4:54 What a fool. Those books weren't dealing with those subjects! the four gospels ask different questions. Matthew asked the question "What did Jesus say?". Hence almost 70 percent of Matthew is composed of the words of Jesus. Mark answers the question "What did Jesus do?". Luke answers the question "Who followed Jesus?". And John answers the question "Who was Jesus?". You have four different audiences. Matthew was written to the Jews. Mark to the Gentiles. Luke to the Greeks John to the Christians. Matthew, Mark and Luke are called the Synoptic Gospels because they deal with Christ's ministry to the public in Galilee. John deals with Christs Ministry privately to his disciples in Judea. So that Matthew Mark Luke do not mention for example Lazarus.
Angelo needs to know what the trinity means, to baptize in the name of the father, the son and the holy spirit doesn't constitute that Jesus was a trinitarian or that he thought the trinity, the trinity doctrine was thought way after Jesus died.
Where does Jesus say to teach the Trinity? There are a lot of doctrines that don't have one single verse. That's what doctrine are. You assemble concepts. Omniscience, ,omnipresence, omnipotent, inerrancy and trinity are doctrines with terms that are coined to define them that you back up with versus. Jesus didn't introduce himself as "Hi Im God and I'm a trinity. Disciples would have ran away. Trinity wasn't something they would have knew or understood until they saw it for themselves. Bible is a progressive revelation and Jesus was revealing himself so Disciples would discover who he was using OT versus, His actions, and His direct claims. Jesus did say : John 14:26 "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you. " and John 16:11-12 “I still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth, for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come. " Remember the doctrine of the trinity and incarnation wasn't complete until Jesus died and Rose. Then everything came together. It was unfolding as Jesus lived. Jesus knew after He died and the Holy Spirit would come and guide them to the truth which the person of the Holy Spirit did. Simple explanation: Here is the Trinity doctrine in six biblically based propositions: There is one, and only one, God (1 Timothy 2:5). The person of the Father is God (2 Peter 1:17). The person of the Son is God (Titus 2:13). The person of the Holy Spirit is God (Acts 5:3-4). The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are distinct and simultaneously distinguishable persons (Luke 3:22). The three persons (Father or God; and Son or Christ or Lord; and Holy Spirit or Spirit) are frequently listed together in a triadic pattern of unity and equality (John 14:26). Thus, the Trinity doctrine is derived directly from the content of Scripture. Though the apostles of Jesus were Jewish monotheists who believed strictly in one God, they nevertheless recognized that two other persons (the Son and the Holy Spirit) were spoken of as God. All three persons possessed the qualities and prerogatives of deity. The apostles therefore modified traditional Jewish monotheism in light of the revelation concerning the Son (Jesus Christ) and the Holy Spirit www.reasons.org/articles/thinking-about-the-trinity-one-what-and-three-whos www.godandscience.org/doctrine/trinity.html www.godandscience.org/doctrine/fathrgod.html www.godandscience.org/doctrine/songod.html www.godandscience.org/doctrine/spiritgod.html
Good day, Do you agree all Scripture has to cohere, if it is God's word? If so, if it is three persons, one God, why did Paul say that the "head of the Christ is God"? (1Corinthians 11:3) Regards.
Tony kept saying where did Jesus teach the trinity? One thing you can mention is where did Jesus teach: governing body, a 2 class system, 1914, michael the archangel being himself, and kingdom hall, cumpulsary works? Sadly that probably wont help, but thats the circular reasoning of questions you can try. I really appreciate your hard work Tony. :-)
Good day! Jesus did not. His "Father" did through his "holy spirit". But to stay on topic, where did Jesus say *explicitly* I am Almighty God? Regards.
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4:54 What a fool. Those books weren't dealing with those subjects!
the four gospels ask different questions.
Matthew asked the question "What did Jesus say?".
Hence almost 70 percent of Matthew is composed of the words of Jesus.
Mark answers the question "What did Jesus do?".
Luke answers the question "Who followed Jesus?".
And John answers the question "Who was Jesus?".
You have four different audiences.
Matthew was written to the Jews.
Mark to the Gentiles.
Luke to the Greeks
John to the Christians.
Matthew, Mark and Luke are called the Synoptic Gospels because they deal with Christ's ministry to the public in Galilee.
John deals with Christs Ministry privately to his disciples in Judea.
So that Matthew Mark Luke do not mention for example Lazarus.
Angelo needs to know what the trinity means, to baptize in the name of the father, the son and the holy spirit doesn't constitute that Jesus was a trinitarian or that he thought the trinity, the trinity doctrine was thought way after Jesus died.
Angelo
I just heard the first 5 minutes, and my friend, the JW just schooled you.
Regards.
Where does Jesus say to teach the Trinity?
There are a lot of doctrines that don't have one single verse. That's what doctrine are. You assemble concepts. Omniscience, ,omnipresence, omnipotent, inerrancy and trinity are doctrines with terms that are coined to define them that you back up with versus. Jesus didn't introduce himself as "Hi Im God and I'm a trinity. Disciples would have ran away. Trinity wasn't something they would have knew or understood until they saw it for themselves. Bible is a progressive revelation and Jesus was revealing himself so Disciples would discover who he was using OT versus, His actions, and His direct claims.
Jesus did say :
John 14:26 "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you. "
and John 16:11-12
“I still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth, for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come. "
Remember the doctrine of the trinity and incarnation wasn't complete until Jesus died and Rose. Then everything came together. It was unfolding as Jesus lived. Jesus knew after He died and the Holy Spirit would come and guide them to the truth which the person of the Holy Spirit did.
Simple explanation: Here is the Trinity doctrine in six biblically based propositions:
There is one, and only one, God (1 Timothy 2:5).
The person of the Father is God (2 Peter 1:17).
The person of the Son is God (Titus 2:13).
The person of the Holy Spirit is God (Acts 5:3-4).
The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are distinct and simultaneously distinguishable persons (Luke 3:22).
The three persons (Father or God; and Son or Christ or Lord; and Holy Spirit or Spirit) are frequently listed together in a triadic pattern of unity and equality (John 14:26).
Thus, the Trinity doctrine is derived directly from the content of Scripture. Though the apostles of Jesus were Jewish monotheists who believed strictly in one God, they nevertheless recognized that two other persons (the Son and the Holy Spirit) were spoken of as God. All three persons possessed the qualities and prerogatives of deity. The apostles therefore modified traditional Jewish monotheism in light of the revelation concerning the Son (Jesus Christ) and the Holy Spirit
www.reasons.org/articles/thinking-about-the-trinity-one-what-and-three-whos
www.godandscience.org/doctrine/trinity.html
www.godandscience.org/doctrine/fathrgod.html
www.godandscience.org/doctrine/songod.html
www.godandscience.org/doctrine/spiritgod.html
Good day,
Do you agree all Scripture has to cohere, if it is God's word? If so, if it is three persons, one God, why did Paul say that the "head of the Christ is God"? (1Corinthians 11:3)
Regards.
@@MC-to3ry The holy spirit is God's active force; not a person. Also Psalms 83:18:...Jehovah alone is the Most High over all the earth.
Yes! Absolutely! Very well said!
Tony kept saying where did Jesus teach the trinity? One thing you can mention is where did Jesus teach: governing body, a 2 class system, 1914, michael the archangel being himself, and kingdom hall, cumpulsary works?
Sadly that probably wont help, but thats the circular reasoning of questions you can try. I really appreciate your hard work Tony. :-)
Good day!
Jesus did not. His "Father" did through his "holy spirit".
But to stay on topic, where did Jesus say *explicitly* I am Almighty God?
Regards.