Another key point of the episode, to me, is that you can't really know someone based on how they seem online. At the beginning, the real Ash posts a childhood picture of himself online because he thinks the internet will find it funny. But he tells his wife the real story, that it was a miserable family trip after his brother died. Later, the robot Ash picks up the same photo and calls it "funny" because his responses are based on what Ash said publicly, but not what he really thought. (Also, robot Ash being stored in the attic is a parallel to what was said in that conversation, as others pointed out.)
well she also uploaded a lot of private videos but the point is. The robot Ash doesn’t grow with you, it doesn’t have a past and she can’t learn new stuff about him. Since he’s just a surface of the limited information it has. she also stated to the robot “Ur not enough of him” since he’s just a snapshot of him.
The parallels in this story are GENIUS. In the beginning Ash is addicted to social media and doesn't really pay attention to the real world, then she begins to use the Ash simulation the same way he did. Also Ash mentioning all the painful pictures of lost loved ones got moved to the attic and then that's what she does with the Ash copy...
I just wanted to say your channel means a lot to me. I don't really have any friends or close family in my life, and I have a really hard time interacting with people due to severe depression and social anxiety. Watching your channel makes me feel like I'm just hanging out, watching TV with friends. Watching your channel makes me feel normal. Thank you so much for everything.
I know how it feels man, just from your response i know you are a good person , i lost my entire family through divorce, keep at it , although you feel alone, you're a good person at heart. Keep at it dude! ❤
💜🧡💛💚💙💗❤💖 you are brave and beautiful for what you just said. So many people feel the way you feel and never admit it. You deserve all the happiness in the world, and I know you will find it. Keep fighting every day for your little piece of normal. You are with friends here.😁
My people sorry to hear your stories of loneliness. I was in the same place as you and managed to improve myself with friends and you can do it too. I know when people say this you may think it sounds stupid or won't work for you but I felt the exact same way, this world is not easy as it is but I hope you find your way one day just remember no one gets out of alive so try enjoy what you can.
kurtrussell , I see you are a Tool fan and you love music(me too). I’ve made amazing friends at concerts and festivals. Not best friends or people you necessarily keep in touch with, but people you have a moment with. And sometimes thats enough. I was an only child so being alone was all I knew. That made me feel different and odd. Always an outsider. I made my first real best friend at 35. Everyone travels through life at a different pace. You have yours. It doesn’t have to be like anyone else’s. If you have peace with yourself, you are never alone.
Normals shit anyway man, don't crave being normal, the majority of people who are just drones following what society tells them, rushing home from a 9 to 5 office job to watch Kardashian take selfies is literally all that wrong with society. Go against the grain n fuck being normal. Also I read someone mention your into TOOL? Anyone who has TOOL in their repertoire obviously has the right idea and must be doing something right.... Don't ever want to be normal mate. x
This episode broke me, dude. Just...ugh. I have an anxiety disorder so whenever somebody I care about is late getting home or getting somewhere, my mind almost always convinces me they're hurt or dead. So this entire scenario is just...a lot. Plus, the acting is fucking fantastic which made it all that much more difficult to watch. That being said, this is still one of my favorite episodes. Top 5, for sure.
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My husband and I were together for 40 years when he passed a few years ago. You loose a very large part of yourself with him. I know I could not bear to have a replica of him walking around the house. It would be a constant reminder of what I lost. I think memories are more healing than a replacement . Great episode guys. I love that you show how much you mean to each other.
"Be Right Back" is a perfect example of how drama can be genuinely deep and thought provoking on multiple levels. The scene choices, directing, acting ... everything is perfect.
I totally agree. Also I think all of the actors and actresses totally kill every performance. I haven't seen one episode that didn't pull a sincere emotional reaction from me. The story telling is creative or what I like to call painful beautiful. Oh, have you watched River, The Fall, and Luther? If not I suggest those if you get burned out on your usual shows.
This episode really speaks to how we grieve as human beings. It also deals with our digital lives and our imprint of "highlights" that lives on well after we do die. I've had people die...and now their Facebook pages are immortalized and we can return to them to remember them if we like. Ultimately, it's not healthy, because you can never fully move on from it.
I think you guys got it right - with her "fake" husband back she was unable to move on and in the end got stuck. At least that's how I felt at the end of the episode.
If I lost a husband I actually loved...I'm not interested in moving on. You don't move on from loved ones. I don't necessarily agree with copying them though
Sometimes people listen over and over to the voicemail message of someone they've lost, or look at their facebook over and over. How far would we take that if we could?
You guys should watch the Joaquin Phoenix movie called “Her” if you haven’t seen it. It’s about a world where some people have relationships with artificial intelligence, just a voice. Really really good movie.
first! been waiting! in the beginning he says his mom put all the photos of their family in the attic; so its irony or foreshadowing that he would end up there too. Also, that is Agent Carter! from Captain America.
I like that - she put him up in the attic with all the other old photos. So, he's kind of like a living photo that she kept around, at least in part to show her daughter what her dad was like, I guess. I also noticed at the very end it looks like Martha is looking at the door jamb where they kept track of Ash's height as he was growing up - in contrast to "Ash" now, who doesn't grow or change anymore?
Each episode of the Black mirror leaves you with the thoughts - how will you do or react in these situations. It's heavy, but so necessary, like deep look on our world and where humanity actually goes and how you deal with it!
I think the most disturbing thing about this episode is, at the time of grief in loosing someone special you can see how easy it would be to start down that slippery slope.
7:22 Hey Nikki & Steve ... I was really touched when Nikki said that the loss of a spouse crosses her mind, and I really want to take this opportunity to wish you guys a long and happy life.
Artificial Ash is a representation of our happy memories with someone who we truly love. And when that person is gone, those memories become very painful but we still hold on to them even if we don’t want to - because the pain reminds us that what we’ve had with that person was real.
I was pretty upset that the company used her emotions to up sell her to something that as the software said was "expensive" pretty much knowing she would buy it. Something like that would probably be illegal. The up sell anyway.
The up selling was horrible, but in the next 20 years if our tech reaches that level..... I have no problem believing the up sell would be totally legal.
I love how heavy the last two episodes have been. The attic if you remember is where Ash’s mom kept a lot of his stuff when he was younger. Just something to note.
Such a good episode and it really is scary because this would appeal to many people who have lost someone so suddenly. I agree with Nikki, if we haven't seen something with our own eyes sometimes its hard to believe. This would be ok to get closure and say the things you haven't been able to say but it would and could never be a replacement for the love one you have lost. It really make you think and we can all put ourself in her shoes. Man this shows amazing!
I really like how you reacted to this episode. That’s the interesting thing about black mirror, thinking about the emotional side of how technology can affect you. It isn’t just what it can change in the world, but how it can affect how you feel and live your life.
It seems that we're not too far off from something like this. People have bots online that reply as they would, it's not that far of a stretch to do it with a deceased person's online footprint. We already connect with each other, more often than not, without having physical connection.
Also keep in mind that people in the future will have lived the entire length of their lives on social media and the internet, not just the last few years like us. The amalgamation of online interactions left from future people might make for a much more honest picture of a person if someone was ever to be recreated. Creepy.
This is one of the things this show does well IMO, brings to light things we should be thinking about now before the technology gets even more ahead of our laws/ethics. What happens if one person (say a brother) wants to do something like this but another (say a second brother) does not want it to exist. Who decides? I think people should be putting rights to their "digital afterlife" in their wills (and I am sure some are). Real life sort of example is from Steven's (and mine) beloved Star Wars where Governor Tarkin is "acted" by Peter Cushing after his Death which is not exactly the same as this but is IMO in the same arena.
Another brilliant reaction. You two, your lives and experiences as a couple, bring so much to your reactions to this particular show. It's so often described as being about technology but it's actually about deep emotional connections between people, and how technology messes with them. You are a perfect couple to react to that.
That was really tough to see you guys watch. I’m so sorry my loves.. This show really does make think and feel a lot of emotions. Great reaction loves!!
The rule you mentioned.... "Don't go to bed angry". I've always tried to live that way and I've taught my kids (who aren't kids anymore😊😊) that as a person who what's to have a life partner you need this rule in your relationship arsenal. Also, for the individual. If you're not with someone the rule still applies so basically it's sound advice all around. I just noticed you guys were doing reactions for Black Mirror. The way I started watching you guys was when I would miss The Walking Dead. I've been away from your channel for a bit so this was a pleasant surprise that you've found your way to one of my favorite shows. I hope once you get caught up you fall in love with the show the way me and the Fam have. Last, thank you for your work and I appreciate watching what you do. God Bless💗💙💗💙
I agree with the point you made at the beginning of the video. A lot of people say that the message or theme of Black Mirror as an entire show is that “technology is bad” and whatnot - but I disagree. I think the overall message is about humanity and how humanity abuses and manipulates the powers that technology grants us, not the other way around.
Pretty much every episode is this show depresses me... but there are always those episodes that depress me a little more than the majority of the other episodes - this is one of those fo sho!
I don't think there's any episodes that are particularly happy but there are definitely some that are on the funnier side, or the more upbeat side and I was definitely mind blown at the end of almost all of them. Love that you're watching this series! Season 2 and 3 are my favorite of the series :D
Easily one of my favorite episodes of Black Mirror. One minute I was close to tears and the next I was terrified the remade ash would harm Martha, then I was terrified she would jump and kill herself. I was wrecked after watching this since I could only think of my actual relationship in real life and how I would be if I lost someone in that way.
This is one of my favorite episodes. By the way, the actress Hayley Atwell played as Marvel's Agent (Peggy) Carter. What I like about the episode is that it shows you to what extent technology can evolve into in order to compensate for human frailty. Just think. There are human sex dolls that costs thousands of dollars that you can customize for every conceivable thing (satisfaction). This is really about how human emotions, feelings, events (like pregnancy) can cause a person to take things one step further. It is a boundary that is crossed when life and death are literally at a person's doorstep or threshold. This is difficult to just react to. Your thought process and the ability to put yourself in the other person's shoes has to be involved.
Thinking back on this, that's why Ash's favorite song was "How Deep is Your Love"- hinting at the thematic analysis to this episode. Is your love for me deep enough to go THIS far.....
Having "SOMETHING" like that and that's a key word here would take everything from what was real about that actual person, eventually it would kill that person in your mind and that's the worst thing ever. We live and we die and that's a reality, not some substitute.
Most of the time, the death of a person is unexpected, people have a desire to spend a little more time with the deceased person and this program gives them a little bit of that. This futuristic multimedia helps people cope with the situation, accept reality and then move on and in the end that's what happen to her. You have to look "him" as a combination and sophisticated content format. It's like watching a picture of a deceased person or video, in the past people didn't even have that, in the future it's very likely we will have this. This technology looks creepy to us, but I imagine our current technology would look creepy to people from the past.
Caprica , the prequel for Battlestar Glactica, had a similar theme. The cylons started out as replacements for your deceased loved ones & they used your online presence & all your online information to create an AI program that simulated your loved one.
This was my favorite episode until I accidentally skipped white Christmas and watched it last. I related to this episode because I could see myself falling down the rabbit hole of trying to cling on to whatever piece of a person I can get and it gradually escalating exactly how it did in this episode. It really hit home because most people ThINK or do know themselves enough to know they would be strong enough to move on but curiosity would get the best of me and I’d be addicted just like her. Btw the guy also played in Harry Potter - it was where I personally knew him from but when u guys were like Star Wars I was like maybe you hadn’t watched Harry Potter but then you brought up Harry Potter lol
This is one of those instances where it sounds good on paper but in practice it isn't. When you are in an emotional state you aren't thinking about moving on. You want to be with the person that you love right then and there and you are willing to do anything to achieve that. But in time, you realize that moving on is an important part of the grieving process that we all have to go through as human beings. Anyway, I enjoyed this review from you guys because it gave us a little tidbit into you guys' relationship. It was sweet to watch it.
1:18 Rule 36: "If you feel like you are being played, you probably are". - L. J. Gibbs Regarding the episode, I think this is one of the most creepy AND beautiful. I think the true "Black Mirror-y" part of this is the doll thing, but the chat application itself is something that I would both be afraid of and want to use in a situation like this, I believe. Of course, that only is if I knew of the existence of the app beforehand. IF this app existed and it was well known by people and rigidly controlled (like you can only chat 1h per week), I think it would be used: the user knows it isn't the real person, but it could still help or relieve some nostalgia once in a while.
I think at a low moment, recently after the loss, it would be very tempting to talk to the person. The whole, “let’s bring ‘em back” scenario...maybe not so much.
After this episode, I haven’t seen the rest of Black Mirror. So, I’m gonna watch the rest of them with you guys! Obviously, on my own first and then with y’all
I'm starting to watch your 'Black Mirror' reactions from here, long story short; I've yet to watch the first season of 'Black Mirror'. I'm so happy that you're reacting to this show, finally. Afer 'Westworld' it appeared to be the perfect fit to fill this time slot, which is why i voted for it. A devastating episode in many ways and a brilliant example of what Black Mirror does best, it makes you think. I love both actors in this particular episode, so that was a joy for me too. Thanks for the fantastic reaction, I really enjoy watching you guys react to these types of shows in particular. =) Keep up the great work and I hope it didn't make you too sad, Nikki?
Hi guys, I love your channel. I think that the further you get with this show, the more you are going to find that you have lots to say after reflecting for a week. There is some stuff that sinks in pretty deep. Cheers!
finally getting around to black mirror and see that my favorite reacting couple also watched it three years back. so i like to watch your reaction after the show. you guys never watched battlestar galactica but the spinoff show, caprica, uses this same idea: take the sum total of a person's electronic records and online postings to come up with an AI that looks, talks, and thinks just like they would.
What makes BM so good is that it's almost real. It's like an exact replica of our reality but just slightly ahead. Normally when you see movies that are set in the future they show flying cars or jet packs maybe space craft visiting the new human colony on Mars. BM ignores that stuff. It explores things that are real and could be very well real in a few years.
Morale of the story: People's online presence isn't a realistic approximation of who they really are...Great acting & intense drama, but a good episode, if not difficult to watch. See y'all on Tuesday! 😁💜
By the way...(and this is not a spoiler for any episodes I promise)...but the song the girl song in episode 2 on Hot Shots...(the girl who turned into a poem girl).. That song turns up in a lot of the episodes throughout the series in different seasons...also some of the characters turn up in different episodes as different characters...as you go through the episodes see what you can spot from other episodes....
This episode killed me. I could easily see myself doing what she did and trying to find some way of holding on to the parts of my partner that I could. But in the end, that would just leave me stuck and alone. She wouldn't be back but she wouldn't be gone, either.
I’m glad they chose to go for a _somewhat bittersweet_ ending, I _fully_ expected it to end with Martha screaming and the cut to black indicating _she_ jumped.
commenting before watching... very much looking forward to this, as per usual. i love that i love the disquiet Black Mirror makes us feel. makes us consider so many things we'd never even countenance in real life, yet so many *are* real life situations (amended by Brooker's mind to the scenario) i also love that i *hate* that it can make us feel that, *frequently* - Charlie Brooker is a bit of a genius imo. tv is *supposed* to make you *feel* or at least the good stuff is. this *is* the good stuff. 👍
So many times in these Black Mirror, N&S are going to be going WTF is happening and it is enjoyable to see their reaction when they understand. Next one is one of those big time.
If you guys haven’t seen “Ex Machina” yet, I highly recommend it. It also stars Domhnall Gleeson (General Hux) along with fellow Star Wars star Oscar Isaac (Poe Dameron). Very “Black Mirror”-ish and deals largely with AI while also exploring many other sci-fi/philosophical ideas and themes. Beautiful, brilliant, and terrifying. I think it’s on Netflix. If you end up liking it, also check out “Annihilation”, starring Natalie Portman. It’s by the same writer/director.
Nikki and Steven said : i'll be right back, when I exactly told a friend I'll be right back, and Steven goes: Someone is not gonna be right back... I take a seat :D
The theme of the episode was, in the context of technology outpacing human behavior/emotions and us struggling with the consequences, about how something like that tech can FEEL like a cure for something as profound as grief. She did not make the call to 'bring him back' , even bit by bit, in her best state of mind. She was deep in extreme grief when she started talking to it, AFTER she just learned that she was pregnant. It's a hard thing to even comprehend, learning that you are about have a child, now alone, when your partner died so recently. Your mind will allow you to go to places like that, in that state. It's about addiction to the things technology can offer, in our most vulnerable states. And as the addiction, and our innate problem with facing reality or sadness as people come together, that scenario becomes possible. The real, actual now version of this hypothetical would be say... how someone suffering from extreme social anxiety or self esteem issues develops an unhealthy dependency on social media validation. You see that all the time, the lengths people will go to feel liked/loved/admired online. With something like grief... that can be a whole other thing.
Nikki & Steven React thank you so much. I’m anticipating a good outcome, which should solve a long-standing issue. I will be watching your content while recovering. I never miss your videos. Happy holidays to you both and your daughters! Looking forward to sending your painting soon. I hope you love it.
This is another one that, as a widow, really disturbed me. There was a period of time where I would play old messages and videos, but I couldn't see myself ever doing anything like this.
“How do you hurt someone who’s lost everything?
Give them back something broken.”
-Stephen R. Donaldson
Rich Relaxes Ahhh....the Unbeliever...Classic series👍
Good Lord!!! That's going on Twitter right now!!!
I think giving hope, only to take it away, would also be painful.
Another key point of the episode, to me, is that you can't really know someone based on how they seem online. At the beginning, the real Ash posts a childhood picture of himself online because he thinks the internet will find it funny. But he tells his wife the real story, that it was a miserable family trip after his brother died. Later, the robot Ash picks up the same photo and calls it "funny" because his responses are based on what Ash said publicly, but not what he really thought.
(Also, robot Ash being stored in the attic is a parallel to what was said in that conversation, as others pointed out.)
well she also uploaded a lot of private videos but the point is. The robot Ash doesn’t grow with you, it doesn’t have a past and she can’t learn new stuff about him. Since he’s just a surface of the limited information it has. she also stated to the robot “Ur not enough of him” since he’s just a snapshot of him.
The parallels in this story are GENIUS. In the beginning Ash is addicted to social media and doesn't really pay attention to the real world, then she begins to use the Ash simulation the same way he did. Also Ash mentioning all the painful pictures of lost loved ones got moved to the attic and then that's what she does with the Ash copy...
I just wanted to say your channel means a lot to me. I don't really have any friends or close family in my life, and I have a really hard time interacting with people due to severe depression and social anxiety. Watching your channel makes me feel like I'm just hanging out, watching TV with friends. Watching your channel makes me feel normal. Thank you so much for everything.
I know how it feels man, just from your response i know you are a good person , i lost my entire family through divorce, keep at it , although you feel alone, you're a good person at heart. Keep at it dude! ❤
💜🧡💛💚💙💗❤💖 you are brave and beautiful for what you just said. So many people feel the way you feel and never admit it. You deserve all the happiness in the world, and I know you will find it. Keep fighting every day for your little piece of normal. You are with friends here.😁
My people sorry to hear your stories of loneliness. I was in the same place as you and managed to improve myself with friends and you can do it too. I know when people say this you may think it sounds stupid or won't work for you but I felt the exact same way, this world is not easy as it is but I hope you find your way one day just remember no one gets out of alive so try enjoy what you can.
kurtrussell , I see you are a Tool fan and you love music(me too). I’ve made amazing friends at concerts and festivals. Not best friends or people you necessarily keep in touch with, but people you have a moment with. And sometimes thats enough. I was an only child so being alone was all I knew. That made me feel different and odd. Always an outsider. I made my first real best friend at 35. Everyone travels through life at a different pace. You have yours. It doesn’t have to be like anyone else’s. If you have peace with yourself, you are never alone.
Normals shit anyway man, don't crave being normal, the majority of people who are just drones following what society tells them, rushing home from a 9 to 5 office job to watch Kardashian take selfies is literally all that wrong with society.
Go against the grain n fuck being normal.
Also I read someone mention your into TOOL? Anyone who has TOOL in their repertoire obviously has the right idea and must be doing something right....
Don't ever want to be normal mate. x
This episode broke me, dude. Just...ugh. I have an anxiety disorder so whenever somebody I care about is late getting home or getting somewhere, my mind almost always convinces me they're hurt or dead. So this entire scenario is just...a lot. Plus, the acting is fucking fantastic which made it all that much more difficult to watch. That being said, this is still one of my favorite episodes. Top 5, for sure.
Try CBD and exercise my guy it helps.
FiniteVoid I’ve been using CBD for well over 2 years & it’s completely changed my life for the better.
I also suffer from anxiety and ive been using cbd oil for a year. Its made a huge difference.
I also wanted to add, if you have facebook, there is a big online community called cbd oil users group. There is a ton of information and lists of brands that are recommended and vetted and brands to avoid.
same. i get anxious every time a family member walks out the door to go to work or school for the day. this episode hit me hard
My husband and I were together for 40 years when he passed a few years ago. You loose a very large part of yourself with him. I know I could not bear to have a replica of him walking around the house. It would be a constant reminder of what I lost. I think memories are more healing than a replacement .
Great episode guys. I love that you show how much you mean to each other.
♥️
This is legitimately one of the most underrated Black Mirror episodes. One of the most emotionally affecting and with some fantastic performances.
Citron Fuckn’ True!
He also is Bill Weasley from Harry Potter
Oh yeah!!! Another great franchise.
Seriously lol
General Hux & Agent Carter
And he's in Ex Machina
He is in "Frank" and "About time" as well. I actually like his movies.
It'll be interesting to see how a married couple reacts to this one...
Oh my
"Be Right Back" is a perfect example of how drama can be genuinely deep and thought provoking on multiple levels. The scene choices, directing, acting ... everything is perfect.
Awwwww nicki when you were talking about your real life. How you couldn't do it without him. This is why I love you two
This episode is devastating and Hayley Atwell crushes it.
I totally agree. Also I think all of the actors and actresses totally kill every performance. I haven't seen one episode that didn't pull a sincere emotional reaction from me. The story telling is creative or what I like to call painful beautiful.
Oh, have you watched River, The Fall, and Luther? If not I suggest those if you get burned out on your usual shows.
This episode really speaks to how we grieve as human beings. It also deals with our digital lives and our imprint of "highlights" that lives on well after we do die. I've had people die...and now their Facebook pages are immortalized and we can return to them to remember them if we like. Ultimately, it's not healthy, because you can never fully move on from it.
I think you guys got it right - with her "fake" husband back she was unable to move on and in the end got stuck. At least that's how I felt at the end of the episode.
If I lost a husband I actually loved...I'm not interested in moving on. You don't move on from loved ones. I don't necessarily agree with copying them though
Sometimes people listen over and over to the voicemail message of someone they've lost, or look at their facebook over and over. How far would we take that if we could?
OMG...good point
You guys should watch the Joaquin Phoenix movie called “Her” if you haven’t seen it. It’s about a world where some people have relationships with artificial intelligence, just a voice. Really really good movie.
I was going to say that too. Her is a great movie. Glad I read through first lol.
Sees General Hux and Peggy Carter sitting in a car together "These guys seem familiar."
Yes!!! Couldn’t put my finger on who she was while watching. A total duh moment after I looked it up. - S
The guy was also in Ex Machina. I just recently saw it.
And he was the main actor in About Time - great movie
And peter rabbit and bill from harry potter
first! been waiting! in the beginning he says his mom put all the photos of their family in the attic; so its irony or foreshadowing that he would end up there too. Also, that is Agent Carter! from Captain America.
I like that - she put him up in the attic with all the other old photos. So, he's kind of like a living photo that she kept around, at least in part to show her daughter what her dad was like, I guess. I also noticed at the very end it looks like Martha is looking at the door jamb where they kept track of Ash's height as he was growing up - in contrast to "Ash" now, who doesn't grow or change anymore?
Each episode of the Black mirror leaves you with the thoughts - how will you do or react in these situations. It's heavy, but so necessary, like deep look on our world and where humanity actually goes and how you deal with it!
I really like re-watching Black Mirror and Breaking Bad with Nikki and Steve's reactions. Brings a new appreciation for those great shows.
I think the most disturbing thing about this episode is, at the time of grief in loosing someone special you can see how easy it would be to start down that slippery slope.
7:22 Hey Nikki & Steve ... I was really touched when Nikki said that the loss of a spouse crosses her mind, and I really want to take this opportunity to wish you guys a long and happy life.
thank you!!!! very much appreciated.
Artificial Ash is a representation of our happy memories with someone who we truly love. And when that person is gone, those memories become very painful but we still hold on to them even if we don’t want to - because the pain reminds us that what we’ve had with that person was real.
This episode is so heartbreaking. I've seen it several times, and I still can't get through it without crying.
Seing Nicki upset upsets me...but I can't stop watching :(
Grunkle Dan Throw in Breaking Bad and...oof
Their personal stories and attachment to this episode and each other was very endearing.
Love how much symbolism there is in this show
This episode was so, so heavy for some of us who have lost a spouse. 😭 ...... love your reactions, you both are the best.
I was pretty upset that the company used her emotions to up sell her to something that as the software said was "expensive" pretty much knowing she would buy it. Something like that would probably be illegal. The up sell anyway.
Funeral homes do it all the time.
The up selling was horrible, but in the next 20 years if our tech reaches that level..... I have no problem believing the up sell would be totally legal.
I love how heavy the last two episodes have been.
The attic if you remember is where Ash’s mom kept a lot of his stuff when he was younger. Just something to note.
i love all the black mirror episodes, but your next one "white bear" is my favourite
It is a fantastic one, but "Shut Up And Dance"; holly shit. That has got to be the best.
oh yea, forgot, shut up and dance stares Bronn from Got
Playtest, shut up and dance and white christmas are my favourites
Yup...and Shut Up And Dance
San junipero
They kept him in the attic bcs that's what their family did to old memories of deceased loved ones.
Such a good episode and it really is scary because this would appeal to many people who have lost someone so suddenly. I agree with Nikki, if we haven't seen something with our own eyes sometimes its hard to believe. This would be ok to get closure and say the things you haven't been able to say but it would and could never be a replacement for the love one you have lost. It really make you think and we can all put ourself in her shoes. Man this shows amazing!
This episode was very very well done! Great reaction as always nikki and Steven 😊
Next twd episode Will be released only in february, 10th
@@killerkingofficial7850 lol I know I forgot that last week was the mid season finale lmfao whoops 😆
Reminds me of the 1800s Dolls meant to mimic the deceased child of a mother. It was meant to help the mother greive "better"
I really like how you reacted to this episode. That’s the interesting thing about black mirror, thinking about the emotional side of how technology can affect you. It isn’t just what it can change in the world, but how it can affect how you feel and live your life.
It seems that we're not too far off from something like this. People have bots online that reply as they would, it's not that far of a stretch to do it with a deceased person's online footprint. We already connect with each other, more often than not, without having physical connection.
Also keep in mind that people in the future will have lived the entire length of their lives on social media and the internet, not just the last few years like us. The amalgamation of online interactions left from future people might make for a much more honest picture of a person if someone was ever to be recreated. Creepy.
This is one of the things this show does well IMO, brings to light things we should be thinking about now before the technology gets even more ahead of our laws/ethics. What happens if one person (say a brother) wants to do something like this but another (say a second brother) does not want it to exist. Who decides? I think people should be putting rights to their "digital afterlife" in their wills (and I am sure some are). Real life sort of example is from Steven's (and mine) beloved Star Wars where Governor Tarkin is "acted" by Peter Cushing after his Death which is not exactly the same as this but is IMO in the same arena.
Another brilliant reaction. You two, your lives and experiences as a couple, bring so much to your reactions to this particular show. It's so often described as being about technology but it's actually about deep emotional connections between people, and how technology messes with them. You are a perfect couple to react to that.
This was my favorite episode acting wise for sure.
That was really tough to see you guys watch. I’m so sorry my loves.. This show really does make think and feel a lot of emotions. Great reaction loves!!
The rule you mentioned....
"Don't go to bed angry". I've always tried to live that way and I've taught my kids (who aren't kids anymore😊😊) that as a person who what's to have a life partner you need this rule in your relationship arsenal. Also, for the individual. If you're not with someone the rule still applies so basically it's sound advice all around.
I just noticed you guys were doing reactions for Black Mirror. The way I started watching you guys was when I would miss The Walking Dead. I've been away from your channel for a bit so this was a pleasant surprise that you've found your way to one of my favorite shows. I hope once you get caught up you fall in love with the show the way me and the Fam have.
Last, thank you for your work and I appreciate watching what you do. God Bless💗💙💗💙
"The real problem of humanity is the following: we have paleolithic emotions; medieval institutions; and god-like technology." -E. O. Wilson
You mentioned Harry Potter....he played Bill Weasley.
I agree with the point you made at the beginning of the video. A lot of people say that the message or theme of Black Mirror as an entire show is that “technology is bad” and whatnot - but I disagree. I think the overall message is about humanity and how humanity abuses and manipulates the powers that technology grants us, not the other way around.
Pretty much every episode is this show depresses me... but there are always those episodes that depress me a little more than the majority of the other episodes - this is one of those fo sho!
Domhnall Gleeson,,,great actor...check out his movie "About Time" with Rachel McAdams..it will definitely make Nikki cry
James Kalbaugh such an underrated movie. Honestly one of my fave movies ever
I don't think there's any episodes that are particularly happy but there are definitely some that are on the funnier side, or the more upbeat side and I was definitely mind blown at the end of almost all of them. Love that you're watching this series! Season 2 and 3 are my favorite of the series :D
Hayley Atwell should have won alllllll the awards for this episode. Seriously, she gives a master class.
One of the best reaction channels for sure. Cannot wait for more!
thank you!!!! we appreciate it.
This is one of my favorite episodes. It's creepy and unsettling but a pretty interesting exploration of grief and the limits of technology.
Easily one of my favorite episodes of Black Mirror. One minute I was close to tears and the next I was terrified the remade ash would harm Martha, then I was terrified she would jump and kill herself. I was wrecked after watching this since I could only think of my actual relationship in real life and how I would be if I lost someone in that way.
This is one of my favorite episodes. By the way, the actress Hayley Atwell played as Marvel's Agent (Peggy) Carter. What I like about the episode is that it shows you to what extent technology can evolve into in order to compensate for human frailty. Just think. There are human sex dolls that costs thousands of dollars that you can customize for every conceivable thing (satisfaction). This is really about how human emotions, feelings, events (like pregnancy) can cause a person to take things one step further. It is a boundary that is crossed when life and death are literally at a person's doorstep or threshold. This is difficult to just react to. Your thought process and the ability to put yourself in the other person's shoes has to be involved.
Anyone else excited for this week's Breaking Bad reactions? I know I am. Rewatching it has reminded me just how great it actually is.
Ubaidullah Ghanchi YEESSSSS
SAME BRO
Same here man!
Should I start the show?
Andre Montoya of course
Thinking back on this, that's why Ash's favorite song was "How Deep is Your Love"- hinting at the thematic analysis to this episode. Is your love for me deep enough to go THIS far.....
That was definitely one of the most emotionally stressful episodes of the series. More to come, though.
Having "SOMETHING" like that and that's a key word here would take everything from what was real about that actual person, eventually it would kill that person in your mind and that's the worst thing ever. We live and we die and that's a reality, not some substitute.
Most of the time, the death of a person is unexpected, people have a desire to spend a little more time with the deceased person and this program gives them a little bit of that. This futuristic multimedia helps people cope with the situation, accept reality and then move on and in the end that's what happen to her.
You have to look "him" as a combination and sophisticated content format. It's like watching a picture of a deceased person or video, in the past people didn't even have that, in the future it's very likely we will have this. This technology looks creepy to us, but I imagine our current technology would look creepy to people from the past.
You guys are amazing. I never thought I would have a go-to react channel, but you always have such great and interesting reactions.
Caprica , the prequel for Battlestar Glactica, had a similar theme. The cylons started out as replacements for your deceased loved ones & they used your online presence & all your online information to create an AI program that simulated your loved one.
This was my favorite episode until I accidentally skipped white Christmas and watched it last. I related to this episode because I could see myself falling down the rabbit hole of trying to cling on to whatever piece of a person I can get and it gradually escalating exactly how it did in this episode. It really hit home because most people ThINK or do know themselves enough to know they would be strong enough to move on but curiosity would get the best of me and I’d be addicted just like her. Btw the guy also played in Harry Potter - it was where I personally knew him from but when u guys were like Star Wars I was like maybe you hadn’t watched Harry Potter but then you brought up Harry Potter lol
Honestly can’t wait for you guys to see the next episode (white bear) because it’s one of my faves!
This is one of those instances where it sounds good on paper but in practice it isn't. When you are in an emotional state you aren't thinking about moving on. You want to be with the person that you love right then and there and you are willing to do anything to achieve that. But in time, you realize that moving on is an important part of the grieving process that we all have to go through as human beings. Anyway, I enjoyed this review from you guys because it gave us a little tidbit into you guys' relationship. It was sweet to watch it.
1:18 Rule 36: "If you feel like you are being played, you probably are". - L. J. Gibbs
Regarding the episode, I think this is one of the most creepy AND beautiful. I think the true "Black Mirror-y" part of this is the doll thing, but the chat application itself is something that I would both be afraid of and want to use in a situation like this, I believe. Of course, that only is if I knew of the existence of the app beforehand. IF this app existed and it was well known by people and rigidly controlled (like you can only chat 1h per week), I think it would be used: the user knows it isn't the real person, but it could still help or relieve some nostalgia once in a while.
I'm so sorry you lose him Nikki❤
God bless his soul
After I lost my mom, watching this episode is so painful and heartbreaking to me
I think at a low moment, recently after the loss, it would be very tempting to talk to the person. The whole, “let’s bring ‘em back” scenario...maybe not so much.
After this episode, I haven’t seen the rest of Black Mirror. So, I’m gonna watch the rest of them with you guys! Obviously, on my own first and then with y’all
I love you guys. Been watching your GoT and Breaking Bad reactions and now these. Thank you for posting them!!!
These are two of my favourite actors and I just want them to act in something cute together after this 😭
The look Steven gave Nikki when the sirens showed up is the same look I give my wife whenever a spouse dies in anything we watch lol
I'm starting to watch your 'Black Mirror' reactions from here, long story short; I've yet to watch the first season of 'Black Mirror'.
I'm so happy that you're reacting to this show, finally. Afer 'Westworld' it appeared to be the perfect fit to fill this time slot, which is why i voted for it. A devastating episode in many ways and a brilliant example of what Black Mirror does best, it makes you think.
I love both actors in this particular episode, so that was a joy for me too.
Thanks for the fantastic reaction, I really enjoy watching you guys react to these types of shows in particular. =)
Keep up the great work and I hope it didn't make you too sad, Nikki?
Hi guys, I love your channel. I think that the further you get with this show, the more you are going to find that you have lots to say after reflecting for a week. There is some stuff that sinks in pretty deep. Cheers!
finally getting around to black mirror and see that my favorite reacting couple also watched it three years back. so i like to watch your reaction after the show. you guys never watched battlestar galactica but the spinoff show, caprica, uses this same idea: take the sum total of a person's electronic records and online postings to come up with an AI that looks, talks, and thinks just like they would.
What makes BM so good is that it's almost real. It's like an exact replica of our reality but just slightly ahead. Normally when you see movies that are set in the future they show flying cars or jet packs maybe space craft visiting the new human colony on Mars.
BM ignores that stuff. It explores things that are real and could be very well real in a few years.
Morale of the story:
People's online presence isn't a realistic approximation of who they really are...Great acting & intense drama, but a good episode, if not difficult to watch.
See y'all on Tuesday! 😁💜
By the way...(and this is not a spoiler for any episodes I promise)...but the song the girl song in episode 2 on Hot Shots...(the girl who turned into a poem girl).. That song turns up in a lot of the episodes throughout the series in different seasons...also some of the characters turn up in different episodes as different characters...as you go through the episodes see what you can spot from other episodes....
This is my favorite episode.
This episode killed me. I could easily see myself doing what she did and trying to find some way of holding on to the parts of my partner that I could. But in the end, that would just leave me stuck and alone. She wouldn't be back but she wouldn't be gone, either.
I have not seen this show yet, have heard SO much about it!! I need to find the time, and start!!
14:27 Every question about Black mirror
General Hux and Peggy are great in this episode. This is the best in the series so far, for sure
I just found your reaction but alredy love you guys, Nikki youre so sweet
I’m glad they chose to go for a _somewhat bittersweet_ ending, I _fully_ expected it to end with Martha screaming and the cut to black indicating _she_ jumped.
Looks like ya'll started black mirror at the right time. Supposedly season 5 is gonna air on Netflix on dec 28th!
commenting before watching... very much looking forward to this, as per usual.
i love that i love the disquiet Black Mirror makes us feel. makes us consider so many things we'd never even countenance in real life, yet so many *are* real life situations (amended by Brooker's mind to the scenario)
i also love that i *hate* that it can make us feel that, *frequently* - Charlie Brooker is a bit of a genius imo.
tv is *supposed* to make you *feel* or at least the good stuff is.
this *is* the good stuff. 👍
The soundtrack of this episode reminds me of the movie "Take Shelter". I hope you've seen that one, it always brings a tear to my eye.
This was my first Black Mirror episode. Loved it.
So many times in these Black Mirror, N&S are going to be going WTF is happening and it is enjoyable to see their reaction when they understand. Next one is one of those big time.
If you guys haven’t seen “Ex Machina” yet, I highly recommend it. It also stars Domhnall Gleeson (General Hux) along with fellow Star Wars star Oscar Isaac (Poe Dameron). Very “Black Mirror”-ish and deals largely with AI while also exploring many other sci-fi/philosophical ideas and themes. Beautiful, brilliant, and terrifying.
I think it’s on Netflix.
If you end up liking it, also check out “Annihilation”, starring Natalie Portman. It’s by the same writer/director.
Nikki and Steven said : i'll be right back, when I exactly told a friend I'll be right back, and Steven goes: Someone is not gonna be right back... I take a seat :D
“Your disasters and flaws”
Someone gonna be sleeping on the couch tonight!
Definitely the best episode of the first two seasons.
All futures on this show are so insane.
Waiting eagerly for "White Bear" and "White Christmas".
The theme of the episode was, in the context of technology outpacing human behavior/emotions and us struggling with the consequences, about how something like that tech can FEEL like a cure for something as profound as grief. She did not make the call to 'bring him back' , even bit by bit, in her best state of mind. She was deep in extreme grief when she started talking to it, AFTER she just learned that she was pregnant. It's a hard thing to even comprehend, learning that you are about have a child, now alone, when your partner died so recently. Your mind will allow you to go to places like that, in that state. It's about addiction to the things technology can offer, in our most vulnerable states. And as the addiction, and our innate problem with facing reality or sadness as people come together, that scenario becomes possible. The real, actual now version of this hypothetical would be say... how someone suffering from extreme social anxiety or self esteem issues develops an unhealthy dependency on social media validation. You see that all the time, the lengths people will go to feel liked/loved/admired online. With something like grief... that can be a whole other thing.
Guys, Ash stars in 'Ex Machina' which I highly recommend if you haven't seen it.
Cant wait for next sunday! Episode 2 from Season 2 is one of my favorites!!!
Loved it! Watching this anew with you. Sorry I have been absent. Having surgery Tuesday.
Hope it goes well, wish you a speedy recovery 😊
hope everything is ok!! sending best wishes & a speedy recovery from N&S.
Nikki & Steven React thank you so much. I’m anticipating a good outcome, which should solve a long-standing issue. I will be watching your content while recovering. I never miss your videos. Happy holidays to you both and your daughters! Looking forward to sending your painting soon. I hope you love it.
This is another one that, as a widow, really disturbed me. There was a period of time where I would play old messages and videos, but I couldn't see myself ever doing anything like this.
This episode was like the tech version of Pet Sematary