Finally glad after all these years to see someone actually make their own drawing, then loft the data, and I did not need to attend a class. Can't afford a class anyways. Excellent. Genius for sure. Can't wait to see the molds being constructed.
Hey Lou, Your lofting/layout/planning videos have been extremely helpful!! Many thanks to you and the crew who gets this stuff online! I am in the process of lofting of William atkin's "rescue minor" (a "seabright skiff" style hull) the offsets table had some missing measurements and numbers that needed some fudging...I was confused and quite frustrated, but you really came to the rescue with the dory series! I was able to fool with some drawings, pull some numbers, tweak some others and fill in the blanks. Everything is laying-out to full size beautifully, and with ease now. I can n't thank ya enough man, helpin me make my dreams a reality. Keep doin your thing!! Much love
During WW2 my Dad was a loftsman at New York ship on the Camden side of the Delaware River. Louis, your descriptive instruction and your massive drawing board so reminds me a of my youth. I spent many idle hours "drafting" on my Dad's huge drawing board at home.
As I come to the end of my decision making on the boat I'm going to build, I love viewing this boat build and the inspiration I get from it! Thanks Louis!
Really makes me appreciate the work and planning that goes into even a small boat. And I haven't heard anyone use the expression "plaguing" in many years. I'd forgotten how good of an expression it is.
What a Master Craftsman ! We are getting treated to the full apprenticeship. When this series is finished I'll be able to hang out a shingle "Boats Built Here. Trained by Louis Sauzedde". A brilliant video; 3D geometry clearly explained.
Enjoying watching this stage of the build. I'm a mechanical draftsman by trade with over 30 years experience. Sure miss drawing the old way on the drawing board rather than CAD. Computers have taken over so many of the old skills.
Lou , its a joy to watch and listen to you explain how you designed your dory. A question I have - how do you determine the maximum width of planking material you will need from the plans?
Agreed. I am good with numbers and angles, but this lesson really sprung my mind wide open to old-school drafting and lofting. I may even have a basic knowledge to read a boat lines drawing. Thank you sensei!
In the wee hours of the morning, watching the compressed time moves, my mind supplied kung-fu sound effects. I too find the hook and box on the tape to be plaguing me. Nice setup and prep. Pretty fair lines. All done with good reason. Beauty is everlasting.
Hi Louis Can you guys make the episodes a litle longer, 20 min pluss.I apriciate the effort that goes into make the videos. But i really like to open up youtube to see a new video from quality providers. But with a beer in hand, trying to relax after work 10 minutes is not enough. I enjoyed your last build series. Keep up the good work.Eirik
No drafting machine? Use Navigation parallels! I really love your channel, This was my childhood, I could count everybody that knew how to loft on one hand and now there is one more. But sad to say, this brings the living count to only two. :'( We called them Duck-weights, we had too make are own. We had a clinker small boat, can still remember how it talked to you as you pulled it thru the water. We had to scavenge the lead from under the fishing piers, not the safest thing to do off a open pier? Then there was even fewer that could caulk a boat. Recently my best friend passed, he was a Master machinist, he had 60+ years working metal, the first two years of his training was sweeping the floors of a machine shop, after six months he traded work for limited access to a few of the machines for his own play time. I say this because all of his knowledge was lost, I would like to praise you for passing it on! When I was a kid, two doors down from my house was a friend named Terry, he went to sea in the 1890. I recently am getting enough toys to start a channel to hopefully pass on a bit of mine, not sure if this is to pass on knowledge that could be lost or to justify my life to me? Sorry about PUSHING you down my memory lane! Oh, and a Badger hair brush of clean off the drafting board, a bit costly? Keep up the good work Hami
Hey Lou!!! What a great video. Thank you very much for all the amazing content, your channel is awesome!!! Could you please make a video explaining your method of bevel board. I'm struggling to understand how to build and use one. Thank you very much. All the best!
You're a walking encyclopedia of knowledge Lou.I hate to think what will happen to this knowledge when guys like you are gone.The George Jones song "Who's Gonna Fill Their Shoes" comes to mind.
Check out the channels for "Salt & Tar" , "Acorn to Arabella", and "Sampson Boat". All young designers and boat builders. The later two even did full floor lofts of their rather large wooden boats. The first two listed above are building their sailing yachts from scratch, and Leo at Sampson is rebuilding/refurbishing a well know 108-109 year old racing yacht named "Tally-Ho" (a 1910 Gaff Cutter). There are younger guys and gals out there building in mixed new and old ways. In fact, Tall-Ho has a brand new Purple-Heart keel, and Arabella has a new back=yard poured ~10 ton lead keel.
I enjoyed seeing this video in how the offsets are made/used. Not sure it applies to this build, but I'm curious in this process with larger boats when frames are cut with a bevel instead of squared cuts. I wonder if in a future video that can be explained since the bevel could change during the length of the frame. Can the bevel be figured out through the line drawings? Alternatively, if there's another video that could be referenced or from a book, I'm open to any info. Just interested in wooden boatbuilding and how it all comes together. Thanks.
A thought. Why not clamp a rule on either side of your loft table and run your straight edge up between them? You could even use a piece of aluminium angle with your tape segment attached perpendicular to the table to get marks that are right next to the paper. Not quite as accurate as a drafting machine, but probably a bit easier on you. Thank you for letting me into your workshop.
I've seen an older member of literally every craft in home building use a piece of a tape-measure. even seen one Mexican crew use a 35 footer to provide 5 guys with just over a six foot rule each. the crew "foreman" was the only guy who had a full tape-measure in its spring loaded case.
The top-down view of his drafting table looks like a huge analog version of Photoshop. He has the tool palette on the right (pencil tool, pen tool, paintbrush, line tool, and calipers) then he has the rulers on the top. I guess some things never change.
That's how Photoshop (1) was designed. To look exactly like a drafting table. It was inspired by a specific drafting table that came with graduations, tool holders (across the edges), pre-set and custom landscape points, etc. Can't remember the specific brand of drafting table tho, something British, 1880s.
Lou you might want to tell people about the ft - in - 1/8 I'm sure you have viewer's who don't know what you are talking about. I enjoyed the video , use to watch my Dad loft out boats on a sheet of plywood
A simple T-square and millimeters would make your amazing work so much easier and maybe more accurate... but, there is always more'n one way to skin a cat. Can't wait to see the boat take shape!
divide an odd number of millimeters by an even number and you no longer have a full millimeter of accuracy. If you take 161 millimeter dead rise and have to divide it for two boards and want them equal, how do you get an exact 80.5 millimeter reading on a metric rule with the millimeter being the smallest measure represented? At least in imperial we are used to our 1/4, 1/8, 1/16, 1/32, etc.., fractional system for dividing measurements when need be. Fractions are more accurate then decimals. in that every decimal has an equivalent fraction. However, there are exact measure fractions with no exact decimal equivalent. Example: what exact decimal is equivalent to 1/3, or 1/11? a repeating decimal (in both of these cases) has no final number, you have to round off to the nearest decimal at some point, ergo, not exactly accurate.
Well it's interesting to follow as I spent the Spring lofting my 21'2" Indian Class John G. Alden day sailing boat. Although I had the moulds with planking lines, some of the planks were 14" wide at the widest point meaning I would of needed wood stock well over 20+ inches due to the rise and in Finland it just isn't possible (on a budget) as I would have had to purchase expensive mahogany planking and it's crazy expensive and seeing as I haven't built a boat 'ever' if I mess up even one plank then I've destroyed 200€ of wood. So I'm using Finnish pine and the moulds are rounded so I can layout new planking lines on the moulds and use thinner local stock.
I just purchased 17 x 6.5m mänty venelauta from a local boat builder for 200€ but I recon I've no where near enough so I need more. I'll be sure to check them out. I nee iroko for the tievi and köli maybe perasin...
hi, thank you for the deep inside in the lofting. I have one question why do you not loft a smal boat like this 1:1 because you anyway doing it at the end 1:1.??? If you just give a hint why you working this way? Thank you for the great videos and super boats . I wish I could have a boat like this.
The original lines drawing would be easier to work and adjust on a ratio scale. then you physically enlarge it to life size to set up to cut molds to form the boat around. Imagine erasing 43 feet of pencil on wood if you had to readjust three or more lines to adjust for a more fair look to the boat? Plus, having the lines drawing gives you a reference to pull from once the larger board/plywood loft is cut up to make the moulds.
So why haven't you drawn the boat in full-size plan and profile? Just drawing the section plan won't pick up any errors in the curves fore and aft not seen on the scale drawing.
Question: I thought I knew how to use a scale rule, but at the 3:00 mark I don't see how that measurement is 11 and 4/8ths. Can anyone explain? It looks like 8 and 1/2 or so.
he was measuring down from a full foot measure, on the scale being used, back toward zero. each tic-mark is 1/4 inch, so two ticks up from zero would be 12 inches minus 2/4" (up from the zero end). 12 inches minus 2/4 (4/8) would be 11 4/8". (half an inch shy of a full 12 inches or one foot). Look at it closely, again. To lable the grid in 8ths you have to judge between the tics.
I'm a Metric baby, but I use inches for carpentry. Surprisingly it's very intuitive when you get used to it. For example dividing stuff in half or quarters is really easy. Plus building houses in those small millimetre things is too fiddly.
The measurement system does not matter as long as you select and employ a constant standard for length. Accordingly, Lou could have used cubits if he wanted to.
It really is not that hard of a system. the difficulty lies in the translation from one system to the other if you are not highly experienced with both. Don't let the fractions scare you, they are actually more accurate than decimals for measuring. When your materials are sold in Imperial, metric creates waste and/or inaccuracies.
For anyone interested in the history of shipbuilding at Shoreham and Stow's in particular here's a link: blog.sandemanyachtcompany.co.uk/a-brief-history-of-stows-of-shoreham/ I don't know which Stow was running the company when the now Tally Ho was built but he is surely smiling down on you now Leo as you fair off this old battered hull.
Maybe a close -up lens ? Trace with a Small tip sharpie to see lines better? Thank you for teaching your considerable skills, serving some seriously positive Kharma!
Really, anyone who would build a boat by watching this series of videos can build a boat without watching the videos. These videos are not complete instructions but informational entertainment which I do enjoy. I was only saying sometimes you can spend too much time on a certain part and it starts to become boring. So I guess I am saying maybe my mind moves faster than yours does. If you need help to catch up with the story, please feel free to ask. I hope this helps.
Love your skills not only building it but also designing the complete boat from scratch. Oldschool! Thumbs up. I´m watching every video you put up!
Finally glad after all these years to see someone actually make their own drawing, then loft the data, and I did not need to attend a class. Can't afford a class anyways. Excellent. Genius for sure. Can't wait to see the molds being constructed.
Hey Lou, Your lofting/layout/planning videos have been extremely helpful!! Many thanks to you and the crew who gets this stuff online!
I am in the process of lofting of William atkin's "rescue minor" (a "seabright skiff" style hull) the offsets table had some missing measurements and numbers that needed some fudging...I was confused and quite frustrated, but you really came to the rescue with the dory series!
I was able to fool with some drawings, pull some numbers, tweak some others and fill in the blanks. Everything is laying-out to full size beautifully, and with ease now. I can n't thank ya enough man, helpin me make my dreams a reality. Keep doin your thing!! Much love
During WW2 my Dad was a loftsman at New York ship on the Camden side of the Delaware River. Louis, your descriptive instruction and your massive drawing board so reminds me a of my youth. I spent many idle hours "drafting" on my Dad's huge drawing board at home.
As I come to the end of my decision making on the boat I'm going to build, I love viewing this boat build and the inspiration I get from it! Thanks Louis!
Really makes me appreciate the work and planning that goes into even a small boat. And I haven't heard anyone use the expression "plaguing" in many years. I'd forgotten how good of an expression it is.
What a Master Craftsman ! We are getting treated to the full apprenticeship. When this series is finished I'll be able to hang out a shingle "Boats Built Here. Trained by Louis Sauzedde". A brilliant video; 3D geometry clearly explained.
Amazing how much knowledge this man carries around in his head to share with all of us. Thank you for sharing!
I couldn't agree more. Had the same thought myself. This man is a national treasure!
Enjoying watching this stage of the build. I'm a mechanical draftsman by trade with over 30 years experience. Sure miss drawing the old way on the drawing board rather than CAD. Computers have taken over so many of the old skills.
Very nice Lou, a true master! Greetings from the Port Townsend wooden boat festival, good turnout
Thanks Lou, these video's are so interesting and engaging. Great subject matter and I love listening to you describe what's going on.
I'm really enjoying the drafting table/design episodes.
Lou , its a joy to watch and listen to you explain how you designed your dory. A question I have - how do you determine the maximum width of planking material you will need from the plans?
Thanks for the informative video, it's made looking at boat plans a lot clearer for us newbies.
thanks for the lofting lesson you did for me in 10 minutes what took me weeks to learn. Great lesson
Agreed. I am good with numbers and angles, but this lesson really sprung my mind wide open to old-school drafting and lofting. I may even have a basic knowledge to read a boat lines drawing. Thank you sensei!
In the wee hours of the morning, watching the compressed time moves, my mind supplied kung-fu sound effects. I too find the hook and box on the tape to be plaguing me. Nice setup and prep. Pretty fair lines. All done with good reason. Beauty is everlasting.
Loving the series so far
Hi Louis Can you guys make the episodes a litle longer, 20 min pluss.I apriciate the effort that goes into make the videos. But i really like to open up youtube to see a new video from quality providers. But with a beer in hand, trying to relax after work 10 minutes is not enough. I enjoyed your last build series. Keep up the good work.Eirik
No drafting machine? Use Navigation parallels!
I really love your channel, This was my childhood, I could count everybody that knew how to loft on one hand and now there is one more. But sad to say, this brings the living count to only two. :'(
We called them Duck-weights, we had too make are own. We had a clinker small boat, can still remember how it talked to you as you pulled it thru the water. We had to scavenge the lead from under the fishing piers, not the safest thing to do off a open pier?
Then there was even fewer that could caulk a boat.
Recently my best friend passed, he was a Master machinist, he had 60+ years working metal, the first two years of his training was sweeping the floors of a machine shop, after six months he traded work for limited access to a few of the machines for his own play time. I say this because all of his knowledge was lost, I would like to praise you for passing it on!
When I was a kid, two doors down from my house was a friend named Terry, he went to sea in the 1890.
I recently am getting enough toys to start a channel to hopefully pass on a bit of mine, not sure if this is to pass on knowledge that could be lost or to justify my life to me?
Sorry about PUSHING you down my memory lane!
Oh, and a Badger hair brush of clean off the drafting board, a bit costly?
Keep up the good work
Hami
You sir, are a genius...
Hey Lou!!! What a great video.
Thank you very much for all the amazing content, your channel is awesome!!!
Could you please make a video explaining your method of bevel board. I'm struggling to understand how to build and use one.
Thank you very much.
All the best!
You just helped explain Carlsonn's hull design software and how those numbers relate to landlubbers. Cool!
You're a walking encyclopedia of knowledge Lou.I hate to think what will happen to this knowledge when guys like you are gone.The George Jones song "Who's Gonna Fill Their Shoes" comes to mind.
Check out the channels for "Salt & Tar" , "Acorn to Arabella", and "Sampson Boat". All young designers and boat builders. The later two even did full floor lofts of their rather large wooden boats. The first two listed above are building their sailing yachts from scratch, and Leo at Sampson is rebuilding/refurbishing a well know 108-109 year old racing yacht named "Tally-Ho" (a 1910 Gaff Cutter). There are younger guys and gals out there building in mixed new and old ways. In fact, Tall-Ho has a brand new Purple-Heart keel, and Arabella has a new back=yard poured ~10 ton lead keel.
Oh crap, NOW I know just enough to be dangerous!
thanks Lou!
I enjoyed seeing this video in how the offsets are made/used. Not sure it applies to this build, but I'm curious in this process with larger boats when frames are cut with a bevel instead of squared cuts. I wonder if in a future video that can be explained since the bevel could change during the length of the frame. Can the bevel be figured out through the line drawings? Alternatively, if there's another video that could be referenced or from a book, I'm open to any info. Just interested in wooden boatbuilding and how it all comes together. Thanks.
A thought. Why not clamp a rule on either side of your loft table and run your straight edge up between them? You could even use a piece of aluminium angle with your tape segment attached perpendicular to the table to get marks that are right next to the paper. Not quite as accurate as a drafting machine, but probably a bit easier on you.
Thank you for letting me into your workshop.
10 mins? I'm going through withdrawal heeyah! 😜. We love you Lou!
Nice trick with the tape measure section!
I've seen an older member of literally every craft in home building use a piece of a tape-measure. even seen one Mexican crew use a 35 footer to provide 5 guys with just over a six foot rule each. the crew "foreman" was the only guy who had a full tape-measure in its spring loaded case.
The top-down view of his drafting table looks like a huge analog version of Photoshop. He has the tool palette on the right (pencil tool, pen tool, paintbrush, line tool, and calipers) then he has the rulers on the top. I guess some things never change.
That's how Photoshop (1) was designed. To look exactly like a drafting table. It was inspired by a specific drafting table that came with graduations, tool holders (across the edges), pre-set and custom landscape points, etc. Can't remember the specific brand of drafting table tho, something British, 1880s.
Well done sir !
This is going to be funn can't wait...
Awesome. Thanks for sharing.
Really enjoyed this....not sure about it all but interesting, thank you !
Can't wait to see a real hull start to form
Yes! Got here nice and early today. The ruler is not called the ruler for nothing, lol.
Lou you might want to tell people about the ft - in - 1/8 I'm sure you have viewer's who don't know what you are talking about. I enjoyed the video , use to watch my Dad loft out boats on a sheet of plywood
Wasn't it Lou in a previous video who taught me the ft-in-8th thingie? I recently picked it up somewhere.
Good question Raymond.
Raymond Engle don't forget about the + - for 1/16ths of an inch.
I remembered about the + and - after I posted
@@bill7778 What about 32nds? or 64ths? or does this industry not require that much accuracy?
A simple T-square and millimeters would make your amazing work so much easier and maybe more accurate... but, there is always more'n one way to skin a cat. Can't wait to see the boat take shape!
divide an odd number of millimeters by an even number and you no longer have a full millimeter of accuracy. If you take 161 millimeter dead rise and have to divide it for two boards and want them equal, how do you get an exact 80.5 millimeter reading on a metric rule with the millimeter being the smallest measure represented? At least in imperial we are used to our 1/4, 1/8, 1/16, 1/32, etc.., fractional system for dividing measurements when need be. Fractions are more accurate then decimals. in that every decimal has an equivalent fraction. However, there are exact measure fractions with no exact decimal equivalent. Example: what exact decimal is equivalent to 1/3, or 1/11? a repeating decimal (in both of these cases) has no final number, you have to round off to the nearest decimal at some point, ergo, not exactly accurate.
great video
Well it's interesting to follow as I spent the Spring lofting my 21'2" Indian Class John G. Alden day sailing boat. Although I had the moulds with planking lines, some of the planks were 14" wide at the widest point meaning I would of needed wood stock well over 20+ inches due to the rise and in Finland it just isn't possible (on a budget) as I would have had to purchase expensive mahogany planking and it's crazy expensive and seeing as I haven't built a boat 'ever' if I mess up even one plank then I've destroyed 200€ of wood. So I'm using Finnish pine and the moulds are rounded so I can layout new planking lines on the moulds and use thinner local stock.
Paul Hitchman have you checked from Novo Wood it's near Lahti . Oy Nordisk Åbo Ab and Viilukeskus in Turku . Regards from Salo Finland Juhani Perttula
I just purchased 17 x 6.5m mänty venelauta from a local boat builder for 200€ but I recon I've no where near enough so I need more. I'll be sure to check them out. I nee iroko for the tievi and köli maybe perasin...
Good stuff. Anyone know where I can get info on incorporating butt lines and diagonals when lofting?
from the original lines drawing? This is all pretty new to me. Use the calipers to pick up the diagonal, then get the measure from the tri-rule-scale?
seeing the full process is wonderful, and it will make the build so much more interesting. Great stuff! ~~ _/) ~~
4:40 that fancy light is on sale NOW at Home Depot for dad's Christmas gift huh?
hi, thank you for the deep inside in the lofting. I have one question why do you not loft a smal boat like this 1:1 because you anyway doing it at the end 1:1.??? If you just give a hint why you working this way? Thank you for the great videos and super boats . I wish I could have a boat like this.
The original lines drawing would be easier to work and adjust on a ratio scale. then you physically enlarge it to life size to set up to cut molds to form the boat around. Imagine erasing 43 feet of pencil on wood if you had to readjust three or more lines to adjust for a more fair look to the boat? Plus, having the lines drawing gives you a reference to pull from once the larger board/plywood loft is cut up to make the moulds.
Fascinating
Terrific.
I was wondering why the datum/baseline is drawn offset or below the bottom of the boat on the scale drawing?
I've watched videos 1-3 twice, still have no idea how this boat was designed, where the shape and size came from
Great, great, great.
You have a bad habit of pointing with the two pointers of the divider/caliper which may be confusing sometimes :)
Can you be so kind and explain in one separate video...
"What is a seachest and what it the purpose"
Thank you.
That's where the captain keeps his pieces-of-8.
So why haven't you drawn the boat in full-size plan and profile? Just drawing the section plan won't pick up any errors in the curves fore and aft not seen on the scale drawing.
Is there any way to get a copy of those drawings to put in a picture frame? Even just sections would look cool
nice try to get his plans. Did it work?
thank you for the process and the descriptive steps. but I can not see the pencil lines from the overhead. please darken.
Can tell me good web site that has full size a expedition weary drawings ty
No Substitute for Old School.
No school like the Olde Schkoole.
Start building please!
I don't know about you, but this ancillary information is quite valuable to beginners like me.
Question: I thought I knew how to use a scale rule, but at the 3:00 mark I don't see how that measurement is 11 and 4/8ths. Can anyone explain? It looks like 8 and 1/2 or so.
he was measuring down from a full foot measure, on the scale being used, back toward zero. each tic-mark is 1/4 inch, so two ticks up from zero would be 12 inches minus 2/4" (up from the zero end). 12 inches minus 2/4 (4/8) would be 11 4/8". (half an inch shy of a full 12 inches or one foot). Look at it closely, again. To lable the grid in 8ths you have to judge between the tics.
BLACK MAGIC!!
The drawing board...Lou explained another term..."back 2 the drawing board "
How on do imperial measurements not drive you mad? Millimetres are infinitely more logical.
I'm a Metric baby, but I use inches for carpentry. Surprisingly it's very intuitive when you get used to it. For example dividing stuff in half or quarters is really easy. Plus building houses in those small millimetre things is too fiddly.
you can use centimetres as well
Only Germans use centimetres for building, UK, Oz, NZ use mm only - no chance for confusion.
The measurement system does not matter as long as you select and employ a constant standard for length. Accordingly, Lou could have used cubits if he wanted to.
Guys, watching this, I'm glad I do not have use imperial units. Just for ability to handle that Lou should get Nobel prize.
It really is not that hard of a system. the difficulty lies in the translation from one system to the other if you are not highly experienced with both. Don't let the fractions scare you, they are actually more accurate than decimals for measuring. When your materials are sold in Imperial, metric creates waste and/or inaccuracies.
Lou, 2017 brah. Where da computer?
Jive Turkey taking iPad lessons
Good Job Lou. That gonna make it easier for you.
For anyone interested in the history of shipbuilding at Shoreham and Stow's in particular here's a link: blog.sandemanyachtcompany.co.uk/a-brief-history-of-stows-of-shoreham/
I don't know which Stow was running the company when the now Tally Ho was built but he is surely smiling down on you now Leo as you fair off this old battered hull.
Come on guys. Please tell me the vids get longer as we go. 10 mins after a week is just a tease lol
Agreed, also I watch on a phone.. virtually impossible to see pencil
Maybe a close -up lens ? Trace with a Small tip sharpie to see lines better? Thank you for teaching your considerable skills, serving some seriously positive Kharma!
Who else saw how dirty their computer screen was after this video.
Lou...ventures into Doctor Irwin Corey and George Carlin 🤔thinking...still a genius. .close to comedy however!...thinking outside the box!
"Finding Dory"....
within the trees of the forest.
Molds!...omg.. boat building and geodesic dome building. .. get clear of these types!...lol...just kidding...modern Einsteins!
Who cares? Too much information
Plenty of us care.
Literally anyone who wants to build this boat will care.
Really, anyone who would build a boat by watching this series of videos can build a boat without watching the videos. These videos are not complete instructions but informational entertainment which I do enjoy. I was only saying sometimes you can spend too much time on a certain part and it starts to become boring. So I guess I am saying maybe my mind moves faster than yours does. If you need help to catch up with the story, please feel free to ask. I hope this helps.
We all care...
@12ozbuds No, that's an attention disorder.