Suicide - the Tragedy in the World Beyond - an interview with Elisabeth Vonderau
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- Опубликовано: 21 сен 2024
- Ms. Elisabeth Vonderau has been able to perceive spirit beings and speak with them for over 30 years. In this context, she has also been able to talk to deceased people who have committed suicide. She reports on the tragic consequences that suicide can have for those affected.
This woman didn't have a NDE and go over there and talk with them. I do not believe she knows. I feel what she experienced is based on her own religious belief system. I do believe in assisted suicide for those who are suffering terribly. You can bet that I want that option should it ever be needed! This is a fear-mongering video!
I know a lady who's partner hung himself in their own home, only last year in fact. He was only in his early 50s, and from what we can gather must have suffered from deep depression and was always unhappy with things in his life. Sadly he left a young son behind and of course his partner, who is still grieving. They were not a happy couple, but they had been together for many years, and I guess even though they were not happy, probably still loved each other. He did not leave a note or anything explaining why he was killing himself. I met this man a few times in my life and he was a gentle and kind soul in life. It puzzles me why he didn't leave an explanation for his family as to why he was leaving them. A terribly sad situation, and the interview above gives me hope that he will one day be reunited with his family. From personal experience, I have had 2 Out of Body Experiences. I entered a reality more real than my current waking reality. It was a very bizarre and moving experience. I am certain consciousness survives the death of the body.
He never left a note because he never loved his family and didn't care about them. He most probably was depressed because of them.
They are buried as natural human bodies, but they will be raised as spiritual bodies. For just as there are natural bodies, there are also spiritual bodies. (1 Corinthians 15:44)
Thank you for this illuminating discussion with Elisabeth. It's good to see you again! Your interviewing techniques are kind yet very deep. Elisabeth brought so much light and understanding to suicide. This act has touched all of our lives and the sadness and loss it creates. It is at epidemic proportions as depression and confusion grow. The clarity of medium connection gives us a greater understanding of the soul journey and that there is no judgment in the spiritual afterlife. It helps us ALL understand that suicide is NOT the answer and to reach out with love to those who struggle in life.
This sounds much more believable with regards to suicide and its consequences. Free will comes with a catch, its called 'personal responsibility'. I always instinctively knew i wouldnt be able to escape my problems through suicide and it seems my intuition was right. I know many people listening to this video wont like hearing it.
Many spirits communicating through mediums have said that those who take their own lives through suicide are NOT treated any differently than others. This world is a very evil place and if someone wants to leave it that is perfectly understandable. I plan on taking my own life when I grow too old to care for myself or if I am diagnoses with a fatal disease before that. The other side is pure bliss and anyone left behind on the earth will soon get over one's death. A few who have had NDEs were given a choice to stay or go back. One man says to this day he regrets coming back, even though his death would have grieved his parents greatly. People are resilient. They soon forget all about you after your death and if you have no closeness with anyone on the earth, you will not be missed, believe me. Better to live in paradise than in this hell we call the earth.
You seem to "know"" a lot of things that are unknowable. For example, I can personally testify that people do "suffer greatly" and do not get over it soon. This is more true if the loved one died by suicide. There is a lot of evil here on earth. Looking for good and expressing gratitude for it, can change one's perspective and lead to feeilng better about the whole thing. Peace and love to you dear ❤
I never heard an account as stern as this before. Other spiritual experiencers of suicide usually describe more unconditional compassion and gentle loving understanding over there
I feel like you get what you already believe. It's the same here in earth. And as with all NDE's or spiritual experiences, they are THEIR experience.
@@nnjack9931 I do not agree that we believe what they already believe. For myself, I have to hear an experience many, many times before I begin to consider it true. As for this NDE, I have never heard this type of account before, so I will wait to hear it about 20 more times before I begin to consider it true.
I'm uncomfortable with the harshness of this testimony. Some truths are harsh and still need to be heard, but there is something very reductionistic about the fates of the people who took their lives. A type of transactive justice to it, which, in my experience has nothing to do with Grace and the incomprehensible Love of the Transcendent Divine.
I think taken one life or someone else is wrong… suffering is part of learning.there are a few times in my life I wanted to checked out do to suffering circumstances. I am very glad I didn’t.Now those situations seems small and learned good lessons. Now I said to my self I will be in this world until my soul or body cannot be here no more….
As a person who would love to check out of this nightmare world insanity,… thanks for this opportunity to hear more information/perspective.
I don't believe in judgement beyond
If you believe it in here, then it will follow you beyond as well
‘You need help. You need to get help’…. We can tell you’re not from the US, that psychological in-patient service costs about $30-50,000 per month here, lol 😝
The US hates its citizens 😘
Sir, Ms. Vonderau mentions an American life coach at the end of the video. Is it possible to get this person’s name?
Oh no this isn't very nice at all. Very odd in fact.
She is one of the most remarkable spirit communicators I’ve ever heard.
This account has many question marks .... Not entirely convincing ...
I don't believe her. My grandmother took her own life. I dreamt of her living in a nice house in a nice neighborhood with my cousin who was murdered a few years before. I started to take my life when one of my children died suddenly. I know God would have understood and have been compassionate.
They are buried as natural human bodies, but they will be raised as spiritual bodies. For just as there are natural bodies, there are also spiritual bodies. (1 Corinthians 15:44)
O…..k.
As a Catholuc we believe in Purgatory which is a place of atonement before entering Heaven. Better to suffer on earth than after death
Read the bible and you'll know, its available for all.