Sinking of the MV Derbyshire
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- Опубликовано: 24 сен 2011
- Animation from a documentary describing the chain of events leading up to the quick sinking of the bulk carrier MV Derbyshire on the 9th September 1980 during typhoon orchid of the coast of Japan. All lives onboard where lost due to the speed at which these events took place.
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I was an Engineer cadet on her 2 years prior and sailed the same route with the same cargo. Some of my College mates and shipmates perished with her. RIP all.
Subsequent investigation has exonerated the crew as there is strong evidence of the fore hatch being lashed correctly and that the spare screw (mounted at the fore end starboard side) came loose during the descent and tore it off on its way past on its path to leaving the ship on the port side.
Iron ore is very dense and I remember looking down during loading and being amazed at the amount of space there was left in the hold after loading.
The hatches succumbed to the heavy seas leaving gaping holes and thousands of m3 of space to fill with water. The ship went down before a radio signal could be made, which demonstrates the stupidity of of any “survival” comments. If the Bridge watch-keeper (who would recognise what was happening and be the nearest person able to jump overboard) couldn’t survive, nobody could.
do you know why they didnt abandon ship?
Very sad.
Thank you. I am sorry this must be upsetting for you.
@@randomrazr It all happened in 2 minutes from start to finish.
Try this exercise. Stand straight up, start a 2 minute timer. Start tipping your body forward, flail your arms about, buckle your knees a time or 5 until you can't stand upright. Might come close to mimicking how difficult it is to navigate the narrow hallways and stairclimbs within a multi story cargo ships bridge to get outside to the lifeboats while it's shimmying, shaking and going vertical-sideways-overboard. In less than 2 minutes.
@@randomrazr They wouldn't have had time. This occurred at night in very heavy seas. The officer on watch wouldn't have been able to see properly. You are taught that the ship is your best lifeboat. However, launching lifeboats is not a quick procedure, and you have to remember the lifeboats back then were not covered. Try to imagine jumping into a 25- 30 for boat with no cover, and a miserable little diesel engine at best, and sailing in seas of 60 feet waves. The poor souls had no chance whatsoever
Creepy. I mean, gone in two minutes? With this animation, you're pretty much watching the sinking in real time.
Plus less than 1 hour when the first hatch cover was driven in.
@Jeremy Wiley all died?
@@idzpacz2909 Yes,42 crew and two officers wives,...
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I cant imagine how terrifying that must be, a ship silently fills with water. Next thing you know the whole thing starts to slip under. I cant imagine how those sailors were feeling.
Bruh, they couldnt swim they would just drown
This could not have been silent in any manner or sort. The crashing waves, the ripped metal, the implosions, this must have been devilish.
It would have been incredibly horrifying. They would have heard and felt the hatch covers going . From there it’s really unimaginable what they experienced
@@tomash9116 he probably ment the two vent pipes at the bow, the ship filling up in that regional area
@@danielfletcher1595 that is what I was going for
Jesus, so from the failure of the foremost hold-cover to the entire ship sinking beneath the waves was nearly shown in REAL TIME in this animation. There's no surviving that.
Henry Bemis oh no he didnt xd
HamburgerTime209
Nope. Takes 5 minutes to climb from engine bay to topside in ideal conditions. Impossible to do it the the bow at a 45 degree dive and such. Rip
It took 12 hours to fill the fore peak.
Well no it took a couple days for the vent cover to take in a lot of water
It's actually thought she sunk in seconds, not minutes. When she sunk, she was carrying iron ore. Because the density of it, some of her tanks were completely empty or had very little ore in them (because if all were full, she couldn't float at all because too much weight.). That's why so much water was able to get in. Either way, the crew was probably still asleep when she started to sink, and even with the 2 minute estimate no one could have ever survived. Scary stuff.
Their final moments would have been almost too horrifying to imagine.
To be inside and to hear that ship practically tear itself apart.. Truly cannot imagine what those men went through during those 2 minutes. R.I.P
And two wives
@@geoffmcrorie90 Very very sad. At least it was fairly quick.
I sailed on one of the sister ships to the Derbyshire. The MV Sir Alexander Glen. We passed over the last known location of the Derbyshire pretty much a year later. Carrying iron ore, and in very rough conditions, though not quite as severe as the Derbyshire, there wasn't too many atheists on board. We were all aware of cracks at beam 65 - just forward of the accommodation structure. Was very glad to get off her in Japan. I can only imagine what was going through the minds of the poor souls on the Derbyshire. RIP
Did the ship undergo any modifications to strengthen the beams and specially hatches? Was anything learned from the doomed sister ship?
Maybe they were thinking that they should’ve paid attention to the Edmund Fitzgerald a little more
I sailed on a sister ship to Derbyshire - the Tyne Bridge - a ship that I saw launched in 1970 at Haverton hill in Middlesbrough. This was my third trip to sea and I was 20 years old. I spent the rest of my working life working on merchant ships, mostly large oil tankers. In those 40 years I never saw a ship so badly constructed, poorly maintained and cack handedly operated as that Tyne Bridge. I have the wisdom and experience to realize now that that I was lucky to survive that trip.
A lot of bulkers those days were in poor condition, especially those flagged to registries less reputable to say the least. Was never aware just how badly affected bulk carriers were during the 1980s and 1990s until reading "Return of the Coffin Ships". By my count, even after that book was published about this topic (late 1990s), bulkers still wound up disappearing or sinking at a high rate up until at least 2006. I don't too often see big bulk carriers sink through poor quality alone (so excluding cargo liquefaction as happened to Nasco Diamond, Nur Allya, Emerald Star, etc.), but there was one major exception in 2017 when Stellar Daisy broke up in moderate weather.
The upright prow was the only intact section of the ship they ever found. The rest of the ship was destroyed by implosions and lies strewn across the ocean floor in over 2000 pieces.
It’s like a domino effect. One hold collapses, then the next, then the other 7 one by one until the stern separates from the ship because of implosions in each of the 9 holds. May the ones who died in this tragedy Rest In Piece.
No shit it says that
As it does it goes faster and faster.
My dad was one step away from going on it before it sank! Instead he swaped with someone who didnt want to go on a oil tanker. Its was twice the lenth and 3 times the width of the titanic!! No body on that ship survived! R.I.P
So who did he swap with? That guy must've died!
I sailed with a guy who swapped his watch with a guy on the Herald Of Free Enterprise a passenger car ferry. By watch I mean there is one crew working one week and then they go off and another crew come aboard and do exactly the same jobs in all of the positions. The man he swapped with died when the ship turned over.
your dad is very lucky that he didn't go on that oil tanker and become a victim!!!
kris horabin I’ll get more lives to die now >:3
This is pure lies.
After serving on capsize bulk carriers myself...this is Horrific- poor people.
deepsea what do you mean by serving on capsize bulk carrier I am now interested in what you do?
Idk what to use probably been on bulk carriers that capsized
@@drewcarll5431 He probably means Capesize.
@@chiefdoesgaming8269 Correct! Capesize bulker.
So sad, scary, poor people... Shows the power of the ocean, swallowing an enormous ship in a matter of seconds...
actually, the entirety of the sinking took about 14 hours to fill the hold and the vent and the balast. The final blunge, (all the hatches imploding) took 3 minutes.
Matter of seconds, huh? Nice job bub.
This is similar to what happened to Titanic’s stern as it descended. It was still filled with air, and it was descending fractured end first, which caused it to violently implode and tear itself apart. That’s why it looks like a bomb went off at the sterns wreck site.
Damn, only 2 minutes. No wonder there weren't any survivors.
+Paul Edwards, is that right? Well, they were sentenced to their deaths, then.
Hey Mommy! LOOK! I can use vulgar language and not have dad beat the crap out of me! Ain't I clever! I feel just like a grown up!
+BaconOddity, yeah, but it DID sink in two minutes, didn't it?
Yeah, back at you, buddy. ;)
BaconOddity The video is real time you idiot
+Patrick. From 1:20 onwards
May the crew rest in peace. If you'd have been aboard, you would have heard (& possibly felt) the forward cargo spaces imploding. A terrifying final couple of minutes.
Wow. And this is a real-time animation.
The audio quality is excellent!
This audio quality is my favorite ever
Ugh, sarcasm. The video quality is terrible and no audio, but it explains how the ship sank
E Aird this comment was made 5 years ago
@@thetexan.engineer974 if you look at the date of the animation in the bottom right at the beginning of the video, you find that it was made on September 3rd 1998. You really shouldn't expect any better from a video of this age.
It is better than having some loud crappy dramatic music playing in the background.
Even if anyone managed to get off, there's no way to survive those seas in a life boat.
Thats true.. I think the same..
We don’t have titanic lifeboats so there was a chance they DID survive on a lifeboat if they could acquire one.
@@sirankleknocker3122 Dude, I spent a fair amount of time working on the ocean, as a kid. Estimates put 80ft seas over the bow of the Derbyshire. That's no laughing matter for any ship.
RW4X4X3006 80ft waves? That’s brutal!
@@sirankleknocker3122 If 80ft was the average, then there were plenty slamming into that ship that were larger - If they managed to keep the bow on to ride it out, one or two 100 ft sneakers slamming broadside would spin them out of control. Not able to change tack in a trough would finish them quickly in seas that monstrous.
But this ship can't sink?!
She's made of iron, sir, I assure you she can.. and she will..
Mr. Andrews would be pleased.. It is afterall... a mathematical certainty!
someone needs a afternoon nap. they get all cranky when they are over tired.
BaconOddity dude take a rest, it's a Titanic quote -_-
BaconOddity
Triggered much?
its the cause of The Devil's Triangle
ruclips.net/video/eoHD3VfhYxo/видео.html This is a video of the MV Stellar Banner been scuttled. She is about 46m longer than Derbyshire. Once those holds fill with water these carriers sink like a stone. This video gives you an idea of how quickly Derbyshire would've gone down.
The sinking transpired in around two minutes? TWO minutes! I'm utterly gobsmacked that a ship that size can sink that fast!
Rest in peace crew.
I was part of the RN search team on RFA Stromness worse weather I ever saw at sea I recall you could see daylight beneath the frigates as they bounced from wave to wave ( we happened to be in the area at the time !) poor sods !
Two minutes....might as well start singing nearer my god to thee, man...two minutes....I can't even fathom that. A huge ship, massive ship already headed to the bottom in two short minutes. The only thing I can hope for is that it was quick for them. And it was probably better t go down with the ship because being in a life boat on those seas would be terribly worse way to go.
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I don’t agree, the ship is gone no way to survive on it cause it will go, no matter how hard the waves hit the lifeboats you would be more likely to survive.
The ship was actually sinking for about 13 or so hours.
Aren’t the lifeboats sealed
or at least hollowed out
like, those orange lifeboats
They’re fully sealed, so they could probably survive.
@@sirankleknocker3122 Assuming the ship had them in the first place. Remember that for a while, life boats were essentially rubber rafts and not much else. Newer boats are more sturdy, and far more likely to survive rough seas (they're built for it after all), but they aren't that common, and even on the ships that do have them it's not easy for everyone to get to the boat, especially in just two minutes.
Thanks for video!
This is why it's now an instant sounding the Abandon Ship alarm if the water ingress alarms go off in the holds of Bulkers. Was asked the same question on my OOW & Chiefs orals exams.
If the crew on the bridge saw anything that night, it would be seeing the front of the ship not come up from beneath those waves, and considering how fast it was, they must've shit themselves
There must’ve been some sign on the bridge that something was wrong. An alarm sounding, anything.
For those in peril..... It's just amazing this doesn't happen more often. RIP.
I Sailed on her sister ship the Sir John Hunter when she made her maiden voyage form Bremerhaven to Norfolk Virginia and stayed onboard for 2 years….. what a loss for the families.
If I see water waves consistently covering any part of the ship, I think that's the cue for me to make camp in the lifeboat.
If waves are covering top of a massive oil tanker, you think a little life boat is gonna fare well in that?
@@iwontreplybacklol7481 Those lifeboats are more like a capsule. They're not going to take on water to sink. But it's gonna be bumpy for sure.
@@busybillyb33 Not the ones on the Derbyshire. She still had old fashioned rowboat style lifeboats
My right ear really enjoys the audio quality XD
I thought my headphones broke
Does it? Good for you ya sarcastic twat
@@Your2TiminEx Daaaaamn. You're saltier than the Ocean that swallowed the Derbyshire. I guess your mom should have swallowed too.
No man can build a ship that a storm can't sink.
As a Naval Architect and ex seaman I would have welded every aperture shut before the bloody storm hit !!
Exactly Right.
I have read most of the official report released after the 1996 surveys: The main engine was not identified… the superstructure housing the wheel house and crew lodgings is upside down and severely crushed. All of the hatch covers are buckled, broken or folded over. The isolated bow, though largely intact, has a large crack along a joist attaching it to the no.1 hold, which could have been caused by a violent shift of wet iron ore slamming into the ballast tank.
I honestly think the implode and explode would've happened a bit deeper tbh. If you look at the titanic stern survivors said they heard a bag noise 20 or so seconds after it went under. Same thing I think happened here. R.I.P to the 44 people aboard her.
Everytime these cargo ships and I mean massive cargo ships try to dodge a massive rotating monster in one of our oceans on this planet it always ends in fatal destruction. They had no time to survive that event.
What documentary was this from? I love the aesthetic of old videos like this and I’d like to watch the whole thing.
Her sister ship KOWLOON BRIDGE,had the same design fault in the weld below the accomodation. The derbyshire and kowloon bridge suffered the same breakage.What you see on this video is a cover up between Lord Bibby and Lioyds of London.
andrew latchford yes everyone knows that it had a fault this video puts it all down to a typhoon thats why they did not want to find the ship
Kowloon Bridge lost it's rudder and broke it's back on rocks off the coast of Ireland. Nothing to do with welding my friend.
andrew latchford yeah this is wrong the Kowloon bridge did break at rib 65 but it ran aground first the Derbyshire took on water and sank causing it to implode it didn’t break apart go watch the documentary
I could not agree more, cover up from start to finish.If still available read Captain David Ramwells excellent book' A Ship too Far'.
Omg you thundering half Witt. Read the transcript from the numerous enquiries. Nothing to do with design faults at bulkheads. Stop this conspiracy nonsense
Shit, rather be on the Titanic
Yeah, people knock it for sinking on it's first trip but that was mostly down to user error not a design fault. Titanic was clearly better designed than this hopeless ship.
To be fair the titanic never had to deal with 25 m waves or 100mph typhoon winds
me too for sure
me to
@@KiwiPowerNZ I'm not sure the RMS Titanic would have fared much better in conditions like this for a sustained period of time.
I’m surprised there hasn’t been a movie or a book about this. It would be interesting.
And here I was thinking modern giant ships are at least safe from weather
This is why they have freefall lifeboats on these kinds of ships. Conventional lifeboats would not be able to be launched quickly enough to abandon ship before it sank. Freefall lifeboats can be launched in seconds right up until the ship goes down.
It was during a typhoon lifeboats wouldn't have helped
@Paddy Mcdoogle all enquiries completely exhonerated the master and crew actions. The master followed ALL protocol to the letter
I don't know if those lifeboats would've stayed afloat in those seas.
Back and back there's no stopping it
Two minutes, a massive ship, taken away in just 2 minutes, desintegrating it in the process.
The sinking of Derbyshire is way faster than this video we just watched
i like your video.
Gone in 2 minutes? jesus you will literally not survive that. Rest in Peace to the victims of the Derbyshire, Theyre in a better place now.
In a raging typhoon with waves well over 10 meters high I doubt even the lifeboats would have been able to cope with that
Cant imagine how terrifying it mustve been to look death in the face like that sheeesh.
Tragic, I remember this.
God bless them all. The sea is unforgiving with it's force. RIP.
Wow, what a sad sinking. Well, what am I saying? Every sinking of any ship is tragic.
Its not.. Luckily Sinking of Oceanos wasnt tragic.. Cos surprisingly noone died..
@@jonbonesmahomes7472 noone was even injured
The weather when she went down was horrendous. We were in the same storm our ship was battered loosing containers. The mast was bent and the funnel wrecked. The ship was listing heavily due to frozen ice onboard. We were ordered to don life jackets. Luckily the ship stayed afloat and we limped into port. I was frightened and 🙏for the lost souls on that fateful day. Maybe Davy Jones wasn’t ready for me🙈 I’m still at sea and ❤ my kid as chief 👨🍳
why do i remember watching this long time ago?
Two minutes is plenty of time to make a distress call, but none was made. It wouldn't have made a difference because the ship and its crew were doomed as soon as that first hatchway gave in. Still, why no call? Overwhelmed by terror? Resigned acceptance? A panicked scramble for the lifeboats and/or life preservers? Or did the ship sink even faster than those two minutes?
Heyy may i use the footage in one of my videos?
Poseidon: "You can't park there, mate"
At 2:19, the two cranes looked like they both jumped off the ship
When people say "Worse things happen at sea" This is the sort of thing they're talking about.
Ballast tanks without a pump? Great idea.
door: *opens*
water: not my fault
Why were they sailing in this weather to begin with?
They got three different weather reports, each specifying the typhoon in different places. The captain tried to go around all of them. Kind of bad luck.
First time I watched this I thought it said it took 2 seconds, I am glad I re watched it.
It would be impossible to sink in 2 secs, until..
The SS Edmund Fitzgerald when down in similar conditions she also lost forward vents and was lost with all hands to sad.
What happened here is obvious.
Nothing could’ve stopped this, except for delays, and the ship turning around, which would probably get the captain reprimanded ( anyone who fires a captain who runs from those kinds of waves is insane in my book ).
Aside from that, nothing could be done.
Evening if they noticed the large waves before the hatch cover, nothing could’ve been done. Those waves would’ve sunk the lifeboats.
And by the time they actually noticed it, when they saw, or most likely heard the first one collapse, it would’ve been too late to do anything.
Launching a boat = Impossible.
At that point, I’d just put myself in a lifeboat, and sit in it with my crewmates as it went down.
Derbyshire is such a good name too.
So basically, 1:20 through 3:00 is how fast the ship sank in real time, the forward tanks took 12 hours to fill according to the simulation, just think about that. It sank so quickly!
I got offered the Derbyshire when i was a kid,am i so glad i knocked it back and ended up sailing on another ship.
Why weren’t they informed by some type of sensor or alarm that the front ballast tank had filled they could have then turned on their pumps and pumped it out saving them
Lucky The Wolf I agree with what you said. I also want to add that the crew would’ve probably had a hard time activating the pumps anyway. Besides, it would only get harder as time progressed.
They would have had to do emergency hatch and vent cover replacement, and pumped the water out to survive.
Dude it was the 80s
@@fast-toast pretty sure there was alarms back on the 80s and pumps back in the 80s
Christ the pressure that must be needed to burst one of those hatches must be incredible they are solid metal about 2ft thick
I think you mean two inches. Even that might be a bit to much. Still a lot of pressure to do that kind of damage though.
2ft thick?! Nonsense.
Its what happens when the double hull is filled with air then surrounded with tons of pressure from the water itself it implodes on its self in a violent chain reaction
So if they are correct regarding the time from hatch 1 collapsing then this video is almost like real time of the sinking 😨
The dislikes were from my left ear
This looks like some superb design failure. I mean think about it: All that had to happen to set the disaster in motion was the loss of the hatch cover. After that, disaster could take it course.
Yes , the entry point. How the cover was designed and locked. Nothing of that showed here.
the liverpool bridge was it real name built at haverton ship yard port clarence launched 05/12/ 1975
The forward tanks imploded at a shallow depth. Maybe the ship could have stayed afloat longer if forward structures hadn't been damaged by implosion effects.
What the video isn’t showing you was the DerbyShire easily fitted on the downside of the wave in that storm. The weight of water that eventually rolled across her was I have to tell you as tall as a building.
It's ALWAYS the cargo hold!
When the cargo holds submerged lids cave in thus allowing water to fill each chamber, why would the ship implode continually? Once the holds are full, isn’t the pressures equal?
Not the Ballast tanks though and they were the ones imploding and tearing the hull apart in the process.
That was violent
This video is wrong. Just watched the documentary and did some research. It was not the forward hatch cover. The rough seas ripped off the forward air vent covers and the sea water entered through there over a period of almost a day. There was no way the captain or crew could have seen this from the bridge especially in that kind of weather. Even if they had seen the vent covers missing in seas that rough there would be no way to try to fix the problem without being washed overboard.
The captain and crew were in no way at fault here, just a very unfortunate freak accident.
May they rest in peace.
I wish they could make a similar ship design to this because they looked really nice.
Wow!
God have mercy on their souls may they be able to pass through heaven and not to hell
A pretty brutal way a carrier could sink.
But this ship can’t sink?! she’s made of metal sir I assure you she can and she will
This is a small ship in a big sea
this was posted on my bday
Same!
Good lord, you'd think they made this ship out of paper considering how fast it went down.
Wow...
Making this in sinking simulator!
But was the stores hatch cover correctly fastened for the storm?
CreedOfHeresy
I thought ships had to be proofed, or vetted carefully before they were built and the same for passing Q.C. standards before launching or seaworthy tested, how could anyone sail a boat in this condition? And surly the sailors would have warned one another had they know about this ship?
CreedOfHeresy
Well said, that's why the entire famblies of the principle executives need to be killed for it. And they think government is too big (i.e. effective) and controlling points like that. I think the vent system was the main catalyst though.
ama right a song about this
Sounds like Michael Jayston doing the narration. What a wonderful voice for a horrible topic.
Yup, almost 100% certain it's him.
Two quick minutes to disaster. No time for a mayday, no time to launch the lifeboats. Two quick minutes, and all hands lost.
This was uploaded on my birthday!
oh do shut up
How did they not notice?
Wasn't the cause found in one of her sister ships that was in dry dock in Holland .. which the cause was the rivets would crack in cold temperature thus causing the midships to break in half
colintraveller no and if you listen to this they tell you exactly why it sinks
My left ear is jealous of my right ear
Truly horrible, they didn't stand a chance. The physics of this 'explanation', however, is way short of sound and satisfactory.
What do you mean how was i offered it,i was in the merchant navy and i was offered the chance to sail on her but i knocked it back and sailed on an other ship.