Scot here. I know that Hanneke Cassel plays the off-the-string cut but it's not traditional in Scotland or Ireland. Doesn't mean you shouldn't use it if you like it, but it should be a conscious choice because it's a bit eccentric. Personally I find it harder than the normal cut, which is difficult enough. So it's not where I'd start if I was teaching. To master the birl, I find it useful to think of it as a downbow with a percussive shake at the start, rather than as 3 separate bows. With many of the best exponents, the movement is barely visible. This is similar to the roll, where it's best to visualise it as a percussive interruption to the main note, rather than as a melodic phrase in its own right. Oh - and Jenny Dang the Weaver is very much a Scottish tune - even the Irish don't claim it!
Hi, Thank for this video. I think you verbally explained this well. I hope it’s ok for me to give you a bit of feedback. Unfortunately, I couldn’t see your bow hand well enough in this video. It would have been much more useful had this video placed all of your bow hand and wrist front and center, at least as you were describing what you were doing and as you were playing your sample piece. I really want to see exactly what your fingers and wrists look like during the cut. Slow motion would also be helpful. Thx
@@TheTuneProject Do you allready have a video how to develope speed for such tunes? Your accents are so down groovy and at the same time light and make my heart dance! I know, speed developes slowly, but I bet there are some tricks... I have the impression, when I really understand something from hearing speed is not the problem for me, at least with the left hand because I played the guitar for a long time... and then I think it's not really the speed but the combination of economy in bowing and the accents and the goove in it. Is there a point in what I'm saying?
@@TheTuneProject Ah, I 'analyzed' (amateurish) that bowing a bit (excuse me, I can't follow explanations very well, but looking closely to what's happening helps me more): that offbeat accents make it roll. Has that technique a name? It helps me a lot just knowing downbow on 2 & 4. That helps to develope Speed. I can imagine that there could be nice practiseing exercises with patterns just in that style, taking one ore more measures in a loop and working on that bow groove.
Vaguely ressemble a kinda hammer-on followed by a pull-off. In a triplet rythm, nope? I put this video in my Gitar playlist :) Thanks for the tips. I play mostly Irish and Breton tunes. Cheers :)
Hi! I am looking for a video on the cut and also other ornementations in Irish trad like rolls or slurs on the giotár. Beadh sé sin an suimiúil. I haven’t seen one yet. Sláinte agaibh! Tomás
hi iwant to be a violinist but idont know whene i am in iraq in kurdistan im kurdish is a vere difficult crisis i wish i was like you in one of the happy countries😑😑😢😢😢😢
Cool technique Lauren, i really found it really interesting and it sounds beautiful, thank you for the video! also.... i wanted to ask you if are you thinking about doing a video of staccato? or do you already have it?
Scot here. I know that Hanneke Cassel plays the off-the-string cut but it's not traditional in Scotland or Ireland. Doesn't mean you shouldn't use it if you like it, but it should be a conscious choice because it's a bit eccentric. Personally I find it harder than the normal cut, which is difficult enough. So it's not where I'd start if I was teaching.
To master the birl, I find it useful to think of it as a downbow with a percussive shake at the start, rather than as 3 separate bows. With many of the best exponents, the movement is barely visible.
This is similar to the roll, where it's best to visualise it as a percussive interruption to the main note, rather than as a melodic phrase in its own right.
Oh - and Jenny Dang the Weaver is very much a Scottish tune - even the Irish don't claim it!
Thus the disclaimer on this technique falling outside of my realm of expertise, as I was taught by Americans. Thanks for your insight!
Hi, Thank for this video. I think you verbally explained this well. I hope it’s ok for me to give you a bit of feedback. Unfortunately, I couldn’t see your bow hand well enough in this video. It would have been much more useful had this video placed all of your bow hand and wrist front and center, at least as you were describing what you were doing and as you were playing your sample piece. I really want to see exactly what your fingers and wrists look like during the cut. Slow motion would also be helpful. Thx
I really like the sound of this technique!!
exactly what I was looking for!
Glad to hear that!
thank you
Great and informative on this technique. I was wondering what the cut is, thanks!
Thanks, Lydia!
Such a nice tune in the end! Very good example for that technique!
It’s one of my faves! 🙂
@@TheTuneProject Do you allready have a video how to develope speed for such tunes? Your accents are so down groovy and at the same time light and make my heart dance! I know, speed developes slowly, but I bet there are some tricks... I have the impression, when I really understand something from hearing speed is not the problem for me, at least with the left hand because I played the guitar for a long time... and then I think it's not really the speed but the combination of economy in bowing and the accents and the goove in it. Is there a point in what I'm saying?
@@TheTuneProject Ah, I 'analyzed' (amateurish) that bowing a bit (excuse me, I can't follow explanations very well, but looking closely to what's happening helps me more): that offbeat accents make it roll. Has that technique a name? It helps me a lot just knowing downbow on 2 & 4. That helps to develope Speed. I can imagine that there could be nice practiseing exercises with patterns just in that style, taking one ore more measures in a loop and working on that bow groove.
Vaguely ressemble a kinda hammer-on followed by a pull-off.
In a triplet rythm, nope?
I put this video in my Gitar playlist :)
Thanks for the tips.
I play mostly Irish and Breton tunes.
Cheers :)
Hi!
I am looking for a video on the cut and also other ornementations in Irish trad like rolls or slurs on the giotár.
Beadh sé sin an suimiúil.
I haven’t seen one yet.
Sláinte agaibh!
Tomás
You are in the right place!
Do you have a tutorial of that Irish tune you sampled? If not, would love to see you do one :)
hi iwant to be a violinist but idont know whene i am in iraq in kurdistan im kurdish is a vere difficult crisis i wish i was like you in one of the happy countries😑😑😢😢😢😢
Cool technique Lauren, i really found it really interesting and it sounds beautiful, thank you for the video!
also.... i wanted to ask you if are you thinking about doing a video of staccato? or do you already have it?
Sarah - Check out my video on bow strokes from about a year ago! 💕
@@TheTuneProject oh ok ok, thank you!