AWESOME WATER POWER 500w Hydro Electric Off Grid System

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  • Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024

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  • @LandtoHouse
    @LandtoHouse  Год назад +33

    1 MILLION VIEW MICRO HYDRO video
    ruclips.net/video/f62o9SNwmEU/видео.html

    • @fearofchicke
      @fearofchicke Год назад +1

      The first link in the description doesn’t appear to work.

    • @LandtoHouse
      @LandtoHouse  Год назад +1

      I checked this morning and it was working. Looks like it's got some server error.

    • @rimc4378
      @rimc4378 Год назад

      @@LandtoHouse I would like to try and get something like this to work on my pool return lines! If i could produce 110/30a or close it would reduce the money I spend running the pool pump.

    • @ARLGD
      @ARLGD 9 месяцев назад

      That's a great micro hydro video! If you're interested in alternative power solutions, you might want to check out the Segway Portable PowerStation Cube Series. It offers a massive capacity, powerful output, and fast recharging. Plus, it's waterproof and has comprehensive protection features. It could be a valuable addition to your outdoor gear or home backup power system. Happy camping!

    • @ARLGD
      @ARLGD 9 месяцев назад

      That's a really interesting video! If you're into off-grid systems, you should definitely check out the Segway Portable PowerStation Cube Series. It's a versatile powerhouse that can keep your devices and appliances running for extended periods. With its massive capacity, powerful output, and waterproof technology, it's perfect for outdoor enthusiasts and RV lovers. Plus, it has a smart app control feature for easy management. Check it out!

  • @aaronnoffsinger5922
    @aaronnoffsinger5922 Год назад +433

    PVC is made for interior and under ground piping. It is susceptible to UV degradation. It would be advisable to paint it when left outside.

    • @stephencooper5040
      @stephencooper5040 Год назад +33

      Yeah, just an exterior grade latex should suffice, there’s plenty of paints that block 100% of UV radiation.

    • @andrewallason4530
      @andrewallason4530 Год назад +48

      uPVC is available, and is UV stable. However, I would still paint it a colour more appropriate to be less obtrusive in the environment.

    • @boblatkey7160
      @boblatkey7160 Год назад +14

      So in 20 years it becomes brittle, big deal!

    • @aaronnoffsinger5922
      @aaronnoffsinger5922 Год назад +27

      @@boblatkey7160 Won't take that long but okay suit yourself. It's a brilliant system
      Thank you Sir

    • @portnuefflyer
      @portnuefflyer Год назад +3

      Thanks for that, I guess! I just used white PVC couplers, fully exposed to the sun, for connecting my risers to my impact sprinkler heads, anyone know if the grey PVC fittings are any better in UV?

  • @jllaine
    @jllaine Год назад +8

    I really like the design of the 3" ring pipe with T's to the straight-in 2" ball valves and jets.

    • @LandtoHouse
      @LandtoHouse  Год назад +2

      Yes it is working well for them! 500w is great for an off grid system.

    • @ztukariansevuri
      @ztukariansevuri Год назад

      Why do you like this? Its the most ignorant design, with massive efficiency loss. This entire system is virtually trash. These hydro generator designs were better on the platform a decade ago, and now everyone acts like theyre an expert, but the reality is they dont know anything but the basic asss concept. Do your research cause this entire design is a waste of time and energy...

    • @wesley00042
      @wesley00042 Год назад +4

      Yeah, having jets from four directions probably helps the bearings last longer too.

  • @anndrake492
    @anndrake492 Год назад +6

    Superb explanation! You can really understand how this system works. Kudos!

  • @Mordalo
    @Mordalo Год назад +17

    An estimated cost would have been nice.

  • @greatdane3343
    @greatdane3343 Месяц назад

    Cool setup.
    Thanks for sharing.

  • @tianzining
    @tianzining Год назад +3

    the way that system owner kept the generator module is like a super sports car's engine bay!

  • @lokpok4077
    @lokpok4077 2 месяца назад

    Thank you

  • @robwhite2282
    @robwhite2282 Год назад +5

    Fantastic detail in explanation. Thank you sir.

  • @hunnybunnysheavymetalmusic6542

    I do not apologize.
    I would use all the water in a stream I possibly could.

  • @kensington3942
    @kensington3942 Год назад +1

    cool, if only i had 20grand to spend on a 500w generator

  • @lukephilpot5660
    @lukephilpot5660 29 дней назад

    Great video!

  • @DeanReinhardt
    @DeanReinhardt 5 месяцев назад

    when the batteries are full... understanding that you cannot take the load off a turbine, which would cause it to spin free (destroying the bearings), where do you dump this power to keep the resistance?

  • @garryaopi967
    @garryaopi967 Год назад +1

    I am interested In that micro Hydro system..

  • @stevenpleasant5834
    @stevenpleasant5834 9 месяцев назад

    Awesome system what would this all cost to build with the same stuff please reply back.

  • @BCFalls1
    @BCFalls1 Год назад

    now, hook that 500 watts up to h2o electrolysis to produce hydrogen for the ballard fuel cells and bump it up to whatever you want, gigawatts or more, just keep doubling it up with fuels cells and Electrolyzers --Quetexawatts even.

  • @The1stDukeDroklar
    @The1stDukeDroklar Год назад +2

    I wonder if you collected the water into another pipe after it passed through the first generator, how long would it have to run before having enough pressure to go through another generator?

    • @Justin-C
      @Justin-C Год назад +4

      You would need the same amount of elevation 'downhill' from the first turbine to build up that same pressure/head again.
      For more (hydro) power on this property, it'd be best just to put an extra coanda & pipe in to collect more water right after the first one (if drying up the stream isn't a big concern), down to a second turbine near the first one. That said, dry season might very well mean there's not enough water for 2 turbines (or even 1)... so if any extra power is needed, it'd be better to just supplement with solar.

    • @peoplenewstoday
      @peoplenewstoday Год назад +1

      Loses all its pressure/energy the moment it hits generator.

  • @jack504
    @jack504 Год назад

    How difficult is it to find a plot of land with a suitable creek and height difference? Assuming you're of normal means, maybe $100k budget for land only.

  • @Jimmy-ys2dn
    @Jimmy-ys2dn 9 месяцев назад

    Great video. What is the total investment about?

  • @hgdon-homeiswheretreesare-9239

    I got lost there from time to time, but it's good system nontheless . . . 😮

  • @pdemarc
    @pdemarc 9 месяцев назад

    I have a question regarding the electrical wire run-I need to run mine almost 3000 feet from my creek to my power center. Any suggestions or tips?

  • @nilp2000
    @nilp2000 Год назад

    well done :)

  • @RJ_MAGA
    @RJ_MAGA Год назад

    Curious why you wouldn't put generator closer to water and cable electric to cabin. Way less noticable.Transform it to 230Vac and it will transport pretty well over distance. I can see security of generator being an issue but matiance on the water pipes has to be a nightmare.

  • @travisgravelle7687
    @travisgravelle7687 3 месяца назад

    If your already generating a/c why not use that directly for normal use? This seems unnecessarily complex, and your losing some power with each change. Would a motor/generator be more efficient for the a/c - d/c conversion?

    • @LandtoHouse
      @LandtoHouse  3 месяца назад

      The AC that is coming from the PMA is wild fluctuating 3 phase. The power we use in our homes is locked down at 60hz and is single phase. Trying to use the power right from the PMA would blow up most appliances.

    • @travisgravelle7687
      @travisgravelle7687 3 месяца назад

      @@LandtoHouse they do make regulators for that and a governor on the turbine would help with that and make it last longer.

  • @user-wy4mp9ts3u
    @user-wy4mp9ts3u Год назад +1

    If you have elevation you don't need much water

    • @LandtoHouse
      @LandtoHouse  Год назад

      (Head pressure in feet X gpm)/10=power
      Correct if you have 175 feet of head and 30gpm you can make nice power.

  • @cluberic
    @cluberic Год назад

    soda can behind the rectifier?

  • @jutde
    @jutde Год назад

    How’d you get the EPA to OK this?

  • @malone1todd
    @malone1todd Год назад

    Not 3-phase. Houses are 2-phase. Main breaker has 2 legs.

  • @danthedewman1
    @danthedewman1 Год назад

    rough cost?

  • @deama15
    @deama15 Год назад

    Whyo was the pipe so long?

    • @LandtoHouse
      @LandtoHouse  Год назад

      To gain the head pressure (drop)

  • @marccawood
    @marccawood 11 месяцев назад

    Why rectify and then invert again?? AC to DC to AC is lossy.

    • @LandtoHouse
      @LandtoHouse  11 месяцев назад +2

      The ac from the pma is wild fluctuating 3 phase. Hz value is all over the place. Converting to DC allows for storage in batteries and conversion to 60Hz 120v ac.

  • @johnvanriper3363
    @johnvanriper3363 Год назад

    No air reliefs ?

  • @AbBc-w4q
    @AbBc-w4q Год назад

    I have a stupid question... how does placing those two rocks before the screen supposed to slow the water down? Seems to me you can pull all the rocks there you want.. it wont slow the water down.

    • @masteroogway6660
      @masteroogway6660 Год назад

      putting anything in the path of water, which naturally takes the path of least resistance, acts as a brake that it must flow around, reducing the flow speed it otherwise would have had going directly over the screen before without affecting the actual volume of water. Think of it like traffic on a motorway, if you put a bunch of cones out that drivers must slow down to maneuver around it doesn't reduce the number of cars that will travel or the speed they can reach before or after the cones, it just slows them down at the cones.

    • @AbBc-w4q
      @AbBc-w4q Год назад

      @@masteroogway6660 thanks for reply.. still makes no sense to me.. traffic can back up and collect as it trickles through slower through an obstacle... the water seems different to me.. put the rocks there... but if you have 30 gallons of water a minute coming from upstream... then you will still have 30 gallons of water going over that filter. Say the flow has been restricted to 20 gallons a minute... you still have 30 gallons a minute coming in... where is that 10 gallons a minute going if its not going over the filter?

    • @masteroogway6660
      @masteroogway6660 Год назад

      @user-io8bm6gz5z it's all going over the filter just like all the cars get around the cones and regular traffic resumes, there's just a slight interruption at the point its needed, if 30 gallons was before the rocks and only 20 gallons after then you'd form a pond which would increase the amount of water before the rocks and it would naturally find a new equilibrium as all water will

    • @AbBc-w4q
      @AbBc-w4q Год назад

      @@masteroogway6660 cars wont over flow and spill over the sides of the hwy.. they can literally stop and wait.. not like water. If its slowed more than the amount coming in then its going to continually build up and spill over the sides... if its not spilling over the sides then whatever amount is coming in, is going over the filter regardless of what you put in front of it. Sorry, im not trying to be an internet prick lol... it just doesnmt make any sense to me. 30 gpm coming in then 30 going out.. if the water going out has slowed more than whats coming in then it would start to accumulate and spill over the sides... if thats what's happening Im sorry I missed that part. Only thing I can see those rocks doing is perhaps blocking some turbulence and making the flow more smooth.

    • @masteroogway6660
      @masteroogway6660 Год назад

      @user-io8bm6gz5z stop thinking of it as a set amount in and out and dont think cars then, you don't know what the flow rate was before the rocks were there, only that it was "too fast" to allow enough water to fall down the grate it just shot right over, so all the info we have is that no rocks was too fast and the volumes the same, now there is rocks, the rocks have caused a barrier that has changed the natural flow speed, it may travel faster physically around and between the rocks because the volume of water is the same, but when it's on the other side of the rocks it's the same volume but over a larger surface area than it was between the rocks, causing it to travel slower again, slow enough over the grate to operate correctly anyway, this may have caused a slight build up in water before the grate and stones, if it has its not affecting anything as there's already a reservoir area of slower moving water there. It's basically the same reason water slows down again after a rapids, rapids are the same volume travelling over a smaller surface area, causing it to go fast, it then reaches a larger surface, volume is the same, water slows down.

  • @taniorganik4702
    @taniorganik4702 Год назад

    Saya sudah hadir dalam kanal anda

  • @1014p
    @1014p Год назад

    Ok that is very excessive length of pipe to system. Would have been better to not reduced pipe size for length of 20' then if needed reduced to 4" next 10'. Also dig into hill to give it higher drop angle. A door to access system would be needed. Then divert back to creek sooner down the hill.

  • @vicbauwens
    @vicbauwens Год назад

    Looks overly complicated imho Why not just build a sand trap at the culvert and feed your turbine from there. Use welded HDPE pipe and bury the lot, PVC is not a good choice as it becomes brittle.
    Overall, a couple of solar panels seem way more cost effective than this entire setup

  • @KevinLyda
    @KevinLyda Год назад +1

    Just curious, could you integrate solar panels into a system like this? Perhaps with a second charge controller for the battery?

    • @inimic6900
      @inimic6900 Год назад +2

      Yes; In fact the 8KWH inverter they are using supports 2 PV input strings (15:09)

  • @louisharper1471
    @louisharper1471 4 месяца назад +11

    I love this set up, you should do another video where you break down the costs and construction process.

  • @Doomscrollart
    @Doomscrollart 5 месяцев назад +17

    My father passed last year and I'm trying to patch up his homestead. One of the tricky bits has been making sense of the hydro generator system. So this video is incredibly helpful :)

    • @portnuefflyer
      @portnuefflyer 27 дней назад

      I'm 75, and have had a few similar comments on my hydro system : "when you die, no one else will be able to figure out how to operate it." I just tell them "not my problem."

    • @Doomscrollart
      @Doomscrollart 27 дней назад

      @portnuefflyer exactly. And honestly, over the last 20 years that he had the property, the entire thing needs to be updated at any rate.

  • @wf2v
    @wf2v Год назад +41

    So I guess you are picking up approximately 12 Kwh of energy per day or ~360 Kwh per month. Not bad for free!

    • @darrenthumbsup2881
      @darrenthumbsup2881 5 месяцев назад +2

      Not exactly free… what was the upfront installation cost and any ongoing maintenance?

    • @ZS1736
      @ZS1736 5 месяцев назад

      @@darrenthumbsup2881probably 100 times cheaper than however youd get it from a utility company

    • @woshi_zuan
      @woshi_zuan 4 месяца назад

      ​@@darrenthumbsup2881you also need to know how many years or months it last for it to need maintenance

    • @woshi_zuan
      @woshi_zuan 4 месяца назад

      ​@@darrenthumbsup2881you also need to know that each maintenance doesn't mean you need to replace ALL the things every time there's maintenance.
      The maintenance might only be a certain component or part that need to be changed.
      No big deal absolutely worth it.

  • @MrRhombus3331
    @MrRhombus3331 Год назад +27

    What brand micro hydro turbine was the homeowner using? Great looking system and very informational video!

    • @torg2126
      @torg2126 Год назад +4

      Probably not Whirlpool, it doesn't look like a repurpurposed washing machine 😂

    • @alexanderjones6383
      @alexanderjones6383 Год назад +3

      I wondered if it was a Kris Harbor thing.

    • @HuckleberryJoe
      @HuckleberryJoe 2 месяца назад

      My bet is Langston Alternative Power. Seth and Spencer have been collaborating for a while.

  • @Jim-ku6ry
    @Jim-ku6ry 3 месяца назад +6

    I saw a video where they installed a hot water tank to pull the extra charge off the system. This way you don't over work the turbine. There was a temperature monitoring unit on it so if it reached a certain temperature it would flush the hot water out. Kind of cool.

  • @Zindolin
    @Zindolin Месяц назад +2

    Its a great concept. For long term use. Transitioning to stainless steel piping for the length of the system. Weather permitted you can also use a heat tape to keep it from freezing in extreme temps. I love the concept! 😎👍

  • @james94582
    @james94582 Год назад +33

    Awesome video, and great information... Especially for a newb like me trying to learn about these types of setups.... I love WNC and wish I had a place in the woods I could setup like that..

    • @LandtoHouse
      @LandtoHouse  Год назад +4

      Thank you for watching. It's nice to know that my videos are helpful for educational purposes. This system really was designed nicely and working well.

    • @karaabdelkader1273
      @karaabdelkader1273 11 месяцев назад

      @@LandtoHouse I'm not expert at electricity but that's a lot work for a mere 500watts so I have to ask : is it making 500 watts per hour, or per minute or oer second (instantly) because if it's per hour, it can power only a fridge, ceiling fan and a tv at max so not really worth it. But if it's at least per minute or per second it will be actually worth it.

    • @АнтонСтеков-у8с
      @АнтонСтеков-у8с 5 месяцев назад

      @@karaabdelkader1273 500 watts per sec. = 500 W*h in hour or 12KW*h in day(24 hour)

  • @seanpierce7673
    @seanpierce7673 10 месяцев назад +1

    Why not use a wheel that is cheaper and you don't need concrete in a creek bed! And can have a shaft that spins and can make your power with less material and maintenance

  • @Spidey_T
    @Spidey_T 7 месяцев назад +1

    I just want to know why it couldnt be just used as a/c current why does it need to be downsized to d/c just to be upsized again to a/c this confuses me.

  • @namAehT
    @namAehT Год назад +2

    Forgive my ignorance as RUclips randomly recommended this to me, but is this permitted in any way? Most states are protective of the rivers, creeks, and streams that run within them, and for very good reason.
    Here in Pennsylvania, a friend of my grandfather was looking into replacing the dam on their property and was told that they may only repair or remove it as the state does not allow the construction of new dams without a special permit. Granted this hydro system has far less of an impact than that dam did, but again: states are protective of their waterways.

    • @LandtoHouse
      @LandtoHouse  Год назад +2

      In this state, we have permission to use a percentage of the Creek as long as it returns to the Creek. Farmers also have rights to use a percentage for irrigation. Dams are another story.

    • @namAehT
      @namAehT Год назад +1

      @@LandtoHouse I see, I assumed that the little concrete weir at the start counted as a dam/obstruction.

  • @xlZENlx
    @xlZENlx 7 месяцев назад +1

    You know. I live in the suburbs, I wonder if you could hide the piping from the city and have your water coming in to your house go through a micro hydro setup before you use it lowering your electric bill lol

    • @Terszel
      @Terszel 6 месяцев назад

      Do you not pay for water?

  • @Tom_M_Riddle
    @Tom_M_Riddle 3 месяца назад +3

    You are super good at explaining this. Most videos are confusing. Thank you

  • @brighamc6211
    @brighamc6211 Год назад +5

    Does anyone know whether this is more or less expensive than the 500 watt equivalent of solar panels? I’m assuming it is, and I love that it works at night and cloudy days too.

    • @bigiron4018
      @bigiron4018 11 месяцев назад +4

      I assume this would cost more yes. But as you said it has its benefits, but requires a significant resource whereas sun is plentiful.
      But really, since solar only harvests part of the day, you’d need a 1000W system and batteries to get a similar result.

    • @sknopster
      @sknopster 3 месяца назад

      "Does anyone know whether this is more or less expensive than [equivalent] solar panels? I'm assuming it is..."
      You are 100% correct! It is definitely MORE or LESS expensive.
      (sorry, I could not resist! You said - I am assuming it is... Is more? OR Is less expensive? You left us hanging!)

  • @MrRobb-hb7lz
    @MrRobb-hb7lz Год назад +12

    great job! what was the total cost of this system?

    • @ruprectmonkeyboy1856
      @ruprectmonkeyboy1856 Год назад +1

      Many thousands. rule of thumb: $1/W for batteries. $1/W for inverters. $1/W for system charge controllers circuit breakers and wiring. So, there's about $20-25K there, without the hydro equipment.

    • @MrRobb-hb7lz
      @MrRobb-hb7lz Год назад

      thank you
      @@ruprectmonkeyboy1856

    • @DuBstep115
      @DuBstep115 Год назад

      @@ruprectmonkeyboy1856 Its too small to make any sense, 500W? My neighbour has river running his backyard and his hydro turbine makes 17-21kW
      I would have just bought solar and batteries with this money

  • @jimdavies6764
    @jimdavies6764 Год назад +16

    Very clear presentation, thank you.
    No mention though of the costs. Why not? Also, is the house entirely off the grid, or is this system just for backup? At a constant 500 watts it would generate about 360 kwh/month (which is a bit light for me) and @30¢/kwh would save $108/mo in utility charges. How long does it take a $1,300/yr saving to pay off the investment?

    • @Justin-C
      @Justin-C Год назад +11

      It's not always about being "cheaper than grid power". Grid power might not have been an option at this location, or it might have been $30-50k to run if it were. I can say from experience that battery & inverter setup was probably in the neighborhood of $10-12k, with the hydro setup maybe another $5-10k.
      500W or ~12 kWh a day is no joke - that's more power over the course of a year than I use in my single family home. Supplement with solar as needed (and a generator for emergency backup power) and you're gold.

    • @ruprectmonkeyboy1856
      @ruprectmonkeyboy1856 Год назад +1

      Depends on whether there's mains power available at the site. If you're paying for a long power connection there's a large sunk cost for that. First customer pays, and the connection is not yours. 2nd person in can just tap into it, essentially for free, because it belongs to the utility company.

    • @gravelydon7072
      @gravelydon7072 Год назад +1

      @@Justin-C Down here if we had hills and water to use, that 500Watts would be just a drop in the bucket. Because the A/C is running almost all the time. Average daily consumption is around 67kWh.

    • @peoplenewstoday
      @peoplenewstoday Год назад +2

      Normally these systems get installed because of a choice. Run electricity to home, paying for poles, etc or go with hydro, solar and wind.
      A well balanced system can provide total home energy and no taxes paid at all! That’s the most important part.

    • @Joenzinator
      @Joenzinator Год назад +1

      ​@@gravelydon7072 The consistent power is nice though. I could see using one of these in conjunction with a solar array.

  • @jock8050
    @jock8050 Год назад +5

    Would Y pieces not be more efficient than the T pieces where the water exits the system and hits the generator? Great job on this system in any case well done!! I see a lot of questions on cost but with the way energy prices are always going I would say it would soon pay for itself.

    • @jonclement
      @jonclement Год назад

      I think the generator prefers pressure over volume. So it's likely less turbulent then it seems

  • @susanvaughn741
    @susanvaughn741 9 месяцев назад +2

    I think more experimentation needs to be done on the impulse wheel. I feel there is more energy available than you are getting.
    Perhaps a jet turban inside the pipe with thru shaft to the outside thru a 45 degree bend to generator.
    Or, a turgo runner, instead of a pelton.
    The problem with pelton is that it relies on head pressure, but resist the flow. Water has to slow down to get the job done.
    It’s like getting lots of amps, but slow volts.
    Very nice set up!

  • @jeffjefferson2676
    @jeffjefferson2676 Год назад +46

    Having a piece of land with a lot of height difference and a creek has a lot of added value because you can get a lot of electricity, and its constant. Pretty good!
    I would surely add solar panels too, and build an indoor greenhouse if I had that much free power.
    500 watts all day long can probably run all appliances of the house you run each day while they are not on all day long.
    Greetings,
    Jeff

    • @YamiKisara
      @YamiKisara Год назад +6

      You can always build a mini-dam (just a tub to catch the water, really) to balance out the lack of a height difference - I reckon it's better to build it either way, because creeks don't have a constant flow of water year-round and you'd wanna account for that fluctuation.

    • @asdfasdf-dd9lk
      @asdfasdf-dd9lk Год назад +4

      @@YamiKisara Not how that works, you can't artificially add height difference, the energy comes from the change in height of the water from the source to the drain. This takes advantage of all of the 50ft of head using that pipe, which is superior to a dam. In terms of a small scale energy storage solution (since 500W isn't enough for most appliances, but averaged over the day and night ought to be more than enough) would be a battery, since a dam for energy storage simply isn't reactive enough to fluctuate to power, say, a toaster or something.

    • @GEEZYEA777
      @GEEZYEA777 Год назад +2

      @@asdfasdf-dd9lk They can still use a reactive turbine for the larger creek/reservoirs with less head; Pretty sure it goes as low as 5 foot but the reactive turbines need a higher volume flow rate than the pelton turbine used in this video

    • @mattcintosh2
      @mattcintosh2 Год назад +9

      500 constant watts over the course of a year at 14 cents a kwh is about $600 worth of free power a year

    • @oldbatwit5102
      @oldbatwit5102 Год назад +1

      @@mattcintosh2 14 cents?
      In Britain I pay around 45 cents per Kw hour. plus standing charges.

  • @davidblake1663
    @davidblake1663 Год назад +6

    Thanks for an excellent video. I'm sure it's all been well thought out by people way more knowledgeable than me, but I have a question regarding the "battery full" scenario: If the turbine goes into near free-spin, and switches to high volt and low current as you said, then there's next to no load on the system. With commercial power stations that's a "no-no." Important and expensive things break in spectacular fashion. I'm sure the box is "smart," but wouldn't it be better to have a servo operated valve to shut down the water flow just to be sure?

    • @80aj
      @80aj Год назад +3

      Kris Harbour has a great channel all about this. He is in Whales and he builds his own, and does exactly what you said. He has servos set up that can increase/decrease water pressure and flow to the turbine, and if all hell breaks lose, it can even just dump all the water from a gate valve later. Pretty impressive stuff really.

    • @davidblake1663
      @davidblake1663 Год назад

      @@80aj Hi, I follow Kris -- great channel. It's nice to see how different folk go about their Hydro set-up.

    • @portnuefflyer
      @portnuefflyer 27 дней назад

      @@davidblake1663 My hydro system has a load controller that senses when the voltage starts to climb above a setpoint, it shunts the power to a dump load (resistors) to keep the turbine from over speeding. Mine does this when the grid goes down, if charging batteries, when the batteries reach float, the same thing would happen.

  • @matthiasnickerson3058
    @matthiasnickerson3058 Год назад +3

    That intake system looks just like a miniature version of what was on this dam ran by Georgia Power that I grew up swimming at.

  • @__-cr6fv
    @__-cr6fv Год назад +10

    Awesome system, excellent coverage!

  • @curmudgeinnak
    @curmudgeinnak 26 дней назад

    Hello Seth. I recently found a small creek that comes off the hill behind out house here in Alaska. It has a pretty good flow rate but is narrow. We would love to create some power to offset the days when solar is to low. We run a 24v system here with a growatt 3000 inverter and two 200ah lithium batteries.On average we use about 5-6amps an hour. I would love to be able to pretty much keep the batteries on float except at times we use more. Is this something that can be done? If I go towards the top of the creek it is around 250' above and 500 yards from the house where I want to create a pond for it to drain into. The creek goes below ground at the base of the hill and does not feed into another body of water. What about rises in the ground? Can this be over come by valves to release air that gets trapped?

  • @Pomaufour
    @Pomaufour Год назад +1

    Can't we get a cost estimate for the setup ? I guess if it is very remote it is irrelevant, but would be nice to know how much - especially the battery bank - costs

    • @davek2690
      @davek2690 Год назад +1

      The batteries are $1400 a piece so this is a pretty expensive setup

    • @cyclicl7312
      @cyclicl7312 Год назад

      ​​@@davek2690yeah thats some change for those. Could dummy it up with lead acid or AGM batteries, but would need more and have a shorter life span.

  • @holisticveterans6682
    @holisticveterans6682 Год назад +2

    What’s the cost of this system? Excellent video!

  • @chikambambam3492
    @chikambambam3492 Год назад +1

    Wow I thank you ,I I followed you on Ram pump but this my favorite micro giriid I hope you to buid one in Genbu Nigeria and in my apple farm by God grace in the future

  • @stevestefler880
    @stevestefler880 Год назад +1

    Nice vid. But it is all done just for the showcase: it's unreliable and temporal. Wood that gonna rot, pvc under sun , exposed wires and connections, li-on batteries that lose capacity after year of use. And the price of new house :)

  • @LH2N
    @LH2N Год назад +4

    How much would all of this cost to install?

  • @gonzo_the_great1675
    @gonzo_the_great1675 Год назад +5

    I note that there is no data between the Midnight charge controller and the batteries?
    This could result in an overcharge situation. (Though with cautious setting of the max charge voltage, this can be mitgated against, to some extent.)
    Also, it would be better to have a 3ph breaker on the AC input from the turbine, rather than a on the output DC. Allowing protection/isolation from a failed diode pack. (I won't comment on the beer can heatsink!)
    Interesting walk around though.

    • @sckirbyc1
      @sckirbyc1 Год назад

      Can you please explain the beer can heat sink? Is it shown at a certain time?

    • @gonzo_the_great1675
      @gonzo_the_great1675 Год назад +1

      @@sckirbyc1 12:12
      (Might be Pepsi?)
      Enjoy!

    • @alexevans2891
      @alexevans2891 Год назад

      Isn't the point of the charge controller to automatically know the max potential of the batteries and cut off before it gets there? That's how my (very, very cheap, 10a solar) charge controller works

    • @gonzo_the_great1675
      @gonzo_the_great1675 Год назад +1

      @@alexevans2891 The charge controller can only (usually) sense battery charge state based on battery voltage. That is ok for lead acid. But unreliable for lithium.
      The BMS in the batts 'should' keep a record of the accumulated charge and then command the controller as required.
      My own system does rely on battery voltage, and me keeping a close eye on it. So I am just as guilty. But I wouldn't recomend it for a fit and forget installation.

    • @alexevans2891
      @alexevans2891 Год назад

      @@gonzo_the_great1675 Got it! I didn't know that about lithium ion. Thanks for the info!

  • @BrenoBLC
    @BrenoBLC 3 месяца назад +1

    You loose all the kinetic energy with that T pvc connection in the entrance of the turbine. Did a lot of good work, wasted it all in the basics.

  • @sirjames1977nc
    @sirjames1977nc Год назад +7

    That is a top quality system. I bet that battery cost a bit. But pays itself off. Well done🎉

    • @andrewallason4530
      @andrewallason4530 Год назад +7

      I have friends who were quoted $85k for a mains supply. They were able to completely off-grid for less than half that cost, and have never had a power cut, unlike many of their ‘near’ neighbours on-grid.

    • @boblatkey7160
      @boblatkey7160 Год назад +3

      Well I would say it's absolutely sloppy electrical workmanship.

    • @sparked3113
      @sparked3113 Год назад +8

      People will be using 2nd hand EV batteries for this set up in the near future.

    • @andrewk8636
      @andrewk8636 Год назад +3

      that battery isnt necessary for hydro setups. i wonder if they have solar as well because 12kw a day from hydro isn't enough unless they're extremely minimalist and efficient. if you have sufficient hydro power you can get by just fine with a much smaller battery because water flows at night too. solar needs huge batteries because of no power generation at night. similar option if you have a reservoir that doesn't have enough flow for all day you can use solar and open the water valve at night too to save on battery costs but that doesn't work with streams

  • @CalebcallowayFGW
    @CalebcallowayFGW 11 месяцев назад +1

    For this set up what is an estimated cost for the complete build?

  • @stevenrobertson9583
    @stevenrobertson9583 Год назад +17

    WOW such a small compact system that produces 3 phase a/c electricity is just AWESOME!

    • @LandtoHouse
      @LandtoHouse  Год назад +2

      For this family way way back in the woods 500w is really doing them good.

    • @ruprectmonkeyboy1856
      @ruprectmonkeyboy1856 Год назад +1

      It's likely not usable as 3 phase. Probably too high a frequency. This is the reason for the rectification, and subsequent inverter. If it was 60 Hz there'd be no need for that intermediate step. The point is, no 3 phase motors allowed.

    • @scottadams3544
      @scottadams3544 Год назад +1

      ​@ruprectmonkeyboy1856 good observation. Yes the 3phaze would have its own phase position and not be able to connect (align position) with the grid phase position.
      But
      You could use it "dirty" to run many things. Like heating element, an old resistance light bulb is fun because you can sometimes see the HZ hertz cycle of the generator. 40hz to 60hz depending on the speed.
      You would need/want an AC capacitor and regulator transphormer to run anything with a computer in it.
      The capacitor should reduce any power surges and the regulators wa a a a w taped in before the rectifier will give you that clean power wave. 120v without the losses that a

    • @ruprectmonkeyboy1856
      @ruprectmonkeyboy1856 Год назад +3

      @@scottadams3544 those small alternators don't typically run at 50-60 Hz. A PM alternator like that can't speed regulate electrically by increasing the torque load, so it's gonna spin at whatever speed it wants to, and create AC at whatever frequency it wants to. That's not usable in any other way than they way they're doing it, other than in a heater or incandescent load as you mention.

    • @MariuszChr
      @MariuszChr 6 месяцев назад +1

      Your car's alternator is also this.

  • @NSResponder
    @NSResponder 6 месяцев назад +1

    Former colleague of mine has a place in Oregon with a year-round stream. There's about a 300 foot change in elevation across his property. Not sure how much power he's making, but he's running his house and wood shop on a Pelton turbine. He's using firehose instead of pipes to feed his system, apparently hose that's considered too worn for the firetruck was available at a very reasonable price.

  • @KK-be8rv
    @KK-be8rv Год назад +1

    500 Watts constant delivery is impressive. it's enough for passiv consumers like fridges and can serve a computer. With battery together, it should be enough to run a whole household.

  • @PLTSsederhana_
    @PLTSsederhana_ 25 дней назад +1

    You are super good at explaining this. Thank you.

  • @Joenzinator
    @Joenzinator Год назад +1

    12KWh is a little light, so I think I'd run this in combination with some solar panels and get a hybrid charge controller. The consistent power output is nice though. I did some very rough math, and it seems the hydro setup would be about 2x the cost of a solar setup with similar daily output.

    • @LandtoHouse
      @LandtoHouse  Год назад +1

      They also installed a few solar panels. Very wooded valley with little sun and big trees.

  • @ScoopNemeth
    @ScoopNemeth 4 месяца назад

    How can you combine solar power with hydro power? How can that lithium battery tower kick in during the night and overcast days, even though you're using hydroelectric off-grid system. How can you power the whole house with both solar and hydro power together simultaneously at the same time?

  • @portnuefflyer
    @portnuefflyer Год назад +2

    My hydro system is putting out 832 watts into the grid as I type this. Gravity is a beautiful thing! True story: they person I bought my Coanada screen from 16 years ago was named.....Bob Weir. No, not the Grateful Dead Weir, but another one "a low dam built across a river to raise the level of water upstream or regulate its flow." Kind of the description of a C screen.

    • @oloyeadeniran8894
      @oloyeadeniran8894 Год назад

      What's your setup like and do you have a channel showing your setup?

    • @portnuefflyer
      @portnuefflyer Год назад

      @@oloyeadeniran8894 Not yet...

    • @OuidaEstep
      @OuidaEstep Месяц назад

      Can you send me pics of your system. Please my name is George estep.

  • @damiansnuff1605
    @damiansnuff1605 8 дней назад

    Excellent, basic system, however, I can never understand why more attention isn't placed on the surrounds of the PMA - why not build a complete shed together with noise dampening insulation over the PMA and wooden raft? - this would provide protection for maintenance and keep everything in tip top condition....

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    @Rapture_Ready_Rabbit Год назад

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  • @DJL587a
    @DJL587a Год назад +5

    Great video. I'd love to know what the cost of these hydro systems is.

    • @ThePyleDriver
      @ThePyleDriver Год назад +3

      Shopping for an off grid homesite now - land with reliable water that you have rights too is the biggest expense 😜

    • @ktmrider7592
      @ktmrider7592 Год назад +7

      I have 8” pvc all the way to my two turbines ( exact turbines as this video ) penstock is 900 ft. I have the exact same battery bank as the video . I have the Schneider 6848 XW Pro inverter, Schneider Charge Controller. And PDP. Two turbines means two runs of wire 400 ft each, two rectifiers, power disconnects etc… I also have 20 solar panels for summer months when 5he creek slows. I also purchased a custom coanda screen and hand built weir. The grand total is right at 35 k

    • @leebertie57
      @leebertie57 Год назад

      @@ktmrider7592 Thats not too bad.

    • @ktmrider7592
      @ktmrider7592 Год назад +1

      @@leebertie57 I have done 100 of the work. That is zero labor costs

    • @frederickandrea4132
      @frederickandrea4132 Год назад

      So how much power is needed to power the average home ? I don't think the 10 amps is enough, which is what the video showed as output.

  • @eastcoastnews9529
    @eastcoastnews9529 Год назад +2

    A rough estimate how much would a system like this cost that could produce 500 to 800 W

    • @antikommunistischaktion
      @antikommunistischaktion Год назад

      You're looking at at least $20k all in with the batteries consuming a large majority of that. That rackmount battery system roughly $15k on its own.

  • @GrowingUpGoudie
    @GrowingUpGoudie Год назад +5

    Very nice system, thanks for sharing.

    • @LandtoHouse
      @LandtoHouse  Год назад +2

      Thank you for watching! This install was so well designed.

  • @rogerthat487
    @rogerthat487 Год назад +2

    Where would we be without PVC from oil?

    • @aLatios
      @aLatios Месяц назад

      oil walked so good and intelligent people could run. Thanks oil!

  • @lmamakos
    @lmamakos Год назад

    The electrical wiring all looks pretty sketchy.
    Seems like the wire-nuts joining the alternator to the 10/2 cable ought to be protected in a box, especially in that humid/moist environment. The exposed rectifier just screwed to the wall is asking for trouble. And does that need a heat sink? Or is the concrete doing that? Exposed bus bars in the battery rack without protection is asking for trouble; a short there with the high currents available are gonna melt anything that comes across them. That battery to inverter wiring ought to tied down, not just hanging out of the top of the battery cabinet. Then the wiring in and out of the inverter is just hanging there under it's own weight and not tied down isn't great, either. The utility of those DC breakers, especially the DC power in and out of the battery cabinet would be greatly improved with some sort of labeling. So when fire/smoke is shooting out of something, you don't have to remember how that got wired up.
    I'd think that just because you're off grid doesn't mean you should ignore normal electrical codes and practices; seems like the associated safety would be good to have.
    I'm no electrician by trade, but.. I've added branch circuits, lots of current transformers to monitor power consumption, etc. Professionally, I've had to help design and operate large data centers and worried about UPS systems, standby generators, automatic transfer switches, etc. So I know enough to be dangerous and when to involve professionals. I think raising the bar on the electrical side of all this would improve the long term reliability of this installed system. And for the $$$ that someone spent on all those batteries, I would have expected a minor investment on the electrical craft work side of things. And I'd think the cost to have this be less scary is just a few hundred dollars.

  • @jessehanson8928
    @jessehanson8928 Год назад +1

    Very good explanation of plumbing and electricity systems, good all around video. Thankyou for your thoroughness

  • @xxxlonewolf49
    @xxxlonewolf49 Год назад

    Very cool. What kind of price is that setup?
    I would 'assume' the hardest part is getting land with constant running water you put to work? And then any idiotic 'environmental regs' put in place by well-meaning fools.

  • @ecomotive6158
    @ecomotive6158 Год назад +1

    You mentioned that a dip in the pipe would cause a partial air-lock and that's true but in practice the air trapped in the high point will eventually dissolve in the water and be carried out of the system.

  • @oscarnalikka2369
    @oscarnalikka2369 3 месяца назад

    Hello, watching and loving it all the way from Uganda East Africa. Which company made the system and how much does it cost?

  • @bradleyj.fortner2203
    @bradleyj.fortner2203 Год назад

    500w? That's what my PC power supply is rated for. Doesn't seem like much power if all it can do is power one PC.

  • @1990aeike
    @1990aeike Год назад

    Very bad setup on the pipes, lots of bends, have it as straight as possible. And gosh that setup at the turbine, holy shit that is just terrible, full of 90s bends😂 And at least install a bypass at the main valve down by the turbine. Close that valve fast and your pipes will blow a joint or crack a pipe.

  • @rayduffy475
    @rayduffy475 Год назад +1

    Brilliant....I'm just looking into this process....you explained that very well...thankyou

  • @juanmanuelfc
    @juanmanuelfc Год назад

    Please excuse my ignorance, I was fascinated by the video, but it was as if someone were speaking Chinese to me. I have no idea how much electricity costs where this is set up. I also have no idea how much this kind of system costs to purchase and install. Does anyone know how long this kind of system takes to get a return on investment? Thank you.

  • @malloott
    @malloott 4 месяца назад

    These systems all lose so much power with these bends 😮

  • @saulgoodman7221
    @saulgoodman7221 2 месяца назад

    That panel feed looks way too small for 100 amp breaker. Looks like #6 feeders?? What size are they?

  • @treydogg77
    @treydogg77 4 месяца назад

    Im mechanical inclined, and having watched multiple videos and doing research online. I would hire a contractor to assist me with a install. There’s a lot of calculations that has to be done to insure it meets your particular needs.

  • @cristof48
    @cristof48 Год назад +2

    hello, it's not a Pelton wheel, it's a Turgo wheel.

    • @udos46
      @udos46 Год назад

      bonjour Cristof, on toujour la maladie pelton .......

    • @LandtoHouse
      @LandtoHouse  Год назад +2

      They use a Pelton style cup or scoop. The pma is a turgo style.

  • @brianrichmond3777
    @brianrichmond3777 Год назад

    Too much cost for too little power. Lots of additional environmental impact from materials, batteries, etc. Is it located where the water freezes, if it is that's a problem too. Was permission required and was it obtained to do what was done?

  • @jimvsmij1973
    @jimvsmij1973 Год назад +1

    Would it create more pressure and possibly more electricity if the pipe was 6inches from beginning to end?

    • @Justin-C
      @Justin-C Год назад

      Setups like this rely more on head/pressure than flow, so no - not really.

  • @toymaker3474
    @toymaker3474 Год назад

    technically speaking electricity is not produced but manifested into this Cartesian space. nothing is being generated or produced

  • @LeoCormack
    @LeoCormack 11 месяцев назад

    What if you cannot cement your hydro screen box in? Does anyone have a hydro system where is snows and freezes or do you pull the system out in winter?

  • @mjktrash
    @mjktrash Месяц назад

    I'm surprised that you're only getting ~500w out of that.

  • @Kanglar
    @Kanglar 11 месяцев назад

    So there's no protection until after the rectifier, and no control on the generator? What if there's a fault on the line from the generator to the rectifier? Or even worse, a fault at the rectifier inside the house?? If you can't trip the generator or interrupt a fault at the rectifier seems like that's a recipe for a house fire.