Lecture 4 - A bit about batteries

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  • @VikashVerma-kn7vi
    @VikashVerma-kn7vi 4 года назад +15

    The way of explaining the concept of electric vehicle is quite good. Thank you so much sir.

  • @shreyash8813
    @shreyash8813 3 года назад +2

    perfect way of teaching. everyone should get a teacher like you. I thank the platform also where I get to learn under these great professors.

  • @Ykotb08
    @Ykotb08 8 месяцев назад

    It is clear you are enthusiastic about the topic and you explain clearly, thank you I really like this course.

  • @TPF_Vadodara
    @TPF_Vadodara 4 года назад +4

    Excellent way of explaining the concept

  • @h7opolo
    @h7opolo Год назад

    Answer to HW 1.3 @ 24:25:
    1) since the battery is rated for 2 kWh and the depth of discharge (DoD) is only 85%, then the entire discharge will be 1700 Wh which matches the recharge of 1700 Wh. But you only pay for electricity when you charge the battery, so 1.7 kWh multiplied by the electricity rate gives the Rupees cost per full charge, which is repeated 1825 times, giving a total charge cost of 1825 days x 5 Rupees/kWh x 1.7 kWh = 15,512.50 Rupees for five years' worth of battery power.
    2) the range of the car is dependent on the battery power capacity multiplied by the DoD, divided by the car's mileage. this yields a range of 1.7 kWh per day divided by 20 Wh/km = 85 km/day.
    3) since 85 km is driven every day, the total distance driven is number of days multiplied by the distance per day = 1825 days x 85 km/day = 155,125 km.
    4) the total battery cost is equal to the original cost plus the Interest and depreciation payment per year multiplied by the number of years considered. 1825 days divided by 365 days/year yields exactly 5 years. Therefore, we compute the PMT according to the provided formula at 24:25, and multiply the result by five. A = (0.12/year x 5 years x 30,000 Rupees)/1.55 = 18,000 Rupees is the total extra cost of Interest and depreciation over five years. Then we add A to the original battery cost to get the total cost of the battery: 18,000 Rupees + 30,000 Rupees = 48,000 Rupees.
    5) Now we have all the factors we need to compute the final answer in units of cost per kilometer by adding up the total battery cost to the total electricity cost and then dividing that by the total number of kilometers driven. This yields: (48,000 Rupees + 15,512.50 Rupees)/155,125 km = *0.409 Rupees per kilometer.*

    • @h7opolo
      @h7opolo Год назад

      in step 4) the PMT is multiplied by 5 because the PMT is a per year rate and the length of the term is five years. Thus, the PMT formula is misleading since you can effectively omit the "divided by 'no of unit time'" step.

    • @nikunjgujarathi8610
      @nikunjgujarathi8610 Год назад

      In pt 4. There is a calculation error. A comes out to be 11612 and not 18000. You have not divided the calculation by 1.55

  • @NITINKumare
    @NITINKumare 7 месяцев назад

    Excellently explaining abt battery technology for the India's EV program

  • @rajeevdeshpande9255
    @rajeevdeshpande9255 3 года назад +1

    very systematic & step by step explainatin of the concept.Thanks

  • @sudiptapatra2991
    @sudiptapatra2991 2 года назад +1

    We can use regenerative braking

  • @Muzeemkhankamaal
    @Muzeemkhankamaal 3 года назад +2

    Detailed explanation. Thanks.

  • @indian4307
    @indian4307 2 года назад +1

    Great teaching 👍 👏 👌

  • @kunaldeshattiwar7261
    @kunaldeshattiwar7261 3 года назад +2

    0.06 per kilometre cost for fuel
    18000 Rs of electricity it takes as per domestic electricty rate Rs 5 per unit
    Battery run 270000 life time
    150 km at a single charge according to depth of discharge
    Near about 1600 w/h we used always
    Does it right sir?

    • @theunsoundfeelings9650
      @theunsoundfeelings9650 3 года назад +2

      i think 85 km can be driven with single charge and discharge

    • @sofyb.varghese5953
      @sofyb.varghese5953 2 года назад +1

      @@theunsoundfeelings9650 I am getting 85km as well

    • @harish7176
      @harish7176 2 года назад +1

      @@sofyb.varghese5953 how to calculate this ?

    • @h7opolo
      @h7opolo Год назад +1

      @@harish71761) since the battery is rated for 2 kWh and the depth of discharge (DoD) is only 85%, then the entire discharge will be 1700 Wh which matches the recharge of 1700 Wh. But you only pay for electricity when you charge the battery, so 1.7 kWh multiplied by the electricity rate gives the Rupees cost per full charge, which is repeated 1825 times, giving a total charge cost of 1825 days x 5 Rupees/kWh x 1.7 kWh = 15,512.50 Rupees for five years' worth of battery power.
      2) the range of the car is dependent on the battery power capacity multiplied by the DoD, divided by the car's mileage. this yields a range of 1.7 kWh per day divided by 20 Wh/km = 85 km/day.
      3) since 85 km is driven every day, the total distance driven is number of days multiplied by the distance per day = 1825 days x 85 km/day = 155,125 km.
      4) the total battery cost is equal to the original cost plus the Interest and depreciation payment per year multiplied by the number of years considered. 1825 days divided by 365 days/year yields exactly 5 years. Therefore, we compute the PMT according to the provided formula at 24:25, and multiply the result by five. A = (0.12/year x 5 years x 30,000 Rupees)/1.55 = 18,000 Rupees is the total extra cost of Interest and depreciation over five years. Then we add A to the original battery cost to get the total cost of the battery: 18,000 Rupees + 30,000 Rupees = 48,000 Rupees.
      5) Now we have all the factors we need to compute the final answer in units of cost per kilometer by adding up the total battery cost to the total electricity cost and then dividing that by the total number of kilometers driven. This yields: (48,000 Rupees + 15,512.50 Rupees)/155,125 km = *0.409 Rupees per kilometer.*

    • @h7opolo
      @h7opolo Год назад

      for starters, you forgot that the PMT is "per year", thus the PMT needs to be multiplied by five, instead of "divided by 'no of unit time'" as shown in the video. @kunaldeshattiwar7261

  • @m3nalrimawi629
    @m3nalrimawi629 2 года назад +1

    How can I get the slides of lecture ?

  • @NITINKumare
    @NITINKumare 7 месяцев назад

    Depth of discharge DOD

  • @Saurabhkumar-gx2wu
    @Saurabhkumar-gx2wu 3 года назад

    so as the battery is discharged once every day, then cost of charging it every day is 5*2=10... am i right?

  • @gagandangwal7011
    @gagandangwal7011 3 года назад +6

    Please upload assignment solutions 🙏

  • @bundesligaofficial8690
    @bundesligaofficial8690 2 года назад

    Watching this from Bangladesh

  • @Saurabhkumar-gx2wu
    @Saurabhkumar-gx2wu 3 года назад

    sir, it's all blank after PMT, what do we need to do further

  • @manjunathsankolli
    @manjunathsankolli Год назад

    Good teaching

  • @NITINKumare
    @NITINKumare 7 месяцев назад

    SoH state of health

  • @pranavbelgaonkar8634
    @pranavbelgaonkar8634 4 года назад +1

    Does this course have a textbook ?

    • @InfoOrbit_AI
      @InfoOrbit_AI 2 года назад +1

      there is no specific book for such courses. materials are taken from multiple books and professors knowledge.

  • @n.p.9997
    @n.p.9997 Год назад

    I got 1.1829 Rs/km. Is it correct?

    • @h7opolo
      @h7opolo Год назад

      check my other response for mathematical steps. i got .409 Rupees/km.

  • @rangarajaniyerswaminathan7025
    @rangarajaniyerswaminathan7025 2 года назад +3

    So guys we have 2kWhr battery of which only 85% will be used so its 1.7 kWhr available .Daily its charged and unit rate is Rs5 so daily it will cost Rs8.5 and it will be give 85km/Day so in all lifetime total energy cost is 8.5*1825=15512.5 RS and in all it can go 87*1825=15512.5km.Do correct me guys .

    • @vijaysarthy6759
      @vijaysarthy6759 2 года назад

      could u pl tell me how did u get this 87. thanks.

    • @vijaysarthy6759
      @vijaysarthy6759 2 года назад

      also how did u arrive at 85 km per day. we dont know the energy efficiency,. pl help me clear this...thanks

    • @h7opolo
      @h7opolo Год назад

      check my other reply for the mathematical steps. @@vijaysarthy6759

  • @NITINKumare
    @NITINKumare 7 месяцев назад

    Slow charge, fast charge 1 hr or less

  • @NITINKumare
    @NITINKumare 7 месяцев назад

    EOL End of life

  • @girijakumarpuranik4097
    @girijakumarpuranik4097 4 года назад

    Anyone solved the problem asked at the end of lecture ?

    • @girijakumarpuranik4097
      @girijakumarpuranik4097 4 года назад

      Over the lifetime of battery , the fuel cost is coming only half rupee per km !!!!

    • @saketbishnoi
      @saketbishnoi 4 года назад

      @@girijakumarpuranik4097 yes i solve it in my case the fuel cost/km is 0.39125 rs /km

    • @saketbishnoi
      @saketbishnoi 4 года назад

      the answer range is somewhere between .36 and .37

    • @akhilspai
      @akhilspai 3 года назад

      Is the pmt equation correct?

    • @gagandangwal7011
      @gagandangwal7011 3 года назад

      It's coming out around .268

  • @AdityaChoumal
    @AdityaChoumal Год назад

  • @megaprimegamer1184
    @megaprimegamer1184 3 года назад

    Just goes to show EVs are not viable at all in India until 2030 at the least

  • @Alive6371
    @Alive6371 4 года назад

    NPTEL lectures are so boring !

    • @akki_the_kid_but_26
      @akki_the_kid_but_26 4 года назад +5

      Really? I don't think so.

    • @srijeethj3616
      @srijeethj3616 4 года назад +2

      nope

    • @akki_the_kid_but_26
      @akki_the_kid_but_26 4 года назад +2

      @@srijeethj3616 at least not prof Ashok sir's lecture

    • @surajs5913
      @surajs5913 4 года назад +7

      No matter how good the lecture is, if you are not really interested or immersed in the problems, you will find the lectures boring

    • @Alive6371
      @Alive6371 4 года назад

      @@surajs5913 I find it boring *period* If you don't, then move on !