Did you consider that the people working on the case might have access to more information than you do and they might have a very good reason for the decisions they made? Her confession was false. Like, we know for an absolute certainty that she wasn't in the apartment when the girl died. This confession is one giant rambling lie. She did not actually do any of the things she's saying she did.
@@bleepbloop6234 did you miss the part where she offered up not one but both of her CHILDREN to be s*xually abused? On multiple occasions.. with different men she was meeting on online… what was the point of your comment do you think she deserved less time?
This is where I live, ABQ, NM. I remember it happening. So sad n horrifying, I've never been the same, poor little girl. I pray her little brother is doing great and these monsters stay in prison. May God keep Victoria in His arms forever
It was a false confession. You should look deeper into this case. It was the cousin and bf that killed the little girl. This woman didnt even know what happened. That's why she was let out of prison.
Sadly I have seen worse and heard worse except the thing I have seen have been war crimes on my babies in my family and the world sat back and watched and said it was ok actually it's do bad then things I have seen personally
I dont know how these people do this for a living, I dont have anywhere near the self control it takes to not lose your temper talking to these ANIMALS
I’m a 39 year old man from Africa. A lot of bad stuff happens here, just like anywhere else in the world. But this is by far one of the most, if not the most shocking, despicable, vilest things I have seen on here. My blood is literally boiling right now, every minute of this feels like my faith is being tested. The whole thing is so unreal and infuriating to watch! I really wish Fabian, Michelle Jessica and David, and anyone else involved the worst fate possible. RIP Victoria
Calm yourself; the confession can't be trusted, as there is substantial evidence neither Michelle nor Fabian were actually at the apartment at the time of Victoria's death. Do a web search, see for yourself.
"After you guys cut the arms off Victoria, cut her leg off... then you went and made dinner... " might be one of the most insane things I've ever heard. Who could ever participate in dismembering their own child and then still want to eat?! I cannot fathom. And every time I think this story can't possibly get worse, it does. Poor sweet baby girl. You deserved so much better.
@@conservativemamabear3508 oh it is true I just came to say the same thing. She’s not mentally well and the shrinks say she’s extremely susceptible to suggestion due to her mental illness. Notice how she says everything they suggest she agrees with she says I don’t remember and they say yes you do and then she changes it. She changes her over and over because none of it was true. In fact, her phone record and her boyfriend prove that they weren’t anywhere near the scene when killed. I write about this along time ago, but I I just looked and the stories are still out there. Why do you think she wasn’t charged with murder after I confession that?
Agreed it was totally up to her to protect her children, no one else's job. She was supposed to be the Gatekeeper!! She is the most culpable. No one would have hurt her children if it weren't for her. 😢 my heart literally bleeds for those children, I am curious about her own upbringing and what her family's reaction was to this 😔
yeah. it's up there with the one with the infant whose uncle and father took turns abusing while her mother was sleep in the same room......Nevermind I take it back. Both are horrific but SHE WATCHED????
A FAN of true crime? Listen I’m not starting shit just to start shit. I take constructive criticism all the time I really believe it sounds a whole lot better to say you are INTERESTED in true crime or fascinated with the human mind of people who commit these crimes but saying you’re a FAN doesn’t sound good I’ve had an immediate family member killed and it seems like fans cheer for sports teams or killers
@@tedmorgan4135 you dislike or hate people specifically who work as police officers? So much crime is prevented every minute all around you thanks to police. Sounds like you're a career criminal who hates getting caught and punished.
I got to agree with with you and this might be the worse than any of the stuff on Dexter I can't stand her crying it was hard trying to sit through this you just chopped up my daughter want some tacos f****** sick to my stomach
@@Genethug187This is a false confession. The detectives manipulated a mentally ill, traumatised and highly suggestive person into giving them this confession. The prosecutor Torres made a timeline, where there’s cctv footage of her and fabian not even being at the house at the time of the murder. It’s on wikipedia and multiple articles. Thats why she only got 12 years for neglect and not murder.
A woman who was driving in the highway caught with two giant bags of pills gets 12 years vs a woman who signed many men to come in and assault her daughter while she joined in over 100-200 times (6 months to a year) concluding with her chopping her daughter up and burning her being equal?!!?
The mother receiving only a 12 year sentence has to be the most absurd thing I’ve ever heard. She tortured and voluntarily had her 10 year-old daughter sexually assaulted multiple times. And Fabian getting anything less than life is just mind blowing. Cases like these show you how broken our justice system really is.
Welcome to reality. Whoever makes a deal first benefits the most. She is scum but she didn't kill her daughter. The other two scumbags did that. The prosecution always tries to flip the weakest link to testify against the others.
@ I say the mother is just as guilty for the murder of her daughter being that she enjoyed watching her get sexually assaulted, which is what led to her death. Her mother is the only reason why she ended up being sexually abused, tortured and eventually killed.
@@Mewsette1and you don’t attack a child. A police officer is armed and trained. A child is a child. Innocent. Not trained. Not armed. Children usually trust their mothers and looked how that turned out. Yes, no matter the state, these types of POS should get more than someone attacking an adult who is armed and trained
Sells Mary Jane 25 to 50 years with maybe chance of parole. Does unspeakable inhumane disgusting things to her children, 12 years. Wow. I think this place needs a factory reset. It's too far gone.
@@SpicyTexan64 because they pointed out or agreed with a proven ongoing disparity between sex crime prison time and cannabis “crimes” ? That’s not dunning Kruger mate. Tossing out a kneejerk ad hominem bc someone said something negative about America is pretty extra.
@SimplyWhitney_AssuredGuidance she didn't do that to her child. This is a fake confession. Just Wikipedia the case. It's really irresponsible of this video creator to make this video. 10 mins of research, and he would have learned this is a false confession.....and not a BS Central Park 5 "false confession," an actual false confession. The prosecutor openly says as much in the trial, hence why she only got 12 years for child neglect leading to death.
@@dukedematteo1995 I swear some of these channels love women being evil (those cases get a lot of clicks), so now they're resorting to just posting fake confessions
Did you notice that moment when the male officer takes the tissue box off the table. She was clearly using the tears as an attempt for sympathy and he subtly let her know he didn't buy it for a second. Taking away her option, symbolically. Boss move. That guy was millimeters away from going all Bruce Wayne, putting a chair against the door and discovering a disappointing malfunction in the closed circuit camera system. Only thing that was putting the brakes on that was the knowledge of the 4th guy.
Hands down the most horrific account of assault and torture that I’ve ever heard and I am a nurse I’ve heard it all. There is a special place deep in hell for this mother. No words!
They use "the body" as a way to detach the suspects emotions from the case. The detective did great choosing to use her emotions Instead. Colder individuals tho, would pull away from admitting they killed a little girl. But if it's just "a body" it doesn't sound horrifying to some.
@MontagZoso Michelle is a victim in this. None of this story is being told in truth. It was a false confession. Jessica beat Michelle and she didn't know her child was murdered until the cousin was helping dismember the body. Dna was not any of them. Jessica was with someone in apartment when this took place. She never gave the person up.
@gromer-v8s my cousin testified in the trail. Sabrina. I saw Victoria when I would go visit. She would help push my cousin who was disabled. I meet Jessica in war zone in Albuquerque. If you read the case files you find out the truth on all sides... try the trail.
This was proven to be a false confession. 4:25 p.m.: Victoria Martens gets off the bus & goes home. Michelle and Fabian aren’t present at this time. 5:07 p.m.: Michelle & Fabian return to the apartment. 6:05 p.m.: Victoria goes to gas station with Fabian. 6:15 to 6:20 p.m.: Victoria and Fabian return to the apartment. 6:30 p.m.: Michelle & Fabian leave and go to Paradise Hills. 7:02 p.m.: Michelle & Fabian return to the apartment. 7:05 p.m.: Victoria is seen alive by neighbors. 7:06 p.m.: Michelle and Fabian leave again. 7:38 p.m.: Michelle and Fabian are near Rio Bravo Boulevard and Coors Boulevard. 7:59 p.m.: Michelle and Fabian are seen near Five Points and Bridge Boulevard. 8:47 p.m.: Michelle and Fabian arrive at the apartment. 8:48 p.m.: Eyewitnesses say Victoria’s body is seen being carried outside the apartment.[2][a] Torrez said this proves Martens and Gonzales were not present when the murder and rape occurred.[3] Subsequently, Torrez announced nine of the charges against Fabian Gonzales including second-degree murder and criminal sexual penetration were dropped.[2] Gonzales faced a series of charges including child abuse resulting in death and tampering with evidence of which he was found guilty.[2][3] Michelle Martens is believed to have falsely confessed to actively participating in the murder.[2] Martens was sentenced to 12 years in prison.
I’m a school counselor and this is my biggest fear…I know some of my students don’t have the perfect lives but it scares me to think one of them, or more, go home to a house of terror. The one time a student came forward, the judge wouldn’t listen to anything she said and made her still visit dad. Thankfully, that man OD’d a year later so she was free from him. I’ve never cried so hard as a counselor than I did the day I went to court for her because I felt like I failed her. The courts failed this child too because those monsters deserve life behind bars. Rest Peacefully, sweet Victoria… I’m so sorry you weren’t shown the love you deserved on earth but may you know unconditional love and protection in heaven. ❤️
I feel like all of these S.A cases are just a slap on the wrist. These people are sick especially the mother I don't understand how someone could do such a thing to their own baby 😡
Damn right. A couple days after Xmas, I saved my daughter (and myself) from a house fire. My right arm is barely usable right now, but I'd do it all over again. Plus some decent time off work. Ps. The house was saveable, we've just lost 1 room until I recover.
Yeah, the confession can't be trusted. Cell phone records supposedly indicate neither Fabian nor Michelle were actually at the apartment at the time of Victoria's death, directly contradicting this horrific confession. Do a web search to learn the rest of the story.
I am shocked. This is the most disturbing things I’ve heard. And I can from watching the Al McLean story. I didn’t think anything could top that. Meth is one of the most effed up drugs on this planet. Speechless 😶
Think it's high on the list of the worst cases I have ever heard. Utterly heartbreaking for both children. 12 years for that beech does not cut it. That's infuriating.
You can get more than 12yrs for punching a cop. Our system sucks so bad Hearing the crimes are so appalling until heard the punishment they received on freaking believable. I sure hope jailhouse justice pre-fails for those poor children.
I’m a man in my 30’s and I never get upset, but this right here, I’m crying for these kids. This breaks my heart into tiny pieces. Rest in peace little girl, you’ll never be forgotten.
I feel like vomiting, and my heart aches. How is it possible for someone to hold a job while clearly appearing to have a mental illness, and what kind of mental illness could this be, according to psychologists? Why don’t we require permits or certificates before having children? After six to twelve thousand years of human civilization, why do we still reproduce without any rules or regulations, like wild animals? Meanwhile, people like Trump and Elon Musk encourage others to have more children.
I am glad that you feel this way it means you care and it doesn’t matter how old you are this one will hurt and anger real men and women! Those babies deserved so much more! The fact that that poor excuse for a mother tried to blame the biological father of hurting his son and Victoria really angered me! I’m glad the detectives seen right through her crap! ❤
The mom actually deserved the heaviest sentence her job was to protect her children and not only did she not protect them she handed them off to sick monsters to have their way with them and WATCHED. These child abuse cases are getting worse and more frequent we need to do something to protect these children from their own parents 😔 the devil is real and he is alive in these monsters.
That's the worst part about it though. HOW can children EVER be safe from their own evil parents? Good parents can protect their children, but any evil person can have a child 💔 The damage has to already been done to even SAVE a child. It's devastating
appears to be tremendous work, however, would you believe that the entire confession was later determined to be all lies? That is what the Bernalillo County District Attorney, Raúl Torrez later determined using a time line. Supposedly the woman you just watched confess to this murder/r@pe actually had called the police 5 times to report the ongoing abuse.
In the months that followed, cell phone records and eyewitness accounts established that Ms. Martens was not home when her daughter died and therefore could not have participated in or witnessed Victoria's s3xual assault and subsequent murder.
I’ve been listening to like 10 true crime cases a day for the past 3 years and this is the worst I’ve ever heard. Never did I ever think I’d have to turn a case off.
How the heck were they not charged with capital murder? They should all be locked up without any chance of ever being released. The mother got 12 years!? What a disgrace.
It's because people can't be stopped from doing the nasty but they can be stopped from catching 100s of fish a day a dozen people do it then no more fish
I am a 51-year-old man. I have seen some pretty effed up crime videos, but nothing has ever broke me the way this video broke me. I’m Sitting here in tears, my heart is completely broken for these poor children.
Supposedly this was a “False confession”??? Idk for sure but a few people are commenting on other post that it was…….I don’t believe that “everything” she said was a lie……there had To be some truth to all that!! Smh….🤦🏻♀️
@@jcutler2011 Yes!! Came here to say that. I'm a mother and there's no way that I can imagine myself in her shoes. That poor little girl.. May she rest in peace . I hope her brother is ok and is getting therapy for his trauma. I hope and pray he has a long, good life from here on out.
This case makes me so angry. After this detailed confession, the DA turned around & said 'oh, most of that stuff's actually not even true' & let her plead out to 'neglect resulting in death' with a measly 12yr sentence after she already had 6yrs behind her. Sickening
This is a false confession. The detectives manipulated a mentally ill, traumatised and highly suggestive person into giving them this confession. The prosecutor Torres made a timeline, where there’s cctv footage of her and fabian not even being at the house at the time of the murder. It’s on wikipedia and multiple articles. Thats why she only got 12 years for neglect and not murder.
She wasn't worried about drugs she just needed an excuse for not calling the police besides "I participated". The drugs were also a convenient excuse for her death as well. She has reached top tier fuckedupness. There are no more levels beyond her.
you fell for her lies. She wasn't afraid of being caught with drugs. That was part of her lie before she knew they knew about her orchestrating all of the abuse.
The tears are not real at all. They are fake and the detectives deserve a medal for being capable of listening to her insincere sniveling without resorting to violence. Hats off.
Look into it. This is an infamous false confession now. The detectives have been criticised for their sick imaginations! They suggested & she agreed because she’s extremely vulnerable!
@suzimonkey345 It would have taken the video creator 10 mins to research the case and find out everything this woman said was BS. The woman wasn't at the apt when her daughter was murdered, and she never let men have seggs with the daughter. She still really screwed up by having these ex con drug addicts around and it cost her daughter her life.
The female detective has a strong stomach being able to fake compassion and hold this murderer's hand in order to make her talk. That I could never do.
I couldn't watch the whole thing but reading this comment made me sick! 12 years. That poor baby didn't even get to live 12 years. F her man!!! Special place in hell!
This happened in Albuquerque, NM. Almost nine years have gone by and till this day, I think about Victoria often. What a beautiful girl she is. Rest in peace, Beautiful Angel. ♥️
Victoria died in excruciating pain her heart and soul let go of her body to suffer no more.May her this little girl finds comfort peace and love with our Lord and God 🙏
You are one special person to be able to sit there and hold a monsters hand and coddle her just so you could find out the horrific truth...Bless that poor sweet little girl, the Detectives as well.
It’s how she got the most information and therefore the truth and most justice for Victoria. All she was thinking about was Victoria. To lie to this monster and play a part to get that truth is all she was thinking about.
I also loved the way the male detective kept removing the box of tissues off the table. Reminds me of an interrogation where they just doled out a couple of sheets of toilet paper to someone who was false sobbing. A small revenge, but telling!
I am 42 years old with 3 of my own children, and I would lay my own life down for not only my babies, but for ANY child! I seriously cannot wrap my mind around how people like this monster even exist! It makes me want to vomit to hear that this happened and does happen! It isn’t human, it’s monstrous! 🥺
I can agree with giving my life for my children and my grandchildren - but strange children?! Sorry, no - I don‘t want my own family to suffer from missing me….
I am absolutely with you and everything you just said I have two children and the only way something like that would happen to them and see if I was dead! In other words, you will have to kill me before you hurt my children in any way!
@Did you know that there are people who actually put their own lives on the line everyday for not just children, but others in general? They’re called policemen, firefighters, and soldiers.
@@IZaubermausI It's one thing to not want to go to that extent but to actually admit it like it's a flex? If tomorrow your family member faces this situation when you aren't around, but a 'STRANGER' saves them..... would you go and scold them cuz they weren't caring about their own families?? Hypocrite world.
@@IZaubermausIi don’t want kids and actually find them annoying. But i know dam well if i was her i would do anything i could to save an innocent human, disgusting . i would never live with myself if i didn’t try. she could have grabbed something and got them off her. gross
detective is so talented. the way she kept saying “victoria…your BABY GIRL” & “this is your baby girl victoria we are talking about here” very skilled interrogation technique!
Not to be mean cause she did really well overall but this beast of a mother doesnt care one bit about her children. Its sickening how vile and evil some "people" can be.
@@michaelboerlage7988getting her to lie is just as important if not more so then telling the truth in a situation like this. Not about her caring it’s about sending signals subconsciously and allowing them to react.
“Was he r@ping your son?” “Not really, no” WTF 🤬 😮😮😮 🤬 what kind of MOTHER allows her children to be sexually abused by anyone!!?? This is absolutely treacherous! I cannot listen to this any longer! I’m literally physically ill hearing this! And then seeing photos of this beautiful innocent little girl! Just thinking of what she endured during all those years of her life! God love her little heart!! How could her own mother that carried her in her womb for nine months, felt her tiny little kicks, her little hiccups, gave births to her! Held her in her arms as a brand new human being! Helped create this precious new little life, allow a monster, a DEVIL, to put his grimy ass hands and body parts on her and r@pe her!!!??? I’m disgusted to no end! This is absolutely the WORST tragedy I’ve ever heard! Not only did this beautiful little girl have to endure such disgusting pain, but it was also done either with her own MOTHER in the same damn room! OR by her mother’s own hands! I know she’s at peace now and not suffering anymore! Nothing or no one can harm her ever again! She’s safe from all harm in the Hands of our Dear Lord in Heaven! ❤❤❤
The confession can't be trusted, as there is strong evidence neither Michelle nor Fabian were actually in the apartment at the time of Victoria's death. I was surprised at what a web search turned up.
Because this interogation was all lies. What happened is aweful, but she was not there when the child was killed. Why she would make this up, I have no idea, but all you have to do is look the case up.
12 freaking years!?! She had s@x with him after he did that to her daughter!? I cannot even comprehend what this woman allowed to happen. Victoria, I pray that you are filled with the joy and peace of heaven. ❤
The US treat women as children, why do you think they act so immature on social media today. Its all white american women. And its from both blue and red states. The women here in my country are polite and kind, you wont find another country where so many have these type of attitudes
This is 100% the worst thing I have ever heard on RUclips. I cannot understand how people can do these horrible things to children. I hope they all suffer terribly for a very long time. My God, I cannot believe this is real.
For me, Timothy Ferguson's story is the worst because his agony lasted 7 months. His repulsive, demonic egg donor is responsible for having starved and tortured him. She'll never get out of prison thankfully, Judge Kacel put her away forever.
I am with you, hoping this isn’t real. Beyond horrible! Mother’s love is the strongest, making Tiger Moms and Bear Moms. How could she, how could she be the instigator and mother at the same time?! I wish I had not seen this 🤮🤮🤮
@@abelis644Stephen Hill... His parents chained him to the cabinets with Chain ran through a pipe. They starved him to death because , he was"sneaking food in the night" then when his fat ass mama was imprisoned in Galveston Texas she had the nerve to complain that the portions of the meals the (same ones they give everybody) weren't enough for her.
It’s real and it happens everyday. Until we as a collective species do something about it, it will keep happening over and over and over again. Perhaps when all of humanity unites in anger and finally does something, maybe it will stop. This has been happening for 400 years and won’t stop until you decide to act.
😢 Look into it. This is an infamous false confession now. The detectives have been criticised for their sick imaginations! They suggested & she agreed because she’s extremely vulnerable!
UNITED SATANIC ABOMINATIONS One gets the impression that Americans think that committing crimes is an Olympic sport. How peaceful and beautiful the world would be without the USA. Why are you like that?
You people know Jack about the law apparently. They lead her on a ton in this confession and she just keeps feeding them more of what she thinks they want. This video is very one sided and doesn't take into account her mental state, her IQ, etc. She should have a lawyer in there clearly. Like everyone
As a mom this is sickening and heartbreaking on so many levels. I could never sit back and watch someone harm one of my kids. I would go insane and not be able to hold back taking justice into my own hands. These criminals deserve to never see the light of day again.
@@kidstuff44555 BS! You Google it and you'll see that she as sentenced to 12 yrs in prison for this. And she used Plenty of Fish to find the men to SA her.
@@hayamousa5085 Because detectives botched this case by relying on this manipulated confession, the case was never solved. Neither the mother interviewed here, nor her boyfriend, were at home during the murder. An unknown man's DNA was found on the girl. The boyfriend's sister was at home and probably knows more than she's telling (which is why she recieved the longest sentence). There is no evidence that the mother ever pimped her daughter out for sex, in fact POF allowed police to trawl her accounts and nothing was found.
12 years????? The Judicial System IS SCREWED UP!!!! That is not justice for VICTORIA!!!! This is the most disgusting true crime case I have ever watched I was speechless and in shock -- Rest In Peace Angel
Whoever posted this video didn’t do the research because this was proven to be a false confession as crazy as that sounds. The mother and boyfriend weren’t even home when any of this happened.
Why did I watch this? I don’t think I’ll ever get it out of my brain. This is the most horrific thing I’ve ever watched. It shouldn’t even be on RUclips.
My daughters get scared of the dark or so called monsters and I’ve repeated it so many times that now I always say the real monsters are and they finish by saying the bad people that are walking on this earth. I talk to them about SA and always tell them it doesn’t discriminate and it can be anyone. Even someone you love. If they want to keep a secret from mommy that’s a first sign and you need to tell me immediately because no matter what they say even if they say they can hurt me they’re lying. I’m not scared and they can’t. They can’t sleep over anywhere and I always ask them about school and other situations to remind them always I have their back.
@@therealfatou what am i flipping? in the uk they're the usual suspects, which you seem to find amusing, are you also enabling, & protecting predators?
A lot of them are, yes. When you have a country that is run and controlled by a small elite group that have physical ownership of more than 80% of the money…..you’re going to have pedophile judges. Untouchables. Other countries have laws in place to keep things from turning into a dictatorship. America doesn’t.
Well they freely state "After you guys cut the arms off" but then bleep out the sound and caption for mar***ana so YT doesn't strike the vid. Some crazy sentencing. Some crazy censorship. Some crazy world!
10 years old :( The saddest part is knowing a kid of that age knows what loves is, knows what hate is, knows what pain is, knows what betrayal is! She would have been thinking, if not asking "Mum please help me, Stop them please!". This just makes me so sick to my stomach. That poor little girl, I hope the poor little baby didn't have to suffer with this stuff for long but unfortunately it sounds like that little girl endured this kind of sick stuff her whole life! :( RIP Victoria, you were done so wrong in such a short amount of life. Terror is what she lived.
This was proven to be a false confession. 4:25 p.m.: Victoria Martens gets off the bus & goes home. Michelle and Fabian aren’t present at this time. 5:07 p.m.: Michelle & Fabian return to the apartment. 6:05 p.m.: Victoria goes to gas station with Fabian. 6:15 to 6:20 p.m.: Victoria and Fabian return to the apartment. 6:30 p.m.: Michelle & Fabian leave and go to Paradise Hills. 7:02 p.m.: Michelle & Fabian return to the apartment. 7:05 p.m.: Victoria is seen alive by neighbors. 7:06 p.m.: Michelle and Fabian leave again. 7:38 p.m.: Michelle and Fabian are near Rio Bravo Boulevard and Coors Boulevard. 7:59 p.m.: Michelle and Fabian are seen near Five Points and Bridge Boulevard. 8:47 p.m.: Michelle and Fabian arrive at the apartment. 8:48 p.m.: Eyewitnesses say Victoria’s body is seen being carried outside the apartment.[2][a] Torrez said this proves Martens and Gonzales were not present when the murder and rape occurred.[3] Subsequently, Torrez announced nine of the charges against Fabian Gonzales including second-degree murder and criminal sexual penetration were dropped.[2] Gonzales faced a series of charges including child abuse resulting in death and tampering with evidence of which he was found guilty.[2][3] Michelle Martens is believed to have falsely confessed to actively participating in the murder.[2] Martens was sentenced to 12 years in prison.
Only if she actually lives through the whole 1mil. Years. If she dies before then justice would still have been stabbed in the back. Justicia is blind, and apparently in america, she has he priorities backwards.
Not only did she leave her kids with monsters, she WAS the monster and invited other monsters to enact some truly vile shit on those poor kids. I'm hugging my daughter a little tighter tonight. God bless
I'm thinking about how her son must feel knowing that she only is getting 12 years jail for standing by while his sister was killed and knowing she encouraged all this including drugging and having him assaulted too. This is so unfair to him too.
I'm in tears now, as a mother of a 10 year old little boy, who is my entire life. I just cant fathom these sickening horrific acts. I honestly never knew that people who are capable of all this actually exist. I think this is thee worst crime/crimes I've ever heard, ever.
I remember when my son was around 7 or 8, and the movie "Adam" was on. It was about a little boy who was abducted and worse. I could not watch that movie, I always said I would be in prison if someone hurt my child
The confession can't be trusted. It's possible Michelle didn't do most of the horrific things she admitted to, that Michelle was telling the interrogator what Michelle thought the interrogator wanted to hear. Do a web search, you'll find some interesting allegations of police and prosecutor mishandling of this case.
@@KrishDogVlog24 If that is true, it is SAD!!!!! I LOVED my little buddy, his walk around town was the highlight of his day. Dogs deserve someone who will LOVE them and do MORE than just the minimum
I threw up listening to this. I'm not an emotional person but I completely broke down and sobbed for a good 20 minutes. It doesn't get any worse than this. I can't find the words right now. May her soul Rest in Peace 🙏🙏
This disgust me how there are people going to prison longer then 12 years for way less of a crime than what this mother has done to her children. This should have gotten life without parole or dealth sentences
Mom was hungry for tacos within hours of her 10 year old girls death and dismemberment. Some of us lose weight from grief because we can't think about eating. Not her.
It is unfathomable to think that a woman who gave birth to Victoria(she is NOT a mother) who watch all of the evil crimes and eat immediately afterward! Every day stresses suppress my appetite, I cannot imagine a horrendous event like that! I would never allow anyone to harm any of my children, they would have to end my life too! Inconceivable to me! May that beautiful child RIP❤️🩹🙏🏼
I'd be very surprised to find out that the two who SA'd Victoria made it out of jail alive. Prisoners have a special place they like to send pedobears and it's usually a one way ticket and painful the whole trip. Add the rest of what these people did onto that and I have to upgrade this to amazed if they make it out alive.
It's a darn good thing that the lady detective became a cop and not a con because she's good. She's REALLY good at her job. SHE HELD HER HAND and was so good at being sympathetic even I believed her for a minute. I'm impressed by how good she is
I would not have been able to hide my true emotion and energy, no matter what facial expression I wore or what I could force my tone of voice to sound like.
Amen. Amen amen!! What a terrible thing to say! I dont believe that for every person, or any person!! Not for one second!! We will all be dead eventually! She deserved to decide that for herself- if she wanted to. ❤️
That's because those people turn out messed up, and sometimes they hurt other people and create more victims. The dead do not share the problems of the living.
I agree! I am truly truly sorry about what happened to you. I'm sure that's probably the last thing you wanna hear but please know if you don't know those people in monsters I came to the people that mess with kids.
I LITERALLY feel so sick I might actually vomit!! I mean this is thee most shocking interrogation I ever seen recently…the details she is giving while trying to fake cry is sooo disturbing!! Just got a chill up my spine!
I had finished eating . While relaxing started watching my stomach is 🤢 I’m trying EVERYTHING TO STOP FROM THROWING UP from hearing this sick monster. She’s no mother
@@karlagarcia1851 This was proven to be a false confession. 4:25 p.m.: Victoria Martens gets off the bus & goes home. Michelle and Fabian aren’t present at this time. 5:07 p.m.: Michelle & Fabian return to the apartment. 6:05 p.m.: Victoria goes to gas station with Fabian. 6:15 to 6:20 p.m.: Victoria and Fabian return to the apartment. 6:30 p.m.: Michelle & Fabian leave and go to Paradise Hills. 7:02 p.m.: Michelle & Fabian return to the apartment. 7:05 p.m.: Victoria is seen alive by neighbors. 7:06 p.m.: Michelle and Fabian leave again. 7:38 p.m.: Michelle and Fabian are near Rio Bravo Boulevard and Coors Boulevard. 7:59 p.m.: Michelle and Fabian are seen near Five Points and Bridge Boulevard. 8:47 p.m.: Michelle and Fabian arrive at the apartment. 8:48 p.m.: Eyewitnesses say Victoria’s body is seen being carried outside the apartment.[2][a] Torrez said this proves Martens and Gonzales were not present when the murder and rape occurred.[3] Subsequently, Torrez announced nine of the charges against Fabian Gonzales including second-degree murder and criminal sexual penetration were dropped.[2] Gonzales faced a series of charges including child abuse resulting in death and tampering with evidence of which he was found guilty.[2][3] Michelle Martens is believed to have falsely confessed to actively participating in the murder.[2] Martens was sentenced to 12 years in prison.
@ belief is not necessary and it’s not my timeline. I actually looked up the case. You don’t find it strange a court of law with a huge detailed confession only led to 12 years? Use some critical thinking.
As someone who’s been interested in psychology and true crime for the last 25 years, I’ve learned about some deeply disturbing crimes and the darkest depths of human depravity. This case is, by far, one of the worst that I have ever encountered.. There are people who’ve survived unimaginable abuse and trauma and yet they would never dream of inflicting such pain and suffering upon another human being. Then you have creatures like this “woman” and her cohorts…demons in skin suits. Evil walks among us.
@@joharland5332 and when asked if she was receiving money for this by the female detective, her response was no. I don't believe her; in fact, nothing she said in the whole interrogation was believable.
I agree! And how do these monsters find each other? It’s group evil… it’s so horrific it’s hard to even comprehend. Three adults and they all participated??? Even the mother of the child! My brain just won’t accept it let alone process it.
What level of acting must you learn as a detective to deal with this filthy, despicable woman. I cant believe she did this to her daughter and then this coverup. Who to trust now? What kind of world is this?
“I only ate one taco.” This woman cannot be for real. It’s somehow beyond evil. I’m rarely rattled or shocked by anything these days but I guess it still happens.
@@fetedesneiges6678 it's almost like she wants to garner sympathy or seem less terrible by saying she only ate one. I thought that was beyond reason until she said she slept with him afterwards.
Totally. But how do three people with those abominable traits find each other? "If you cut up my kid, I'll cook dinner!" Not anything I hear in the bars or beyond in my world.
@@sobegirl411right, I typically only eat 1 taco on a regular day... there's no chance in hell I'd be able to eat right after. Probably wouldn't be able to hours or even days later either. UNLESS I was guilty!
@@Ams_5590 I remember being about to eat a favourite meal when I heard that I loved one was terminally ill...obviously I couldn't eat and it took years before I could eat that particular meal again...
This was a false confession. Michelle was a crack head and was making stuff up. I can't believe this channel posted this for click bate. The cousing and boyfriend killed the little girl while the mom was not home. She was literally making everything up.
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12 years is actually insane, lock the judge up for 12 years
Let's also recognize this is in Texas. Not in a Liberal state. Every time it's in California they act like it's a liberal problem.
Lock me up for 12 years since i am non straight
You don’t go to jail for being gay, are you okay?? Lol being gay and being a child predator are pretty different things in my opinion.
Did you consider that the people working on the case might have access to more information than you do and they might have a very good reason for the decisions they made?
Her confession was false. Like, we know for an absolute certainty that she wasn't in the apartment when the girl died. This confession is one giant rambling lie. She did not actually do any of the things she's saying she did.
@@bleepbloop6234 did you miss the part where she offered up not one but both of her CHILDREN to be s*xually abused? On multiple occasions.. with different men she was meeting on online… what was the point of your comment do you think she deserved less time?
Of all the thousands of true crime stories I’ve watched in the last 30 years, this may be the worst thing I’ve ever heard!
This is where I live, ABQ, NM. I remember it happening. So sad n horrifying, I've never been the same, poor little girl. I pray her little brother is doing great and these monsters stay in prison. May God keep Victoria in His arms forever
Scrapper, same here. This is the worst.
It was a false confession. You should look deeper into this case. It was the cousin and bf that killed the little girl. This woman didnt even know what happened. That's why she was let out of prison.
@@c.5315Give us a break. This woman was clearly involved with this.
Sadly I have seen worse and heard worse except the thing I have seen have been war crimes on my babies in my family and the world sat back and watched and said it was ok actually it's do bad then things I have seen personally
That female detective deserves an Oscar for how well she played “true sympathy “
Yesss, she really does. This woman is so set on being a victim she would have told the wall :(
I dont know how these people do this for a living, I dont have anywhere near the self control it takes to not lose your temper talking to these ANIMALS
Oscars are for liberals
NOT sure I could touch that monster of a Mom
“Victoria” reiterated and emphasized many times. Poor Victoria.
I’m a 39 year old man from Africa. A lot of bad stuff happens here, just like anywhere else in the world. But this is by far one of the most, if not the most shocking, despicable, vilest things I have seen on here. My blood is literally boiling right now, every minute of this feels like my faith is being tested. The whole thing is so unreal and infuriating to watch! I really wish Fabian, Michelle Jessica and David, and anyone else involved the worst fate possible. RIP Victoria
You'll be surprised how much horrible stuff goes down here in the states
Calm yourself; the confession can't be trusted, as there is substantial evidence neither Michelle nor Fabian were actually at the apartment at the time of Victoria's death. Do a web search, see for yourself.
Heartbreaking 💔
There’s some many people in states that one of the reasons there is so many bad people…..
False confession. Do a web search, see for yourself.
"After you guys cut the arms off Victoria, cut her leg off... then you went and made dinner... " might be one of the most insane things I've ever heard. Who could ever participate in dismembering their own child and then still want to eat?! I cannot fathom. And every time I think this story can't possibly get worse, it does. Poor sweet baby girl. You deserved so much better.
Idk why the creator didn’t do their homework or deliberately left out the part where nothing she said was true. It was proven she wasn’t even there
@@melodieann8443what really?
@@melodieann8443that's not true. I looked it up and I can't find that anywhere.
This is my hometown, she was cut up and burned up and SAed poor babygirl
@@conservativemamabear3508 oh it is true I just came to say the same thing. She’s not mentally well and the shrinks say she’s extremely susceptible to suggestion due to her mental illness. Notice how she says everything they suggest she agrees with she says I don’t remember and they say yes you do and then she changes it. She changes her over and over because none of it was true. In fact, her phone record and her boyfriend prove that they weren’t anywhere near the scene when killed. I write about this along time ago, but I I just looked and the stories are still out there. Why do you think she wasn’t charged with murder after I confession that?
That mother should have gotten jail for 100 years without parole
Just say life without parole.
This was proven a false confession by detectives
Agreed it was totally up to her to protect her children, no one else's job. She was supposed to be the Gatekeeper!! She is the most culpable. No one would have hurt her children if it weren't for her. 😢 my heart literally bleeds for those children, I am curious about her own upbringing and what her family's reaction was to this 😔
Absolutely she should be UNDER THE JAIL
D34th would be my vote.
20 years as a police officer and a fan of true crime documentaries, this is, by far, the worst thing I've ever seen and heard.
yeah. it's up there with the one with the infant whose uncle and father took turns abusing while her mother was sleep in the same room......Nevermind I take it back. Both are horrific but SHE WATCHED????
I will never understand how a Mother could let them do this to her daughter? It's heartbreaking 😭,
Like the police are any better..😂
A FAN of true crime? Listen I’m not starting shit just to start shit.
I take constructive criticism all the time
I really believe it sounds a whole lot better to say you are INTERESTED in true crime or fascinated with the human mind of people who commit these crimes but saying you’re a FAN doesn’t sound good
I’ve had an immediate family member killed and it seems like fans cheer for sports teams or killers
@@tedmorgan4135 you dislike or hate people specifically who work as police officers? So much crime is prevented every minute all around you thanks to police. Sounds like you're a career criminal who hates getting caught and punished.
IT'S STORIES LIKE THIS...
Makes me appreciate Dexter's strong work ethic.
Sometimes, I wish he was real dude.
Agree!
Same. I do not understand how people like these are allowed to live.
I got to agree with with you and this might be the worse than any of the stuff on Dexter I can't stand her crying it was hard trying to sit through this you just chopped up my daughter want some tacos f****** sick to my stomach
@@Genethug187This is a false confession. The detectives manipulated a mentally ill, traumatised and highly suggestive person into giving them this confession. The prosecutor Torres made a timeline, where there’s cctv footage of her and fabian not even being at the house at the time of the murder. It’s on wikipedia and multiple articles. Thats why she only got 12 years for neglect and not murder.
Yessssss!!!
12 years, 37, 44, what???????? Even the deathpenalty isn't severe enough. This is pure evil.
Iets hope she gets what she deserves in prison..
A woman who was driving in the highway caught with two giant bags of pills gets 12 years vs a woman who signed many men to come in and assault her daughter while she joined in over 100-200 times (6 months to a year) concluding with her chopping her daughter up and burning her being equal?!!?
@@CherrySider she won't they protect them and the devil protects his own. She won't face true judgement till judgement day
Hell is a real place
If this isn't a life without parole or death penalty case then NOTHING ELSE can be.
The mother receiving only a 12 year sentence has to be the most absurd thing I’ve ever heard. She tortured and voluntarily had her 10 year-old daughter sexually assaulted multiple times. And Fabian getting anything less than life is just mind blowing. Cases like these show you how broken our justice system really is.
Welcome to reality. Whoever makes a deal first benefits the most. She is scum but she didn't kill her daughter. The other two scumbags did that. The prosecution always tries to flip the weakest link to testify against the others.
@ I say the mother is just as guilty for the murder of her daughter being that she enjoyed watching her get sexually assaulted, which is what led to her death. Her mother is the only reason why she ended up being sexually abused, tortured and eventually killed.
Too bad the b**** didn't live in Florida
In Texas none the less.
Prison has its own justice, These people should get whats coming.
The fact that none of them were charged with sexually abusing both the kids is unfucking believable!!!!
Sometimes they do that knowing the other charges would result in life to avoid the kids having to testify to prove the sexual assault.
Also if the murder conviction didn’t stick, they could go back and charge them with SA
Evil has taken over our judicial system
Yeah Exactly 😡
@@debradowner8761Yup
As a father i must commend how these detectives kept their cool. Excellent work for such a saddening event.
I saw video where a man was jailed for 23 years for attacking a police officer and here the mother gets 12 years! American justice system is stupid !!
That's a different state and you don't attack civil agents
@@Mewsette1 Well then its all ok...
@@Mewsette1and you don’t attack a child. A police officer is armed and trained. A child is a child. Innocent. Not trained. Not armed. Children usually trust their mothers and looked how that turned out. Yes, no matter the state, these types of POS should get more than someone attacking an adult who is armed and trained
Thanks to the liberal judges and liberal minded jury members.
You vote for this. Quit it.
Sells Mary Jane 25 to 50 years with maybe chance of parole. Does unspeakable inhumane disgusting things to her children, 12 years. Wow. I think this place needs a factory reset. It's too far gone.
Exactly!!!!
America sure does.
@@Schrodingers_KatDunning Kruger in full effect with you.
thank the 80s and the war on drugs. 😢
@@SpicyTexan64 because they pointed out or agreed with a proven ongoing disparity between sex crime prison time and cannabis “crimes” ?
That’s not dunning Kruger mate.
Tossing out a kneejerk ad hominem bc someone said something negative about America is pretty extra.
Shes pissing me off with all that crying because she wasn't crying when she did that to her child
I got 3 mins into it and had to stop her fake ass tears are infuriating
@SimplyWhitney_AssuredGuidance she didn't do that to her child. This is a fake confession. Just Wikipedia the case.
It's really irresponsible of this video creator to make this video. 10 mins of research, and he would have learned this is a false confession.....and not a BS Central Park 5 "false confession," an actual false confession. The prosecutor openly says as much in the trial, hence why she only got 12 years for child neglect leading to death.
@@dukedematteo1995 I swear some of these channels love women being evil (those cases get a lot of clicks), so now they're resorting to just posting fake confessions
Did you notice that moment when the male officer takes the tissue box off the table. She was clearly using the tears as an attempt for sympathy and he subtly let her know he didn't buy it for a second. Taking away her option, symbolically.
Boss move.
That guy was millimeters away from going all Bruce Wayne, putting a chair against the door and discovering a disappointing malfunction in the closed circuit camera system.
Only thing that was putting the brakes on that was the knowledge of the 4th guy.
This is why women choose the bear
Hands down the most horrific account of assault and torture that I’ve ever heard and I am a nurse I’ve heard it all. There is a special place deep in hell for this mother. No words!
I love how the female detective keeps calling the victim Victoria.. Not dehumanizing her by calling her "the body" 💔
I appreciated that, too. That poor little girl deserves to be remembered as a human being.
Why would she do that anyways?
She's also playing on the mother's emotions by continuing to use Victoria's name. It makes it harder for her to distance herself from the victim.
Who would call a dead little girl « the body » 😮 it’s awful
They use "the body" as a way to detach the suspects emotions from the case. The detective did great choosing to use her emotions Instead. Colder individuals tho, would pull away from admitting they killed a little girl. But if it's just "a body" it doesn't sound horrifying to some.
I’m suddenly feeling extremely grateful for having loving parents when I was a kid.
Exactly.
@MontagZoso Michelle is a victim in this. None of this story is being told in truth. It was a false confession. Jessica beat Michelle and she didn't know her child was murdered until the cousin was helping dismember the body. Dna was not any of them. Jessica was with someone in apartment when this took place. She never gave the person up.
@All5AJz you know this how?
@gromer-v8s my cousin testified in the trail. Sabrina.
I saw Victoria when I would go visit.
She would help push my cousin who was disabled.
I meet Jessica in war zone in Albuquerque.
If you read the case files you find out the truth on all sides... try the trail.
@All5AJzUh, yeah. Riiigght. Sorry, no. You must be a relative of Michelle or something. Give us all a break.
They were cutting her leg off, then I went in the kitchen to make dinner? WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK.???!
Right
But she only ate one taco
Her arms are missing. I feel like they may have eaten parts of her . 😢
Yeah I was stunned when she said that.
This was proven to be a false confession.
4:25 p.m.: Victoria Martens gets off the bus & goes home. Michelle and Fabian aren’t present at this time.
5:07 p.m.: Michelle & Fabian return to the apartment.
6:05 p.m.: Victoria goes to gas station with Fabian.
6:15 to 6:20 p.m.: Victoria and Fabian return to the apartment.
6:30 p.m.: Michelle & Fabian leave and go to Paradise Hills.
7:02 p.m.: Michelle & Fabian return to the apartment.
7:05 p.m.: Victoria is seen alive by neighbors.
7:06 p.m.: Michelle and Fabian leave again.
7:38 p.m.: Michelle and Fabian are near Rio Bravo Boulevard and Coors Boulevard.
7:59 p.m.: Michelle and Fabian are seen near Five Points and Bridge Boulevard.
8:47 p.m.: Michelle and Fabian arrive at the apartment.
8:48 p.m.: Eyewitnesses say Victoria’s body is seen being carried outside the apartment.[2][a]
Torrez said this proves Martens and Gonzales were not present when the murder and rape occurred.[3] Subsequently, Torrez announced nine of the charges against Fabian Gonzales including second-degree murder and criminal sexual penetration were dropped.[2] Gonzales faced a series of charges including child abuse resulting in death and tampering with evidence of which he was found guilty.[2][3] Michelle Martens is believed to have falsely confessed to actively participating in the murder.[2] Martens was sentenced to 12 years in prison.
I’m a school counselor and this is my biggest fear…I know some of my students don’t have the perfect lives but it scares me to think one of them, or more, go home to a house of terror. The one time a student came forward, the judge wouldn’t listen to anything she said and made her still visit dad. Thankfully, that man OD’d a year later so she was free from him. I’ve never cried so hard as a counselor than I did the day I went to court for her because I felt like I failed her. The courts failed this child too because those monsters deserve life behind bars.
Rest Peacefully, sweet Victoria… I’m so sorry you weren’t shown the love you deserved on earth but may you know unconditional love and protection in heaven. ❤️
The police never believed my 3 girls age 3,8,12
Wish I had a teacher like u
I'll never understand why we allow these predators to stay alive. This angers me so much!!!!!
They are gonna get out too... wow. It's always like this when they do it to kids. It tells you how corrupt our government is
Because our system is run by those that abuse kids
Me too the bastards I wouldn’t be able to interview these people without ending up in jail for murder !!!!!!!!!
I feel like all of these S.A cases are just a slap on the wrist. These people are sick especially the mother I don't understand how someone could do such a thing to their own baby 😡
Demographics. Gotta let minorities harm the average American family. Our elites hate us
I would have died protecting my child... protecting my children.
💯
Me too!!!
Damn right. A couple days after Xmas, I saved my daughter (and myself) from a house fire. My right arm is barely usable right now, but I'd do it all over again.
Plus some decent time off work.
Ps. The house was saveable, we've just lost 1 room until I recover.
This is what i thought every single parent feels once they be come parents as a kid. i was very wrong
I would die protecting my dogs
To call these individuals animals is an insult to animals..there r no words..
Straight evil
Monsters.
Creatures.
Demons.
There's other words ma'am.
💯
in animal kingdom mothers gv their life to protect kids
@@Tiggy195demons for sure vile demons
Jesus Christ. As a former police officer, I’ve seen a lot. I haven’t see anything like this.
Yeah, the confession can't be trusted. Cell phone records supposedly indicate neither Fabian nor Michelle were actually at the apartment at the time of Victoria's death, directly contradicting this horrific confession. Do a web search to learn the rest of the story.
Let’s take a moment to appreciate our loving and protective parents
@@UnaNerea this makes me a little more forgiving towards my bat shyte crazy mother, she was an angel compared to this one.
@@samanthabenavides4319mine too
And appreciate those of us who won’t hurt children nor bring more into this wicked world.
@CarmenBelcher appreciate people who won't bring children into the world?
Close but definitely no cigar, compared to these parents apparently mine weren't so horrible
Im a 44 year old man. Ive watched a million of these videos. I never cry.
I cried this entire video. Those poor children.
Yeah and the mom gets out next year
I am shocked. This is the most disturbing things I’ve heard. And I can from watching the Al McLean story. I didn’t think anything could top that. Meth is one of the most effed up drugs on this planet. Speechless 😶
So unbelievably sad
Think it's high on the list of the worst cases I have ever heard. Utterly heartbreaking for both children.
12 years for that beech does not cut it. That's infuriating.
@@wesleydeer889Makes me sick.
12 years? 12 fucking years only? I hate this place!
The Judge should get his! This is so wrong
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 ME 2!!!!
It felt longer then 12 years watching this horrendous crap. How the actual f. So disgusting. I hate it as well
The missing perp is prob the judge
@ doxpin7432
Exactly 👍
You can get more than 12yrs for punching a cop. Our system sucks so bad Hearing the crimes are so appalling until heard the punishment they received on freaking believable. I sure hope jailhouse justice pre-fails for those poor children.
I’m a man in my 30’s and I never get upset, but this right here, I’m crying for these kids. This breaks my heart into tiny pieces. Rest in peace little girl, you’ll never be forgotten.
Men still have emotions.
@bparkhill9572 of course they do. Did you not know that they are also humans?
I feel like vomiting, and my heart aches. How is it possible for someone to hold a job while clearly appearing to have a mental illness, and what kind of mental illness could this be, according to psychologists?
Why don’t we require permits or certificates before having children? After six to twelve thousand years of human civilization, why do we still reproduce without any rules or regulations, like wild animals?
Meanwhile, people like Trump and Elon Musk encourage others to have more children.
Beyond frustrating to think of the feelings they went through🤬🤬
I am glad that you feel this way it means you care and it doesn’t matter how old you are this one will hurt and anger real men and women! Those babies deserved so much more! The fact that that poor excuse for a mother tried to blame the biological father of hurting his son and Victoria really angered me! I’m glad the detectives seen right through her crap! ❤
The mom actually deserved the heaviest sentence her job was to protect her children and not only did she not protect them she handed them off to sick monsters to have their way with them and WATCHED. These child abuse cases are getting worse and more frequent we need to do something to protect these children from their own parents 😔 the devil is real and he is alive in these monsters.
I agree I'm livid at such vile acts towards kids 😢
Absolutely agree 100%
You are right on everything!!
That's the worst part about it though. HOW can children EVER be safe from their own evil parents? Good parents can protect their children, but any evil person can have a child 💔 The damage has to already been done to even SAVE a child. It's devastating
Even someone hated Victoria they would treat her better than this
“The fact that you’re shocked that you’re going to jail is beyond me” 😮💨👏🏼
Tremendous work to these detectives!
I really think her narcissism made her think she pulled it off and deflected all the blame 🙄🙄
appears to be tremendous work, however, would you believe that the entire confession was later determined to be all lies?
That is what the Bernalillo County District Attorney, Raúl Torrez later determined using a time line.
Supposedly the woman you just watched confess to this murder/r@pe actually had called the police 5 times to report the ongoing abuse.
In the months that followed, cell phone records and eyewitness accounts established that Ms. Martens was not home when her daughter died and therefore could not have participated in or witnessed Victoria's s3xual assault and subsequent murder.
@@burtreynolds3143 what !!??
@@burtreynolds3143 BS
I’ve been listening to like 10 true crime cases a day for the past 3 years and this is the worst I’ve ever heard. Never did I ever think I’d have to turn a case off.
How the heck were they not charged with capital murder? They should all be locked up without any chance of ever being released. The mother got 12 years!? What a disgrace.
I am sure that government such as social worker etc was involved, they always neglected the situations😢
I hope she received some justice at the hands of mothers among the prisoners.
@@jjwatcher not just mothers, at times especially not the mothers!
Because there is no justice, this things will continue to happen
Because it was proven that this was a false confession, and neither the mother or boyfriend were even home when the murder happened
“I was so sick to my stomach ..I only ate one taco 🌮”💀💀💀
Wow Just wow.
20:48 omg 😟 what a sociopath
I just can not comprehend this at all. Make me so sick to my stomach. Just pure evil.
Right!
I spotted that too, like what a pathetic way to try and garner sympathy "Poor me, I could only eat one taco"
that was crazy 😅.... I- I am speechless
It’s amazing that ANYONE can have children but you need a license to fish….WOW!!!!!
EXACTLY.
It's because people can't be stopped from doing the nasty but they can be stopped from catching 100s of fish a day a dozen people do it then no more fish
So so true...
No Sh$*.
That's an amazing way of illustrating things. Wow. That makes it really sound absurd. And for good reason. Because it is.
Honestly, I couldn't be a cop. Because I'd probably be in prison after encountering individuals like these.
I am a 51-year-old man. I have seen some pretty effed up crime videos, but nothing has ever broke me the way this video broke me. I’m Sitting here in tears, my heart is completely broken for these poor children.
Me too, I feel so sick but I’m so happy Victoria is in heaven now 😭
Supposedly this was a “False confession”??? Idk for sure but a few people are commenting on other post that it was…….I don’t believe that “everything” she said was a lie……there had
To be some truth to all that!! Smh….🤦🏻♀️
So you silence when they say “meth” but everything else, ( explicit details of sexual assault and dismemberment = totally fine)?? I don’t get it.🙄
demons, demons
@@jcutler2011 Yes!! Came here to say that. I'm a mother and there's no way that I can imagine myself in her shoes. That poor little girl.. May she rest in peace . I hope her brother is ok and is getting therapy for his trauma. I hope and pray he has a long, good life from here on out.
These people have absolutely no soul
They aren’t even human
I’d say demon passion is on the table 😳😳😳
Demons
No, they are humans, this is what humans do to each other, we can't blame demons or gods on this sort of thing it is all us.
This case makes me so angry. After this detailed confession, the DA turned around & said 'oh, most of that stuff's actually not even true' & let her plead out to 'neglect resulting in death' with a measly 12yr sentence after she already had 6yrs behind her. Sickening
I can't fathom how desensitised a judge must be to aware this woman a mere 12 years!
I hope they give her prison justice since she never gets out
Truly sadistic EVIL
A detailed FALSE confession
But her confession was proven false. It was proven that the mother and her boyfriend were not in the house at the time of the SA and murder.
This is no click bait. This is truly a horrifying story beyond belief. Poor girl... 😢 I'm a 41 year old man, and this just put tears in my eyes.
This is a false confession. The detectives manipulated a mentally ill, traumatised and highly suggestive person into giving them this confession. The prosecutor Torres made a timeline, where there’s cctv footage of her and fabian not even being at the house at the time of the murder. It’s on wikipedia and multiple articles. Thats why she only got 12 years for neglect and not murder.
More worried about drugs than a dismembered child? That's a new level of fuckedupness.
That's because charges for drugs are more harsh than for child abuse!!
@Bettinasisrg Another level right?
She wasn't worried about drugs she just needed an excuse for not calling the police besides "I participated". The drugs were also a convenient excuse for her death as well. She has reached top tier fuckedupness. There are no more levels beyond her.
you fell for her lies. She wasn't afraid of being caught with drugs. That was part of her lie before she knew they knew about her orchestrating all of the abuse.
💯‼️😡
She's only crying for herself not that precious little girl.
The tears are not real at all. They are fake and the detectives deserve a medal for being capable of listening to her insincere sniveling without resorting to violence. Hats off.
@angelicab5878 This is a fake confession. None of this happened.
Look into it. This is an infamous false confession now. The detectives have been criticised for their sick imaginations! They suggested & she agreed because she’s extremely vulnerable!
@suzimonkey345 It would have taken the video creator 10 mins to research the case and find out everything this woman said was BS. The woman wasn't at the apt when her daughter was murdered, and she never let men have seggs with the daughter.
She still really screwed up by having these ex con drug addicts around and it cost her daughter her life.
And because she's coming down off all that METHAMPHETAMINE they were doing. Makes ppl super emotional when coming down. Meth makes MOST people EVIL.
You’re fucked anytime a detective says “I don’t care about the marijuana”
lol... interesting point
💯 !
even more fucked when they say they dont care about the meth
The female detective has a strong stomach being able to fake compassion and hold this murderer's hand in order to make her talk. That I could never do.
I cannot believe the mother only got 12 years! Unbelievable! RIP Victoria
Disgusting. They get more time for selling weed. Smh
I couldn't watch the whole thing but reading this comment made me sick! 12 years. That poor baby didn't even get to live 12 years. F her man!!! Special place in hell!
Death penalty, the crime was horrible! JUSTICE WAS DENIED FOR VICTORIA SHAME THE LAW.
It's disgusting to think the mother could walk freely in this world. No justice at all.
It’s because this was a false confession for some reason. the mother was very low IQ. She and the boyfriend weren’t even there.
This happened in Albuquerque, NM. Almost nine years have gone by and till this day, I think about Victoria often. What a beautiful girl she is. Rest in peace, Beautiful Angel.
♥️
I'm still wondering who that unknown male DNA belongs to. It smells of cover up and I want to know who they are covering for!
So the mother is getting realeased soon? WTF!
@@sykoteddysadly yes!
@@stormimiller2923 the unknown stranger I believe is made up
Im in NM too. So disgusted with our Justice system.
As a 30 year true crime vet...this is the most disturbing case I've encounterredd.
yes, same here, even before the Net,i would consume book and mag subscription, i thought id seen it all. yet this is a whole new level of horror.
You have plenty more to watch then
This is awful.
It’s actually demonic
This is the one that disturbed me the most. It kept me from sleeping at night. Horrifying!
Victoria died in excruciating pain her heart and soul let go of her body to suffer no more.May her this little girl finds comfort peace and love with our Lord and God 🙏
she is with God healing now, away from these monsters.. prayed for her and saw God is embracing/cuddling her now
You are one special person to be able to sit there and hold a monsters hand and coddle her just so you could find out the horrific truth...Bless that poor sweet little girl, the Detectives as well.
i bet that female detective cried hard after this,and hugged her loved ones al the more tighter.
It’s how she got the most information and therefore the truth and most justice for Victoria. All she was thinking about was Victoria. To lie to this monster and play a part to get that truth is all she was thinking about.
@@liminal-cc3go Yep!
I also loved the way the male detective kept removing the box of tissues off the table. Reminds me of an interrogation where they just doled out a couple of sheets of toilet paper to someone who was false sobbing. A small revenge, but telling!
@@sheilaboston7051 HAHA yes!
I am 42 years old with 3 of my own children, and I would lay my own life down for not only my babies, but for ANY child! I seriously cannot wrap my mind around how people like this monster even exist! It makes me want to vomit to hear that this happened and does happen! It isn’t human, it’s monstrous! 🥺
I can agree with giving my life for my children and my grandchildren - but strange children?!
Sorry, no - I don‘t want my own family to suffer from missing me….
I am absolutely with you and everything you just said I have two children and the only way something like that would happen to them and see if I was dead! In other words, you will have to kill me before you hurt my children in any way!
@Did you know that there are people who actually put their own lives on the line everyday for not just children, but others in general? They’re called policemen, firefighters, and soldiers.
@@IZaubermausI
It's one thing to not want to go to that extent but to actually admit it like it's a flex?
If tomorrow your family member faces this situation when you aren't around, but a 'STRANGER' saves them..... would you go and scold them cuz they weren't caring about their own families??
Hypocrite world.
@@IZaubermausIi don’t want kids and actually find them annoying. But i know dam well if i was her i would do anything i could to save an innocent human, disgusting
. i would never live with myself if i didn’t try. she could have grabbed something and got them off her. gross
detective is so talented. the way she kept saying “victoria…your BABY GIRL” & “this is your baby girl victoria we are talking about here” very skilled interrogation technique!
Not to be mean cause she did really well overall but this beast of a mother doesnt care one bit about her children. Its sickening how vile and evil some "people" can be.
@@michaelboerlage7988getting her to lie is just as important if not more so then telling the truth in a situation like this. Not about her caring it’s about sending signals subconsciously and allowing them to react.
This turned out to be a false confession
She never let Victoria’s name get lost or missed or forgotten.
This was amazing. Making sure this awful human could not ignore that it was her child.
“Was he r@ping your son?”
“Not really, no”
WTF 🤬 😮😮😮 🤬 what kind of MOTHER allows her children to be sexually abused by anyone!!?? This is absolutely treacherous! I cannot listen to this any longer! I’m literally physically ill hearing this! And then seeing photos of this beautiful innocent little girl! Just thinking of what she endured during all those years of her life! God love her little heart!! How could her own mother that carried her in her womb for nine months, felt her tiny little kicks, her little hiccups, gave births to her! Held her in her arms as a brand new human being! Helped create this precious new little life, allow a monster, a DEVIL, to put his grimy ass hands and body parts on her and r@pe her!!!??? I’m disgusted to no end! This is absolutely the WORST tragedy I’ve ever heard! Not only did this beautiful little girl have to endure such disgusting pain, but it was also done either with her own MOTHER in the same damn room! OR by her mother’s own hands! I know she’s at peace now and not suffering anymore! Nothing or no one can harm her ever again! She’s safe from all harm in the Hands of our Dear Lord in Heaven! ❤❤❤
The social engineering to its glory
Demonic possession doesn’t care what kind of life a person has they just need your body to commit the act
The confession can't be trusted, as there is strong evidence neither Michelle nor Fabian were actually in the apartment at the time of Victoria's death. I was surprised at what a web search turned up.
12 years only!!??? Even the judge deserves to be locked up .
Insane
That's because some get their karma in hell.
@bubbalew1 no they needed Instant Karma not stay alive and get out and cause the same trauma to other children 131
Because this interogation was all lies. What happened is aweful, but she was not there when the child was killed. Why she would make this up, I have no idea, but all you have to do is look the case up.
But this is why women choose the bear.
12 freaking years!?! She had s@x with him after he did that to her daughter!? I cannot even comprehend what this woman allowed to happen.
Victoria, I pray that you are filled with the joy and peace of heaven. ❤
Bunch of peds handing down these sentences.
And they won't ever stop her from having more kids..I mean making more victims.
Wow 😢!!!
@@Loralanthalas and she made dinner as they cut up her daughter! 12 years. Unbelievable.
The US treat women as children, why do you think they act so immature on social media today. Its all white american women. And its from both blue and red states. The women here in my country are polite and kind, you wont find another country where so many have these type of attitudes
This is 100% the worst thing I have ever heard on RUclips. I cannot understand how people can do these horrible things to children. I hope they all suffer terribly for a very long time. My God, I cannot believe this is real.
For me, Timothy Ferguson's story is the worst because his agony lasted 7 months.
His repulsive, demonic egg donor is responsible for having starved and tortured him.
She'll never get out of prison thankfully, Judge Kacel put her away forever.
I am with you, hoping this isn’t real. Beyond horrible! Mother’s love is the strongest, making Tiger Moms and Bear Moms. How could she, how could she be the instigator and mother at the same time?! I wish I had not seen this 🤮🤮🤮
@@abelis644Stephen Hill... His parents chained him to the cabinets with Chain ran through a pipe. They starved him to death because , he was"sneaking food in the night" then when his fat ass mama was imprisoned in Galveston Texas she had the nerve to complain that the portions of the meals the (same ones they give everybody) weren't enough for her.
It’s real and it happens everyday. Until we as a collective species do something about it, it will keep happening over and over and over again. Perhaps when all of humanity unites in anger and finally does something, maybe it will stop. This has been happening for 400 years and won’t stop until you decide to act.
It isn't real, this is a false confession. The woman was highly suggestible and just said what the police wanted
Christ, that was a hard watch. What a monster of a mother. 12 years is just a joke of a sentence compared to what horrors she put her kids through.
agreed... i think that's enough internet for today x
The lady who did this interrogation was freaking amazing! I love how she struck when she needed to! Amazing work
😢 Look into it. This is an infamous false confession now. The detectives have been criticised for their sick imaginations! They suggested & she agreed because she’s extremely vulnerable!
@@suzimonkey345really ?
This case is why women choose the bear
The fact that you’re surprised you’re going to jail is beyond me
Welp usual suspects
How did they NOT all get 100 years??
New Mexico is notorious for light sentences. It sucks.
The judge was probably one of her punters who visited her home. Unknown DNA could be his
The judge must be evil. Can’t use stupid as an excuse. No other explanation makes any sense.
Wtf why would you even say some shit like that? @@ianallen2
UNITED SATANIC ABOMINATIONS
One gets the impression that Americans think that committing crimes is an Olympic sport. How peaceful and beautiful the world would be without the USA. Why are you like that?
Ew I couldn’t do this job. Having to sit there and baby her, tell her she’s a good mom, tell her it’s not her fault. Bro I couldn’t do that.
Nobody in this case received life in prison? I do not comprehend.
Right... this little girl needs justice!! This is beyond ridiculous that they got anything less than the death penalty
New Mexico is a liberal state..that's why...this was in Albuquerque.
@@rocioarrieta8521 Lol you should probably get out of the cave every once and a while
You people know Jack about the law apparently. They lead her on a ton in this confession and she just keeps feeding them more of what she thinks they want.
This video is very one sided and doesn't take into account her mental state, her IQ, etc. She should have a lawyer in there clearly. Like everyone
@wmurch3 maybe So, but she watched her child bring raped and murdered.. what mental state can make you do that?! Go on, enlighten me?
As a mom this is sickening and heartbreaking on so many levels. I could never sit back and watch someone harm one of my kids. I would go insane and not be able to hold back taking justice into my own hands. These criminals deserve to never see the light of day again.
This didn't happen, if you google this you'll see it's a false confession
@@kidstuff44555 BS! You Google it and you'll see that she as sentenced to 12 yrs in prison for this. And she used Plenty of Fish to find the men to SA her.
What do you mean it's a false confession? @@kidstuff44555
@kidstuff44555 so what happened ?
@@hayamousa5085 Because detectives botched this case by relying on this manipulated confession, the case was never solved. Neither the mother interviewed here, nor her boyfriend, were at home during the murder. An unknown man's DNA was found on the girl. The boyfriend's sister was at home and probably knows more than she's telling (which is why she recieved the longest sentence). There is no evidence that the mother ever pimped her daughter out for sex, in fact POF allowed police to trawl her accounts and nothing was found.
12 years????? The Judicial System IS SCREWED UP!!!! That is not justice for VICTORIA!!!! This is the most disgusting true crime case I have ever watched I was speechless and in shock -- Rest In Peace Angel
Better than what she would get here in the UK, she’d probably get 3 yrs our legal sentencing is a joke
I hope she meet someone real moms in prison
Judge most likely has same interests as those jailed!
Whoever posted this video didn’t do the research because this was proven to be a false confession as crazy as that sounds. The mother and boyfriend weren’t even home when any of this happened.
I agree! This is the most horrific thing I've ever heard. It's more than disgustingly disturbing! That poor innocent child! RIP VICTORIA 💔
Why did I watch this? I don’t think I’ll ever get it out of my brain. This is the most horrific thing I’ve ever watched. It shouldn’t even be on RUclips.
My grandma always told me to not fear the dead, it’s always the ones who are alive you must be scared of.
She was correct.
My Father said the same thing
Why would you fear dead people?
My daughters get scared of the dark or so called monsters and I’ve repeated it so many times that now I always say the real monsters are and they finish by saying the bad people that are walking on this earth. I talk to them about SA and always tell them it doesn’t discriminate and it can be anyone. Even someone you love. If they want to keep a secret from mommy that’s a first sign and you need to tell me immediately because no matter what they say even if they say they can hurt me they’re lying. I’m not scared and they can’t. They can’t sleep over anywhere and I always ask them about school and other situations to remind them always I have their back.
MY MOM SAID THAT TOO!!!!!
💯
"The fact that you're shocked is beyond me", when the male officer says this it was amazing 😂
She’s literally trying to protect all these predators, something she didn’t even do for her children. Sickening 🤮
Welp. Usual suspects for these kinda crimes
@@OrlandoJohnson-z2k what, like the pakistani muslims in the uk?
@@OrlandoJohnson-z2kfacts!
@imobjectivelybalancedonTHEball why are you flipping this? 😂
@@therealfatou what am i flipping? in the uk they're the usual suspects, which you seem to find amusing, are you also enabling, & protecting predators?
That female detective is spot on! Wow
Why 12 years? Was judge a predator too?
Most of the time they are. Thats why they give Sex Offenders and pedophiles little time in jail.
There’s no other explanation. No normal person could possibly only give 12 years.
Undoubtedly
A lot of them are, yes. When you have a country that is run and controlled by a small elite group that have physical ownership of more than 80% of the money…..you’re going to have pedophile judges. Untouchables. Other countries have laws in place to keep things from turning into a dictatorship. America doesn’t.
If you want to see why you can google everything about this case.
I know someone who just got out a man. A biker who served 28 years for marijuana let that sink in.....
The system is fcked up
Well they freely state "After you guys cut the arms off" but then bleep out the sound and caption for mar***ana so YT doesn't strike the vid. Some crazy sentencing. Some crazy censorship. Some crazy world!
Fk the system
Right what the actual fuck
That's so sad. Our system is insane.
10 years old :( The saddest part is knowing a kid of that age knows what loves is, knows what hate is, knows what pain is, knows what betrayal is! She would have been thinking, if not asking "Mum please help me, Stop them please!". This just makes me so sick to my stomach. That poor little girl, I hope the poor little baby didn't have to suffer with this stuff for long but unfortunately it sounds like that little girl endured this kind of sick stuff her whole life! :( RIP Victoria, you were done so wrong in such a short amount of life. Terror is what she lived.
This was proven to be a false confession.
4:25 p.m.: Victoria Martens gets off the bus & goes home. Michelle and Fabian aren’t present at this time.
5:07 p.m.: Michelle & Fabian return to the apartment.
6:05 p.m.: Victoria goes to gas station with Fabian.
6:15 to 6:20 p.m.: Victoria and Fabian return to the apartment.
6:30 p.m.: Michelle & Fabian leave and go to Paradise Hills.
7:02 p.m.: Michelle & Fabian return to the apartment.
7:05 p.m.: Victoria is seen alive by neighbors.
7:06 p.m.: Michelle and Fabian leave again.
7:38 p.m.: Michelle and Fabian are near Rio Bravo Boulevard and Coors Boulevard.
7:59 p.m.: Michelle and Fabian are seen near Five Points and Bridge Boulevard.
8:47 p.m.: Michelle and Fabian arrive at the apartment.
8:48 p.m.: Eyewitnesses say Victoria’s body is seen being carried outside the apartment.[2][a]
Torrez said this proves Martens and Gonzales were not present when the murder and rape occurred.[3] Subsequently, Torrez announced nine of the charges against Fabian Gonzales including second-degree murder and criminal sexual penetration were dropped.[2] Gonzales faced a series of charges including child abuse resulting in death and tampering with evidence of which he was found guilty.[2][3] Michelle Martens is believed to have falsely confessed to actively participating in the murder.[2] Martens was sentenced to 12 years in prison.
@@MsBabyKayHow do you have all this knowledge? Did you tell the police? Where you there?
I cant even imagine what that little angel went thru😢 betrayed & let down by EVERYONE💔
@ Could you send a link to where you got all that info please?
@ do I have to be in the twin towers on 9/11 to know it happened? Jesus Christ
1 million years no parole would have been fair
Only if she actually lives through the whole 1mil. Years. If she dies before then justice would still have been stabbed in the back.
Justicia is blind, and apparently in america, she has he priorities backwards.
Give me 5 minutes in a room without windows with these 3 monsters.
I would want 20. 5 minutes just isn't enough time.
On the real....just sad and sick😢
I was thinking the same thing
Use protection.
Five minutes isn't enough my friend.
As a former police officer and combat veteran, this actually shook me. I’ve seen the worst of the worst but this is new levels of actual depravity.
Not only did she leave her kids with monsters, she WAS the monster and invited other monsters to enact some truly vile shit on those poor kids.
I'm hugging my daughter a little tighter tonight. God bless
and she was watching :(
Where’s the son?
This "mother" should have received life with no parole and she certainly should not be allowed to have any more kids.
Breeder more like
@@sutty85 egg donor.
She didn't actually do these things, it was all made up
Not mother, Momster
I'm thinking about how her son must feel knowing that she only is getting 12 years jail for standing by while his sister was killed and knowing she encouraged all this including drugging and having him assaulted too. This is so unfair to him too.
This is why kids don’t report it ! They kno the system will put them back in the home !!!!
I'm in tears now, as a mother of a 10 year old little boy, who is my entire life. I just cant fathom these sickening horrific acts. I honestly never knew that people who are capable of all this actually exist. I think this is thee worst crime/crimes I've ever heard, ever.
I remember when my son was around 7 or 8, and the movie "Adam" was on. It was about a little boy who was abducted and worse. I could not watch that movie, I always said I would be in prison if someone hurt my child
The confession can't be trusted. It's possible Michelle didn't do most of the horrific things she admitted to, that Michelle was telling the interrogator what Michelle thought the interrogator wanted to hear. Do a web search, you'll find some interesting allegations of police and prosecutor mishandling of this case.
I am fighting with my sister for my dog.she is not allowing him to go for walk.
@@KrishDogVlog24 If that is true, it is SAD!!!!! I LOVED my little buddy, his walk around town was the highlight of his day. Dogs deserve someone who will LOVE them and do MORE than just the minimum
I threw up listening to this. I'm not an emotional person but I completely broke down and sobbed for a good 20 minutes. It doesn't get any worse than this. I can't find the words right now. May her soul Rest in Peace 🙏🙏
I didn’t see your post & said basically same thing. I threw up. I cried & felt so distraught & disgusted 😢
Ohh but it does get worse than this sadly. Much worse.
Yep. I literally threw up in my mouth.
This disgust me how there are people going to prison longer then 12 years for way less of a crime than what this mother has done to her children. This should have gotten life without parole or dealth sentences
This should have been a DP case.. if you take someone’s life, you should forfeit your own…
I don’t want to feed these monsters,while that baby was terrorized by her mother and her friends…and had her future violently taken away..
I agree the law sucks, she should never be released.
I KNOW! It’s insane!
I used to be against the death sentence but not any more
Mom was hungry for tacos within hours of her 10 year old girls death and dismemberment. Some of us lose weight from grief because we can't think about eating. Not her.
It is unfathomable to think that a woman who gave birth to Victoria(she is NOT a mother) who watch all of the evil crimes and eat immediately afterward! Every day stresses suppress my appetite, I cannot imagine a horrendous event like that! I would never allow anyone to harm any of my children, they would have to end my life too! Inconceivable to me! May that beautiful child RIP❤️🩹🙏🏼
When my mom passed away, I became nearly dystrophic. This woman is not a mother, this woman is a devil in disguise
And had sex. I've never heard of anything like this
Hey, hey, she was so upset, she couldn't even eat her 2nd taco!
The mother should never be released
I hope there are people waiting for her when shes released. I hope she never feels safe ever again. None of them. This is so disgusting. What monsters
There's people in there that were definitely waiting on her. And her 12 years are going to be hell. People like her have no peace in prison.
I'd be very surprised to find out that the two who SA'd Victoria made it out of jail alive. Prisoners have a special place they like to send pedobears and it's usually a one way ticket and painful the whole trip. Add the rest of what these people did onto that and I have to upgrade this to amazed if they make it out alive.
Amen,
They’ll be perfectly fine because they’ll end up getting a new identities and relocated so that they’re not in any danger
The mother and the dude looked like they got a piece of karma
It's a darn good thing that the lady detective became a cop and not a con because she's good. She's REALLY good at her job. SHE HELD HER HAND and was so good at being sympathetic even I believed her for a minute. I'm impressed by how good she is
I would not have been able to hide my true emotion and energy, no matter what facial expression I wore or what I could force my tone of voice to sound like.
100% No way I could touch that pos without flinching.
The lady cop must've sanitized her hands BIG TIME after that.
Yes we need more of her in our states
Except she manipulated this lady into a false confession, and probably ruined their chances at finding the real culprit
As a survivor of extreme abuse I really wish true crime would stop saying "You're better off dead than a victim." because that's just so hurtful.
Amen. Amen amen!! What a terrible thing to say! I dont believe that for every person, or any person!! Not for one second!! We will all be dead eventually! She deserved to decide that for herself- if she wanted to. ❤️
Sending YOU lots of love and goodvibes *jiggle jiggle* !!
So glad youre with us ❤️
That's because those people turn out messed up, and sometimes they hurt other people and create more victims. The dead do not share the problems of the living.
I agree! I am truly truly sorry about what happened to you. I'm sure that's probably the last thing you wanna hear but please know if you don't know those people in monsters I came to the people that mess with kids.
Jiggle jiggle?@@laurasalo6160
Awful & horrendous. Incomprehensible as a mother …
There should be no plea deal... For any of these despicable monsters.
Absolutely. And in this case they had a full confession and no plea deal was needed!
Theyre always doing plea deals now, its awful.
Theyre always doing plea deals now, its awful.
This is the worst case I've listened to. Seeing that guy with a black eye gave me hope that criminals in jail will take care of him.
Hopefully, all 3 of them get prison justice.
He’s already out of jail
OMG speechless, this women is worse than evil, she makes serial killers look tame
Plea deal!!!? What is wrong with our country!?
The video just gets worse and worse the more you watch it. What a terrifying world we live in.
My heterosexuality gets worse and worse with each impure thought.
@@pvsweetypiedo you take medication or smth?? I think you forgot to take it today you probably should it’s not good for you to miss a dose.
@@pvsweetypie that makes no sense.
@@pvsweetypiemeaning you gay now cause of these type women… pick different smh
I LITERALLY feel so sick I might actually vomit!! I mean this is thee most shocking interrogation I ever seen recently…the details she is giving while trying to fake cry is sooo disturbing!! Just got a chill up my spine!
Agree with you 💯
I had finished eating . While relaxing started watching my stomach is 🤢 I’m trying EVERYTHING TO STOP FROM THROWING UP from hearing this sick monster. She’s no mother
@@karlagarcia1851 This was proven to be a false confession.
4:25 p.m.: Victoria Martens gets off the bus & goes home. Michelle and Fabian aren’t present at this time.
5:07 p.m.: Michelle & Fabian return to the apartment.
6:05 p.m.: Victoria goes to gas station with Fabian.
6:15 to 6:20 p.m.: Victoria and Fabian return to the apartment.
6:30 p.m.: Michelle & Fabian leave and go to Paradise Hills.
7:02 p.m.: Michelle & Fabian return to the apartment.
7:05 p.m.: Victoria is seen alive by neighbors.
7:06 p.m.: Michelle and Fabian leave again.
7:38 p.m.: Michelle and Fabian are near Rio Bravo Boulevard and Coors Boulevard.
7:59 p.m.: Michelle and Fabian are seen near Five Points and Bridge Boulevard.
8:47 p.m.: Michelle and Fabian arrive at the apartment.
8:48 p.m.: Eyewitnesses say Victoria’s body is seen being carried outside the apartment.[2][a]
Torrez said this proves Martens and Gonzales were not present when the murder and rape occurred.[3] Subsequently, Torrez announced nine of the charges against Fabian Gonzales including second-degree murder and criminal sexual penetration were dropped.[2] Gonzales faced a series of charges including child abuse resulting in death and tampering with evidence of which he was found guilty.[2][3] Michelle Martens is believed to have falsely confessed to actively participating in the murder.[2] Martens was sentenced to 12 years in prison.
@@MsBabyKayI don't believe your timeline.
@ belief is not necessary and it’s not my timeline. I actually looked up the case. You don’t find it strange a court of law with a huge detailed confession only led to 12 years? Use some critical thinking.
As someone who’s been interested in psychology and true crime for the last 25 years, I’ve learned about some deeply disturbing crimes and the darkest depths of human depravity. This case is, by far, one of the worst that I have ever encountered.. There are people who’ve survived unimaginable abuse and trauma and yet they would never dream of inflicting such pain and suffering upon another human being. Then you have creatures like this “woman” and her cohorts…demons in skin suits. Evil walks among us.
I believe the bigger evil is the justice system that sentences her to 12 years only....
So why they cut of her arms?? 😢
You are correct. Demons are indeed real.
It definitely feels like evil…why so much hate towards a child?!?
Detective deserves a raise she was so calm with the monster mom
Mum was pimping her kids out b4 fabian came on scene 😢
I believe that too
@@joharland5332 and when asked if she was receiving money for this by the female detective, her response was no. I don't believe her; in fact, nothing she said in the whole interrogation was believable.
What in the hell am I listening to? This is absolutely savage. How do people even get this deranged? Pure evil is what this actually is…
I agree! And how do these monsters find each other? It’s group evil… it’s so horrific it’s hard to even comprehend. Three adults and they all participated??? Even the mother of the child! My brain just won’t accept it let alone process it.
@@leeprimeau7912”Like attracts Like”
To know that little girl died while being r*ped knowing her mother participated. I’m enraged!!!!🤬
I don't understand how she doesn't get a life sentence over child sex crimes!
What level of acting must you learn as a detective to deal with this filthy, despicable woman. I cant believe she did this to her daughter and then this coverup. Who to trust now? What kind of world is this?
“I only ate one taco.”
This woman cannot be for real. It’s somehow beyond evil.
I’m rarely rattled or shocked by anything these days but I guess it still happens.
@@fetedesneiges6678 it's almost like she wants to garner sympathy or seem less terrible by saying she only ate one. I thought that was beyond reason until she said she slept with him afterwards.
How she was eating during the investigation made me sick to my stomach, especially her “only one taco” comment 😮
Totally. But how do three people with those abominable traits find each other?
"If you cut up my kid, I'll cook dinner!"
Not anything I hear in the bars or beyond in my world.
@@sobegirl411right, I typically only eat 1 taco on a regular day... there's no chance in hell I'd be able to eat right after. Probably wouldn't be able to hours or even days later either. UNLESS I was guilty!
@@Ams_5590 I remember being about to eat a favourite meal when I heard that I loved one was terminally ill...obviously I couldn't eat and it took years before I could eat that particular meal again...
Some people are so evil they don't belong amongst others. Unbelievable, and a mother to boot. RIP Victoria, you deserved a better mother.
That’s not a mother that’s a MONSTER. unfortunately, she was able to breed.
This was a false confession. Michelle was a crack head and was making stuff up. I can't believe this channel posted this for click bate. The cousing and boyfriend killed the little girl while the mom was not home. She was literally making everything up.
I absolutely AGREE!!!!!! 💯