This mode is so funny because I'd say it accurately recreates a lot from vanilla F-Zero in both good and bad ways. Races themselves are a lot more focused. Instead of worrying about massive clumps of machines, spinning and gathering pellets, and trying to time a skyway boost, you're just racing. There's also just way less junk; there are fewer racers to get through, the bumpers are reduced heavily, lucky bumpers are gone entirely, and there's something about the vibes of bumpers just being there rather than you seeing them being summoned from on high that's less intense. In 99, machines are balanced by the presence of the skyway and the altered boosting mechanics. Without those, we're pretty much right back to the original pecking order, with Stingray and Goose notably ahead of the Falcon and Fox. Without the system tying boost and health together, front running dominates, and it's extremely easy to hold a lead. But unlike the original, the other racers are humans rather than AI with hair-trigger rubber banding, so making small mistakes in the lead doesn't tend to be as costly, and because opposing Fire Stingrays are actually Fire Stingrays instead of Blue Falcons with a fancy coat of paint, holding a lead with the Falcon and especially the Fox can be almost impossible despite not making major mistakes because you're just slow. It's a weird dynamic. I miss spinning. It all kinda highlights to me how much I like what they did with 99 vs the original. This could've totally been the entirety of what this game was; a clone of Vanilla F-Zero with online play and fancy skins, with no real attempts to address issues from the original and design consequences of multi-player. And conversely 99 could've been done far more lazily, without the extra additions and small track modifications that make it work. This mode isn't my favorite, but I'm glad it's here.
Classic Mode just really makes me appreciate all the changes they made for F-Zero 99. I miss the risk-reward of HP being your boost meter, being able to spin, and even the new skyway as a catch up mechanic. You really don't appreciate what you have until its gone.
No way, a new update? I thought for sure they were done with those. Oh this is exciting. Maybe if we're lucky they'll give us the tracks from BS F-Zero 2!
they most likely will, the mode description said "A 20-pilot race with rules and tracks inspired by the original F-ZERO." they are insinuating that they'll add new tracks
people have been data-mining the game and found a modified version of death wind 1 with jumps and set on the white land tileset, so it sounds like Nintendo is exploring the possibility of adding new tracks.
I’m enjoying classic, lobbies are smaller, races are faster and while stingray will dominate in this mode. I like that they included it for any retro lovers or speedrunners
I think we can all agree Classic Mode is what we expected the initial release to be like, god do the primary modes/events really make me want to go play X and GX for the first time ever I wasn't a big fan of the Classic Mode event at first because I found the power-draining boosts to be more engaging, but I think the addition of the badge for racing on all 12 Classic Mode tracks was a really good idea cause it gave me an incentive to warm up to it more It feels so much faster than other modes, and while it has the same balancing problems as the original game, the fact you're actually racing other humans in itself gives all 4 vehicles a better chance to shine - even if the Stingray and Goose still reign supreme for the most part - because the errors that come about from that are way easier to capitalize upon
Goose players are very bad, they always end up down in the classic races and fox players always tend to die falcon players are the ones who really fight stingray players There are times when goose players win first places or, even more surprising, fox players achieve it, but winning a race with fox is not the same as winning a race with goose. goose players have failed to exploit the ship's potential
As a stingrays player this might be one of the best updates After the first race I got 5th place and 3 of my rivals ranked out I beat the 4th one. Im S3 so did they have skill issue? Yes.
How fitting that I come into this one at 099 comments, knew it had to happen eventually and it was a bit overdue: From my analysis of it, Classic Race is still confined to the limitations of F~Zero 099 in regards to how it handles the Fallout Formula, and in many ways NST has made this easier than how it was handled in I990 to BS F~Zero Grand Prix II and the Advance Trilogy: The old handling of the formula is significantly more fair to me due to my history with it, as Five Laps on 0I5/0I0/07/05/03 has always been easy to adapt to and truly forces a sense of Consistency in order to survive; switching over this to Four Laps of 020/0I8/0I6/0I4 is NST's way of not overly punishing players who cannot play at the peak performance demanded by Miyamoto's team back in I990 and allows for the impact of Checkpoint Elimination (or Fallout) to not be as critical, this would better explain why Round 05 of the Grand Prix does not utilize it at all and in many ways better rewards players who have made it this far so that they need not worry about their performance backfiring on them at the literal end of the event, I hope though that this will be updated in future builds to better conform to the Old Standard to deliver a little more challenge where it is rightfully due and I hope that a CPU Prix/CPU Battle mode would have the formula be toggleable to meet the preferences of specific sides of the player base that may prefer this more Technical approach to play.
im seeing a good balance of every vehicle so far, majority stingray of course, but there's good diversity at least for the first day. i'm sure the endless stingray festival will be here within a few days, though. for my part i'm trying hard to make fox & falcon work since they're my favorite vehicles, even though i know it's an uphill battle and one day i'll go crawling back on my hands and knees to samurai goroh
exactly, but it did say it's only "inspired" but yeah would have been cooler if it was 5 laps also imagine if it had the insane bump effects of snes F-ZERO on everything expect the goose
@@BabyDanielBD I know... yeah, that too. BUT there are these orange bumpers which blinck red meaning they have the same function as the Rainbow-Bumpers.
This mode is really letting you know who's cheating, because aint no way the Golden Fox is beating ANYONE at a drag race when it has the lowest max speed in the game. That Wild Goose at the end passing you up without jets running is looking mighty sus when you were long at max 478 speed.
The Fox has the highest acceleration, so yes, it will beat the other 3 in a drag race. It will just top out sooner and get overtaken when the others get up to speed.
Keep making hackusations without any solid evidence and eventually people will start wondering if you're just trying to cover for yourself. And don't even try to claim I'm "defending myself", I don't even play this game, mainly because I'd have to get an NSO subscription and I'd only ever use it for this if I did. I mostly play GX. But I'm familiar enough with the other games in the series, including SNES, to know that there are some intricacies that you're obviously missing.
@@Zeo-- Yeah, isn't it in the high 460s? I can see it overtaking right after its boost lets off and carrying enough speed to keep the Fire Stingray it passed from taking back the lead before the end of the race.
I never played it but it looks AWESOME! Honestly I rather see a ray win this instead of a fox. And Im NOT A fan of the skyway! I also like the boost system in the original more.
This mode is so funny because I'd say it accurately recreates a lot from vanilla F-Zero in both good and bad ways.
Races themselves are a lot more focused. Instead of worrying about massive clumps of machines, spinning and gathering pellets, and trying to time a skyway boost, you're just racing. There's also just way less junk; there are fewer racers to get through, the bumpers are reduced heavily, lucky bumpers are gone entirely, and there's something about the vibes of bumpers just being there rather than you seeing them being summoned from on high that's less intense.
In 99, machines are balanced by the presence of the skyway and the altered boosting mechanics. Without those, we're pretty much right back to the original pecking order, with Stingray and Goose notably ahead of the Falcon and Fox.
Without the system tying boost and health together, front running dominates, and it's extremely easy to hold a lead. But unlike the original, the other racers are humans rather than AI with hair-trigger rubber banding, so making small mistakes in the lead doesn't tend to be as costly, and because opposing Fire Stingrays are actually Fire Stingrays instead of Blue Falcons with a fancy coat of paint, holding a lead with the Falcon and especially the Fox can be almost impossible despite not making major mistakes because you're just slow. It's a weird dynamic.
I miss spinning.
It all kinda highlights to me how much I like what they did with 99 vs the original. This could've totally been the entirety of what this game was; a clone of Vanilla F-Zero with online play and fancy skins, with no real attempts to address issues from the original and design consequences of multi-player. And conversely 99 could've been done far more lazily, without the extra additions and small track modifications that make it work. This mode isn't my favorite, but I'm glad it's here.
I for one stand for your essay
RIP for anyone who plays the Golden Fox in this mode.
good
and wild goose i guess
@@kamilslup7743 Nah, more like RIP Blue-Falcon than RIP Wild-Goose.
Golden Fox mains when they can't boost five times in one lap: "So that's what it feels like."
@@GodOfThings TRUUUE! And it's finally even!
7:00 what a horrible day to be a Gooden Fox user
Bro thought he can win with golden fox💀
Classic Mode just really makes me appreciate all the changes they made for F-Zero 99. I miss the risk-reward of HP being your boost meter, being able to spin, and even the new skyway as a catch up mechanic. You really don't appreciate what you have until its gone.
No way, a new update? I thought for sure they were done with those.
Oh this is exciting. Maybe if we're lucky they'll give us the tracks from BS F-Zero 2!
they most likely will, the mode description said "A 20-pilot race with rules and tracks inspired by the original F-ZERO."
they are insinuating that they'll add new tracks
That’s what I’m hoping they do next! Seeing classic mode here gives me hope
people have been data-mining the game and found a modified version of death wind 1 with jumps and set on the white land tileset, so it sounds like Nintendo is exploring the possibility of adding new tracks.
@@not_riley Probably a BS F-Zero update? i need that grand prix 2 courses!
I’m enjoying classic, lobbies are smaller, races are faster and while stingray will dominate in this mode. I like that they included it for any retro lovers or speedrunners
Golden Fox : *MASHES A BUTTON*
Now instead of everyone being fox, everyone gonna be ray.
classic mode will be 95% stingray and 5% falcon
@@kamilslup7743 More like 5% Goose. Just look at the max. speed.
And now people know why the Fire Stingray was the best machine on the snes
they changed the fov too to make it look like the snes
I was panicking so much at first because it felt faster... the fov is likely why.
Right I noticed that the race was much faster…then noticed you can’t see as far. Funny what perspective does to your sense of speed
They also made the display 4:3 letterboxed like SNES
Stingraybros... WE ARE BACK!
SNES Style? LETS GOO!!!
This is the only mode I want to focus on for a good while. As a kid who grew up at the peak of the SNES era, this is everything I wanted.
Smooth man - as always.
I’ve only watched the first race so far - incredible. You are inspiring me to improve drastically! 🤩
I think we can all agree Classic Mode is what we expected the initial release to be like, god do the primary modes/events really make me want to go play X and GX for the first time ever
I wasn't a big fan of the Classic Mode event at first because I found the power-draining boosts to be more engaging, but I think the addition of the badge for racing on all 12 Classic Mode tracks was a really good idea cause it gave me an incentive to warm up to it more
It feels so much faster than other modes, and while it has the same balancing problems as the original game, the fact you're actually racing other humans in itself gives all 4 vehicles a better chance to shine - even if the Stingray and Goose still reign supreme for the most part - because the errors that come about from that are way easier to capitalize upon
Goose players are very bad, they always end up down in the classic races and fox players always tend to die falcon players are the ones who really fight stingray players There are times when goose players win first places or, even more surprising, fox players achieve it, but winning a race with fox is not the same as winning a race with goose. goose players have failed to exploit the ship's potential
Only thing that's missing is the Stingray's crazy 900 km/h boost speed.
STANGIN'
where have you been? I haven’t seen you on the track in a while.
@@not_riley just busy w life, i'll be back soon though!
Interesting that 5-laps and extreme disqualifications aren't still in the game. I'd love to to see a classic tourney with these rules.
They likely left out the 5 laps as a way to subtly nerf the Fire Stingray. And IIRC, didn't the more extreme DQs not come up until the later tracks?
Using the SNES rules of 15-7-5-3? I don't think so.
Rip golden fox scrubs 😢😢😢 F
hold my beer, brb
As a stingrays player this might be one of the best updates
After the first race I got 5th place and 3 of my rivals ranked out I beat the 4th one.
Im S3 so did they have skill issue? Yes.
I got 4th on my first classic race. SIX players made it to the finish line, it was a bloodbath
How fitting that I come into this one at 099 comments, knew it had to happen eventually and it was a bit overdue: From my analysis of it, Classic Race is still confined to the limitations of F~Zero 099 in regards to how it handles the Fallout Formula, and in many ways NST has made this easier than how it was handled in I990 to BS F~Zero Grand Prix II and the Advance Trilogy: The old handling of the formula is significantly more fair to me due to my history with it, as Five Laps on 0I5/0I0/07/05/03 has always been easy to adapt to and truly forces a sense of Consistency in order to survive; switching over this to Four Laps of 020/0I8/0I6/0I4 is NST's way of not overly punishing players who cannot play at the peak performance demanded by Miyamoto's team back in I990 and allows for the impact of Checkpoint Elimination (or Fallout) to not be as critical, this would better explain why Round 05 of the Grand Prix does not utilize it at all and in many ways better rewards players who have made it this far so that they need not worry about their performance backfiring on them at the literal end of the event, I hope though that this will be updated in future builds to better conform to the Old Standard to deliver a little more challenge where it is rightfully due and I hope that a CPU Prix/CPU Battle mode would have the formula be toggleable to meet the preferences of specific sides of the player base that may prefer this more Technical approach to play.
Thank god they kept the music
Definitely the best strategy with golden fox will be to try to obstruct the runners behind to gain momentum
im seeing a good balance of every vehicle so far, majority stingray of course, but there's good diversity at least for the first day. i'm sure the endless stingray festival will be here within a few days, though. for my part i'm trying hard to make fox & falcon work since they're my favorite vehicles, even though i know it's an uphill battle and one day i'll go crawling back on my hands and knees to samurai goroh
Everyone who miss SNES F-Zero
👇
HELL YES! HERE!
Did you notice besides this and the lucky ranks the made the new safe look diffrent
Wait do you mean the safe text when you're about to rank out?
@@xenologue7403 no, i mean the text when you finish a lap then the text that says : new safe rank =00
Hold up! It was 5 laps in the original not 4, right? And the safe rank was 15,7,5,3 and not 18,16,14!
That 71xmn guy was really good.😯
That's exactly what I want if I play F-Zero. A close match and the better player wins.
exactly, but it did say it's only "inspired" but yeah would have been cooler if it was 5 laps
also imagine if it had the insane bump effects of snes F-ZERO on everything expect the goose
@@kamilslup7743 Oh right... AND the random bumpers in the middle of the track just standing there...
another difference is that there aren't any rainbow bumpers (which functioned similarly to the red bumpers from the other modes in 99)
@@BabyDanielBD I know... yeah, that too. BUT there are these orange bumpers which blinck red meaning they have the same function as the Rainbow-Bumpers.
So fire stingray is the best machine for classic mode?
at equal skill, yes. But if you like a good challenge, Fox still has a chance on some tracks. I uploaded another video with some Fox wins.
Arise my fellow stingrays, our time has come! 😂
EVEN THE THUMBNAIL FOR CLASSIC IS THE STINGRAY
It also feels like they made Stingray get bumped less in 99, but i could be wrong.
I didn't like lucky ranks, who's gonna finish races in specifics ranks just to match more numbers in the lottery?
i agree, it’s dumb. They wasted precious programming hours on a lottery system that you have no control over and that nobody cares about.
Looks like Max Verstappen are now in F-Zero
This mode is really letting you know who's cheating, because aint no way the Golden Fox is beating ANYONE at a drag race when it has the lowest max speed in the game.
That Wild Goose at the end passing you up without jets running is looking mighty sus when you were long at max 478 speed.
The Fox has the highest acceleration, so yes, it will beat the other 3 in a drag race. It will just top out sooner and get overtaken when the others get up to speed.
Keep making hackusations without any solid evidence and eventually people will start wondering if you're just trying to cover for yourself.
And don't even try to claim I'm "defending myself", I don't even play this game, mainly because I'd have to get an NSO subscription and I'd only ever use it for this if I did. I mostly play GX. But I'm familiar enough with the other games in the series, including SNES, to know that there are some intricacies that you're obviously missing.
Let's not forget that Goose is the 2nd fastest machine and has significantly better acceleration.
@@Zeo--
Yeah, isn't it in the high 460s? I can see it overtaking right after its boost lets off and carrying enough speed to keep the Fire Stingray it passed from taking back the lead before the end of the race.
Those who use Wild Goose in 99, for shame!
Those who use Fire Stingray in Classic, FOR SHAME! 😂
I suppose I am glad it isn't 5 laps
Golden Fox is now the worst machine in this the irony 😂
That how things always were.
@@DongKEKongthe “stinkray” can finally shine as it should
Classic mode is sooo horrible
Ima have to agree since the majorty of players will just have to be stingray. Ima give this one a hard pass
@@wolfboom2 Fr also the fact that your beginning placements are random is tuff
I tried it and I don't get it.
Like you said it's so horrible.
Yeah no shit. That's what it was like playing the original F-Zero
I never played it but it looks AWESOME! Honestly I rather see a ray win this instead of a fox. And Im NOT A fan of the skyway! I also like the boost system in the original more.
Classic sucks with only 1 viable car
I posted a video today where i win with Fox on various tracks
@@not_riley Yeah but if you have equally skilled people in classic, then there is only 1 viable option.
@@lexi1337-r6s yeah, but you’re not always going to have 20 equally skilled players and sometimes it’s fun to play with a handicap.