Ngl I started ow when ow2 released and Moria felt so op, just huge suck range that you don’t really need to aim combo that with a orb and I was taking down tanks solo. Then I finally made it out of bronze 😂
Problem with most Moria players is they don’t utilize Moria’s insane sustain. When you’re contesting a whole team, you’ll want to use the healing orb. Moria is incredibly difficult to kill with her life steal, healing orb sustaining her and her fade to bail her out. Damage orb can help with picks but if that orb gets thrown and you don’t get any kills, it’s a complete waste imo. Keeping yourself alive is much more valuable than risking the pick
@@ChimpRevolution depends, if you're using it and you have ult sometimes that fade behind followed by a damage orb hurled at the enemy before hand to maximise damage. Or a healing orb to be disruptive. Should leave you with enough time to get out and get your fade back.
@@Gibi92 for sure I'm mostly talking about the moira's that don't have ult and will throw a damage orb to chase a kill in a 1v5. Sometimes they get the kill but they have no cooldowns to escape and die anyways. Usually not a good trade especially if you don't trade supports it's basically a lost fight with 1 support down. But certain cases it's ok
I was the torbjorn! thanks for the tips and practice, and the opportunity to contribute to your content like this. I'm trying to make my push to silver today. Great game on Blizzard world-- thanks for letting me C9 you :)
@@littleorchid4097 I dunno about "the best" she was definitely good, but I feel like the Ana, and the Bastion were really pulling their weight there, Ana hit some nice sleeps, and was pretty aggressive with some of her nades, and the Bastion seemed to have pretty decent tracking and cool-down management for a Bronze player. all-in-all most of the team was pretty solid.
well here's a couple of moira kinda pro tips: you can do a "fade jump" which allows for a great movement boost and a bit of vertical gameplay. moiras ult charges faster if you heal your teammates or yourself with a heal orb and healing orb is actually better when going for a 1v1 or 1v2 if you're skilled and bold enough
And also he always throws the healing orb straight down so he hardly gets any healing from it whereas he should throw it against walls so that he has constant healing from it
@@gabrielpuusepp4483 throwing it down is better because the orb will go slower and by the time its going up the orb will be depleted so you will get full use out of it
@@deionsap9108 you dont i tested it and you get around 120 healing out of it whereas the orb can heal up to 200, and also if you dont need the healing exactly when you throw it, its better to throw it against a wall so that in a few seconds when you do need healing it will be back at you. I played only moira until masters
The second round was 100% winnable if you stop lobbing damage orbs for DVa to eat, and instead focused on charging your ult. If you deliberately took damage and used healing orb to charge ult, I bet you could have easily had twice as many ults and those are what won you fights. I'd love to know what DVa's damage mitigation stat was at the end, since it would 100% just be orb eats.
I feel like de meching the dva and just leaving her like that would be useful since its a lot harder of them to build ult since theres only one person they can build it from so dva would be without matrix for a ling time
@@70nathan71 You're forgetting Zen's two biggest strengths: damage and range, both of which Moira lacks. Compared to Zen, Moira tickles. At 2.5x damage, his base body shot orb does a whopping 120 WITHOUT discord. Factor in discord orb, and he's doing 150 damage for a bodyshot. Enough to one tap a Tracer. If he headshots a DPS, they're all instantly deleted except for Bastion. As for tanks, he can easily farm them for headshots. Most tanks will fall to 3-4 headshots which should be easy to get, with the added benefit of Zen damage having no drop off, AND he can charge a volley. Also people seem to underestimate his survivability. Sure he doesn't have a self-heal, but the support passive helps him a ton. Additionally, he has a massive amount of shields. He does 37.5HP/s due to the 2.5x after not taking damage for 1.5 seconds, and after 3 seconds, it jumps up to 57.5HP/s. Not only that, his ult makes him immune to all damage and fully heals him as well as gives him a speed boost to gain superior positioning. You're really underestimating Zen's potential.
Heck yes! I love these games so much!! Also I think a dva sombra for Moira would be a good counter. Same with zarya only because of grav with you being buffed.
Definitely the last game. He didn’t fade again. He also never used a rebounding self heal orb, and instead kept throwing damage orbs that were immediately eaten.
I really want to start trying to get golden guns, but I'm honestly traumatized by comp from the first game. Is comp any better in OW 2? Ok update: just finished my third comp game and got 32 kills as Orisa.
Moira tip: DON'T TROW YOUR ORB RIGHT DOWN, it'll pass for you and the enemies so fast, and u actually won't use it and u will fell much more the cdr of the abilitie
@@mr_heffy2576 really? No ability used they just have a pistol and grind until ult and then pistol only again and then fly for 15 secs and then it repeats again
so many chances of getting out alive if the damage orb didn't share coldown with the heal orb and we had the weakness orb still... oh well, i miss the best buff moira ever got.
I want to see this kind of vid but ever game the buffed player wins the teams ranks go up so first game vs bronze second silver so on and so on until the buffed player loses
I tried out tik tok Moria last week. I've been addicted ever since. I watched my partner play and all I seen was blood. They're was only prey for me to sukkk! My best game was 11k damaged and 10k healing 29 elems 16 assist 9 death
The buff gives too much damage for them to be trying to heal it. Best to have tried to do as much damage and cc as possible. Zenny and Anna would've probably been the best support they could've gone. A junk rat for his trap and burst dps. Sombra would be a good 2nd dps. A sig probably was the best tank choice cause he can block while shooting and cc. Bronze or not they definitely still could've won this matchup with just the right characters.
still real early in the vid but honestly I think the best tank choice for the bronzes would be maybe Rein or Hog. even with double stats it would be really hard for Moira to chew through them and they get the added bonus of being able to cancel her ult. gonna watch the rest now to see if they get there
How every dps moira sees themselves
When team is worse than enemy team then it do feel like that yeah
I see no lie
Correction this is how every dps Moira is
Ngl I started ow when ow2 released and Moria felt so op, just huge suck range that you don’t really need to aim combo that with a orb and I was taking down tanks solo. Then I finally made it out of bronze 😂
Oh no
Problem with most Moria players is they don’t utilize Moria’s insane sustain. When you’re contesting a whole team, you’ll want to use the healing orb. Moria is incredibly difficult to kill with her life steal, healing orb sustaining her and her fade to bail her out.
Damage orb can help with picks but if that orb gets thrown and you don’t get any kills, it’s a complete waste imo. Keeping yourself alive is much more valuable than risking the pick
Facts or moira's that use fade to jump into enemy backlines by themselves and get blown up
fr in most 1v1s as moira I'll choose my healing orb over the damage orb and just tank the damage
@@ChimpRevolution depends, if you're using it and you have ult sometimes that fade behind followed by a damage orb hurled at the enemy before hand to maximise damage. Or a healing orb to be disruptive. Should leave you with enough time to get out and get your fade back.
@@Gibi92 for sure I'm mostly talking about the moira's that don't have ult and will throw a damage orb to chase a kill in a 1v5. Sometimes they get the kill but they have no cooldowns to escape and die anyways. Usually not a good trade especially if you don't trade supports it's basically a lost fight with 1 support down. But certain cases it's ok
That is because u don’t play in console where everyone can melt u because of aim assist.
I was the torbjorn! thanks for the tips and practice, and the opportunity to contribute to your content like this. I'm trying to make my push to silver today. Great game on Blizzard world-- thanks for letting me C9 you :)
cringe torb player
@@willfraud tbh he had to do it. LITERAL BUFFED MOIRA THAT CANNOT LIFE STEAL FROM ANY TURRET
I was one of the support in this game!! Such a great opportunity and it was so much fun :)
Been waiting for this one for a long time. Shout out to the boys behind the scenes, keep up the good work
That Dva had no idea what was happening 90% of the time
She did the most work stopping the kart tbf
@@ollie1505 And ate the majority of his orbs too. For a bronze player? That's decent!
But they looked like a gold player. Any tank player that knows about escaping is better than any hard stuck bronze tank
Dva was the best player there
@@littleorchid4097 I dunno about "the best" she was definitely good, but I feel like the Ana, and the Bastion were really pulling their weight there, Ana hit some nice sleeps, and was pretty aggressive with some of her nades, and the Bastion seemed to have pretty decent tracking and cool-down management for a Bronze player.
all-in-all most of the team was pretty solid.
“Was my timing off?” Yea only by a lot though
well here's a couple of moira kinda pro tips:
you can do a "fade jump" which allows for a great movement boost and a bit of vertical gameplay.
moiras ult charges faster if you heal your teammates or yourself with a heal orb and healing orb is actually better when going for a 1v1 or 1v2 if you're skilled and bold enough
And also he always throws the healing orb straight down so he hardly gets any healing from it whereas he should throw it against walls so that he has constant healing from it
@@gabrielpuusepp4483 throwing it down is better because the orb will go slower and by the time its going up the orb will be depleted so you will get full use out of it
@@deionsap9108 you dont i tested it and you get around 120 healing out of it whereas the orb can heal up to 200, and also if you dont need the healing exactly when you throw it, its better to throw it against a wall so that in a few seconds when you do need healing it will be back at you. I played only moira until masters
@@gabrielpuusepp4483 ohh aight
@@gabrielpuusepp4483 wow thats sad. I hope youre fine now .-.
Ive never seen a more wholesome strimmer complementing their gameplay while destroying them 😂
I don’t get it, this just looks like how Moira normally performs at low ranks.
The Torb and Dva picks were clutch. Keep getting little hits to stop the passive heals on the solo Moira. Good jobe bronzes!
The second round was 100% winnable if you stop lobbing damage orbs for DVa to eat, and instead focused on charging your ult. If you deliberately took damage and used healing orb to charge ult, I bet you could have easily had twice as many ults and those are what won you fights.
I'd love to know what DVa's damage mitigation stat was at the end, since it would 100% just be orb eats.
I never thought I’d see a Moira pov with such good aim, holy shit.
Amount of Moira ults look really op tho, even against a 1v5
We love that Emongg still uses his tips
This is absolutely sinister and I can’t wait to watch it😂❤
Dude the diva just pissed me off. So passive. Be on Moira's face! CHARGE!
Man, these players will definitely get better and better after these games
Should try this series with 3-4x stats against diamonds or above. Or get a second person like KarQ and do 2-2.5
next video: 5 bronze players vs 1 Battle Mercy
This is the Moira that bronze players think they're fighting against
I feel like de meching the dva and just leaving her like that would be useful since its a lot harder of them to build ult since theres only one person they can build it from so dva would be without matrix for a ling time
I would love for them to make this a real arcade mode, called juggernaut or whatever
I love how he holds back a little to get more game time and pretend he's playing badly unintentionally :)
nice to see emongg fulfilling the diva pact
We want to see the buffed emongg widow
What was that yellow damage orb you threw? Ive never seen that thing.
0:28 was that orb smart ? no was it super cool and defintely would do it again ? hell yeah !
I really wanna see how a zen 1v5 would play out
ana at 2.5 will onewshot 200hp targets. what a blast
zen will be hard to survive if they pile up
It would be really bad, zen doesn't have any abilities he can use except maybe his ult
@@70nathan71 You're forgetting Zen's two biggest strengths: damage and range, both of which Moira lacks.
Compared to Zen, Moira tickles. At 2.5x damage, his base body shot orb does a whopping 120 WITHOUT discord. Factor in discord orb, and he's doing 150 damage for a bodyshot. Enough to one tap a Tracer. If he headshots a DPS, they're all instantly deleted except for Bastion. As for tanks, he can easily farm them for headshots. Most tanks will fall to 3-4 headshots which should be easy to get, with the added benefit of Zen damage having no drop off, AND he can charge a volley.
Also people seem to underestimate his survivability. Sure he doesn't have a self-heal, but the support passive helps him a ton. Additionally, he has a massive amount of shields. He does 37.5HP/s due to the 2.5x after not taking damage for 1.5 seconds, and after 3 seconds, it jumps up to 57.5HP/s. Not only that, his ult makes him immune to all damage and fully heals him as well as gives him a speed boost to gain superior positioning.
You're really underestimating Zen's potential.
Throwing orbs on the ground in an open space is so triggering to a Moira main
Heck yes! I love these games so much!!
Also I think a dva sombra for Moira would be a good counter. Same with zarya only because of grav with you being buffed.
Please do 2x or 3x Zen, I would love to see the strats, plus the insane amount of damage he'd do lmaoo
“The damn torb turret” lol
Really cool video!! I think you could’ve won if you used more healing orbs to keep yourself alive and let the right click do the work!
I am more scared of a buffed Moira than a buffed Orisa
Finally moria!!! I was thinking this yesterday.
i feel this series should all be on koth maps or maybe push.
you could stall infinitely by sitting in a rebound spot with heal orbs
I feel like he wanted to lose some of the fights intentionally 😅
Definitely the last game. He didn’t fade again. He also never used a rebounding self heal orb, and instead kept throwing damage orbs that were immediately eaten.
Noo u didnt orb into coal!
i am supprised nobody picked ashes bob acts as a extra player and can tear anyone apart
7:01 that was easily avoidable wtf 😭
How do you set up this game mode? I'd love to do it with my friends
Is there a top 500 Support player who does these? Cause there's no way they'd lose in the 2.25
This is like a metal rank nightmare lmao. Like a raid boss haha
I think we need "One Buffed Top 500 Player Vs. 5 Top 500 Players" next.
why does this look like what i imagine morbius feels like
7:03 the pact must be upheld
Torb with the FAT backcap 😳
5:20 when you realize you have aim bot on a support further than the distance of all of the tanks
The music on this video is so off lol
Sniper Dva had no chance.
7:05 when a gm mistimes fade
That Torb was lost in the sauce. Like why keep throwing your turrent AT the Moria instead of setting it up at range...
I always use orb before ultra because of no cooldown, helps alot
This is every TikTok Moira.
The song at 15:27 ❤🔥🔥Spotlight · StreamBeats by Harris Heller 👍.
Next time you should do five top 500s against one 3x bronze. See how you fare
You’d probably need a plat with 5x for it to be fair 😂
@@shanem8957 toché
It's so funny when you get a moira on your team, they feed dps and when they lose its "bad dps"
Could you do a video like this but with zen
bastion ult near the end was wood league
cant wait for mercy lmao
I'm going to be honest, I thought this was going to he KarQ on Moira for the memes
I would have nightmares if I played against a buffed Moira
O shit ticktock hear we come😂😂
me: no im not a dps moira
:also me.
When you realize this is only 2.5x time to nerf genji
@emongg Do Doom at like 1.5x stats
This just looks like my enemy moira pov
I really want to start trying to get golden guns, but I'm honestly traumatized by comp from the first game. Is comp any better in OW 2? Ok update: just finished my third comp game and got 32 kills as Orisa.
Gotta do Lucio
Looks like an average Moira game in a bronzes mind
Moira tip: DON'T TROW YOUR ORB RIGHT DOWN, it'll pass for you and the enemies so fast, and u actually won't use it and u will fell much more the cdr of the abilitie
Can the buffed mercy be the next one? That would be epic
Would it?
@@Literally___Me yes
@@mr_heffy2576 really? No ability used they just have a pistol and grind until ult and then pistol only again and then fly for 15 secs and then it repeats again
I what multipliers you would need to go against higher ranked enemies like plats
emongg not fading to avoid dmg and surviving long enough to orb annoyed me he coulda capped twice cus of that
The no-damage ult against a DVA that has full armor... 😶
The way damage reduction stacks in this game is wacky...
2:09 I just realized your playing and not spectating
This one's going on the Tok!
I want blizzard to make moira do this much damage for just one week as an April fool
The bronze players dont know how to regroup after a team fight loss its so funny😭😭😭
bap, lucio, dva, torb, and widow or soldier would've worked wonders
ah yes. a bronze on widow.
Not DPS Moira … Tank Moira! I’ve had dreams like this match
These are so fun!
so many chances of getting out alive if the damage orb didn't share coldown with the heal orb and we had the weakness orb still... oh well, i miss the best buff moira ever got.
I want to see this kind of vid but ever game the buffed player wins the teams ranks go up so first game vs bronze second silver so on and so on until the buffed player loses
lmfao the freakin C9
This is the definition of a dps Moira
THE PAKT IS FULLFILLED
Dva pact fulfilled
Emong insane
I can't wait for bastion rly
I tried out tik tok Moria last week. I've been addicted ever since. I watched my partner play and all I seen was blood. They're was only prey for me to sukkk!
My best game was 11k damaged and 10k healing
29 elems
16 assist
9 death
According to emongg 200x2 is 500
The buff gives too much damage for them to be trying to heal it. Best to have tried to do as much damage and cc as possible. Zenny and Anna would've probably been the best support they could've gone. A junk rat for his trap and burst dps. Sombra would be a good 2nd dps. A sig probably was the best tank choice cause he can block while shooting and cc. Bronze or not they definitely still could've won this matchup with just the right characters.
How bronze players feel like when 1v1ing a moira
1 buffed bronze vs 5 top 500
You should do lucio
that one moira random:
Plss we need more Moira v 5!
still real early in the vid but honestly I think the best tank choice for the bronzes would be maybe Rein or Hog. even with double stats it would be really hard for Moira to chew through them and they get the added bonus of being able to cancel her ult.
gonna watch the rest now to see if they get there