. I hadn't used Inox since then, but now having seen your update and read some of the reviews I going to revert back to it. I am wondering whether using Methylated Spirit on the rubber would help clean the traction tyres? Wish me luck.
Hi Richard, Thanks again for watching ! Ahh yes...porr old Sam sitting all alone in his mum's attic ..LOL.
As you have said , there are dozens of comments on both videos, from people who's trains have never run better since using INOX and throwing away there IPA and track rubbers...so the proof is in the pudding!
IMO , traction tyres are an excuse for a poorly designed loco, and anything on the rails will render them useless. They also take the weight of the mid drivers, so you are left with only the front and rear axels touching the rails , so Sam is right in changing the wheels out to get rid of the traction tyres! Also adding weight to the loco , if possible will help too! GO back to Inox and enjoy smooth running SIr!
Cheers Gregg.
Hi Gregg....I’m still using Inox...trains still running...it’s a no brainier really.
Even with my eyesight on my n gauge track I could see the scratches on it from the dreaded track rubber.
Keep up the great videos mate, they really are a pleasure to watch👍
Ron.
HI Ron, thank you for the feedback and then positive comments! I'm glad you got the results I promused and thanks again for watching!
Cheers Gregg.
Gregg. INOX. or INOX MX3. what's the difference, and which one should I use??
Mike, Island Central Trains and Hobbies Drummond Island. Michigan USA
Hi Michael, thanks for watching the video! INOX- MX3 is the one you want , the other one is more of a lubricant only. Let me know how it works for you.
Cheers Gregg.
Humm sounds Polo rising to me lol good info Don't know if it's in the states but crc is..
Thanks Bernard! Give CRC 2-26 a try !
CHeers Gregg.
Try using some alcohol to clean tracks
Thanks for the follow up , great video .
Thank you Jerry! I'm happy that you like the content.
Cheers Gregg.
Another great video Greg. I will never get rid of my track rubber from Japan. The HOZAN K-142 #320 is by far the bestist of the best track rubbers. I did do the INOX bit after your advice and feel that it should not be used until your track has been painted & weathered. It is after all an oil. After paint & weathering , sure go for it. It does work, & your advice is sound as an electrician. Now here is one for ya. CRC mass air flow cleaner. Plastic safe for cleaning motors & compotator's. Wouldn't use it on track & wheel, but for internals it does wash the crud out.. Keep them videos coming Greg, Espesh the Adelaide hill's ones.
Gregg, Started using INOX on my N scale layout a day or two ago. Can't believe all the black coming off the rails. How many cleanings might it take before the amount of black stuff is minimized? weeks? months? Thanks.
It is very easy to use. I have cut up an old heavier tee shirt into sort of small squares and hold them around a short piece of wood that is roughly 1" x 3/4" x 2 3/4". This works well in N holding it vertically. It really glides along the track. I've been thinking that it would be nice if there was a way to hold the cloth to the stick with something like velcro.
Have you ever tried cleaning the points where they contact the stock rails with INOX? If so how did it work out? Thanks. Amby N
HI Amby,
I'm glad you good great results! It depends on your environment and how much you run your layout? There will always been some grime , as the rails pickup dirt from the wheels and the surface of the track oxidises , but you will get to know how often to clean . I use Inox all the time on my switch rails in my turnouts!
Thanks for watching.
Gregg
Hi Greg, i suppose i can use the Inox with a track cleaning car,. Love your hints.
Thanks Peter! Yes , Inox is great in na cleaning car , but don't use too much!
Gregg .
I really need to get back to my layout. Got to make some bents for the trestle - this vid Re-ignited my passion (not physically like those people and their track rubbers...) Anyway, it's been my experience that people who respond with great anger are often afraid that they are wrong, which upsets them. Anyway, thanks for the great info - been using inox from the very start thanks to you. Having been on hiatus, I need to go clean it again. Thanks, for the help.
Thanks Charles! I've been away from mine for a few weeks , due to working on the house and other things! No one likes being proved wrong, but it's better to learn and move on with more knowledge....happens to me all the time..LOL. Great to see the INOX is working well for you and I appreciate the feedback and support!
Cheers Gregg.
Great video Gregg. A good informative video for everyone who don't really know how to clean the track.I use a rotating felt pad type of car, asas well as a Masonite track sliderunder a railcar.Good stuff, my friend!
Thank you Sir! I wish they still made the AZtec cars , they were a terrific design !
All the best ,
Gregg
Absolutely great stuff for the rails 👍👍👍 cheers!
Yes it works a treat Jason!
Thanks for watching.
Gregg.
Brilliant! I've just started the hobby. Your videos are great.
No worries Chris! Welcome aboard and I'm glad you like the videos!
Cheers Gregg.
Well... after your other 2 videos I thought I had come up with a solution for keeping IPA in the mix. My experience is that it does a good job cleaning gunk and dirt off the tracks. I learned that it leaves a residue from you so I set up 3 cleaning cars in a row. CMX with IPA followed by a pad with DeOx and then a CMX Roller to dry off. Well I still needed to clean about once a month.
After seeing this IPA will be removed from the train room. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
Hi Gary , you will find that Inox / CRC will clean justs as good as IPA. I don't know if DeOX leaves a protective film , but guessing it does by the name?
Thanks for watching.
Gregg.
Thanks for the video on track cleaning works very well. 👍
Thanks for watching Lindsay.
Gregg.
I never had any problems using IPA however after watching your earlier video and reading an article by Joe Fugate (USA) I switched to kerosene and have been impressed by how long the tracks now stay clean.
IPA's issues will creep up on you after a while and I think it also depends how much and how often you use it as well. Kerosine is a new one, but it is better than IPA in the fact that it will leave a film on the rails .
Interesting and if you like the results , then go for it.
Thanks for watching.
Gregg.
Another great video Been following all your recommendations and methods and so far everything is working out perfectly. Love from Detroit
Thank you very much! Glad you're getting good results and I appreciate the feedback and for watching.
Gregg :-)
Thanks for the advice. To clarify, do you mean CRC 2-26 (called “multi purpose lubricant”, Manufacturer Model Number 72005) or CRC “Heavy Duty Corrosion Inhibitor” (Manufacturer Model # 76026). As well, Do you ( or followers) know where I can buy Inox, CRC or a comparable product at retail in the Toronto, Ontario Canada area?
One of my favorite videos.
Thanks very much Art" Means a lot :-). Email regarding the IM motor on the way.
Cheers Gregg.
@@FishplateFilms A local club in the area, who does not believe me want to disagree about alcohol I gave up. Then you post that video sent every member the link. Do not here any more comments from them about there oxidized track. I use ACT 6006 never have to polish rails.
@@arthurhouston3 You're a trouble maker Art'..LOL. Thanks for spreading the good word Sir!
Gregg.
@@arthurhouston3 Yep that's typical of clubs a bunch of old farts who haven't caught up with the 212st century
@@shaunhuckstepp7531 think it's people who just do not have the knowledge of what's going on. In the case of the club young and old. They had a big moisture issue also.
Greg do you know if the name of the product is the same in Canada? I'll have to check our Rail Hobby store. Our part of the world is currently in a lock down so it definitely will be a few weeks before I can visit a store. Love your videos even the mini rants, brings a smile to my face. Keep up the great work looking forward to the next release.
Thank you John! CRC 2-26 is very similar, but you can get Inox on Amazon apparently? I'm glad you enjoy the videos and I almost put a rant in this one..LOL.
Stay safe and cheers,
Gregg.
Great video Gregg, always good stuff and very funny at the same time. I missed the first cleaning video but I’m going to watch next. Might have to pick up some CRC or Inox (depending on what’s available here in the US). Hope the layout progress is going well. Take care. - Steve
Thank you Steve! I see you have ordered some CRC, so let me know how it goes for you! Not a lot of progress on the layout as of late, as I will be shifting in about 18mths time, so only scenery practice for now!
Gregg :-)
@@FishplateFilms will do and look forward to the next updates. Sometimes a break is a good thing as it allows us to recharge our batteries!
@@FishplateFilms Gregg, did you ever encounter slippage on the locomotives after using the CRC. Experiencing a bit with them climbing my helix since using CRC? Just curious if you had it on any of your grades and if it went away over time and on its own. Thanks! - Steve
@@CajonSub Hi Steve, with HO scale it made very little difference, but with N scale I guess you have to be a little more careful? It will dry out or you could go over the Helix with a dry rag .....or just add more locos!! Also I use Inox, which has slightly different properties and may be less slick? You'll end working out how much you need to use:-)
Gregg.
@@FishplateFilms false alarm. Had a loco in the consist that wasn’t turning/pulling so it was creating excessive drag. It happened right after I wiped the rails with CRC so I just assumed that was the issue. All good, fixed the locomotive and the consist runs great again. So far, I’m impressed with the CRC, rails were nasty too. Thanks for the tips/help! - Steve
I must have missed the CRC product, what is the alternative CRC product you are suggesting? May 2019 MRH e-Magazine was suggesting WD-40 contact cleaner or CRC contact cleaner & protectant was better than CRC 2-26.
Hi Nigel , CRC 2-26 is the alternative sir. Contact cleaners do not provide continued protection from oxidation and are used for different reasons. Also you would not use INOX to clean switch contacts in closed situations.
Cheers Gregg.
I threw out the rubber and I'm not screwing with oils or alcohols anymore, so thank you! I'm actually getting away without Inox (still bought some) and just wiping down with a dry microfiber towel.
Thanks William! Depending on your location and how clean your room , a little wipe with Inox will help with conductivity!
Just use a little when you see a hick up!
Cheers Gregg.
Great video Gregg - I have to try your method ⭐️🌟🔆💫‼️ Cheers, Volker
Hi Volker! Yes , give it a go and you won't be disappointed! I saw your diorama on the Gramm' ....absolutely fantastic sir! Let me know how it goes for you , though you may have to use CRC 2-26 if you can't get Inox?
Cheers Gregg.
FishplateFilms Hi Gregg, ok thank you 👍⭐️🌟🔝 We have CRC 2-26 here in Germany and I will let you know how it will work....☝️
Thank you once again and greetings to Australia,
Volker
This may sound stupid but I use methylated spirits on the cloth roller of my cleaning carriage to clean the tracks on the move when my locomotive tows a cleaning carriage to clean the tracks while doing laps on the track. Yes, the methylated spirits did evaporate but most of the dirt and grease did clean my tracks and still conducting electricity.
Just to let you know.
Hi Nathan,
That is another old school method that does work, but does not leave a film to help prevent oxidation and help with dirt removal...but it's still better than IPA and a track rubber!
Cheers Gregg.
I have not seen information in the video or comments as to if the INOX is safe using with Lionel or MTH trains with traction tires. I'd love to try this product, but do not want to damage the traction tires.
Hi Peter,
Inox will not harm the traction tyres, but it will cause them to slip on the rails, like cars on a wet slick roads. But with the weight of O scale , it may not be a problem?
Cheers Gregg.
@@FishplateFilms First, Thank you for your reply. I have two elevated levels. Would wiping the residue as much as possible have any effect?
My boss is going to hate your Greg..... He is going to have some cans of Inox go missing lmao.
I'm going to have to give this a go, I struggle to keep both the track and the wheels clean especially on some of the older steam engines.
My environment is the biggest factor, close to salt air blowing of the lake and ocean, and the other 2 is the fall out of fine dust from the steelworks (which is 5 km as the crow flies) and coal dust. The last 2 gives me the biggest problems, as the dust is so so fine.
I'll give this a go, even Gary from Moss Vale had said the same thing.
Thank you for sharing your tip.
LOL...sounds like you have the perfect storm there! INOX will definitely help , as will a vacuum of the tacks every now and then. I have the freeway and have to clean my tracks every week or two , as the tyre dust is amazing! Give it a go and let me know how you get on , and remember it will be an ongoing job!
Thanks for watching .
Gregg.
@@FishplateFilms lol yeah it's an excellent storm.
Funny thing is I just finished cleaning the new track work before I watched this clip which Creepy013 told me to watch, even watched Chadwicks video of it and had explained some of the issues I have.. Trying to be smart and have it all done before my surgery on my right hand.
So now what I will do is get my 2 Atlas / Duplo electric track cleaners, fill the tanks with INOX and re do it before train operations. Another issue now is the troublesome steam engines, Should I use Inox on my test track, and run it on a pad to clean those wheels?!?! Will have to give it a go single handerdly lol
I'll let you know and do a video off it too.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
Arty
@@FishplateFilms It worked really well, I placed the INOX in one of the Atlas Track cleaning cars. It made a giant improvement and difference. Cleaned up so much black gunk of the tracks.
Video link
ruclips.net/video/w7gYGWDz93o/видео.html
thank great super detail video
Thanks Robert! Glad you enjoyed it.
Gregg .
I just bought inox on line and I have inox mx4 with lanolin will this do what I need to clean track and wheels. Thanks
It will be fine Tony, Just remember that the lanolin can leave a slightly sticky film , as opposed to the MX-3 , which does not dry out. I did try Lanolin spray as well as INOX, and it seemed to work pretty much the same.
Cheers Gregg.
hi a great video mate. in the past i have used lighter fluid and a cloth to clean my track with very good results. i am now going to try inox wish me luck. cheers tom.
Thanks Thomas! You don't need luck sir.......just enjoy the results!
Cheers Gregg.
@@FishplateFilms cheers mate
Hi love the videos do think wd40 would be good for cleaning the track?
Hi B man , I'm glad you enjoy the videos and thanks for watching! WD40 is not ideal as it contains more oils and is not really made for electrical gear. CRC 2-26 is a good choice if you can't get Inox. But WD40 is still better than a track rubber and IPA !
Cheers Gregg.
G'day, Gregg.
What are your thoughts on cleaning products based on and, mostly composed of, SiO2, Silicon Dioxide?
My intended application is the initial resurrection of 40 years stored nickel (I believe) plated Scalextric slot track.
Beyond that stage, for ongoing maintenance, I'm inclined to follow your model rail-track regime.
CAn't say I know much about nickel plated stuff? I assume it's plated tin, so you'll have to be careful ... sorry I an't give you any tips , but Innox after will be great.
Cheers Gregg.
@@FishplateFilms Thanks, Gregg. Yep, I have my tin of Inox, ready to go.
I've been looking into the various abrasive alternatives that people tout, these days. Stuff like Autosol, for instance which, I think now, maybe 400(?) grit.
Someone mentioned "Pink Stuff" and, Bunnings has a local lemon scented variant, both based on Silicon Dioxide. Made for kitchen polishing applications. I'm only guessing that they may be similar to Autosol. Still investigating.
I can't believe some RUclipsrs are advocating timber sandpaper and, steel wool, for track cleaning.
I've never allowed anything remotely abrasive near my track.
I heading off one of my steel wool wielding mates, with a well aimed banked curve to the nads and, the threat that it'd be a stanley knife, next time.
I was surprised to see you mention wet & dry. Of 3000 grit, if I recall. Any issues there, with risk of damaging the electro-plating?
I missed that video from last year. I always have gummy tracks and try to clean them...it comes back after a week or so. I just ordered and got my crc 2-26 (could not find inox). Just tested real fast where an engine would stall. It works perfectly with just one pass, I just put the crc on the tracks without pressing hard to remove any dirt to see how it would do. I saw that guy's video about the rubbers, I was wondering who he was talking about...hahaha, anyways great video and it makes perfect sense about a circuit between tracks and wheels. no circuit, no power :) now on to wipe those tracks....
Hi Robin, I'm glad you proved the science behind the video and got better running straight away! Now watch as your wheels should start to deposit there dirt onto the rails where you can easily remove it!
Thanks for watching the video and keep me posted on the results!
Cheers Gregg.
O K Gregg you've sold me on Inox . Now , how do I get it from there to here in Colorado and how much is it American $ ? Or maybe you can bring a can or two when you come for a visit ! LOL Scottie
Nice one Scottie! You can use CRC2-26 as a substitute , or Inox is available on Amazon so they say??
I'll be coming back to Colorado for sure , in the next year or two I hope...I'll pack a few cans..LOL
Let me know how it goes for you.
Cheers Gregg.
Gregg - is Inox and/or CRC 26 as effective on steel rail (ie, Tri-ang Series 3).
Yes Michael, it would certainly help with steel rail.
Gregg :-)
I have found another use for Inox. I have been having power issues especially around turnouts after ballasting. I finally found the fishplates we’re not making good contact. Maybe some thinned PVA had founds its way in. I tried dripping Inox into the fishplate joints using a toothpick. It wicked it’s way in. Problem solved. ( I try not to solder turnout fishplates)
Hi Peter, yes I use Inox on all my fishplates as well, like you , the ones not soldered!
Cheers Gregg.
When you said "IPA", I thought you meant India Pale Ale! And thought why would some Aussie waste beer on his track! 🤣
Yes, IPA is hydroscopic, as is Ethanol.
For some wild reason O Scale 2 rail runs better on Wahl Oil than clean dry track!
I'll have to try you method.
And of course you're video is polarizing, it's a video about electronics! 😂
LOL.. well you just answered a question on one comment about wasting beer...I didn't get it!! Yes Don , Wahl oil is an old favourite too, but INox is a modern twist on that in a way. Thanks for watching and let me know how it goes for you.
Cheers Gregg.
I like your style. I can also vouch for the crap on the wheels ending up on the track. I got some old Atlas track out, from years ago, thinking to reuse it and yes I did eventually get some of it clean but found that the residue on the track seemed to be wear from the plastic wheels of some of my boxcars. Most now have metal wheels so, job done there. Will the Inox harm plastic wheels? From my point of view this is a silly question as I cannot get the stuff in here in the UK anyway, and although I can get contact cleaner, as you say it is not the same or as good. Really appreciate the update on this. Cheers!
Thanks Clive! Inox is fine on plastic wheels but you wan't to get rid of them anyway! You can get Inox from Pendel Slot racing in Lancashire , and also from DCC Automation. CRC 2-26 is a good alternative:-)
Cheers Gregg.
looking for handheld Hoover for scenery can you recommend how powerful so don't DESTROY grass plants ect thanks
HI Michael, I use a normal vacuum , but I use the brush and have the air valve open on the handle. If you can find a handheld one with a brush , that may work?
Gregg.
@@FishplateFilms thanks not long started don't want to ruin it straight away great videos easy to follow advice in UK not many shops for advice thanks for replying
hi. what type of CRC can i use to clean tracks? CRC 2-26 multi purpose lubricant or CRC fast drying degreaser ? unfortunately Inox MX3 is not available in my country. thanks
The Multi purpose lubricant!
Cheers Gregg.
@@FishplateFilms tnks ozzi :)
Great video and tips.
Thank you! Glad you like it .
Gregg.
I managed to find a UK supplier of Inox and have been using it for about a year. So far, so good!
Thats's good news sir! Another success story for my "ban the rubber" campaign...LOL
Thanks for watching.
Gregg.
Any advice where one could obtain iNox here in England. Great videos
@@michaelhodson2188 try Pendle Slot Racing, which is where I ordered mine from. Costs about a tenner. Should last years though!
Hello Gregg, I saw a couple of videos about track cleaning and no video is really comprehensive (including this one, although is a great video). Your video leaves me with an open question what should I use, as all my engines have traction tires! Inox is not for me then! Can you please advise?
CRC really helps revive motors and brushes
How does it affect plastic wheels........great vid as always thanks
Thanks Pumpkin! First question....why do you still have plastic wheels..LOL. But seriously, plastic does attract a lot more dirt than metal , due to the static build up as they rotate, but Inox is safe with plastic , so you can keep them for a little longer :-)
Cheers Gregg.
Great video Gregg!
Thanks Douglas!
Hi again Gregg, I've just revisited the older video regarding track rubbers and IPA and read some of the comments and your replies. Ok so inox is not good for traction tyres. However I did read in one of your replies where you said it wasn't for him but for him to try 'Metho'. Is this Methylated Spirit? Are you suggesting cleanin the track with this rather than Inox?
Hi Richard, Thanks for watching the videos, and yes I did mention "Metho" and it is methylated spirits. But I still can't recommend it as it's not made for conductivity , though it is better than IPA I feel. Try using INOX sparingly and wipe it off more?
Cheers Gregg.