I think their opt-ins are actually the better way to go. Yes, they are slow and require reading through them one by one. However, they are also informative and require a consciously made choice - as opposed to clicking automatically on a box that lets you accept all terms and conditions without reading them. One of the things that 23andMe provides that I really like, is their comprehensive explanation of the laws the company is bound by as well as the pros and cons of doing a DNA test.
Thanks. Very helpful even if it was done over three years ago. 23andMe seems to be more science oriented than Ancestry. I did the National Geographic Geno Project as well. Loved it, but now it is closed.
Really. How fraudulent. The only Y they show is extremely large groups, like the one that is 20% of English males, or a Maternal that is one of the 9 major mTda groups. Thats not real Ytdna or mTdna. Their health reports is also testers supplying their information which is sold to medical companies. do a test and watch how many medical questions they keep asking. They are in the business of stealing your personal health information and selling it. In the future this information will be used to deny coverage and in particular to your descendants.
Thank you. My elderly dad was bedridden when I sent for my kit. I was hoping he'd live long enough for me to give my results to him. Unfortunately, he passed the same day I sent my kit in (9/23/2020). I thought that was an odd coincidence.
l@@FamilyHistoryFanatics Turned out my mother was part of the family she was raised with; just didn't look like them. Thank you for your kind expression about my dad.
I did 23+me first, then ancestry to compare results (mainly what regions they said im fro, etc) and to see if there see what different matches I could find. I was adopted, so these tests helped me find out a lot. Pretty much figured out who both bio parents were in about 2 days. 23+me found a half sister (was predicted as an aunt) from bio dad, of course a number of other relatives from 2 cousin to more distant. Have a 1st cousin once removed and 2nd cousin (mother + son) that ended up giving me info leading me to find bio mom. Ancestry found a couple other close relatives (between 1st and second cousins) from both sides. 23+me, was something like 39% British/Irish, 23% German/France region (Netherlands), 20.5% Scandinavian, 17% broadly Europe . Ancestry was like 68% England/NW EUR, 17% norway, 12%Sweden, 4% Germanic.
23 and Me told me I had 13% English ancestry. A few months later they changed it to Irish, then to just UK, then took it away completely and added it to my German and French ancestry. I really don't think they're reliable.
That's what I've covered in these videos ruclips.net/video/u8lMfGqSrwg/видео.html ruclips.net/video/i70SZRW9t90/видео.html. I recommend genetic testing for building your family tree through DNA matches, not for ethnicity reports.
For me Ancestry DNA and myheritage had similar results saying that Im more English on both tests. While 23andme said the same thing I had a lower percentage. Ftdna and nat geo said I'm more Eastern European then everything else. I don't know which one is most accurate for a DNA test
I really wish it's "donating" ie free. I say that because 23andMe MAKES MORE MONEY selling that information to pharmaceutical research. Yes they ask for your permission...but if they're making money (lots of it) from selling it, you should get reimbursed for the money you gave to them for the kit. The founder of 23andMe is married to one of Google's founders, and it works hand in hand with Google.
The founder of 23andMe WAS married to the founder of Google. They divorced a few years ago. I have no problem with 23andMe making money on selling the information. They added quite a bit of value. First, they took my DNA and sequenced it. Second, they polled me for information about my medical history. Third, they matched that information up with millions of other customers. Fourth, they've identified potential areas of research based on the available literature. All I did was pay $99 and I still got the raw DNA file, and the tools for genealogical matching - which is exactly what I would have received from FamilyTreeDNA who doesn't sell your information so the testing and reporting must be worth the $99. There is nothing stopping anyone from attempting to sell their raw file to some pharmaceutical company, they wouldn't buy it because it isn't worth anything by itself (I cover this in an upcoming video).
...And then they sell that information and will make more money (several times over) to pharmaceuticals who are gonna make drugs which again will make several that amount over when finished product comes out (...of you, a consumer later on). All they did besides the test is have a computer program and a server to show all those features you're talking about (you know they don't plot it in individually, once you create a program that computer create all of these for it right? LOL). "All you did..." sounds like what I hear from fan boys of things like video game companies and such. The difference is video games, movies etc. make money off of you ONCE. These guys' business plans are not even the service/kits they sold to you, in the long run, the big and long term business plan is YOUR info. That's their long term retirement plan. They'll make money of you SEVERAL times over (imagine too if they bought or buy pieces of their customers stock ie the pharmaceuticals or like I said earlier, sell these genetic data to their sister company Google). And I get it, giving voluntary info to 'create' medicines and treatments/genotherapies in the future sounds noble...EXCEPT again the fact that this (your info) is actually their money maker not the kits. In other words, if it's so noble why not give the information FOR FREE (since you already subsidized/paid for it in the first place) or reasonable price (whatever it cost to transfer data) so that big pharma or non-profits or scientific community in general could create these drugs for cheaper and hopefully get them into general consumption for cheaper? In reality y'all are being duped into really if you think about it a very insignificant 'hobby' of finding out who your cousin is or how 'white' or 'black' you are. I could understand for real medical reasons or real legal reasons (paternity tests)...but by enlarge you folks are subsidizing a massive company that will fuel even more money from you down the road (when you consume their clients drugs or wares they will tag you on social media) later on. I get it...you see this as them providing 'service' to you hobby/curiosity but if you look at the larger scheme of things, if it's the case that they'll make TRILLIONS in the long term, they should give it to you for FAR CHEAPER/next to nothing or FREE.
I don't get upset at MLB because I like to buy baseball cards, even though they are making money when I go to games, and buy their merchandise. The DNA companies have given me what I wanted. Not only that, they were explicit in their T&C of what they were going to do. If I had a problem with that I wouldn't have tested. No one is being forced to give up their spit. While 23andMe and FamilyTreeDNA are both private companies, from the little data I have been able to gather, they both have not made any money yet. So, DNA testing hasn't been contributing to their retirement plan yet.
Just abide a while. When I was a kid the whole household shut up and the fooitball game on TV was turned off when a long distance call came in, so as not to waste money. Today I never even think about long distance calls as anything but just another call. Everything comes to he who waits.
I sent in bs dna and answer questions prior to sending in the test. Something tells me it would have corresponded with any answers I gave, weather true or not.
Thanks for the video. Just signed up with 23andme. I expect the results to come back with 98 percents Asian. Not expecting a whole lot of details on ethnicity. However, I am interested in the Health info. That's the main reason for using 23andme.
can you show me how to use the checkout? it seems like they're trying to make you pay for redundant things? I thought my checkout would be $199 I had a free $69 thing, but then my checkout was $469? can someone help me
Well,the full DNA test for 23&Me does include a few Health Reports.These Health Reports are based on the genetic analysis of your Genome,specifically in regard to your genetic predispositions towards certain health conditions,and diseases.Without the Health Reports,the 23&Me DNA test is a $ 100 cheaper.But as the gentleman explained,23&Me is basically,more a Medical Research company,than it is a Genealogical compsny,friends.So then with their full DNA test,you have Health Reports included as well,which are basically just estimated probabilities of developing certain health conditions,and diseases,based on the genetic analysis of your particular DNA,friends.
What is the best company for African American and why should I test on more than one. I currently tested my father, mother, grandfather my wife and my self on ancestry DNA .com. I am really trying to trace my actual family members as far back as possible
I was considering 23andMe but opted for the National Geographic's Geno2.0 instead. Now I kind of regret my choice.I can'r afford a new test at present, but I'd still like to take 23andMe's sometime.
I tested with 23andme and I deleted my dna results. Reasons why 1 No Native American 2 No Egyptian 3 No Irish 4 No English 5 No Scottish Basically they said my dad was full African but he's not. His Grandfather was Mixed Black/White. My Grandfather took a dna test with another company and got around 50% Native American. Another reason was I didn't have a lot of close matches. All my matches we're 2nd cousins once removed and 3rd-6th Cousins. My Grandfather's Grandmother is Egyptian and she was born in Alexandria Egypt.
No US Native American would show up because it doesn't appear in any DNA testing company results. Those tribes have not agreed to be tested. Any Native American in any company is not from the US but rather South or Central American or Canada. No Egyptian, that section of the world in under represented. If you lack Irish, English, or Scottish, that is surprising since those groups are decently represented in the reference populations. With that being said, your experience is why I recommend not taking DNA tests for the ethnicity results. Instead, use genetic genealogy companies to build your family trees using DNA+Record research. It will be much more accurate.
Specifically about Neanderthal DNA: In 1997 a group of researchers at the Leipzig Max Planck Institute fot Human Genetics started a project on analyzing Neanderthal DNA, without much hope of ultimate success. They wanted to get a full genome of the Neandertha, just like we had for humans. Unfortunately, DNA doesn't last too very long in the wild, but they had hopes. The team leader, a Swede named Svante Paabo, decided to pick the dangling fruit first: try to sequence mitochndrial DNA. There's a lot more of it than nuclear DNA, and its only a single circular chromosome of 16,595 base pairs coding for 23 genes. It is inherited in all life using sexual reproduction only from the mother. The analysis was published and showed no sharing of DNA between modern humans and the Neaderthals. This was commonly interpreted that there was no sharing of any DNA. In 2006 SVante and the team started working on nuclear DNA, first trying to extract some and then building the DNA model. In May 2010 was published the papder that surprosed everyone. Not only had they succeeded in establishing the genome, but found that there was deinfite sharing in all modern humans excepting those whose ancestry never left Africa at all. This pointed a smoking gun at the middle East. So the Neanderthals died out 30,000 years ago. All but that part of them that is us.
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics Thank you for pointing that out, Andy. I'd like to ask your opinion of this new upstart company doing testing, CRIGenetics. It appears to me they are all marketing - they flooded google with their ads, including some that claim to be from independent DNA test claims testing firms, their 4-minute YT commercial is a masterpiece of obfuscation. I was totally turned off by the fact that they will test your DNA but not give you access to the download for GEDMatch use. But I'd like a second opinion.
The thing that I really hated about 23 and me was it added ancestry that I don't have. Two of my ancestral countries have been traced back to the 1600s and even the 1500s, so I know about them. The third has been traced back to the 1800s. None of them have this country. Yes, it possible there was infidelity, but Ancestry is more in line with the paper genealogy. FTDNA also has an ancestral country that I have no relatives from. I don't understand how the hell this happened with two different companies, but it did.
Hi Lee, I watched your video on 120 ancestors (very well explained, thank you!), and I'm a little curious how then the neanderthal variants from 23andMe can be counted upon if this people group lived so very long ago, way way past the realm of generations that would equal the 120 ancestors of which we have DNA.
After the Neanderthal-Modern Human interbreeding, there have probably been some genetic bottlenecks within the outside of Africa populations which fixed the Neanderthal DNA in the population.
CRI told me where my Indian tribe I came from. 23&me and Ancestry DNA didn't just that I had some Indian. All 3 we're talking this year. I am very happy with CRI. They have there own private labs. They go back farther to .
I would be highly suspect of the Indian tribe they recommend as few US Native tribes are part of any genetic genealogy companies. If you're interested in why I don't recommend CRI Genetics for serious genetic genealogists, check out this video ruclips.net/video/XEwSfmHTP-Q/видео.html
Dear Family History Fanatics: In September, I went with LivingDNA because of the main companies that shipped to the Czechia, they sounded best suited for my interests (accurate ethnicity reports, plus mtDNA and yDNA reports). 23andMe offered all that plus "chromosome painting" and Neanderthal ancestry reports, yet according to all my info, didn't ship their kits here. But Sunday, I asked their "Customer Care" if they would ever do so, and they displayed a vastly expanded countries-we-ship-to list, which includes "Czech Republic". So now that I know I have this option, and their Holiday sale is on until Christmas, I'm considering giving them a shot. I know of someone who has tested with many companies. His LivingDNA ancestry report is very similar to mine (his African is 2.1% higher, his European is 2% lower, and his South Asian is 0.1% lower than my East Asian), and is his lowest African/highest European report. MyHeritage gave him his highest African/lowest European estimate (his African is 5.6% higher, and his European is 4.2% lower, than on LivingDNA's, and his South Asian is 0%). On his 23andMe report, his African is 1.5% higher, and his European is 1.6% lower, than on LivingDNA, and his South Asian is replaced by East Asian & Native American 0.8%, Western Asian & North African 0.1%, and Unassigned 0.6%. According to him, 23andMe and FTDNA give the most accurate estimates. We agree that LivingDNA nearly certainly misread our Native American markers as East/South Asian. What's your take on all this? Do you think I'd get similarly varying estimates from these companies. Also, does 23andMe's chromosome painting tell which traits any of these chromosome segments determine?
Ethnicity/Admixture/Heritage results are estimates at best and always will be, because you didn't inherit equal amounts of DNA from all of your ancestors. I don't think that any company can really claim to have the most accurate ethnicity estimates, because I don't know that there is any way to tell. For 23andMe's traits, they tell you where on a chromosome it is, but if you wanted to merge that with your ethnicity/admixture results, you would have to manually map that out.
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics Thank you for replying. It seems you misunderstood my last question. I meant: Does chromosome painting indicate which PHENOTYPE traits (body size/shape, skin/eye/hair pigmentation, blood factors, etc) any chromosome and/or chromosomal segment determines? For example, does it indicate that one has Nilotic markers on the maternal, body build segment, and Scottish/Irish markers on the maternal, skin pigmentation segment?
Genetics as a tool of genealogy hasn't really matured yet and genetic testing results, while interesting, should be taken with a grain of salt. I first submitted a sample to AncestryDNA and then later to 23 and Me. (I was attracted to the idea of finding out whether I had Neanderthal genes or not....) Initially, Ancestry DNA had me at 72% Greek-Italian (I guess based on their sample size, they put Italians, Greeks, and those in the Balkans as one group). With both parents from Sicily-Italy, that seemed reasonably close. It then said that my genetic make-up was 13% Middle Eastern and 8% Caucasian (likely Turkey). They've since changed it to 77% Italian (I guess their sample groups grew enough to differentiate), Greece and the Balkans 5%, Turkey and the Caucus was up to 15%. Middle Eastern was down to 3%. OTOH, 23 and me 95.8% European (77% Italian, 7% Balkan, and another 10% "broadly Southern European" - does not include Turkey), and only 3.9% Western Asian and North African. The only thing that surprised me was not to see much of any Northern European mixed in there. Though my family is Southern Italian, we mostly have blue eyes, medium to light complexions, and a decent percentage of blondes in the family. I would've expected to see the legacy of the Barbaric, Frankish, and Moorish invasions of Italy represented in my genetic make-up, but apparently it doesn't go that far back.
I think you mistake ethnicity/admixture results with genealogy. Genetics for genealogy does not need to be taken with a grain of salt. It is rock solid. While still young, it is more the development of tools and techniques that push the limit of what genetics can tell us about the people we are related to (i.e. cousin matching). All of the examples you gave are ethnicity/admixture results which are fine at the continental level but shouldn't be relied upon for the smaller regions.
They have the largest sampling size & only report things on confidence levels unlike other companies that can "report things". MOST accurate results for me. But no company can give u precise results
Agreed. 23andMe's reference population contains the largest number of samples, although MyHeritage and LivingDNA don't give you exact numbers. Although even then, only the European component has several thousand in the reference population. The Oceania one only has 40 or 50 if I remember right. I also like the confidence level indicator, although for my results it doesn't change a whole lot.
I know right! Ancestry uses 100-200 samples per country. My heritage & familytreedna gave me inaccurate results. A guy from my heritage that I emailed even said that they don't have as many samples as the other companies
If you are looking for accuracy in ethnicity/admixture results, it is not going to happen with any company on anything more than a continental or macroregional level. The size of the reference populations just doesn't allow it.
Family History Fanatics Hi, I have question to ask you if you don't mind. I find 23andme accurate with Southern European DNA results. For the reason, that compared to Ancestry it seems they aren't so accurate with Southern European DNA. To begin with, I have seen and know many people who have tried with both DNA companies and most of the time when they get Italy/Greece from Ancestry it turns out less Italian or Greek. But, with 23andme especially, with Hispanics who have tried with both of them. For instance, there is a video in RUclips of a Portuguese guy that got 40% Italy/Greece and only 10% Iberian. But, then he tried it with 23andme and it turned out that his Iberian was actually 69% and his Italian was only 5%. He got totally different results and he said that he feels that 23andme was spot on accurate with his Iberian. Since all his Ancestors where Portuguese descent and not Italian from both his paternal and maternal grandparents on both parents side of the family. Besides, that Ancestry won't confirm if your actually Italian or Greek which can be confusing since its labeled in one category unless you know that your family is actually of Italian or Greek descent or half. Moreover, I understand the history of the romans invaded Iberian Peninsula and ruled it at one point but it was mostly their culture they left behind more so then rather mixing with the native Iberians. Which did not impact the Iberian gene pool enough to cause a big change in today present of Spanish or Portuguese people. If anything the Italics mixed but, it's less then the minority that impacted the Iberian Peninsula. On the other hand, I believe it was actually the Celtics that impacted the Iberian Peninsula gene pool. Which are referred as Celtiberians. From what I read and learned about the history of the Iberian Peninsula. I'm not a expert but, I know enough to a certain degree. Furthermore, I feel that overall 23andme has a better accuracy with Southern European DNA results. Finally, what is your take on this and which do you feel is more accurate with Southern European which I do understand that all DNA companies are not accurate enough to give you perfect DNA results. But, referring to Hispanics who get a higher degree of Italy/Greece and less Iberian with Ancestry. But, vice versa they get high Iberian and low Italian with 23andme. Thank you for your time hope you can answer my question.
Not at all! I got 75.5% Italian & 10.4% broadly southern European. Ancestry is so bad with Southern European DNA & I come out more Arabic on ancestry than on 23&me (Italians have invaded the Middle East besides middle easterners invading Italy). 23&me is the most ACCURATE due to their largest sample size, but no company in terms of ethnicity is PRECISE
They changed the results and took out the British and Irish and Balkan and Greek percentages from my ancestry. I gave tests for my mom and dad and share with them, but my brother has his results private and my Ancestry DNA has my autosomal results and the results of my parents and sister-in-law that I manage. They also took the British and Irish and trace of Native American and European Jewish out of my results. 23 and Me seems to be the most precise in matching to geographic locations I know my family is from. My Heritage considers Czechoslovakia and Poland part of the Balkans and Baltic and Italian DNA I guess because it was part of the Roman Empire and Austro-Hungarian empire.
great video thanks. is it possible to send 2 examples, one of me and one of my mother? wouldnt that make research even easier and more precise? just being curious:)
Yeah, just order two test kits. Under my 23andMe account, I manage more than 20 samples from grandparents to children to in-laws, and so on. Having a parent and child kit linked allows for some phased matching so that you can separate out what line (either your mother or your father's) the match is on.
Sent Ancestry DNA $75 two years received test kit. Followed instruction to the letter. Mailed it in NEVER received results. Have tried many times to contact them. Results no longer a working number. Any ideas.
So I did my kids test on 23andme and it was weird because one of my kids and my brother had common relatives that my other son didn't then both of my sons were related to someone that my brother wasn't so I don't think me and my brothers are full siblings anymore so I did 23andme and ancestry also waiting on results
I would like to find out about my root. My last name was given to a not blood related great grandparent. I can’t find out anything about my blood related grandpa because he didn’t marry my grandma and died while I was a kid, so did my dad and his mom. So I feel rootless. I can’t map out my own ancestry tree. I want to know my heritage. The information I have is bits and pieces from my mom. When she was younger, she didn’t reveal this to me. Now her memory isn’t as sharp as before but she told me my blood great grandfather was a westerner. But in my memory, I don’t see obvious features on father that shows except slightly lighter hair which only my sister and I also had when we were children. And most of my 20s-30s, my complex was fairer than the others. I am Asian. But because my country was colonized by Spain, Portugal, and influenced by Netherland. I do know a friend of mine with very light brown eyes with features as normal Taiwanese. And he told me that his eye color is cross generation featuring his Spanish ancestors. I would like to test if my gene contains gene of Spanish or any of the colonizing country and I would also like to find relatives in the world. But I don’t like to use reference markers which using comparing with others to “guess” where my ancestors might be from. Which gene test company service would you suggest me to use? Also there’s another channel in collaboration with VOX talking about how dangerous it is to do gene test. What’s your opinion on that? Thank you for your time
I won't take on Vox but here's my views on whether DNA testing is safe ruclips.net/video/ThcgOWQxYqM/видео.html As for which test, as funds allow, test with all of the genetic genealogy companies, particularly Ancestry and 23andMe and transfer that DNA to MyHeritage and FamilyTreeDNA. You never know where your relatives tested. Then begin working with close DNA matches to filter to your unknown line and you'll learn a lot. Ignore the ethnicity estimates because they won't really be helpful, actually more confusing, than any other research tool.
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics Thanks for your reply. So you mean I can choose either of the two companies for the test. Do they all have the transfer service or I should purchase two more services from MyHeritage and FamilyTreeDNA?
I'm not sure what you mean by a tree, but I'm currently going through the process of building my own family tree on 23&Me. The site provides a rough tree form and insert close relatives somewhere in the tree. You fill in the gaps between yourself and those people, as well as you can. My frustration with the site is not their fault, but the fault of the members. I was able to list many last names and places of birth. I am second generation American. Almost no one puts any information at all in that place.
This video was created in 2017. They didn't have a good way to build their family tree. In 2019, the added the ability to build a family tree using the help of FamilySearch, that was covered in this video ruclips.net/video/Cr-afpQNSrk/видео.html
What are you trying to upgrade to? What are you trying to get out of 23andMe? I have made a few other videos about 23andMe that might interest you. ruclips.net/p/PLcVx-GSCjcdnuu078hljTIV9v6Ndf1pBn
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics As far as I know they upgraded the african ancestry population and others.I didn't receive any new information on my ancestry report.
It's very helpful. I researched the DNA testing companies and choose 23andme. Got the results. Nothing showing for France on their map. WHAT? Apparently the ancestor we thought was French was Irish and adopted. 99.06% Irish/British looked right. The other 0.04%? Iranian. It seems farmers from that area migrated to Ireland hundreds of years ago. Had both DNA and Health reports done. Happy with them. However, a little week with Customer Service.
Charcot-Marie-Tooth is caused by a duplication of a large section of DNA on Chromosome 17 (from Wikipedia). I don't think that any of the genealogy testing companies test for this type of genetic anomaly.
I just signed up. I do like the detailed opt-in's since they are selling my data. I do plan on porting my data FTDNA and later doing y&mt tests as well and using other sites for analysis. I'll check which videos you have on this channel shortly but the question I have right now is ... Has anyone does two tests back to back or a few months apart and received different results for particular SNP's or chromosome. In other words what is the error rate of the sequencing machines?
Good Question. NO, 23andme do NOT provide detailed MTdna other than about the 9 daughters of eve. Their male is similarly very board. My yTdna at 23andme is in a group that is 20% of the English population. At Family TRee DNA, at 111 Markers I have 8 matches. Down at 67 I have several hundred matches. You don't get that at 23andme
I am plannng to purchase a kit from 23 and me to finally get a test done. Andy, are you on Wikitree? Wikitree is wonderful for both genealogy and for DNA matches. Also have you uploaded your raw data to GEDmatch as well? Wikitree dot com. Its a great place to post your tree, its free and I love it!! There is a steep learning curve, but once you get past that, then you are good to go.
Does 23AndMe show you a family tree of relatives and cousins along with the ethnicity? I’ve been looking around the internet and I haven’t been able to find anyone referencing a family tree option for 23AndMe. If there is an option for that, i would be extremely grateful if you could educate me regarding this.
I ordered my kit last Sunday, it has come but I haven't sent it back yet. Mostly, I'm curious to see how much Neanderthal I got. It will also be interesting to see if what the Family always said the ancestors came from was true.
Take a sample of your dog's dna and it will come back as Scandinavian and European. For $200 the cost of 1 kit at 23andme, you can get 4 family finder kits with better origin information or , one family finder with real full sequence maternal dna that you will never see at 23andme who are just as likely to destroy your sample if you complain about their service.
New to genealogy, so I️ have what is a stupid question. If my brother tested and got Y chromosome information from our father and genetic information from our mother. Being a female, is there any advantage to having my dna tested?
Yes, but not from a Y-DNA perspective. The Y-DNA is only one of the 46 chromosomes. Both you and your brother have unique sets of the other chromosomes. If your brother did an autosomal test (FamilyFinder, 23andMe, AncestryDNA, MyHeritage), then your results will have some overlap with his, but will also have some differences. In essence, by having both of you test, you are preserving a larger portion of your parents DNA to potentially match with distant cousins.
Your brother, being male, could not take the mtDNA test, which is only passed from mother to daughter. If you're interested in your mother's line, you can include the mtDNA test and you will get new information not available to your brother.
Here is another mystery I just noticed. I see one match on X who shares 62 matches in common and another person 47. The average is probably under 10. What does this mean?
I'm kinda confused about something; I went to Ancestry. com and see they want a monthly membership.. i just want to have my DNA done and get a report. of my heritage.
Ancestry DNA tests are a gateway to the past. Your ethnicity report will change as Ancestry updates it's database regularly and discoveries new information about people from various regions around the world. In short, you can get your ethnicity report but it is not final and will likely keep changing and AncestryDNA learns more. It won't be done. The monthly rates will help you see how you're related to living individuals who have the same DNA as you. If you know some or all of your family tree, linking that to your DNA is beneficial to other researchers.
I was a bit disappointed with myheritage as they did not give me much info so I decided to try 23andme. Hope they can give me more accurate details about my ancestry.
MyHeritage is the latecomer and they are desperately trying to play catchup. Personally, I think they should have stayed with their partnership they had with 23andMe and leveraged that better.
+Family History Fanatics I'm seriously considering testing with 23andMe but before I do, I wanted to ask your very knowledgeable opinion. So...I and my sibling (brother) are half brothers through our mother, which is what we're sure of. Our father is what we're unsure of. My mother said she's solidly sure that we're half siblings siblings, but does agree she's not 100% sure...I recently saw a commercial about half-siblings that discovered they were related through 23andMe (Assuming because I've really been searching online) and yet they were only had 20% genetically similar? I'm confused...Isn't it supposed to be 50%? Because you're 'HALF SIBLINGS'? What I wanted to do is kinda "double dip" withOUT having to go to a DNA center and also getting our genetic ancestry...So, do you know if it would tell us whether we ARE full siblings via our father? We'd both be sending our kits at the same time because I'll be paying for his.
Half siblings on average share about 25% of DNA (so 20% is in the right ballpark). Yes, the 23andMe DNA tests will tell you whether you are half or full siblings (although for half siblings it may report it as uncle/nephew or grandparent/grandchild).
23andme are junk. Do the family finder and Ytdna at FamilyTReedna to see that you do in fact match on Ytdna as well as the Family Finder. 23andme are disreputable and engage in fraudulent business practices and sell your personal info to medical companies. Don't be stupid, test with other than 23andme
Simple question. Can they find my Y chromosome ??? I phoned my dad and brother but they pass for a DNA test So I am the only one. I mailed them for an answer to this topic but got no answer so far. I need to have my Haplo groups too and the 23rd chromosome pair. I am all new in this, help is needed. Thanks and best regards from Belgium :)
23andMe and Living DNA will test SNPs in your Y DNA as well as mtDNA and report your haplogroup along with the autosomal testing they do. Family Tree DNA has separate Y-DNA STR tests, Y-DNA SNP tests, mitochondrial tests and autosomal tests.
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics Thank you, buddy. Was just reading about the markers in y-dna. I ordered a test at 23andMe and am checking now Familytree DNA. The prize depends on the number of markers. Checking also a company named LivingDNA. Also important is that you can download the RAW files to compare with gedmatch and others. For most ancestors I amalready in the early 1500s .
i am very disappointed with this company i cant enter my subscription for months even that "THEY SEND ME A NEW PASSWORD" and lately they not even send a password BAD very bad 0 stars for this company
They have a common ancestor from Africa period.. was no mating going on.. the similarities were developed separately.. even the scientist who first found them says so😎
Because I read on many reviews/sites that this test is often more expensive but don't give the best results. Not very accurate. Not a good database. etc. Each time, it was said to chose another one.
it was a waste of money for me. I did it like five years ago, but since then there haven't been many improvements. I did ancestryDNA earlier this year and loved everything about it. Now I'm waiting for my 23andme results.
Just a tip: please stay still or get a different mic. I can't handle the constant sounds of something rubbing against it so I don't watch. I want to, though! It's easy to fix!
I sent in dog dna , results say I’m 51.24 Scandinavian. How’s that now? Recorded Family tree is from England. And ITS DOG DNA!!!!!!!!! Do I get a refund? Side note I answered all my questions attentive to Scandinavian Lineage as provided by the internet.
That sounds part of the norm for 23andme. Their object is to SELL your data permanently to medical companies. As do Ancestry and myheritage. The only company that does not have gutter ethics is familytreedna where the serious researchers go.
@@ramj9309 A dog is not going to spit in a tube for you or allow you to swab their cheek. Charity is lying and you are foolish enough to believe her. However I doubt you really believe her if you ever did a DNA test. You are just using her foolish comment for your own agenda. as far as them using our DNA to deny heretical. Why not just deny everyone as we all have something wrong with us and something is going to kill us eventually. Just say no one can get healthcare because eventually some health issue will kill them. That makes as much sense.
Listened to your video on dna companies and %ges explained a lot 3% swedish dads family from scotland and great briton is overlapping ...i choose ancestry dna it does not explain much of the results
23andMe are a joke, They lump the middle east from the Gulf to Morocco 5000 km as one group! But they claim they can differentiate between Spaniards, Italians, Greeks and other regions in Europe. How could the Gulf states be unrelated to Iraq, Syria but in the same time Berbers in Algeria and Morocco 5000 km away are in the same group as Gulf Arabs?? This is a joke *They claim to have increased the regions to 120 but they Joined Arabia with North Africa knowing that Berbers aren't Arabs* If someone can explain to me why they have done that
My guess is because they don't have large enough samples in their database from those regions. When more Berbers and Arabs test, they'll be able to narrow it down more. But like Andy has said, the claim that they CAN differentiate between different western European countries isn't always accurate either. They do that based on genetic traits. So for example, there is a specific gene that causes people to have red hair. Many people in Ireland have red hair (and thus that gene) but so do people from other parts of Europe. 23&Me associates the red hair gene to Irish ancestry, so if someone with red hair tests, they'll likely be told they have Irish ancestry, even if they don't actually.
I agree. Their regions are based on national boundaries as opposed to PCA charts. When it comes to Europe their regions are so simplistic. Here are the errors: 1) Finland is placed in Northwest Europe. Finns cluster nowhere near English, Dutch, Flemish, Germans, Irish, Scots, Welsh, Orcadians, and French. Finland should be in Eastern Europe. 2) France and Germany is ridiculous sub region. While the French are genetically Western European, they plot much further South than Germans, Dutch, and Flemish. People of Corsica are not related at all to this region. Some Corsicans cluster alongside Tuscans, while others cluster with Sardinians. Corsica should be in the Southern European region. French Basques are placed in this region. All Basques cluster together, well away from Germany, and the Low Countries. Austrians should be divided between Austrians_Tirol, and Austrians. Austrians_Tirol cluster with South Germans, and Swiss, but as PCA charts, and LivingDNA point out Austrians cluster with Czechs, and Hungarians. LivingDNA place East Austria in the Pannonia region (centered on Hungary), which is part of the greater Eastern European region. 3) Their placement of Ashkenazi Jews in Eastern Europe is culturally correct, yet genetically incorrect. A study of genetics proves that Ashkenazi Jews cluster with Southern Europeans (especially Southern Italians), and people of the Middle East (especially people of the Levant, Armenia, Georgia, Azerbaijan, and Cyprus). Ashkenazi who have Sephardi ancestry often cluster near Saudis, North Africans, and by default West Iberians ( Western Spaniards, Galicians, and Portuguese ) as they have a strong North African genetic influence. 4) While their Balkan region is geographically correct, it is genetically incorrect. Greeks and Albanians cluster near Southern Italians, Tuscans, and Northern Italians, and should be part of Southern Europe. Romanians, Bulgarians, Serbs, Croats, Macedonians, Bosnians, and Slovenians all plot to the north of Northern Italians. Croats cluster near Hungarians, and Slovenes. They even have an overlap with East Austrians. 23andme should redefine their regions and base them on PCA charts, like Living DNA do. I think their regions should be: Northwest Europe: United Kingdom (further broken down), and Eire; Scandinavia; France (further broken down); Northwest Germany and Benelux; Southern Germany, Switzerland, and Austria_Tirol; East Germany. Eastern Europe: Finland, Estonia, Karelia, and the Saami lands; Baltics (Latvia, and Lithuania); Western Russia; East-Central Europe (Poland, Belarus, Ukraine), Danubia (Austria_East, Hungary, Czechia, and Slovakia), East Balkan (Romania, Bulgaria, Moldova, Montenegro, Macedonia, Kosovo, and Serbia), and West Balkan (Slovenia, Croatia, and Bosnia). Southern Europe: Basque, West Iberia, East Iberia, Sardinia and South Corsica, Tuscany and North Corsica, Northern Italy, Southern Italy, Malta, Aegean (Greece, and Albania). Unlike LivingDNA (since 2020), I believe Cyprus should be in the Middle Eastern region. Ashkenazi which would be a cross between Southern Europe and Southwest Asia (read: Middle East).
I WATCHED IN YOU TUBE THIS FILIPINO GIRL WHO DID DNA TEST WITH 23 AND ME..HER RESULT WAS 99% FILIPINO AND AUSTRONESIAN, YET HER FEATURES WERE FINE WITH FAIR SKIN OF NORTH ASIA AND FINE FACIAL FEATURES..PLUS FILIPINOS HAVE BEEN MIXING WITH SPANIARDS SINCE 1500..AT LEAST I EXPECT 30% NORTH ASIA AND 70% FILIPINO AND AUSTRONESIAN..CLEARLY 23 AND ME IS VERY INADEQUATE
Actually, I don't expect most companies to be extremely accurate for Asian countries. The reference populations that our DNA is compared to is fairly small for these regions. If more Asians take DNA tests and are incorporated into the reference database, then the results will likely change.
imo Living Dna is way better than 23 and me. its not well known but it breaks down dna exactly to the country and parts of it especially your uk ancestry it will tell you what part of the uk you're from. its a lot more detailed and doesnt have that shitty broadly whatever ancestry that 23 and me pulls on you. like saying your 40 percent broadly something. living dna actually has way more detail
More detail does not equate to more accuracy. LivingDNA hasn't released what the size of their reference population is. 23andMe, Ancestry, and FamilyTreeDNA have. 23andMe's reference population set is about twice the size of the other two. It's still too small to give accuracy on a country level.
Size of the database isn't the "problem" here. The fact that people make babies across the border (and sometimes those borders getting moved around...) is
OMG, Another blatant advert for 23andme that youtube use to promote myheritage, two companies that go to the bottom of my list and I'm a customer at both.
I have a question for you that I would deeply appreciate you answering and that is this. I found out in 2009 3 days after he passed away that the man who raised me was not my biological father. I had a DNA test done by our University -- as at that time-- they were hugely expensive and were the only available way. Anyways, my "alleged" father is dead and his children are not receptive of me. So I did a ancestry dna test here a few weeks ago, when I get my results back will it show "Potential" family members from my alleged father's side if they have had testing done through the same website? thanks so much.
Absolutely. It will show them as half siblings. Or if there are close cousins they would show up to. If you have a sibling or cousin from your mothers side that had also tested, this would help to sort out which matches are from your biological father's side of the family.
For 23andMe that is when they show you the chromosomes with the ethnicity results overlaid so that you can see roughly where different parts of your genome came from.
But it shares your profile, and your IP address, and all the cookies on your computer, all of your browsing history, etc. Enough for a company like Google or Facebook or Amazon to make a pretty accurate profile of you. A lot more valuable than your DNA profile.
jimmythesaint Why are you acting like such a douche? Also, what government is truly "trustworthy"? C'mon lets hear your answer. As if the US government is purposely releasing your info.
Are people still really puzzled as to why DNA is being collected? These companies are simply a testing ground for what’s to come. The explosion of fast loan companies with extortionate interest rates are by the governments design and the same with the explosion of online gambling companies, both of which enslave the people who can least afford to lose the little money they have as it is. DNA collection companies are by design by the same people. DNA collection will some day be by force, if it isn’t being collected already by stealth. The purpose? They will put everything about you onto the RFID chip you will be forced to take in your right hand, or your forehead, if you want to buy or sell. When that is global, then all of society will be enslaved. THAT is the end goal of the satanic forces that now rules this world.
Aaaaagh i wish i had watched this before i sent for my DNA kit:( So what use is a company where you dont have a tree and no one replies to your messages? I am already on other sites and thought this was going to enhance my research into my family and potentially give me a new contact who could break the brick wall - what a waste of money. as much use as a chocolate fireguard Grrrrrrrrrrr
"Great question and I can relate to the frustration. Many people don't realize the ease of access to information that we have today. 20 years ago, if I wanted to find someone that I didn't already know some information on, it would be nearly impossible. Now, I can do it in an afternoon. I just spent 20 minutes finding out who you were. Not stalking, just thought it would be a fun exercise to test my skills. So, the usefulness of DNA matching without family trees and no replies is that you can find clues as where to search next. It's better than having no starting point."
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics it's 1 year on now and I've had only a few replies but no use whatsoever in making positive connections with relatives. Sad because I have a few decent matches that could break my brick wall
I never had to call their customer support staff. The only hiccup I had was my first test came back unreadable and they send me a new kit to do the test again, no charge.
Good point. 23andme are abusive on the phone. They cancelled my sample that I paid for after I lodged a complaint. They also CANCELLED , Trashed a sample because it was sold by CVS over ebay, and Trashed another because it was mailed in from Canada. 23andme is an offensive company.
23 and Me is FAR better than Ancestry DNA. They were precise with their ethnicity results according to my own research that spans 500 years back. Ancestry were fairly off getting 50% of my ethnicity off or leaving it out entirely. FamilyTree likewise aren't very accurate. If you are looking for detailed ethnicity-23 and Me is the best company by far. Ancestry is good for finding 1000 6=8th cousins that you will not find the connection to. Not to mention Ancestry charges for a subscription...and not cheap either! For a company to campaign and heavily advertise based on ethnicity, Ancestry is the most general and vague....you will know more going into it then coming out of it.
Same here I knew it. Ancestry DNA isn't actually coming for me I've been waiting that's how I were paid for subscription. Then I'm about plan getting 23 and me is better. It is crazy
Neanderthals were actually more advanced than their contemporary human counterparts. They have tools and technology humans of the time period did not. They were able to make a type of glue though a thermodynamic process that scientists even today cannot replicate on the level they did. They also had the same genes and vocal cords required for speach.
think about it people why are these companies making these kits so available? Why are they pushing the availability, easy use of these kits? Why are they getting people to take these DNA tests? Why are they so interested in getting people to take these tests? These companies first got their funding from our government. What do you think they do with the results, they send to you a print it if the results. But why do they keep the results on their computers? Do they give the results to our government? You better believe they do. It's just another way if cataloging us just like the social security numbers do. Credit scores are another way to catalog us. Just are drivers licenses and is cards are. The day is coming when money will be worthless and you will have to use debit and credit cards until they are replaced by another means of currency that can also be used for tracking and cataloging people.
Uhhhh ... to make money? And, no, they don't give the results to the government. Else you'd be able to prove it. Paranoia of all the rest of the world is so self-defeating. Think about it. Indeed.
I think their opt-ins are actually the better way to go. Yes, they are slow and require reading through them one by one. However, they are also informative and require a consciously made choice - as opposed to clicking automatically on a box that lets you accept all terms and conditions without reading them. One of the things that 23andMe provides that I really like, is their comprehensive explanation of the laws the company is bound by as well as the pros and cons of doing a DNA test.
Fair enough. I think that the vast majority of people won't read the T&Cs whether they are shown it all at once or have to click on 20 pages of them.
Thanks. Very helpful even if it was done over three years ago. 23andMe seems to be more science oriented than Ancestry. I did the National Geographic Geno Project as well. Loved it, but now it is closed.
Glad it was helpful!
I'm currently waiting on my results, excited for what it reveals.
Awesome.
I like their Y and mitochondria haplogroupings. I also like their health reports.
Really. How fraudulent. The only Y they show is extremely large groups, like the one that is 20% of English males, or a Maternal that is one of the 9 major mTda groups. Thats not real Ytdna or mTdna. Their health reports is also testers supplying their information which is sold to medical companies. do a test and watch how many medical questions they keep asking. They are in the business of stealing your personal health information and selling it. In the future this information will be used to deny coverage and in particular to your descendants.
I like their health reports as well.
Thank you. My elderly dad was bedridden when I sent for my kit. I was hoping he'd live long enough for me to give my results to him. Unfortunately, he passed the same day I sent my kit in (9/23/2020). I thought that was an odd coincidence.
Sorry for your loss 🙏
Good luck with your research question. I'm sorry to hear about your loss.
l@@FamilyHistoryFanatics Turned out my mother was part of the family she was raised with; just didn't look like them. Thank you for your kind expression about my dad.
@@user-gw9zh1it4b Thank you.
I did 23+me first, then ancestry to compare results (mainly what regions they said im fro, etc) and to see if there see what different matches I could find.
I was adopted, so these tests helped me find out a lot. Pretty much figured out who both bio parents were in about 2 days.
23+me found a half sister (was predicted as an aunt) from bio dad, of course a number of other relatives from 2 cousin to more distant. Have a 1st cousin once removed and 2nd cousin (mother + son) that ended up giving me info leading me to find bio mom.
Ancestry found a couple other close relatives (between 1st and second cousins) from both sides.
23+me, was something like 39% British/Irish, 23% German/France region (Netherlands), 20.5% Scandinavian, 17% broadly Europe . Ancestry was like 68% England/NW EUR, 17% norway, 12%Sweden, 4% Germanic.
And yes, i have seen the stuff about ethnicity .
For adoptees, DNA tests are invaluable.
23 and Me told me I had 13% English ancestry. A few months later they changed it to Irish, then to just UK, then took it away completely and added it to my German and French ancestry. I really don't think they're reliable.
That's what I've covered in these videos ruclips.net/video/u8lMfGqSrwg/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/i70SZRW9t90/видео.html. I recommend genetic testing for building your family tree through DNA matches, not for ethnicity reports.
For me Ancestry DNA and myheritage had similar results saying that Im more English on both tests. While 23andme said the same thing I had a lower percentage. Ftdna and nat geo said I'm more Eastern European then everything else. I don't know which one is most accurate for a DNA test
Without doing a paper genealogy tree, no one is going to know. The admixture results each company reports are rough (emphasis on the rough part).
I really wish it's "donating" ie free. I say that because 23andMe MAKES MORE MONEY selling that information to pharmaceutical research. Yes they ask for your permission...but if they're making money (lots of it) from selling it, you should get reimbursed for the money you gave to them for the kit. The founder of 23andMe is married to one of Google's founders, and it works hand in hand with Google.
The founder of 23andMe WAS married to the founder of Google. They divorced a few years ago.
I have no problem with 23andMe making money on selling the information. They added quite a bit of value. First, they took my DNA and sequenced it. Second, they polled me for information about my medical history. Third, they matched that information up with millions of other customers. Fourth, they've identified potential areas of research based on the available literature.
All I did was pay $99 and I still got the raw DNA file, and the tools for genealogical matching - which is exactly what I would have received from FamilyTreeDNA who doesn't sell your information so the testing and reporting must be worth the $99. There is nothing stopping anyone from attempting to sell their raw file to some pharmaceutical company, they wouldn't buy it because it isn't worth anything by itself (I cover this in an upcoming video).
...And then they sell that information and will make more money (several times over) to pharmaceuticals who are gonna make drugs which again will make several that amount over when finished product comes out (...of you, a consumer later on). All they did besides the test is have a computer program and a server to show all those features you're talking about (you know they don't plot it in individually, once you create a program that computer create all of these for it right? LOL). "All you did..." sounds like what I hear from fan boys of things like video game companies and such. The difference is video games, movies etc. make money off of you ONCE. These guys' business plans are not even the service/kits they sold to you, in the long run, the big and long term business plan is YOUR info. That's their long term retirement plan. They'll make money of you SEVERAL times over (imagine too if they bought or buy pieces of their customers stock ie the pharmaceuticals or like I said earlier, sell these genetic data to their sister company Google). And I get it, giving voluntary info to 'create' medicines and treatments/genotherapies in the future sounds noble...EXCEPT again the fact that this (your info) is actually their money maker not the kits. In other words, if it's so noble why not give the information FOR FREE (since you already subsidized/paid for it in the first place) or reasonable price (whatever it cost to transfer data) so that big pharma or non-profits or scientific community in general could create these drugs for cheaper and hopefully get them into general consumption for cheaper? In reality y'all are being duped into really if you think about it a very insignificant 'hobby' of finding out who your cousin is or how 'white' or 'black' you are. I could understand for real medical reasons or real legal reasons (paternity tests)...but by enlarge you folks are subsidizing a massive company that will fuel even more money from you down the road (when you consume their clients drugs or wares they will tag you on social media) later on. I get it...you see this as them providing 'service' to you hobby/curiosity but if you look at the larger scheme of things, if it's the case that they'll make TRILLIONS in the long term, they should give it to you for FAR CHEAPER/next to nothing or FREE.
I don't get upset at MLB because I like to buy baseball cards, even though they are making money when I go to games, and buy their merchandise. The DNA companies have given me what I wanted. Not only that, they were explicit in their T&C of what they were going to do. If I had a problem with that I wouldn't have tested. No one is being forced to give up their spit.
While 23andMe and FamilyTreeDNA are both private companies, from the little data I have been able to gather, they both have not made any money yet. So, DNA testing hasn't been contributing to their retirement plan yet.
Just abide a while. When I was a kid the whole household shut up and the fooitball game on TV was turned off when a long distance call came in, so as not to waste money. Today I never even think about long distance calls as anything but just another call. Everything comes to he who waits.
I sent in bs dna and answer questions prior to sending in the test. Something tells me it would have corresponded with any answers I gave, weather true or not.
Thanks for the video. Just signed up with 23andme. I expect the results to come back with 98 percents Asian. Not expecting a whole lot of details on ethnicity. However, I am interested in the Health info. That's the main reason for using 23andme.
That's one of the reasons I chose it initially.
can you show me how to use the checkout? it seems like they're trying to make you pay for redundant things? I thought my checkout would be $199 I had a free $69 thing, but then my checkout was $469? can someone help me
Good news there is now a family tree on 23 and me but they need to improve it and I herd they are trying to improve but they still need to a lot
Since we filmed this video, yes there is a tree capability. Watch this video next ruclips.net/video/Cr-afpQNSrk/видео.html
Their tree so far is completely unreliable.
Well,the full DNA test for 23&Me does include a few Health Reports.These Health Reports are based on the genetic analysis of your Genome,specifically in regard to your genetic predispositions towards certain health conditions,and diseases.Without the Health Reports,the 23&Me DNA test is a $ 100 cheaper.But as the gentleman explained,23&Me is basically,more a Medical Research company,than it is a Genealogical compsny,friends.So then with their full DNA test,you have Health Reports included as well,which are basically just estimated probabilities of developing certain health conditions,and diseases,based on the genetic analysis of your particular DNA,friends.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
What is the best company for African American and why should I test on more than one. I currently tested my father, mother, grandfather my wife and my self on ancestry DNA .com. I am really trying to trace my actual family members as far back as possible
All of them are probably the same for African American. I would test in multiple companies to get into as many databases as possible.
I was considering 23andMe but opted for the National Geographic's Geno2.0 instead. Now I kind of regret my choice.I can'r afford a new test at present, but I'd still like to take 23andMe's sometime.
I have been told that you can download the results from Geno 2.0 and transfer them to MyHeritage or FamilyTreeDNA.
Thanks for the cons and tips.
Thank you
Once I have my results from 23andme can I sue the raw data for other services online?
Yes, you can upload the raw data file to gedmatch.com, MyHeritage, and FamilyTreeDNA.
I tested with 23andme and I deleted my dna results. Reasons why
1 No Native American
2 No Egyptian
3 No Irish
4 No English
5 No Scottish
Basically they said my dad was full African but he's not. His Grandfather was Mixed Black/White. My Grandfather took a dna test with another company and got around 50% Native American. Another reason was I didn't have a lot of close matches. All my matches we're 2nd cousins once removed and 3rd-6th Cousins. My Grandfather's Grandmother is Egyptian and she was born in Alexandria Egypt.
No US Native American would show up because it doesn't appear in any DNA testing company results. Those tribes have not agreed to be tested. Any Native American in any company is not from the US but rather South or Central American or Canada.
No Egyptian, that section of the world in under represented.
If you lack Irish, English, or Scottish, that is surprising since those groups are decently represented in the reference populations.
With that being said, your experience is why I recommend not taking DNA tests for the ethnicity results. Instead, use genetic genealogy companies to build your family trees using DNA+Record research. It will be much more accurate.
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics The APP is not available to download on Playstore for european countries.
Thanks for the info.
You're welcome.
I like their DNA Timeline that shows me when various DNA is added to my Ancestors.
That is a cool feature.
Specifically about Neanderthal DNA:
In 1997 a group of researchers at the Leipzig Max Planck Institute fot Human Genetics started a project on analyzing Neanderthal DNA, without much hope of ultimate success. They wanted to get a full genome of the Neandertha, just like we had for humans. Unfortunately, DNA doesn't last too very long in the wild, but they had hopes. The team leader, a Swede named Svante Paabo, decided to pick the dangling fruit first: try to sequence mitochndrial DNA. There's a lot more of it than nuclear DNA, and its only a single circular chromosome of 16,595 base pairs coding for 23 genes. It is inherited in all life using sexual reproduction only from the mother. The analysis was published and showed no sharing of DNA between modern humans and the Neaderthals. This was commonly interpreted that there was no sharing of any DNA. In 2006 SVante and the team started working on nuclear DNA, first trying to extract some and then building the DNA model. In May 2010 was published the papder that surprosed everyone. Not only had they succeeded in establishing the genome, but found that there was deinfite sharing in all modern humans excepting those whose ancestry never left Africa at all. This pointed a smoking gun at the middle East.
So the Neanderthals died out 30,000 years ago. All but that part of them that is us.
"They wanted to get a full genome of the Neanderthal, just like we had for humans"
homo neanderthalensis were humans
Yeah. I presume you know what I mean.
Did you see this video? ruclips.net/video/Jqd4XWqKTwo/видео.html
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics Thank you for pointing that out, Andy.
I'd like to ask your opinion of this new upstart company doing testing, CRIGenetics. It appears to me they are all marketing - they flooded google with their ads, including some that claim to be from independent DNA test claims testing firms, their 4-minute YT commercial is a masterpiece of obfuscation. I was totally turned off by the fact that they will test your DNA but not give you access to the download for GEDMatch use. But I'd like a second opinion.
The thing that I really hated about 23 and me was it added ancestry that I don't have. Two of my ancestral countries have been traced back to the 1600s and even the 1500s, so I know about them. The third has been traced back to the 1800s. None of them have this country. Yes, it possible there was infidelity, but Ancestry is more in line with the paper genealogy. FTDNA also has an ancestral country that I have no relatives from. I don't understand how the hell this happened with two different companies, but it did.
Hi Lee, I watched your video on 120 ancestors (very well explained, thank you!), and I'm a little curious how then the neanderthal variants from 23andMe can be counted upon if this people group lived so very long ago, way way past the realm of generations that would equal the 120 ancestors of which we have DNA.
After the Neanderthal-Modern Human interbreeding, there have probably been some genetic bottlenecks within the outside of Africa populations which fixed the Neanderthal DNA in the population.
CRI told me where my Indian tribe I came from. 23&me and Ancestry DNA didn't just that I had some Indian. All 3 we're talking this year. I am very happy with CRI. They have there own private labs. They go back farther to .
I would be highly suspect of the Indian tribe they recommend as few US Native tribes are part of any genetic genealogy companies. If you're interested in why I don't recommend CRI Genetics for serious genetic genealogists, check out this video ruclips.net/video/XEwSfmHTP-Q/видео.html
Dear Family History Fanatics:
In September, I went with LivingDNA because of the main companies that shipped to the Czechia, they sounded best suited for my interests (accurate ethnicity reports, plus mtDNA and yDNA reports). 23andMe offered all that plus "chromosome painting" and Neanderthal ancestry reports, yet according to all my info, didn't ship their kits here. But Sunday, I asked their "Customer Care" if they would ever do so, and they displayed a vastly expanded countries-we-ship-to list, which includes "Czech Republic". So now that I know I have this option, and their Holiday sale is on until Christmas, I'm considering giving them a shot.
I know of someone who has tested with many companies. His LivingDNA ancestry report is very similar to mine (his African is 2.1% higher, his European is 2% lower, and his South Asian is 0.1% lower than my East Asian), and is his lowest African/highest European report.
MyHeritage gave him his highest African/lowest European estimate (his African is 5.6% higher, and his European is 4.2% lower, than on LivingDNA's, and his South Asian is 0%).
On his 23andMe report, his African is 1.5% higher, and his European is 1.6% lower, than on LivingDNA, and his South Asian is replaced by East Asian & Native American 0.8%, Western Asian & North African 0.1%, and Unassigned 0.6%.
According to him, 23andMe and FTDNA give the most accurate estimates. We agree that LivingDNA nearly certainly misread our Native American markers as East/South Asian. What's your take on all this? Do you think I'd get similarly varying estimates from these companies.
Also, does 23andMe's chromosome painting tell which traits any of these chromosome segments determine?
Ethnicity/Admixture/Heritage results are estimates at best and always will be, because you didn't inherit equal amounts of DNA from all of your ancestors. I don't think that any company can really claim to have the most accurate ethnicity estimates, because I don't know that there is any way to tell.
For 23andMe's traits, they tell you where on a chromosome it is, but if you wanted to merge that with your ethnicity/admixture results, you would have to manually map that out.
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics Thank you for replying.
It seems you misunderstood my last question. I meant: Does chromosome painting indicate which PHENOTYPE traits (body size/shape, skin/eye/hair pigmentation, blood factors, etc) any chromosome and/or chromosomal segment determines? For example, does it indicate that one has Nilotic markers on the maternal, body build segment, and Scottish/Irish markers on the maternal, skin pigmentation segment?
Genetics as a tool of genealogy hasn't really matured yet and genetic testing results, while interesting, should be taken with a grain of salt. I first submitted a sample to AncestryDNA and then later to 23 and Me. (I was attracted to the idea of finding out whether I had Neanderthal genes or not....) Initially, Ancestry DNA had me at 72% Greek-Italian (I guess based on their sample size, they put Italians, Greeks, and those in the Balkans as one group). With both parents from Sicily-Italy, that seemed reasonably close. It then said that my genetic make-up was 13% Middle Eastern and 8% Caucasian (likely Turkey). They've since changed it to 77% Italian (I guess their sample groups grew enough to differentiate), Greece and the Balkans 5%, Turkey and the Caucus was up to 15%. Middle Eastern was down to 3%. OTOH, 23 and me 95.8% European (77% Italian, 7% Balkan, and another 10% "broadly Southern European" - does not include Turkey), and only 3.9% Western Asian and North African. The only thing that surprised me was not to see much of any Northern European mixed in there. Though my family is Southern Italian, we mostly have blue eyes, medium to light complexions, and a decent percentage of blondes in the family. I would've expected to see the legacy of the Barbaric, Frankish, and Moorish invasions of Italy represented in my genetic make-up, but apparently it doesn't go that far back.
I think you mistake ethnicity/admixture results with genealogy. Genetics for genealogy does not need to be taken with a grain of salt. It is rock solid. While still young, it is more the development of tools and techniques that push the limit of what genetics can tell us about the people we are related to (i.e. cousin matching).
All of the examples you gave are ethnicity/admixture results which are fine at the continental level but shouldn't be relied upon for the smaller regions.
They have the largest sampling size & only report things on confidence levels unlike other companies that can "report things". MOST accurate results for me. But no company can give u precise results
Agreed. 23andMe's reference population contains the largest number of samples, although MyHeritage and LivingDNA don't give you exact numbers. Although even then, only the European component has several thousand in the reference population. The Oceania one only has 40 or 50 if I remember right.
I also like the confidence level indicator, although for my results it doesn't change a whole lot.
I know right! Ancestry uses 100-200 samples per country. My heritage & familytreedna gave me inaccurate results. A guy from my heritage that I emailed even said that they don't have as many samples as the other companies
If you are looking for accuracy in ethnicity/admixture results, it is not going to happen with any company on anything more than a continental or macroregional level. The size of the reference populations just doesn't allow it.
Family History Fanatics Hi, I have question to ask you if you don't mind. I find 23andme accurate with Southern European DNA results. For the reason, that compared to Ancestry it seems they aren't so accurate with Southern European DNA. To begin with, I have seen and know many people who have tried with both DNA companies and most of the time when they get Italy/Greece from Ancestry it turns out less Italian or Greek. But, with 23andme especially, with Hispanics who have tried with both of them. For instance, there is a video in RUclips of a Portuguese guy that got 40% Italy/Greece and only 10% Iberian. But, then he tried it with 23andme and it turned out that his Iberian was actually 69% and his Italian was only 5%. He got totally different results and he said that he feels that 23andme was spot on accurate with his Iberian. Since all his Ancestors where Portuguese descent and not Italian from both his paternal and maternal grandparents on both parents side of the family. Besides, that Ancestry won't confirm if your actually Italian or Greek which can be confusing since its labeled in one category unless you know that your family is actually of Italian or Greek descent or half. Moreover, I understand the history of the romans invaded Iberian Peninsula and ruled it at one point but it was mostly their culture they left behind more so then rather mixing with the native Iberians. Which did not impact the Iberian gene pool enough to cause a big change in today present of Spanish or Portuguese people. If anything the Italics mixed but, it's less then the minority that impacted the Iberian Peninsula. On the other hand, I believe it was actually the Celtics that impacted the Iberian Peninsula gene pool. Which are referred as Celtiberians. From what I read and learned about the history of the Iberian Peninsula. I'm not a expert but, I know enough to a certain degree. Furthermore, I feel that overall 23andme has a better accuracy with Southern European DNA results. Finally, what is your take on this and which do you feel is more accurate with Southern European which I do understand that all DNA companies are not accurate enough to give you perfect DNA results. But, referring to Hispanics who get a higher degree of Italy/Greece and less Iberian with Ancestry. But, vice versa they get high Iberian and low Italian with 23andme. Thank you for your time hope you can answer my question.
Not at all! I got 75.5% Italian & 10.4% broadly southern European. Ancestry is so bad with Southern European DNA & I come out more Arabic on ancestry than on 23&me (Italians have invaded the Middle East besides middle easterners invading Italy). 23&me is the most ACCURATE due to their largest sample size, but no company in terms of ethnicity is PRECISE
i have never tested my DNA with 23 and me! however I would like to.
Did you take their test?
They changed the results and took out the British and Irish and Balkan and Greek percentages from my ancestry. I gave tests for my mom and dad and share with them, but my brother has his results private and my Ancestry DNA has my autosomal results and the results of my parents and sister-in-law that I manage. They also took the British and Irish and trace of Native American and European Jewish out of my results. 23 and Me seems to be the most precise in matching to geographic locations I know my family is from. My Heritage considers Czechoslovakia and Poland part of the Balkans and Baltic and Italian DNA I guess because it was part of the Roman Empire and Austro-Hungarian empire.
Our DNA ethnicity estimates aren't what we think. Here's a video explaining what I mean. ruclips.net/video/u8lMfGqSrwg/видео.html
great video thanks. is it possible to send 2 examples, one of me and one of my mother? wouldnt that make research even easier and more precise? just being curious:)
Yeah, just order two test kits. Under my 23andMe account, I manage more than 20 samples from grandparents to children to in-laws, and so on. Having a parent and child kit linked allows for some phased matching so that you can separate out what line (either your mother or your father's) the match is on.
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics some Guy did 23 and me. And he found out he's Ancestry from different parts of the world
FYI, 23&Me has added a tree. It's pretty basic, but it does give you a graphical view of your connections.
Answered on FHFLive: ruclips.net/video/pVml0P134wE/видео.html
Sent Ancestry DNA $75 two years received test kit. Followed instruction to the letter. Mailed it in NEVER received results. Have tried many times to contact them. Results no longer a working number. Any ideas.
Reach out to Ancestry them through social media and as for contact number. That's all we can suggest.
So I did my kids test on 23andme and it was weird because one of my kids and my brother had common relatives that my other son didn't then both of my sons were related to someone that my brother wasn't so I don't think me and my brothers are full siblings anymore so I did 23andme and ancestry also waiting on results
Is it better than FTDNA’s chromosome painting? Mytrueancestry is the only chromosome painting that I’ve seen that really tells you anything
I would like to find out about my root.
My last name was given to a not blood related great grandparent. I can’t find out anything about my blood related grandpa because he didn’t marry my grandma and died while I was a kid, so did my dad and his mom. So I feel rootless. I can’t map out my own ancestry tree. I want to know my heritage.
The information I have is bits and pieces from my mom. When she was younger, she didn’t reveal this to me. Now her memory isn’t as sharp as before but she told me my blood great grandfather was a westerner. But in my memory, I don’t see obvious features on father that shows except slightly lighter hair which only my sister and I also had when we were children. And most of my 20s-30s, my complex was fairer than the others. I am Asian.
But because my country was colonized by Spain, Portugal, and influenced by Netherland. I do know a friend of mine with very light brown eyes with features as normal Taiwanese. And he told me that his eye color is cross generation featuring his Spanish ancestors.
I would like to test if my gene contains gene of Spanish or any of the colonizing country and I would also like to find relatives in the world. But I don’t like to use reference markers which using comparing with others to “guess” where my ancestors might be from.
Which gene test company service would you suggest me to use?
Also there’s another channel in collaboration with VOX talking about how dangerous it is to do gene test. What’s your opinion on that?
Thank you for your time
I won't take on Vox but here's my views on whether DNA testing is safe ruclips.net/video/ThcgOWQxYqM/видео.html
As for which test, as funds allow, test with all of the genetic genealogy companies, particularly Ancestry and 23andMe and transfer that DNA to MyHeritage and FamilyTreeDNA. You never know where your relatives tested. Then begin working with close DNA matches to filter to your unknown line and you'll learn a lot. Ignore the ethnicity estimates because they won't really be helpful, actually more confusing, than any other research tool.
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics
Thanks for your reply. So you mean I can choose either of the two companies for the test.
Do they all have the transfer service or I should purchase two more services from MyHeritage and FamilyTreeDNA?
I'm not sure what you mean by a tree, but I'm currently going through the process of building my own family tree on 23&Me. The site provides a rough tree form and insert close relatives somewhere in the tree. You fill in the gaps between yourself and those people, as well as you can. My frustration with the site is not their fault, but the fault of the members. I was able to list many last names and places of birth. I am second generation American. Almost no one puts any information at all in that place.
This video was created in 2017. They didn't have a good way to build their family tree. In 2019, the added the ability to build a family tree using the help of FamilySearch, that was covered in this video ruclips.net/video/Cr-afpQNSrk/видео.html
Is 23andMe better then the nat geo one?
Depends on what you want to do.
I want my moneys worth and a lot of info for further research.
I have 3 kits with them and they don't upgrade it. Customer service doesn't help.A total waste of money.
What are you trying to upgrade to?
What are you trying to get out of 23andMe?
I have made a few other videos about 23andMe that might interest you. ruclips.net/p/PLcVx-GSCjcdnuu078hljTIV9v6Ndf1pBn
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics As far as I know they upgraded the african ancestry population and others.I didn't receive any new information on my ancestry report.
Good review
It's very helpful. I researched the DNA testing companies and choose 23andme.
Got the results. Nothing showing for France on their map. WHAT? Apparently the ancestor we thought was French was Irish and adopted. 99.06% Irish/British looked right. The other 0.04%? Iranian. It seems farmers from that area migrated to Ireland hundreds of years ago.
Had both DNA and Health reports done. Happy with them. However, a little week with Customer Service.
Thank you
I was adopted... I have Mucular Dystrophy (Charcot-Marie-Tooth)...is there a DNA test that could lead me to anyone in the past that had it.
Charcot-Marie-Tooth is caused by a duplication of a large section of DNA on Chromosome 17 (from Wikipedia). I don't think that any of the genealogy testing companies test for this type of genetic anomaly.
I just signed up. I do like the detailed opt-in's since they are selling my data.
I do plan on porting my data FTDNA and later doing y&mt tests as well and using other sites for analysis.
I'll check which videos you have on this channel shortly but the question I have right now is ...
Has anyone does two tests back to back or a few months apart and received different results for particular SNP's or chromosome. In other words what is the error rate of the sequencing machines?
Chris Telting you ever get that answer??
I tested my DNA with the same company, without their knowledge. Discover what I learned here ruclips.net/video/bj2KCzW44qU/видео.html
I'm thinking to make this test, do you know if mtdna analysis is included? I think in that case would be the more complete and affordable test 😮
The 23andMe does look at mitochondrial DNA to provide your haplogroup.
Good Question. NO, 23andme do NOT provide detailed MTdna other than about the 9 daughters of eve. Their male is similarly very board. My yTdna at 23andme is in a group that is 20% of the English population. At Family TRee DNA, at 111 Markers I have 8 matches. Down at 67 I have several hundred matches. You don't get that at 23andme
I am plannng to purchase a kit from 23 and me to finally get a test done. Andy, are you on Wikitree? Wikitree is wonderful for both genealogy and for DNA matches. Also have you uploaded your raw data to GEDmatch as well? Wikitree dot com. Its a great place to post your tree, its free and I love it!! There is a steep learning curve, but once you get past that, then you are good to go.
Not on wikitree, I do most of my research/record keeping on FamilySearch Family Tree.
Yes, I have been on GEDmatch since I first took a DNA test.
Does 23AndMe show you a family tree of relatives and cousins along with the ethnicity? I’ve been looking around the internet and I haven’t been able to find anyone referencing a family tree option for 23AndMe. If there is an option for that, i would be extremely grateful if you could educate me regarding this.
23andMe allows you to link a tree but doesn't build a tree on their platform.
I ordered my kit last Sunday, it has come but I haven't sent it back yet. Mostly, I'm curious to see how much Neanderthal I got. It will also be interesting to see if what the Family always said the ancestors came from was true.
Take a sample of your dog's dna and it will come back as Scandinavian and European. For $200 the cost of 1 kit at 23andme, you can get 4 family finder kits with better origin information or , one family finder with real full sequence maternal dna that you will never see at 23andme who are just as likely to destroy your sample if you complain about their service.
Did you see this video? ruclips.net/video/Jqd4XWqKTwo/видео.html
New to genealogy, so I️ have what is a stupid question. If my brother tested and got Y chromosome information from our father and genetic information from our mother. Being a female, is there any advantage to having my dna tested?
Yes, but not from a Y-DNA perspective. The Y-DNA is only one of the 46 chromosomes. Both you and your brother have unique sets of the other chromosomes. If your brother did an autosomal test (FamilyFinder, 23andMe, AncestryDNA, MyHeritage), then your results will have some overlap with his, but will also have some differences. In essence, by having both of you test, you are preserving a larger portion of your parents DNA to potentially match with distant cousins.
Your brother, being male, could not take the mtDNA test, which is only passed from mother to daughter. If you're interested in your mother's line, you can include the mtDNA test and you will get new information not available to your brother.
WRONG! Everybody, male or female, has mitochondrial DNA from their biological mother
Exactly FHF. You share exactly 23 chromosomes with either parent, and about 23 with your sibling
Here is another mystery I just noticed. I see one match on X who shares 62 matches in common and another person 47. The average is probably under 10. What does this mean?
That they may be distantly related.
I'm kinda confused about something; I went to Ancestry. com and see they want a monthly membership.. i just want to have my DNA done and get a report. of my heritage.
Ancestry DNA tests are a gateway to the past. Your ethnicity report will change as Ancestry updates it's database regularly and discoveries new information about people from various regions around the world. In short, you can get your ethnicity report but it is not final and will likely keep changing and AncestryDNA learns more. It won't be done.
The monthly rates will help you see how you're related to living individuals who have the same DNA as you. If you know some or all of your family tree, linking that to your DNA is beneficial to other researchers.
I like FamilyTreeDNA first, then 23andme, then lastly AncestryDNA.
why?.. what are the reasons???????
I don't want to slander anyone.
Slander? This is supposed to be opinions. Share with us your objective reasons and others can analyze it for themselves.
My daughter in law had three 5th cousin matches on there two years ago. Now she has 12 5th cousin matches, what a waste.
A disguised referral for 23andme which does NOT rate a comparison to FamilyTreeDna... Another blatant promotion for 23andme by google trolls
I was a bit disappointed with myheritage as they did not give me much info so I decided to try 23andme. Hope they can give me more accurate details about my ancestry.
MyHeritage is the latecomer and they are desperately trying to play catchup. Personally, I think they should have stayed with their partnership they had with 23andMe and leveraged that better.
+Family History Fanatics I'm seriously considering testing with 23andMe but before I do, I wanted to ask your very knowledgeable opinion. So...I and my sibling (brother) are half brothers through our mother, which is what we're sure of. Our father is what we're unsure of. My mother said she's solidly sure that we're half siblings siblings, but does agree she's not 100% sure...I recently saw a commercial about half-siblings that discovered they were related through 23andMe (Assuming because I've really been searching online) and yet they were only had 20% genetically similar? I'm confused...Isn't it supposed to be 50%? Because you're 'HALF SIBLINGS'? What I wanted to do is kinda "double dip" withOUT having to go to a DNA center and also getting our genetic ancestry...So, do you know if it would tell us whether we ARE full siblings via our father? We'd both be sending our kits at the same time because I'll be paying for his.
Half siblings on average share about 25% of DNA (so 20% is in the right ballpark). Yes, the 23andMe DNA tests will tell you whether you are half or full siblings (although for half siblings it may report it as uncle/nephew or grandparent/grandchild).
THANK YOU!!!
23andme are junk. Do the family finder and Ytdna at FamilyTReedna to see that you do in fact match on Ytdna as well as the Family Finder. 23andme are disreputable and engage in fraudulent business practices and sell your personal info to medical companies. Don't be stupid, test with other than 23andme
I have 267 variants of Neanderthal DNA.
Simple question. Can they find my Y chromosome ??? I phoned my dad and brother but they pass for a DNA test So I am the only one. I mailed them for an answer to this topic but got no answer so far. I need to have my Haplo groups too and the 23rd chromosome pair. I am all new in this, help is needed. Thanks and best regards from Belgium :)
23andMe and Living DNA will test SNPs in your Y DNA as well as mtDNA and report your haplogroup along with the autosomal testing they do. Family Tree DNA has separate Y-DNA STR tests, Y-DNA SNP tests, mitochondrial tests and autosomal tests.
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics Thank you, buddy. Was just reading about the markers in y-dna. I ordered a test at 23andMe and am checking now Familytree DNA. The prize depends on the number of markers. Checking also a company named LivingDNA. Also important is that you can download the RAW files to compare with gedmatch and others. For most ancestors I amalready in the early 1500s .
i am very disappointed with this company i cant enter my subscription for months even that "THEY SEND ME A NEW PASSWORD" and lately they not even send a password BAD very bad 0 stars for this company
They have a common ancestor from Africa period.. was no mating going on.. the similarities were developed separately.. even the scientist who first found them says so😎
Perhaps
Why do I only have 2 matches?
2, that's it?
You must have some unique DNA. I have never seen less than 800 matches from anyone on 23andMe.
Family History Fanatics oops, I did ancestry. Any differences about that?
That is even more puzzling. Ancestry tends to have thousands of matches for each person (because they have the largest database).
Why don't you talk about National Geographic Geno 2.0?
Because I read on many reviews/sites that this test is often more expensive but don't give the best results. Not very accurate. Not a good database. etc. Each time, it was said to chose another one.
it was a waste of money for me. I did it like five years ago, but since then there haven't been many improvements. I did ancestryDNA earlier this year and loved everything about it. Now I'm waiting for my 23andme results.
Because I already did ruclips.net/video/YMz3eEt3iDU/видео.html
What happens if I send them strawberry DNA?
The companies will likely have flags that trigger odd DNA. Have you seen this video? ruclips.net/video/bj2KCzW44qU/видео.html
Just a tip: please stay still or get a different mic. I can't handle the constant sounds of something rubbing against it so I don't watch. I want to, though! It's easy to fix!
I'll try.
I sent in dog dna , results say I’m 51.24 Scandinavian. How’s that now? Recorded Family tree is from England. And ITS DOG DNA!!!!!!!!! Do I get a refund? Side note I answered all my questions attentive to Scandinavian Lineage as provided by the internet.
I'd call the company to get my money back.
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics How you get your dog to spit in a tube?
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics If you eat meat, don't you get the DNA from the meat you eat in the sample you send in.
That sounds part of the norm for 23andme. Their object is to SELL your data permanently to medical companies. As do Ancestry and myheritage. The only company that does not have gutter ethics is familytreedna where the serious researchers go.
@@ramj9309 A dog is not going to spit in a tube for you or allow you to swab their cheek. Charity is lying and you are foolish enough to believe her. However I doubt you really believe her if you ever did a DNA test. You are just using her foolish comment for your own agenda. as far as them using our DNA to deny heretical. Why not just deny everyone as we all have something wrong with us and something is going to kill us eventually. Just say no one can get healthcare because eventually some health issue will kill them. That makes as much sense.
I wonder what relationship there is between Neanderthal and Rh negative blood -- If there is one
I did a video about Rh- and DNA testing ruclips.net/video/wmAzLKptQpM/видео.html
Listened to your video on dna companies and %ges explained a lot 3% swedish dads family from scotland and great briton is overlapping ...i choose ancestry dna it does not explain much of the results
DNA matches is where the results are truly useful.
They have tree now
Not quite like Ancestry and MyHeritage yet.
23andMe are a joke, They lump the middle east from the Gulf to Morocco 5000 km as one group! But they claim they can differentiate between Spaniards, Italians, Greeks and other regions in Europe.
How could the Gulf states be unrelated to Iraq, Syria but in the same time Berbers in Algeria and Morocco 5000 km away are in the same group as Gulf Arabs??
This is a joke
*They claim to have increased the regions to 120 but they Joined Arabia with North Africa knowing that Berbers aren't Arabs*
If someone can explain to me why they have done that
My guess is because they don't have large enough samples in their database from those regions. When more Berbers and Arabs test, they'll be able to narrow it down more. But like Andy has said, the claim that they CAN differentiate between different western European countries isn't always accurate either. They do that based on genetic traits. So for example, there is a specific gene that causes people to have red hair. Many people in Ireland have red hair (and thus that gene) but so do people from other parts of Europe. 23&Me associates the red hair gene to Irish ancestry, so if someone with red hair tests, they'll likely be told they have Irish ancestry, even if they don't actually.
I agree. Their regions are based on national boundaries as opposed to PCA charts.
When it comes to Europe their regions are so simplistic.
Here are the errors: 1) Finland is placed in Northwest Europe. Finns cluster nowhere near English, Dutch, Flemish, Germans, Irish, Scots, Welsh, Orcadians, and French. Finland should be in Eastern Europe.
2) France and Germany is ridiculous sub region. While the French are genetically Western European, they plot much further South than Germans, Dutch, and Flemish. People of Corsica are not related at all to this region. Some Corsicans cluster alongside Tuscans, while others cluster with Sardinians. Corsica should be in the Southern European region. French Basques are placed in this region. All Basques cluster together, well away from Germany, and the Low Countries. Austrians should be divided between Austrians_Tirol, and Austrians. Austrians_Tirol cluster with South Germans, and Swiss, but as PCA charts, and LivingDNA point out Austrians cluster with Czechs, and Hungarians. LivingDNA place East Austria in the Pannonia region (centered on Hungary), which is part of the greater Eastern European region.
3) Their placement of Ashkenazi Jews in Eastern Europe is culturally correct, yet genetically incorrect. A study of genetics proves that Ashkenazi Jews cluster with Southern Europeans (especially Southern Italians), and people of the Middle East (especially people of the Levant, Armenia, Georgia, Azerbaijan, and Cyprus). Ashkenazi who have Sephardi ancestry often cluster near Saudis, North Africans, and by default West Iberians ( Western Spaniards, Galicians, and Portuguese ) as they have a strong North African genetic influence.
4) While their Balkan region is geographically correct, it is genetically incorrect. Greeks and Albanians cluster near Southern Italians, Tuscans, and Northern Italians, and should be part of Southern Europe. Romanians, Bulgarians, Serbs, Croats, Macedonians, Bosnians, and Slovenians all plot to the north of Northern Italians. Croats cluster near Hungarians, and Slovenes. They even have an overlap with East Austrians.
23andme should redefine their regions and base them on PCA charts, like Living DNA do.
I think their regions should be: Northwest Europe: United Kingdom (further broken down), and Eire; Scandinavia; France (further broken down); Northwest Germany and Benelux; Southern Germany, Switzerland, and Austria_Tirol; East Germany.
Eastern Europe: Finland, Estonia, Karelia, and the Saami lands; Baltics (Latvia, and Lithuania); Western Russia; East-Central Europe (Poland, Belarus, Ukraine), Danubia (Austria_East, Hungary, Czechia, and Slovakia), East Balkan (Romania, Bulgaria, Moldova, Montenegro, Macedonia, Kosovo, and Serbia), and West Balkan (Slovenia, Croatia, and Bosnia).
Southern Europe: Basque, West Iberia, East Iberia, Sardinia and South Corsica, Tuscany and North Corsica, Northern Italy, Southern Italy, Malta, Aegean (Greece, and Albania). Unlike LivingDNA (since 2020), I believe Cyprus should be in the Middle Eastern region.
Ashkenazi which would be a cross between Southern Europe and Southwest Asia (read: Middle East).
Sounds like the mic is in his armpit
Or his butt!
Perhaps, so why did you listen?
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics I was not, it's was unpleasant .
There is a tree now
I did cover this topic with our channel members ruclips.net/video/ZLSPcJR3YmM/видео.html
I WATCHED IN YOU TUBE THIS FILIPINO GIRL WHO DID DNA TEST WITH 23 AND ME..HER RESULT WAS 99% FILIPINO AND AUSTRONESIAN, YET HER FEATURES WERE FINE WITH FAIR SKIN OF NORTH ASIA AND FINE FACIAL FEATURES..PLUS FILIPINOS HAVE BEEN MIXING WITH SPANIARDS SINCE 1500..AT LEAST I EXPECT 30% NORTH ASIA AND 70% FILIPINO AND AUSTRONESIAN..CLEARLY 23 AND ME IS VERY INADEQUATE
Actually, I don't expect most companies to be extremely accurate for Asian countries. The reference populations that our DNA is compared to is fairly small for these regions. If more Asians take DNA tests and are incorporated into the reference database, then the results will likely change.
imo Living Dna is way better than 23 and me. its not well known but it breaks down dna exactly to the country and parts of it especially your uk ancestry it will tell you what part of the uk you're from. its a lot more detailed and doesnt have that shitty broadly whatever ancestry that 23 and me pulls on you. like saying your 40 percent broadly something. living dna actually has way more detail
More detail does not equate to more accuracy. LivingDNA hasn't released what the size of their reference population is. 23andMe, Ancestry, and FamilyTreeDNA have. 23andMe's reference population set is about twice the size of the other two. It's still too small to give accuracy on a country level.
Size of the database isn't the "problem" here. The fact that people make babies across the border (and sometimes those borders getting moved around...) is
No one has into dna research uses this relatively unknown company that you are promoting.
OMG, Another blatant advert for 23andme that youtube use to promote myheritage, two companies that go to the bottom of my list and I'm a customer at both.
I sure do wish that 23andMe and MyHeritage would start paying me for these adverts I put together for them.
I have a question for you that I would deeply appreciate you answering and that is this. I found out in 2009 3 days after he passed away that the man who raised me was not my biological father. I had a DNA test done by our University -- as at that time-- they were hugely expensive and were the only available way. Anyways, my "alleged" father is dead and his children are not receptive of me. So I did a ancestry dna test here a few weeks ago, when I get my results back will it show "Potential" family members from my alleged father's side if they have had testing done through the same website? thanks so much.
Absolutely. It will show them as half siblings. Or if there are close cousins they would show up to. If you have a sibling or cousin from your mothers side that had also tested, this would help to sort out which matches are from your biological father's side of the family.
Messaging svc is shit! You are quite right, Sir.
Thanks
What is chromosome painting? I never had a very scientific brain so I’m very dim to all this jargon, sorry.
For 23andMe that is when they show you the chromosomes with the ethnicity results overlaid so that you can see roughly where different parts of your genome came from.
we have such an untrustworthy government in the UnitedStates.. it is a big concern releasing anything - anywhere.
Then you probably shouldn't comment on the internet. Or even get on the internet.
internet does not share 'dna'.. smartass
But it shares your profile, and your IP address, and all the cookies on your computer, all of your browsing history, etc. Enough for a company like Google or Facebook or Amazon to make a pretty accurate profile of you. A lot more valuable than your DNA profile.
jimmythesaint
Why are you acting like such a douche? Also, what government is truly "trustworthy"? C'mon lets hear your answer. As if the US government is purposely releasing your info.
Are people still really puzzled as to why DNA is being collected? These companies are simply a testing ground for what’s to come. The explosion of fast loan companies with extortionate interest rates are by the governments design and the same with the explosion of online gambling companies, both of which enslave the people who can least afford to lose the little money they have as it is. DNA collection companies are by design by the same people. DNA collection will some day be by force, if it isn’t being collected already by stealth. The purpose? They will put everything about you onto the RFID chip you will be forced to take in your right hand, or your forehead, if you want to buy or sell. When that is global, then all of society will be enslaved. THAT is the end goal of the satanic forces that now rules this world.
Aaaaagh i wish i had watched this before i sent for my DNA kit:( So what use is a company where you dont have a tree and no one replies to your messages? I am already on other sites and thought this was going to enhance my research into my family and potentially give me a new contact who could break the brick wall - what a waste of money. as much use as a chocolate fireguard Grrrrrrrrrrr
"Great question and I can relate to the frustration.
Many people don't realize the ease of access to information that we have today. 20 years ago, if I wanted to find someone that I didn't already know some information on, it would be nearly impossible. Now, I can do it in an afternoon.
I just spent 20 minutes finding out who you were. Not stalking, just thought it would be a fun exercise to test my skills.
So, the usefulness of DNA matching without family trees and no replies is that you can find clues as where to search next. It's better than having no starting point."
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics it's 1 year on now and I've had only a few replies but no use whatsoever in making positive connections with relatives. Sad because I have a few decent matches that could break my brick wall
Early this year they found Neanderthal DNA in Africa as well.
Cool
Are we cousins? : )
Yes, at least a dozen different ways.
I’ll save everyone the 11 minuets. They are total garbage. If you don’t believe me call their customer support staff and see how you are treated.
I never had to call their customer support staff. The only hiccup I had was my first test came back unreadable and they send me a new kit to do the test again, no charge.
Good point. 23andme are abusive on the phone. They cancelled my sample that I paid for after I lodged a complaint. They also CANCELLED , Trashed a sample because it was sold by CVS over ebay, and Trashed another because it was mailed in from Canada. 23andme is an offensive company.
i was adopted, no paper.
That's a touch situation. Devon's grandmother was adopted and it's a challenging quest there as well.
#METOO
23 and Me is FAR better than Ancestry DNA. They were precise with their ethnicity results according to my own research that spans 500 years back. Ancestry were fairly off getting 50% of my ethnicity off or leaving it out entirely. FamilyTree likewise aren't very accurate. If you are looking for detailed ethnicity-23 and Me is the best company by far. Ancestry is good for finding 1000 6=8th cousins that you will not find the connection to. Not to mention Ancestry charges for a subscription...and not cheap either! For a company to campaign and heavily advertise based on ethnicity, Ancestry is the most general and vague....you will know more going into it then coming out of it.
Ethnicity results aren't always accurate. Check out this video for why ruclips.net/video/i70SZRW9t90/видео.html
Same here I knew it. Ancestry DNA isn't actually coming for me I've been waiting that's how I were paid for subscription. Then I'm about plan getting 23 and me is better. It is crazy
I have 23andMe, and after four years the APP still not available to download on Playstore for european countries. Its worse than ANCESTRY DNA.
No, is worst
Perhaps.
I heard Neanderthals are the most empathetic and psychic.
I thought the Navi were the most psychic?
???
Neanderthals were actually more advanced than their contemporary human counterparts. They have tools and technology humans of the time period did not. They were able to make a type of glue though a thermodynamic process that scientists even today cannot replicate on the level they did.
They also had the same genes and vocal cords required for speach.
think about it people why are these companies making these kits so available? Why are they pushing the availability, easy use of these kits?
Why are they getting people to take these DNA tests? Why are they so interested in getting people to take these tests?
These companies first got their funding from our government.
What do you think they do with the results, they send to you a print it if the results. But why do they keep the results on their computers? Do they give the results to our government?
You better believe they do. It's just another way if cataloging us just like the social security numbers do. Credit scores are another way to catalog us. Just are drivers licenses and is cards are.
The day is coming when money will be worthless and you will have to use debit and credit cards until they are replaced by another means of currency that can also be used for tracking and cataloging people.
There has been no evidence presented that any of the genealogical testing companies are sending our results to the government.
joan - You might want to try adding more fiber to your diet..... It may help to flush some of the cholesterol and paranoia out of your arteries.
joan bartlett I love a conspiracy nut. Nothing nefarious is going to happen to you if you do a home DNA test.
Easy there girl...step away from the Reynolds wrap!!
Uhhhh ... to make money? And, no, they don't give the results to the government. Else you'd be able to prove it. Paranoia of all the rest of the world is so self-defeating.
Think about it. Indeed.