The 12,000 year old road of Vermont: Part 1

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  • Опубликовано: 29 окт 2024

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  • @mostdopecaptain3350
    @mostdopecaptain3350 Год назад +2

    Great video! I was born in Vermont and am on a journey of discovering my families past and the history of where I call home so this video was awesome to watch!

  • @newenglandgreenman
    @newenglandgreenman Год назад +12

    This sort of thing exists all over North America. The Camino Real of California was laid out along indigenous paths. In eastern Massachusetts where I live, Bay Road was part of an ancient pathway from Massachusetts Bay to Narragansett Bay. On Long Island, Montauk Highway follows an ancient indigenous pathway connecting fords across creeks along the south shore of the island. We are still walking (or driving) in the footsteps of the original peoples.

    • @Clarkticus
      @Clarkticus Год назад

      Grew up right next to Bay road. Frequently thought about the many generations of people who have traveled here in the past after I learned this.

    • @guyincognito210
      @guyincognito210 Год назад +2

      I'm in Chicago. Most of the angled streets are old indian trails. You can probably take it a step further as most probably started as small game trails, then larger and finally humans.

    • @bruceleez5292
      @bruceleez5292 3 месяца назад

      Proof of arrowheads or take it back

  • @bmepdoc9675
    @bmepdoc9675 Год назад +9

    Fascinating as well as illuminating. What I also find boggling is there are door knobs and window panes throughout Europe still in use today which - in many cases - predate all of this. - Thank you for the upload.

  • @myaschaefer6597
    @myaschaefer6597 Год назад +3

    Great job! 🙌Tho I now live in Iowa, I loved your video. Two Thumbs Up!👍👍 Your video touches me deeply as I grew up in WMass, Charlemont, where the book "Boy's of the Boarder" chronicles part of the French and Indian War, highly recommend it if you haven't already read it. When we were kids we'd go hunting for arrowheads, along the Deerfield River. Also, some cycling friends of mine and I once attempted to traverse a part of The Crown Point Road bike...that was a tough day...but a dandy one! 🙂

  • @MisterKackhaufen
    @MisterKackhaufen Год назад +11

    Please make part 3, the ancient past is the interesting part

  • @smelltheglove2038
    @smelltheglove2038 Год назад

    This was a great video. Way better than anything on PBS

  • @phiddlephart7026
    @phiddlephart7026 Год назад +52

    A road built in 1759 & the title says 12,000 yo road, a difference of 11,241? Did I miss any part of the video about a 12,000 yo road?

    • @mysteriousmountains
      @mysteriousmountains  Год назад +30

      This is a three part presentation, part three is going to cover the ancient past. Parts one/two cover the creation of the Crown Point Road during the French and Indian War. How that road was based off the Indian Road. Part two covers using historical records to locate the road.

    • @phiddlephart7026
      @phiddlephart7026 Год назад +13

      @@mysteriousmountains my apologies 🤐, I didn't notice it had 3 parts. Thanks for responding so quickly.

    • @VaxtorT
      @VaxtorT Год назад +1

      The Abenaki haven't even been here for 12,000 years. No modern Native Americans have been here for 12,000 years. .....1800 years at best.

    • @mysteriousmountains
      @mysteriousmountains  Год назад +11

      @@VaxtorT Where are you finding this idea?

    • @phiddlephart7026
      @phiddlephart7026 Год назад +4

      @@VaxtorT ummm... I asked the guy & he said this was the first video in the series so I'm gonna give him a chance & then ask questions when he is finished

  • @harrylime8077
    @harrylime8077 Год назад +4

    12k year old road! That's In the last ice age, Vermont it would have been under a couple thousand feet of Ice and snow!

    • @na2cho
      @na2cho Год назад

      Not all of Vermont. Go back a few wipes and we were near the North Pole as well. Source: cia’s declassified files.

  • @dennismacwilliams196
    @dennismacwilliams196 Год назад +2

    Great video, lots of info I never know !

    • @iscovidoveryet7828
      @iscovidoveryet7828 Год назад

      American History books are flawed when it comes to certain facts. But that's not a coincidence... is it?

  • @michaeljoyce2096
    @michaeljoyce2096 Год назад +7

    I am quite sure, when the settlers first came to the land. They made themselves through the land using a trail made by the natives. In time those trails became roads.

    • @reensure
      @reensure Год назад +3

      A great misperception of the time was that Indians in the NE just moved in when the "old ones" died and assumed their ways. One cause of the misunderstanding was that natives had no knowledge of ancient works or a written history to support their rights to lands, so they were viewed by Europeans as children with a catalog of 'make believe', only to be tolerated and moved as it suited the colonists.

    • @iscovidoveryet7828
      @iscovidoveryet7828 Год назад

      @@reensure The Abanaki had a PetroGlyphic "written language in stone'', about the same time the pyramids were built. Symbols which can still be interpreted....
      And they even had an advanced society while, at a time when even the 'richest' Anglos still slept in the same structures along side of their own livestock.

    • @reensure
      @reensure Год назад +1

      @@iscovidoveryet7828 I wonder if the spirituality of Amerindians is comparable to the spiritualities contemporaneous in world civilization. Today, a popular view is that the natives here during colonization had a well-regulated social equity unique to world history, but I tend to think we've forgotten our own time as a 'spiritual' people that was largely obliterated after contact with Rome and Assyria before them.

  • @josephfisk2023
    @josephfisk2023 Год назад +5

    I happened to pause your video at 2:41 to read the article written in 1870. It states that James Monroe was in command at Fort William Henry in 1757. James Moroe who would become President, was born in 1758. That would have been George Monro, at Fort William Henry, wouldn't it? Interesting that many old documents can contain such large errors.

    • @havable
      @havable Год назад +2

      There might have been another James Monroe, too.

  • @eucliduschaumeau8813
    @eucliduschaumeau8813 5 месяцев назад

    Even Broadway (broad way) in Manhattan was originally a native road. The plagues and diseases spread through the natives so fast and with such a horrific death rate, because they had no antibodies or immunity against the diseases that were carried by the Europeans. The death rate was much higher than can ever be calculated.

  • @mountainmyst9026
    @mountainmyst9026 Год назад +4

    Robovoice sounds like the weather band radio

  • @arizonaarmadillo5829
    @arizonaarmadillo5829 Год назад +4

    Why is the guy speaking like a NOAA Weather Radio robot?

    • @HM2SGT
      @HM2SGT Год назад

      lol reminds me of the sound blaster sound card speech emulator I had in the early 90s, Dr. SBAITSO

  • @Sea-Keith
    @Sea-Keith Год назад +1

    Can you share where to find part 1 and 3 ? I am subscribed,but can't find..

    • @Musician-r5q
      @Musician-r5q Год назад +1

      You're watching Part 1, Here's Part 2: ruclips.net/video/T19MWPzPgyM/видео.html and I don't think there's a Part 3.

  • @markwilliamson2795
    @markwilliamson2795 Год назад +4

    Indians followed the trails the animals made then other men from most other Countries the British , Russian , French and others....they all wanted the land don't fool yourself

  • @finddeniro
    @finddeniro Год назад +2

    Scioto River Trail...3- 4 thousand years old..Ohio ..
    You knows...Old magic..

  • @vermontmann1876
    @vermontmann1876 Год назад +1

    So what do they call this road today in Vermont..

  • @mmercier0921
    @mmercier0921 Год назад

    few people know that the natives were mostly dead when we got here. whatever the Europeans were carrying, it was devastating. happened in the west too.

  • @TahoeJones
    @TahoeJones Год назад

    Losing sucks. It's rather historical everywhere.

  • @cynthiarowley719
    @cynthiarowley719 Год назад +1

    I still don't see part 3. I'm bummed

  • @shadetreader
    @shadetreader Год назад +6

    Turn down the cheesy music and lose the robotic voice.

  • @johnberry3824
    @johnberry3824 Год назад

    Why does the cadence of your narration sound like an artificial voice?

    • @HM2SGT
      @HM2SGT Год назад

      Well, if it walks like a duck, and it quacks like a duck… 🤷‍♂️😏

  • @JayPooler
    @JayPooler Год назад

    nice local history

  • @rebeccadubois8270
    @rebeccadubois8270 Год назад +2

    Need a voice over artist, I'll do it.

    • @danaxtell2367
      @danaxtell2367 10 месяцев назад

      I agree that 8 minutes of a synthesized voice in 2023 is hard to take. It will improve, eventually. In the meantime, I recommend speeding up the video to 1.5x in the playback settings. You don't lose any subtleties in the narration because there are none.

  • @JohnStark72
    @JohnStark72 Год назад

    If you're insisting that the Republic of Vermont started in January of 1777, then your research has a hole. The Republic was officially created at Windham Tavern on the 7th of July, 1777.

    • @mysteriousmountains
      @mysteriousmountains  Год назад

      The state was founded in January 1777, when delegates from 28 towns met and declared independence from the jurisdictions and land claims of the British colonies of Quebec, New Hampshire, and New York. The republic remained in existence for the next fourteen years, albeit without diplomatic recognition from any foreign power. On March 4, 1791, it was admitted into the United States as the State of Vermont, with the constitution and laws of the independent state continuing in effect after admission. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vermont_Republic#:~:text=The%20Vermont%20Republic%20(French%3A%20R%C3%A9publique,%2C%20to%20March%204%2C%201791.

    • @JohnStark72
      @JohnStark72 Год назад +1

      @@mysteriousmountains That's where your problem is. You're getting your information from Wikipedia, which is a spurious source.

    • @mysteriousmountains
      @mysteriousmountains  Год назад

      @@JohnStark72 ballotpedia.org/Vermont_Republic
      vermontmaturity.com/vermont-history/the-vermont-republic-the-story-of-when-vermont-was-an-independent-country/
      ancestralfindings.com/vermont/
      dbpedia.org/page/Vermont_Republic

  • @HM2SGT
    @HM2SGT Год назад

    Belknap... *BELLK NAP?* _BELLK NAP?!_ 😳😹 _Bell_ _Nap_, sir.

  • @RedArrow73
    @RedArrow73 Год назад +1

    My 7th grade English teacher proved once again that the simplest explanation was likely the most accurate:
    The Common Cold.

  • @naymayabiksnibi
    @naymayabiksnibi Год назад +9

    What is not mysterious is how the Original Native peoples, 500 Nations of Turtle Island, Kept pristine lands for many millenia, before the white man's reign of disaster of around 500 years, which will be his end.

    • @taliaperkins1389
      @taliaperkins1389 Год назад

      Idiot, there is no such thing as "the Noble Savage". In North America the indigenous people heavily modified their surroundings, and were limited in doing so only in lesser the capabilities of their technology.

    • @joeyank2451
      @joeyank2451 Год назад

      Idiot

    • @taliaperkins1389
      @taliaperkins1389 Год назад +2

      @@joeyank2451 Everyone who believes the "Noble Savage" myth is

    • @taliaperkins1389
      @taliaperkins1389 Год назад +1

      @@Automedon2 Apparently we are vaguely in agreement, although you have written a reply to me as if we disagree. I would not go nearly so far as to say that if the native Americans had had greater technology they would definitely have made any animals extinct than they did with lesser technology, what I'm saying is that their cultures and genetics had no better nasure then the Europeans who encountered them in the 1500s add on.

  • @Shivaho
    @Shivaho Год назад +1

    Intentional Genocide

  • @stevewhite7426
    @stevewhite7426 Год назад +8

    We’re they killed by God or by lord Jeffery Amherst and his generous gift of blankets?

    • @mysteriousmountains
      @mysteriousmountains  Год назад +5

      In the book 1491written by Charles C. Mann says the likely outbreak was caused by hepatitis A.

    • @stevewhite7426
      @stevewhite7426 Год назад +3

      @@mysteriousmountains
      It was the blanket coverage!

    • @itcantbetruebutis7778
      @itcantbetruebutis7778 Год назад +1

      @@stevewhite7426 our whole history is covered in old blankets that society has finally begun to poke holes thru... that is a small % of those whom still control their own minds... what lies beneath has been sinister

    • @neeleynonea
      @neeleynonea Год назад +4

      @@stevewhite7426 blankets usually infected with smallpox taken from victims

    • @neeleynonea
      @neeleynonea Год назад +4

      @@mysteriousmountains 1941 was minimum 35 years before whites started to admit what they had done to the original people in north American. Pretty much most things written before the 70s did not tell the truth about the treatment of aboriginals.

  • @tuckhorse
    @tuckhorse Год назад

    👍🇺🇸🤠

  • @VaxtorT
    @VaxtorT Год назад +7

    The Abenaki are not the original Indigenous peoples of the Northeast. All present day Native Americans are descendants of a wave of migration that crossed the Bering Straight in canoes after 200AD..
    This wave brought diseases to which the original Indigenous people had no immunity. The remainder were either conquered and killed or assimilated.
    Ironically, this same scenario played out again when the Europeans arrived.

    • @mysteriousmountains
      @mysteriousmountains  Год назад +1

      Where did you hear about this idea?

    • @shazamshazamshazam696
      @shazamshazamshazam696 Год назад +6

      That once "fact," has been discarded by more recent archaeology and dna testing of the remains found from Alaska to the Southern tip of S. America,

    • @christinelozier3511
      @christinelozier3511 Год назад +1

      Archeologist Robert Sephre has discussed the more recent findings that led to the Bering Straight migration actually from Asia into the N.and S. American continents rather than the reverse.

    • @shazamshazamshazam696
      @shazamshazamshazam696 Год назад +1

      ​@@christinelozier3511 His opinions are out of step with the leading edge of geneticists.

    • @iscovidoveryet7828
      @iscovidoveryet7828 Год назад

      @@mysteriousmountains Probably from Fux News...

  • @emerymyers7748
    @emerymyers7748 Год назад

    You mean 200 year old road!!!