Testing Rebound on Three Cheap Anvils
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- In this video, Roy does an anvil rebound test on three cheap anvils (two cast iron anvil, a cast steel anvil) and an antique forged anvil.
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COMMENT: Have you tried an anvil rebound test on your shop anvil? What do you use as a rebound tester? Or perhaps done a rebounding hammer test? What ways of checking anvil hardness do you like to do?
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I bought the acciao? anvil for under $2 a pound after watching your videos and others. Cleaned it up and used it this weekend for the first time. It is SO MUCH BETTER than RR track I used before. I still want an antique but I can see this thing lasting me for a long time and for the price, it is way better than sitting back waiting to find the antique anvil you think you need.
I love how the bb just dies in like 3 or 4 bounces on the HF and it bounces all day on the Colonial.
I found the ebay anvil a few days ago. Thank You for doing all the testing to show that it is well worth every penny.
Great info, thanks for sharing. The real world testing on these beginner anvils is really helpful! I'd be curious to see a rebound test on the railroad track.
Breaking myths that’s awesome and it makes sense that the rebound doesn’t make the hammer rebound because you’re hitting hot iron, it’s absorbing all of the energy,great work Roy , but I still want one of those 66lb double horn anvils because I have reach issues with the 150lb hays budden that I have so you just need to give me one because as I’ve told you probably 6 times in the past. I work nights and have never been able to catch one of your live streams in the last three or four years and, but I know that’s how it works so anyways great video as usual but I liked your measuring implement that was cool. Have a good one and God bless
The reason for the rebound test is to measure the anvils ability to return the hammer. A dead anvil absorbs the hammers inertia making the Smith do all the work in raising it for the next blow. High rebound is a good thing. Also, cheap anvils may not be uniformly hard over whole face. A better way to test would be to do 3 drops near each corner and 3 in the center.
K K , how much time have you spent behind an anvil? I’ve been doing it for 25 years using good and poor anvils. It isn’t baloney. But you are entitled to your opinion so I won’t argue with you.
Ok, prove to us with simple physics that all of the momentum of the hammer is absorbed by the hot metal. Please account for friction between the hammer and the hot metal, the gradual cooling of the hot metal, and the effect of work hardening once the metal drops below the recrystallization temperature. No baloney, now.
K K that was not “proof with simple physics”, that was just opinion. You have been listening to the blowhards on iForgeiron.
K K could you flatten hot metal with just the hammer? No you need an anvil. And simple physics says that for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. When you strike the iron, it strikes the anvil with a force of the hammer, minus the energy that went into the iron. The energy of the iron hitting the anvil is returned to the iron, minus any energy absorbed by the iron, and back to the hammer. The amount of energy returned is much less than the energy absorbed by the iron but it is noticeable if you move from a good hard anvil to a POS cast iron anvil.
K K believe what ever you like. Newtonian mechanics tell the true story.
Another anvil or ASO you should test, a big old block of steel from a scrap yard maybe and see how that compares?
i need to check the rebound on my peter wright. I love it either way. My first anvil and ill always keep it. thanks for testing these
I solved the prenunciation of Acciaio by chisling the word off of the anvil,thank goodness the one I got was black not blue.Still like it over a year later.I call it a small german pattern anvil now ,not cheap amazon,ha just saying.Gotta love the measuring device you enginered there .
Glad to hear you've had one s year.
How do you think it's doing.
Gave holding up?
Satisfied with performance vs $$ spent?
🙏 Blessings abundant
Crawford out ⚒️🧙♂️
@@dragonstonegemironworkscra4740 its holding up well.
@@adampablodayc very nice good to know. Actually think I'm going to get one for the grand son in the fall. Thanks for the info
fast forward to 14:30 to skip the rabbiting on.
The sound difference is amazing!
im saving up to get the 66lb anvil its great cant beat it for $119 all i need. then will upgrade to the 110lb
One seller on Amazon has it for $119.99with a $10 off coupon check off right now. So $109.99 plus whatever tax your state charges. I just ordered and it was $115.98 shipped. It doesn’t ship from Amazon but it is free shipping.
@@tinymission7821 dam not bad good price for it. its a great cheap anvil my wife said getting it for me for my birthday this month in June.
I have case hardened . Railway track . . Works good
There are 2 ways I test the rebound on an anvil, 1st I take a 1-1/2" ball bearing and drop from 12" and visually gauge the rebound, 2nd is the thinking or momentum blow with a hammer, ya know the one where as a smith you take a couple of taps on the anvil and go from there. IMHO the HF anvil is a ball bearing magnet as far as I'm concerned.
As always a well made vide. I myself have been curious about rebound. Great test sir!
Good stuff. Love seeing the testing of the different anvils. And this is the 1st time i was the 1st viewer. Kinda neat
Ooo getting all technical on us now... LMBO
Loved it Mr Roy
At least folks have a side by side repeatable test to veiw now.
Ok I gotta admit I woul love to.know how Ulga did in comparison to Helga
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You gotta test Olga! ...miss you dude. These videos are kinda bittersweet
Miss you to dude :-)
Some have cut the HF anvils and found large air pockets, apparently to reduce the cost of shipping.
Looks like mass is more important than hardness 🤔 that said, is good to have a harder surface to keep it clean and smooth, thanks for the video.
Love this anvil series
I like to see how many times it continues to bounce.
I usually like your videos but it seems you really dropped the ball on this one
Richard Dial Beating a dead horse with all the “cheap anvil” videos. Getting bored with this channel.
God i hope i Win the one on your videos I need me one bad I almost bought a Harbor freight Anvil but i didn't I like that Blue 66 lbs one on Amazon you showed us That's more in my price range I Really like the way you explain the lowdown's on the anvils I'll see you Friday night Thank's bud
Really like you test rig. Just out of curiosity how does it do on you big anvil?
How would a holdfast work in the hardy/Pritchel holes of the double horn anvil? It’s my understanding that it works by catching at both sides of the hole top/bottom, requiring room at the waist of the anvil for the bottom of the holdfast to go into. It looks like the double horn has no waist, therefore no room for the holdfast to angle
Roy, this is a superb video for folks needing to not only know about this but to have a general understanding. I have explained it like this. You beat on your anvil but how much is it beating on and for you? I'm a more simple person,,,lol. Gods Peace. I am still hoping to win one of the 66# ACCIAIO ones. As with alot of folks would I'm sure.~
Excellent work. I would have liked to know how high your own top of the line anvil rebounds.
Thanks for all the information sir!!!
You are also ignoring the amount of continuous rebound - the amount of bounce after the initial bounce.
That shows just how "dead" the anvil actually is. Isn't that a better test? The amount of secondary rebound?
What you do do is actually good however.
Keep checking the channel waiting for the notification of live stream
what was the spec n the ball bearing used, size & weight
These are sold out on Amazon and ebay. Been trying to get one.
I appreciate the info. Do you still do actual forging videos, though? I just noticed the last few (With the exception of the live streams) are these anvil testing/comparison videos. Very informative, but kinda dull. Well, just putting that out there. God Bless.
thanks for the info, was wondering what would be a good hardness and how would you get it?
great video lots of math!!!
Wouldn't be some of the rebound being absorbed by the world you have on top causing an inaccurate rebound? Also wouldn't the total mass of the anvil matter and the object it resting on? 2nd law of thermodynamics.
#blacksmithsquestionoftheday Roy I need some advice How would you forge hanging baskets please?
What was the height you dropped the bb from?
I think thair is a brake in period for anvils from my experience
How does railroad track compare to those?
Im new to this bit wouldn't u want a more dead blow surface to forge on seems to me a the cheaper one offers a dead blow hit at a normal temp like i stated im new i have not started yet but am researching to get started
No, that generally isn't what you want. The hot peice of steel deforms to adsorb most of the energy during use so your hammer isn't going to bounce, the more energy that goes into the peice the faster you can forge so a higher rebound is generally beneficial (and surprisingly noticeable)
Face hardness with mass,,; can see rebound directly related to hardness
is there a fix to harbor freight anvil?
Some people use weld rods to build a new harder surface on to it but you need to pre heat the anvil, at the end ot will be more expensive than get a steel chunk from a scrap yard.
Smelt it down with some chromium and molybdenum...
Third😁😁😁 still live streaming tonight?
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I just wish they didn’t paint them
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Your testing kit is poorly chosen for this measurement, you should get something better.