I actually get a nice finish in a field like with a 60" brush hog. I keep the blades sharp. However, it's the startup vibration, and temporary severe vibration when the blades swing away when hitting something with resistance I don't like. I would like to try a flail mower at some point.
I feel like my riding mower can cut grass that high. A 30 year old bush hog and an 80 year old 8n would definitely handle that no problem. I know because that was my old setup. I’d like to see a real test. Like 6 foot high wild roses, iron weed, and blackberry brambles mixed with saplings. The kinda overgrown you don’t go into wearing shorts and sneakers. Which I’d never wear on a tractor.
The flail mower would do fine if you don't need to cut saplings, or anything larger than about 3/4-1 inch in diameter. A flail mower will handle 3/4-1 inch diameter material especially if you have hammers instead of knives on your flail. Anything larger than 1" I'd run a rotary cutter that's more suited to be beat up with that stuff....a flail mower will give you nicer finished look, but its not well suited for cutting anything more than brush.
Not sure you sold me on the flail mower. I can make 2 passes if needed with the rotary cutter, and I can also go a bit slower. I'm not going to use either of those as the "final" cut if I'm looking to get more of a finish cut, it's going to be the first pass on the way to a finish cut. If I ultimately don't want a finish cut, then again I can get what I want for 1/4 the hardware price with a tank of a rotary cutter. I've used both, and while I'm not knocking the flail mower, I don't see the value outweighing the value/cost of the rotary cutter. Thanks for making the video.
One thing with a flail mower is they don't require as much horsepower to run them....thinking of getting a 48"-50" flail mower for my BX2680...a flail mower doesn't stick out the back of your tractor nearly as far as a rotary cutter either, and if you aren't cutting brush, or saplings, you don't need a rotary cutter. With my small tractor I get into small spaces that you can't get those big machines, so having a mower that sits closer to the back of the tractor is a huge plus. Although I won't be buying a Land Pride due to their ridiculous price on a flail mower...I'll be going with a BETSTCO 48" flail mower with the flail knives rather than hammers, although you can order a set of hammers and swap them out if needed for heavier mowing applications.
BETSTCO 48" flail mower with the flail knives rather than hammers--->get the forged hammers to handle saplings other small woody stuff with no worries. The stock cast hammers can be broken (ask me how I know).
@@zenshutterman I don't even think I'd need hammers, what I mow is just a pasture of overgrown weeds and grass, no saplings, or brush. Although I think a person could probably order a set of hammers and swap the knives out if they need to for certain applications, might be worth having both.
Initially, my eyes saw your rotary's rear wheel was not on the ground - the flopping up/dn may be why you saw those skips. I would be curious about the RPM the Furgie was running? I have a 6' flail with knives, not hammers, and need 2200rpm on my J-D 40hp to reach the suggested flail speed. I came from an old F-40 with a rotary mower and did not know about rear discharge vs. side when I bought it; it spit out gobs. My Caroni flail at speed cleans the ground up nicely. My neighbor has a 40hp Kubota with 6' deck mower: his property looks nice also. It's all fun-at-work. Jim
If you have rocks, like I do. Then flai mower will do a better job. If rotary hit a rock, these 2 blades will have to be replaced. Hummer kind teeth on a Flai mower will survive. They will need to be grinded again. That is all..
A bit off topic but why is does it seem necessary in these videos to use the center hitch with the bush hog? I mean the wheel holds up the back. It might come in handy if you want to back up and drop it on some heavy brush but other than that I just use the side hitches. Easier on the tractor and does a better job for me.
One comment I have not seen is rotary cutters are able to cut much further away from the tractor as in backing under trees or ditches. Doesn’t necessarily make them better but in some instances it can mow what a flail simply can’t. Jmtc
Come on....The 135 was not at 540...That flail is new...The rotary cutter is old and a bigger deal adjusted totally wrong not to mention on a tractor with no power..
IM cutting 6ft tall white pine and bradford pear mixed in with weeds,,,lets see it cut that and your result,,,,id post a video here but cant,,,,mowed low to the ground 3",,,,and smooth,,,,
Almost Everyone that compares these types of mowers has them placed on the backs of these “ tractors”. Why not avoid the “ tire roll compression” and place the units on the front??? From what I’ve seen, “ Ventrac” has addressed this issue quite nicely… jus sayin
Good information! Thank you. Why do guys wear shorts and anklets when operating machinery or walking in tall grass. Dangerous! I live in snake country though and my legs are ugly ! 😂
No dangerous snakes around here, damn ticks though and only have 6 weeks of summer weather, salesman!...such a dirty word lol Thanks for watching & commenting, 2 more weeks and back to pants for 10 months
I’m glad I’m not the only one. I watch a lot of tractor video and see shorts, ankle socks, sandals. My legs ain’t pretty but I don’t want a snake bite or cut up on equipment.
It ain't! From Europe, originally, but going back to finish mower from flail. Maintenance costs, buy in price, complexity of maintenance, part costs, are much lower with a finish mower. Besides that: a flail with chip/shred the pieces of grass which makes raking more difficult. You also need less power with a finish mower. Fuel is the most costly in our business, besides labour and my time. Even mowing a little bit more per season, the fuel I save is astonishing. And a better result. And...If you want hay/straw and easy raking and pick up in a grass cart, a flail ain't for you. The pieces are to small. Cattle don't like it and mulch for gardening: you don't want the mulch to compost to fast. And, on the front I can run a mower, and on the three point, offset, as well. Twice the speed. On less rpm , read fuel consumption, then 1 flail. And I save valuable time. The finish mower can be in the same angles as the flail mowers. That being said: we only have the grassy things here.
What a POOR comparison! You did NOT do a full cut with the flail mower but put the slasher through full on. You also had the slasher set too high for a proper cut! Your trailing wheel wasn't even on the ground so its naturally not going to cut but layover the grass! Put the flail mower through the same uncut section as the slasher and see how that goes! 🤦♂🤪🤦♂
😂😂😂 Are you kidding? If you watch the video you can see that the rotary cutter is leaving behind a lot of uncut grass! The flail mowers are definitely better than a rotary cutter and will always be.
@@hhazelhoff1363 You can keep drinking yourself! You can clearly see what i mean when you see the final results from the flail mower vs the rotary cutter and the flail mower are definitely better no matter what you say because it's made for cutting high grass and the rotary cutter is made for cutting low grass! You clearly need to put away the bottle!!!
@@hhazelhoff1363You can clearly see that the flail mower cuts the tall grass better vs the rotary cutter! Its really not that difficult to see all that uncut grass behind the rotary cutter but the truth was maybe to hard for you to realize? I would never waste my money on a rotary cutter when flail mowers exist!
@ yes I agree, that rotary cutter did a phenomenal job. And looks like it was much cheaper faster also. Great tool to get the job done quickly with minimal maintenance on equipment
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I actually get a nice finish in a field like with a 60" brush hog. I keep the blades sharp. However, it's the startup vibration, and temporary severe vibration when the blades swing away when hitting something with resistance I don't like. I would like to try a flail mower at some point.
Right on, you wont be disappointed with the flail
I feel like my riding mower can cut grass that high. A 30 year old bush hog and an 80 year old 8n would definitely handle that no problem. I know because that was my old setup. I’d like to see a real test. Like 6 foot high wild roses, iron weed, and blackberry brambles mixed with saplings. The kinda overgrown you don’t go into wearing shorts and sneakers. Which I’d never wear on a tractor.
The flail mower would do fine if you don't need to cut saplings, or anything larger than about 3/4-1 inch in diameter. A flail mower will handle 3/4-1 inch diameter material especially if you have hammers instead of knives on your flail. Anything larger than 1" I'd run a rotary cutter that's more suited to be beat up with that stuff....a flail mower will give you nicer finished look, but its not well suited for cutting anything more than brush.
flail would demolish anything under about 2 diameter. ask me how i knw.
I like the Cabe TVRP Reverse Mulcher, especially for kiwifruit orchards.
Not sure you sold me on the flail mower. I can make 2 passes if needed with the rotary cutter, and I can also go a bit slower. I'm not going to use either of those as the "final" cut if I'm looking to get more of a finish cut, it's going to be the first pass on the way to a finish cut. If I ultimately don't want a finish cut, then again I can get what I want for 1/4 the hardware price with a tank of a rotary cutter. I've used both, and while I'm not knocking the flail mower, I don't see the value outweighing the value/cost of the rotary cutter. Thanks for making the video.
One thing with a flail mower is they don't require as much horsepower to run them....thinking of getting a 48"-50" flail mower for my BX2680...a flail mower doesn't stick out the back of your tractor nearly as far as a rotary cutter either, and if you aren't cutting brush, or saplings, you don't need a rotary cutter. With my small tractor I get into small spaces that you can't get those big machines, so having a mower that sits closer to the back of the tractor is a huge plus. Although I won't be buying a Land Pride due to their ridiculous price on a flail mower...I'll be going with a BETSTCO 48" flail mower with the flail knives rather than hammers, although you can order a set of hammers and swap them out if needed for heavier mowing applications.
yes the landpride models are crazy high prices, well built but to much money
BETSTCO 48" flail mower with the flail knives rather than hammers--->get the forged hammers to handle saplings other small woody stuff with no worries. The stock cast hammers can be broken (ask me how I know).
@@zenshutterman I don't even think I'd need hammers, what I mow is just a pasture of overgrown weeds and grass, no saplings, or brush. Although I think a person could probably order a set of hammers and swap the knives out if they need to for certain applications, might be worth having both.
im cutting 10 ft 3 blades on rotary JD and pulling it with 130 hp tractor,,,small trees and weeds seems to work out well
Incorrect. If you ever owned a bush hog, you'll know that it requires Less Horsepower than a flail mower.
Would be nice to see how you are able to adjust the flail mower. Maybe next time.
Initially, my eyes saw your rotary's rear wheel was not on the ground - the flopping up/dn may be why you saw those skips. I would be curious about the RPM the Furgie was running?
I have a 6' flail with knives, not hammers, and need 2200rpm on my J-D 40hp to reach the suggested flail speed. I came from an old F-40 with a rotary mower and did not know about rear discharge vs. side when I bought it; it spit out gobs. My Caroni flail at speed cleans the ground up nicely. My neighbor has a 40hp Kubota with 6' deck mower: his property looks nice also. It's all fun-at-work. Jim
What’s MSRP for a 7 foot flail?
Thanks for the video .
Can a flail mower handle rocks better or worse than rotary? What is the best way to cut weeds and bramble out of a field that has quite a few rocks.
If you have rocks, like I do. Then flai mower will do a better job.
If rotary hit a rock, these 2 blades will have to be replaced.
Hummer kind teeth on a Flai mower will survive. They will need to be grinded again. That is all..
A bit off topic but why is does it seem necessary in these videos to use the center hitch with the bush hog? I mean the wheel holds up the back. It might come in handy if you want to back up and drop it on some heavy brush but other than that I just use the side hitches. Easier on the tractor and does a better job for me.
One comment I have not seen is rotary cutters are able to cut much further away from the tractor as in backing under trees or ditches. Doesn’t necessarily make them better but in some instances it can mow what a flail simply can’t. Jmtc
Thanks for watching and for pointing that out!
Come on....The 135 was not at 540...That flail is new...The rotary cutter is old and a bigger deal adjusted totally wrong not to mention on a tractor with no power..
Does flail mower has gearbox?
Did you watch any of the video? 🤷♂️
Big HP difference between the tractors. Rotary cutter is over sized for the box
IM cutting 6ft tall white pine and bradford pear mixed in with weeds,,,lets see it cut that and your result,,,,id post a video here but cant,,,,mowed low to the ground 3",,,,and smooth,,,,
Almost Everyone that compares these types of mowers has them placed on the backs of these “ tractors”. Why not avoid the “ tire roll compression” and place the units on the front??? From what I’ve seen, “ Ventrac” has addressed this issue quite nicely… jus sayin
Good information! Thank you. Why do guys wear shorts and anklets when operating machinery or walking in tall grass. Dangerous! I live in snake country though and my legs are ugly ! 😂
He’s a salesman
@@RustyZipper no shit!
No dangerous snakes around here, damn ticks though and only have 6 weeks of summer weather, salesman!...such a dirty word lol
Thanks for watching & commenting, 2 more weeks and back to pants for 10 months
Flail mowers are nice but not for $13K!!
Shorts? Is this guy going golfing or what?
I’m glad I’m not the only one. I watch a lot of tractor video and see shorts, ankle socks, sandals. My legs ain’t pretty but I don’t want a snake bite or cut up on equipment.
He’s a salesman
Hard to hear in the front 1/2 of the video.
Where’s the sound???
It ain't! From Europe, originally, but going back to finish mower from flail. Maintenance costs, buy in price, complexity of maintenance, part costs, are much lower with a finish mower. Besides that: a flail with chip/shred the pieces of grass which makes raking more difficult. You also need less power with a finish mower. Fuel is the most costly in our business, besides labour and my time. Even mowing a little bit more per season, the fuel I save is astonishing. And a better result. And...If you want hay/straw and easy raking and pick up in a grass cart, a flail ain't for you. The pieces are to small. Cattle don't like it and mulch for gardening: you don't want the mulch to compost to fast.
And, on the front I can run a mower, and on the three point, offset, as well. Twice the speed. On less rpm , read fuel consumption, then 1 flail. And I save valuable time. The finish mower can be in the same angles as the flail mowers. That being said: we only have the grassy things here.
Falling mowers cut better I've used them
What a POOR comparison! You did NOT do a full cut with the flail mower but put the slasher through full on. You also had the slasher set too high for a proper cut! Your trailing wheel wasn't even on the ground so its naturally not going to cut but layover the grass! Put the flail mower through the same uncut section as the slasher and see how that goes! 🤦♂🤪🤦♂
We'll make sure to adjust the height of cut next time, thanks for the feedback
That rotary cutter did a way better job, watch your own videos.
😂😂😂 Are you kidding? If you watch the video you can see that the rotary cutter is leaving behind a lot of uncut grass! The flail mowers are definitely better than a rotary cutter and will always be.
@ keep drinking
@@hhazelhoff1363 You can keep drinking yourself! You can clearly see what i mean when you see the final results from the flail mower vs the rotary cutter and the flail mower are definitely better no matter what you say because it's made for cutting high grass and the rotary cutter is made for cutting low grass! You clearly need to put away the bottle!!!
@@hhazelhoff1363You can clearly see that the flail mower cuts the tall grass better vs the rotary cutter! Its really not that difficult to see all that uncut grass behind the rotary cutter but the truth was maybe to hard for you to realize? I would never waste my money on a rotary cutter when flail mowers exist!
@ yes I agree, that rotary cutter did a phenomenal job. And looks like it was much cheaper faster also. Great tool to get the job done quickly with minimal maintenance on equipment