True Mr. Goodman! I have bought another unit in April 2021 and the Pitch works just fine! No dead zones. In my opinion, I think is just a Firmware issue since the pitch is Digital. My first unit was bought right on release back in August 2019 here in Germany. Has dead pitch range between ±7~8% :(
Now that they fixed the pitch.. how is the isolation? I'm thinking about buying them, but I'm kinda worried about how they would be at a party scene next to speakers.
It's been fine for me, but I do some isolation things just to be sure. But I did that with my MK2s too... the whole concrete slab + foam underneath the decks. That's for spinning genuine vinyl records. For timecode, it doesn't seem to matter as much though.
Silent update. Man those are the worst if you have one of the old models. Makes you feel shafted, though I didn’t buy one of these and I would’ve personally even been ok with the faulty pitch, but still. Very cool though
Thanks... yeh, I've got one old model and one new (fixed) model... and I'm just kinda thinking... well... in practice I'll never actually feel that difference, and maybe one day the pitch faders on both of them will need replacing, and then they'll both be good from there. Other option is to try and get a replacement, but seriously it's no big deal. One thing I forgot to mention though is the new model didn't come with the scratch sample record like my first model did.
both of my units have this issue... it took me a while to realize as i was just learning how to mix but a year in if i know it's somewhere between 6 and 8 i just hit the x2 for accuracy. it does suck when you need to match a track and it falls somewhere between 12% and 16%... sometimes it falls into place but usually it will just be a bouncy non-linear mess especially when both records are on that range. i only just now built the courage to message the stores asking about warranty lol hopefully the pitch can be replaced.
If the pitch can be replaced by itself, def let me know! I think everyone would be interested to know what happens. Last time I spoke to my rep at the dj shop I go to, it was just kind of like an "it is what it is" sort of thing.
I just got a pair and noticed 1st one is fine, but 2nd one is showing 8% at 7.5% just a little off Any ideas on how fix this? Thanks Mine were shipped directly from Technics Wherehose this month.
I don't think it's fixable by the user. Or if it is, I'm not aware of the method. I have a pair also, and on one the pitch is fine. On the other, I reach 8% near the 7% mark. Similar discovery as yourself.
I wonder if your stylus setup is affecting the results. The percentages aren't staying locked on screen. I'd try refit your stylus as from the video it looks like they're angled?
It's the same with different styli. From what I've read, this is what is described as the source of "wow and flutter". This is also why Serato DJ built an option in their software to counteract this, called "Anti-Drift"
Yeah, they can keep the digi pitch. I got lucky this year and bought a brand new boxed Mk5 and a mint M3D. Can’t fault them. The last true Jedis of the 1200 SL range.
Lucky, I was originally looking at a pair of MK5 too (a year or so ago), but the shop I was going to purchase from (Stokyo) ran out lol. They weren't brand new, but certified refurbished. Man, brand new MK5... crazy you were able to find it available.
Hi man, Question :D ... when you change the pitch on the mk7, how big or small are the "step change" in the bpms from Serato/Traktor? (I mean resolution) After testing the other turntables ,it appears that the difference between all of them and the mk2 its HIGH, i notice that on large mixes. For example ith the mk2 i can make increments from .02 in pitch, sometimes .03, 04 05, with the others, it ranges between .07 to 1. it doesnt seem to much, but it really is. With the mk5g i also get this type of resolution from the digital pitch. but what about the MK7??? :D (in serato i get weird reading, not too stable, it seems that traktor tracks better, for a small margin or Maybe its my Computah.)... Frohe Ostern!!!
So... I have 2 mk7. On my newer one, the step changes follow the written numbers on the pitch slider (2% marker = 2% change in pitch, etc). On my older mk7, this is true as well until you reach the 6% mark. If i remember correctly, at 6% the pitch is also 6. But when you move it to about 6.5, the pitch is actually 7, and then when you're at the 7 mark, the actual pitch is 8%.
@@DJFeelsGoodman i dont mean the range, for example, i move the pitch on the mk2 1/2 mm and the speed in traktor increments for example by .03 bpm ... thats what i mean, not the overall pitch range. :)
According to someone I talk to at my local DJ shop, Technics acknowledged the condition in earlier models, but they refused to admit that it was a "problem."
Hi man..i removed quartzt lock from the mk2, pitch readjusted and im reaching +-8 ...then i moved the range ro -6 to +10...now its much better for mixing. Im ready to install a switch with another crystal osc and o expect to reach -20 to -8 for scratching... i like the old ones cause the tuning potential.. and i have straight to arm and removable cables also :) ... maybe its better to by some vestax, but im in love with my 90's wheels :D ... greetings from germanyyyyy :)))
@@DJFeelsGoodman its like a sl 1200 mk1 ... when you pitch bend with your fingers the platter doesnt try to fight the speed. (decrease the speed of the platter with your finger and youll see that the platter push agains your finger force at intervals, with quartz lock removed it doesnt. It doesnt affect the torque, and of course you doesnt have the 0 pitch problem.) Its easy to do and reversible, so DO IT!! you have to recalibrate the pitch after the conversion...so again..DO IT!!!! :)
True Mr. Goodman!
I have bought another unit in April 2021 and the Pitch works just fine! No dead zones. In my opinion, I think is just a Firmware issue since the pitch is Digital.
My first unit was bought right on release back in August 2019 here in Germany. Has dead pitch range between ±7~8% :(
What year month is your turntable manufactured? I have gr made in 2022 June. It has pitch problem about you mentioned earlier model of MK7
I have one made in September 2020, and another unit made February 2020
@@DJFeelsGoodman thanks for quick replay did you get new one? Or did you get serviced? For fixing problem~
sabes si los circulos del plato fueron corregidos? ya que se presentan con cierta fluctuacion
Now that they fixed the pitch.. how is the isolation? I'm thinking about buying them, but I'm kinda worried about how they would be at a party scene next to speakers.
It's been fine for me, but I do some isolation things just to be sure. But I did that with my MK2s too... the whole concrete slab + foam underneath the decks. That's for spinning genuine vinyl records. For timecode, it doesn't seem to matter as much though.
do you know if the silver version also has this problem?
Not sure, but I would think so... if the silver one came later
@@DJFeelsGoodman Looked deeper into it - the silver ones are fine!
Silent update. Man those are the worst if you have one of the old models. Makes you feel shafted, though I didn’t buy one of these and I would’ve personally even been ok with the faulty pitch, but still.
Very cool though
Thanks... yeh, I've got one old model and one new (fixed) model... and I'm just kinda thinking... well... in practice I'll never actually feel that difference, and maybe one day the pitch faders on both of them will need replacing, and then they'll both be good from there.
Other option is to try and get a replacement, but seriously it's no big deal.
One thing I forgot to mention though is the new model didn't come with the scratch sample record like my first model did.
both of my units have this issue... it took me a while to realize as i was just learning how to mix but a year in if i know it's somewhere between 6 and 8 i just hit the x2 for accuracy. it does suck when you need to match a track and it falls somewhere between 12% and 16%... sometimes it falls into place but usually it will just be a bouncy non-linear mess especially when both records are on that range. i only just now built the courage to message the stores asking about warranty lol hopefully the pitch can be replaced.
If the pitch can be replaced by itself, def let me know! I think everyone would be interested to know what happens. Last time I spoke to my rep at the dj shop I go to, it was just kind of like an "it is what it is" sort of thing.
Where’s the video comparing the pitch controls with the mk2
Is its safe to say all the current ones(last few months) are correct/fixed. Like the new silver version?
I think so
why compare analog pitch to a DVS?
I just got a pair and noticed 1st one is fine, but 2nd one is showing 8% at 7.5% just a little off
Any ideas on how fix this?
Thanks
Mine were shipped directly from Technics Wherehose this month.
I don't think it's fixable by the user. Or if it is, I'm not aware of the method. I have a pair also, and on one the pitch is fine. On the other, I reach 8% near the 7% mark. Similar discovery as yourself.
There's a video below showing you how to manually reset the pitch to 0% if it's out...
m.ruclips.net/video/kGYXYUeMhgM/видео.html
I wonder if your stylus setup is affecting the results. The percentages aren't staying locked on screen. I'd try refit your stylus as from the video it looks like they're angled?
It's the same with different styli. From what I've read, this is what is described as the source of "wow and flutter". This is also why Serato DJ built an option in their software to counteract this, called "Anti-Drift"
Yeah, they can keep the digi pitch. I got lucky this year and bought a brand new boxed Mk5 and a mint M3D. Can’t fault them. The last true Jedis of the 1200 SL range.
Lucky, I was originally looking at a pair of MK5 too (a year or so ago), but the shop I was going to purchase from (Stokyo) ran out lol. They weren't brand new, but certified refurbished. Man, brand new MK5... crazy you were able to find it available.
@@DJFeelsGoodman there’s a brand new pair of 1210 MK5 on eBay now. He’s asking $11,000AUD
Hi man, Question :D ... when you change the pitch on the mk7, how big or small are the "step change" in the bpms from Serato/Traktor? (I mean resolution) After testing the other turntables ,it appears that the difference between all of them and the mk2 its HIGH, i notice that on large mixes. For example ith the mk2 i can make increments from .02 in pitch, sometimes .03, 04 05, with the others, it ranges between .07 to 1. it doesnt seem to much, but it really is. With the mk5g i also get this type of resolution from the digital pitch. but what about the MK7??? :D (in serato i get weird reading, not too stable, it seems that traktor tracks better, for a small margin or Maybe its my Computah.)... Frohe Ostern!!!
So... I have 2 mk7. On my newer one, the step changes follow the written numbers on the pitch slider (2% marker = 2% change in pitch, etc).
On my older mk7, this is true as well until you reach the 6% mark. If i remember correctly, at 6% the pitch is also 6. But when you move it to about 6.5, the pitch is actually 7, and then when you're at the 7 mark, the actual pitch is 8%.
@@DJFeelsGoodman i dont mean the range, for example, i move the pitch on the mk2 1/2 mm and the speed in traktor increments for example by .03 bpm ... thats what i mean, not the overall pitch range. :)
What month were your Mk7’s made ??
According to serial-number-decoder.com, my newer MK7 was made September 2020. My older one was made February 2020
Lucky times! haha
a fail by technics by acting that way, I just ordered Reloop 7000MK2, cant wait for it to arrive
Poor service by technics. They’ve denied there was an issue with early models when clearly there was.
According to someone I talk to at my local DJ shop, Technics acknowledged the condition in earlier models, but they refused to admit that it was a "problem."
@@DJFeelsGoodman
Yes. They said it was a feature 😂
LoL the heck haha
An optical illusion.
Astro sells refurbished garbage
Hi man..i removed quartzt lock from the mk2, pitch readjusted and im reaching +-8 ...then i moved the range ro -6 to +10...now its much better for mixing. Im ready to install a switch with another crystal osc and o expect to reach -20 to -8 for scratching... i like the old ones cause the tuning potential.. and i have straight to arm and removable cables also :) ... maybe its better to by some vestax, but im in love with my 90's wheels :D ... greetings from germanyyyyy :)))
Heya man, nice how does it feel with the quartz lock removed?
@@DJFeelsGoodman its like a sl 1200 mk1 ... when you pitch bend with your fingers the platter doesnt try to fight the speed. (decrease the speed of the platter with your finger and youll see that the platter push agains your finger force at intervals, with quartz lock removed it doesnt. It doesnt affect the torque, and of course you doesnt have the 0 pitch problem.) Its easy to do and reversible, so DO IT!! you have to recalibrate the pitch after the conversion...so again..DO IT!!!! :)
@@DJFeelsGoodmanhey...that was me..didnt switch accounts :)
ohoooo okay interesting lol
@@chrisvonderforst2653 what's it like beat matching on a mk1 compared to a mk2 ?
Check it again using the red strobe light
your stylus off center
Such a Newb!!! LoL