Hi! Would be great if you did one showing the actual cutting... I.e., showing the full image, then cut it and show the same in two, then in four, etc. It's surprisingly hard to find this online, though this is kind of a famous thing. Perhaps you could make a follow up video?
I really like this demonstration. Reminds me of the demo done at the Holography Symposium, at Lake Forest University, in 1991, which I attended. Very classic demonstration of characteristics of holograms. :)
Great video! Thanks. But you havent explained the phenomena. That is, how is it possible to record all information thats a-temporal? In theory then you could record terabytes of information on a tiny holographic film tegardless of size. Its a very interesting phenomena that may be linked to the wavefunction collapse/measurment problem. Its simmilar to it as it does essentially the same thing. Meaning the film is in itself like an interference pattern until you shine a laser (observer) through it then for lack of better words the wavefunction collapses and boom! There it is!
@@thr337 watch Life and Ideas of David Bohm on ylutube. When i said atemporal the right word is actually nonlocality. Also a mind blowing read is Talks With Ramana Maharshi. It all ties in all this. I made some strides in my understanding since the post you read. My email is drazazen@gmail.com ✌
@Andro Santos they say that our memory is not in the cells but in the magnetic field surrouounding us. Yes its very interesting how information is stored onto holographic film. I wonder if anyone understands how its actually laid out on the film. I know that a fourier transform is involved and that as a wave information literally permiates everything.
@@ditchweed2275 Yes I believe the mind is encoded in the magnetic field surrounding the body not in the ions (or cells as you put it). But what is a field? Some say a field doesn't actually exist as a thing but merely represents organized collective behavior (for example, the way iron filings align when placed near a magnet). You see? The field merely describes the behavior but doesn't actually describe the real reason for the behavior. We only know that a magnetic field induces motion in electrically charged particles. So the laws of physics united the electromagnetic and electric forces so that you can say it's the magnetic field which induces the charged particles in the brain to move rather than the motion of the charged particles creating the magnetic field. But the field doesn't appear until the particles start moving. They start noving due to attractive and repulsive electromotive forces. So you can look at it both ways. But some physicists say the future creates the past in addition to the past creating the future due to the fact that past and future are relative. Our future is the past from the pov of a positron. So the idea is that the future field is what causes the charged particle to start moving. In other words information about the future is what causes the particle to start moving. You see it must start moving because it received information from the future that it will be in motion. So to prevent a paradox the charge must start moving. Everything is actually mere information or mind and minds are based on logic so to be logical there can't be a causality paradox within the mind of the universe or god. You see? In actuality there can be paradoxes without violating logic by using the logic of alternate universes. So allowing for a causality paradox would mean communication with alternate universes is possible. So you may be able to change the future or past but it could only be done by exploiting blind spots IMO. You'd need to be vague about the information you send. For example you could prevent a crime if you sent and received only the bare essential information necessary to prevent the crime but not information about the outcome. Then it is uncertain whether the information is coming from an alternate universe whether the crime actually happened or a universe where the crime was averted. You see? Whether it comes from the same timeline you end up on depends on whether the received info is sent backward in time or not. If not then it came from an alternate timeline/universe. The question is what would prevent you from refusing to send the info as a test to see if that is possible. According to stephen hawking creating such a paradox might cause the timeline where you fail to send the info to be annihilated which is a way of saying such a timeline cannot exist in which case communication with alternate universes is not possible. But quantum computers seem to prove hawking wrong because according to david deutsch the founder of quantum computing quantum computing relies upon communication between alternate timelines. But it's unclear to me exactly how this works because it seems that the alternate universes are hypothetical and it's difficult to prove they actually exist separately instead of as a mere potential because we can only detect their existence via an interference pattern generated by their sum. What happens in oyr universe appears to be a product of their sum. But it may our universe equals the sum of all the other universes minus our universe. So it may be those universes are all real but ours is not. Alternatively it may be our universe is our universe minus the rest of the multiverse. But that appears to be equivalent to saying the multiverse minus our universe. One of these options produces a negative number or result while the other produces a positive number or result. I'll let you figure out which one produces the positive and which the negative. Anyway back to the laws of electromagnetic force. If it's true that saying a magnetic field induces motion of the electrons is equivalent to saying the motion of electrons creates the moving or changing magnetic field then that means you could also say the motion of electrons in a copper coil creates the motion of the permanent magnet inducing the electrical current in the coil. You see? But not only can you say the induced current causes the motion of the magnet but also the hand holding the magnet. In fact you could say the induced current causes everything else in the universe to behave as it does no matter how far away. It does this NOT through conventional electromagnetic force fields but rather through what is called the A-field or "aharonov-bohm effect" which acts instantaneously on even uncharged particles through em shielding perhaps through john cramer's transactional interpretation of quantum mechanics which explains instantaneous non-local quantum entanglement as due to information arriving from the future just in time for it to create the appearance of instantaneous effects. Cramer's transactional interpretation is merely an elaboration upon wheeler and feynman's ideas of EM waves being composed of 1/2 "advanced waves" and 1/2 "retarded waves". Advanced waves propagate from future to past. Retarded waves propagate from past to future. Retarded waves travel at c (the constant speed of light) from point A to point B. Advanced waves travel faster than c from point B to point A. You could say a retarded wave propagating from point A to point B at less than c is equivalelent to an advanced wave travelling faster than c (at a certain speed) from point B to point A. They are merely two different ways of describing the same thing. This is why it was called the advanced wave solution for EM waves. Anyway the point is that the information about a future effect actually travels backward through both space and time at some finite speed, from point B (where the effect happens) to point A (where the cause happens), so that it arrives at the point of an original cause just in time to induce that cause (here I refer to cause and effect as observed from our POV not the POV of the advanced wave which sees itself as the cause not the effect7). You see? This is how instantaneous effects of quantum entanglement may work. Or maybe it works through particles being microscopic wormholes. Who knows? Ask doc brown. Maybe he knows. Anyway the point is yeah you can say the mind is encoded in the field surrounding the brain as opposed to the brain. But fields extend out to infinity (in both space and time) and affect all particles in the universe via the A-field so you could say we create reality. Although it takes time for waves to propagate from here to the farthest parts of the universe information is sent from those far points backward through time and space so that the energy/information is received before it was sent just in time to make it happen. Understand?
fucking incredible, just as we've been granted perspective enough to comprehend the 2d world in 3d laymans terms, we've cracked perspective on this 3d energy hologram we live in!
That did explain anything. Sure it’s quantum mechanics and sure if you don’t know about quantum mechanics you have to forget all your pre conceptions of physics but it’s not over peoples head. It’s just weird. Things can be in two places at once and it’s kinda proof that everything in the universe is connected and everything contains the entirety of the universe within it. Or at least that’s my interpretation of what cutting a hologram is really showing us.
You don't even need quantum mechanics. You can use classical wave mechanics. At the emulsion is standing waves from your reference image and object beam. Since this is a transmission hologram, they are arriving from the same side of the hologram. The reason you can see different angles of the object si the same reason you can still see them when you cut it out. Every nanoscopic piece of emulsion is a mirror that recorded its own perspective of the scene. This is also how two people see two different scenes when they look from different angles at the same time. Cutting the hologram just makes this viewing angle even smaller
@@pappi8338 what do you mean you don’t need quantum mechanics? Wave mechanics can’t begin to describe the reality of what is going on and how it works. Yes there are waves and fields even in quantum mechanics but that is only part of the story. And you miss the duality that really bridges the gap and shows the mechanism between our reality and the probability distribution of quantum mechanics that does operate in a wave form. The collapse of the wave form due to the observer effect is massively important and why what ever your trying to say is wrong. Schrödingers cat is one of the best thought experiments demonstrating this point. You can’t truly grasp reality just with partial physics and understanding what a field or probability shell even is and how you go from particles and standard model physics into quantum mechanics can’t be understood as it’s all vibration and teslas quote If only you knew the magnificence of 3,6 and 9, then you would have a key to the universe wouldn’t be understood or make sense. But once you know quantum mechanics with standard model general relativity and thermal dynamics then you start to understand what Tesla was talking about and only then. One part of the whole is like having a single piece of a puzzle and saying you can see the big picture. No you can’t.
@@pappi8338 all so quantum mechanics has been shown to to be the most accurate physics model ever produced by humans so far so again what are you talking about you don’t need quantum mechanics. With out quantum mechanics there is no wave function of light and classical wave mechanics doesn’t transfer over to light cause with out quantum mechanics light is a particle only and we know that isnt true. Light is a wave till observed or measured then and only then is the wave form collapsed. Aka quantum mechanics. So what you just don’t like the fact you are using it but don’t know what it is or don’t like the fact you are forced to use and accept it?
@@HkLY45 if you check out the poster's response to mpeg2tom on this video from 2 years ago he explains how he made it - sounds like it is actually made as a single hologram and then cut, he's just not shown in the video
@@BootlessBill thank you. I wonder why he would leave out the thing that is the actual title of the video? The cutting is the subject here. I can't find a single example video that shows it, and I am skeptical. It makes no sense that the entire image would be copied in each cut, no matter how many times you cut it? So if I have a hologram and run it through a shredder, I will have 100s of the same image?
@@HkLY45 no worries! Yeah it's a shame to not actually see it be done. Thinking about it, I feel like it's somewhere between the two - like his analogy of it being the same as looking through a window, well the aperture of that window is getting smaller every time you make another cut, so the image will still be there but as you turn it left and right you won't get as much visible angle in each direction, like looking through a smaller window. You can start to see it in his example from the left hand to the right hand image. So, I think to say you can still see the whole image isn't eeeeexactly true, as you wouldn't be able to turn, say, the left hand piece far enough to see the furthest right edge that you can see in the right hand piece.
@@HkLY45 have a look at this, took me about 2 minutes to find this ruclips.net/video/-2SdHYrMlkc/видео.html where he literally cuts a hologram with scissors within the first 2 minutes!!
Hi! Would be great if you did one showing the actual cutting... I.e., showing the full image, then cut it and show the same in two, then in four, etc. It's surprisingly hard to find this online, though this is kind of a famous thing. Perhaps you could make a follow up video?
Isn't that so f'd up? I always knew this property and read about it as a teen but am seeing it today for the first time.
The simplification at the end was wonderful, ty.
what did it look like before you cut it?
I really like this demonstration. Reminds me of the demo done at the Holography Symposium, at Lake Forest University, in 1991, which I attended. Very classic demonstration of characteristics of holograms. :)
WOW that is amazing! It looks like the three holograms are from different perspectives!
This is very helpful! Ahh so excited. So I could cut the film into different pieces and the hologram would still work.
I'm curious if only a small slit is left would it still have all 3 dice
The implications are vast. Thank you for providing scientific backing to settle the raging debate about this phenomenon!
All in a day's work.
Settle what debate? He just demonstrated the phenomena. He didnt explain how its possible.
@@ditchweed2275 what he said about perspective and looking through a window is the detail you're looking for
I am inspired. thank you so much for making these videos! I am going to start making these and using them in my art. ahhh!!! im so excited!
Great video! Thanks. But you havent explained the phenomena. That is, how is it possible to record all information thats a-temporal?
In theory then you could record terabytes of information on a tiny holographic film tegardless of size. Its a very interesting phenomena that may be linked to the wavefunction collapse/measurment problem. Its simmilar to it as it does essentially the same thing. Meaning the film is in itself like an interference pattern until you shine a laser (observer) through it then for lack of better words the wavefunction collapses and boom! There it is!
Wow. I doubt that's dirt weed you're smoking... How can I get in contact with u. U sound intelligent and forward thinking.
@@thr337 watch Life and Ideas of David Bohm on ylutube. When i said atemporal the right word is actually nonlocality. Also a mind blowing read is Talks With Ramana Maharshi. It all ties in all this. I made some strides in my understanding since the post you read. My email is drazazen@gmail.com
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@Andro Santos I dont know what to believe anymore.
@Andro Santos they say that our memory is not in the cells but in the magnetic field surrouounding us. Yes its very interesting how information is stored onto holographic film. I wonder if anyone understands how its actually laid out on the film. I know that a fourier transform is involved and that as a wave information literally permiates everything.
@@ditchweed2275 Yes I believe the mind is encoded in the magnetic field surrounding the body not in the ions (or cells as you put it). But what is a field? Some say a field doesn't actually exist as a thing but merely represents organized collective behavior (for example, the way iron filings align when placed near a magnet). You see? The field merely describes the behavior but doesn't actually describe the real reason for the behavior. We only know that a magnetic field induces motion in electrically charged particles. So the laws of physics united the electromagnetic and electric forces so that you can say it's the magnetic field which induces the charged particles in the brain to move rather than the motion of the charged particles creating the magnetic field. But the field doesn't appear until the particles start moving. They start noving due to attractive and repulsive electromotive forces. So you can look at it both ways. But some physicists say the future creates the past in addition to the past creating the future due to the fact that past and future are relative. Our future is the past from the pov of a positron. So the idea is that the future field is what causes the charged particle to start moving. In other words information about the future is what causes the particle to start moving. You see it must start moving because it received information from the future that it will be in motion. So to prevent a paradox the charge must start moving. Everything is actually mere information or mind and minds are based on logic so to be logical there can't be a causality paradox within the mind of the universe or god. You see? In actuality there can be paradoxes without violating logic by using the logic of alternate universes. So allowing for a causality paradox would mean communication with alternate universes is possible. So you may be able to change the future or past but it could only be done by exploiting blind spots IMO. You'd need to be vague about the information you send. For example you could prevent a crime if you sent and received only the bare essential information necessary to prevent the crime but not information about the outcome. Then it is uncertain whether the information is coming from an alternate universe whether the crime actually happened or a universe where the crime was averted. You see? Whether it comes from the same timeline you end up on depends on whether the received info is sent backward in time or not. If not then it came from an alternate timeline/universe. The question is what would prevent you from refusing to send the info as a test to see if that is possible. According to stephen hawking creating such a paradox might cause the timeline where you fail to send the info to be annihilated which is a way of saying such a timeline cannot exist in which case communication with alternate universes is not possible. But quantum computers seem to prove hawking wrong because according to david deutsch the founder of quantum computing quantum computing relies upon communication between alternate timelines. But it's unclear to me exactly how this works because it seems that the alternate universes are hypothetical and it's difficult to prove they actually exist separately instead of as a mere potential because we can only detect their existence via an interference pattern generated by their sum. What happens in oyr universe appears to be a product of their sum. But it may our universe equals the sum of all the other universes minus our universe. So it may be those universes are all real but ours is not. Alternatively it may be our universe is our universe minus the rest of the multiverse. But that appears to be equivalent to saying the multiverse minus our universe. One of these options produces a negative number or result while the other produces a positive number or result. I'll let you figure out which one produces the positive and which the negative. Anyway back to the laws of electromagnetic force. If it's true that saying a magnetic field induces motion of the electrons is equivalent to saying the motion of electrons creates the moving or changing magnetic field then that means you could also say the motion of electrons in a copper coil creates the motion of the permanent magnet inducing the electrical current in the coil. You see? But not only can you say the induced current causes the motion of the magnet but also the hand holding the magnet. In fact you could say the induced current causes everything else in the universe to behave as it does no matter how far away. It does this NOT through conventional electromagnetic force fields but rather through what is called the A-field or "aharonov-bohm effect" which acts instantaneously on even uncharged particles through em shielding perhaps through john cramer's transactional interpretation of quantum mechanics which explains instantaneous non-local quantum entanglement as due to information arriving from the future just in time for it to create the appearance of instantaneous effects. Cramer's transactional interpretation is merely an elaboration upon wheeler and feynman's ideas of EM waves being composed of 1/2 "advanced waves" and 1/2 "retarded waves". Advanced waves propagate from future to past. Retarded waves propagate from past to future. Retarded waves travel at c (the constant speed of light) from point A to point B. Advanced waves travel faster than c from point B to point A. You could say a retarded wave propagating from point A to point B at less than c is equivalelent to an advanced wave travelling faster than c (at a certain speed) from point B to point A. They are merely two different ways of describing the same thing. This is why it was called the advanced wave solution for EM waves. Anyway the point is that the information about a future effect actually travels backward through both space and time at some finite speed, from point B (where the effect happens) to point A (where the cause happens), so that it arrives at the point of an original cause just in time to induce that cause (here I refer to cause and effect as observed from our POV not the POV of the advanced wave which sees itself as the cause not the effect7). You see? This is how instantaneous effects of quantum entanglement may work. Or maybe it works through particles being microscopic wormholes. Who knows? Ask doc brown. Maybe he knows. Anyway the point is yeah you can say the mind is encoded in the field surrounding the brain as opposed to the brain. But fields extend out to infinity (in both space and time) and affect all particles in the universe via the A-field so you could say we create reality. Although it takes time for waves to propagate from here to the farthest parts of the universe information is sent from those far points backward through time and space so that the energy/information is received before it was sent just in time to make it happen. Understand?
A hologram is a window into time itself. Welcome to the Game of Games.
What if the photo in the hologram consisted of pieces lined up along just 1 axis, i.e. not protruding away in depth?
Reality is a hologram. A hologram within a hologram
This is mind bogglin.
How did you cut the LitiHolo plates?
Make your hologram as usual, then peel the film off the glass, cut, and stick back on the glass (still a little tacky).
fucking incredible, just as we've been granted perspective enough to comprehend the 2d world in 3d laymans terms, we've cracked perspective on this 3d energy hologram we live in!
That did explain anything. Sure it’s quantum mechanics and sure if you don’t know about quantum mechanics you have to forget all your pre conceptions of physics but it’s not over peoples head. It’s just weird. Things can be in two places at once and it’s kinda proof that everything in the universe is connected and everything contains the entirety of the universe within it. Or at least that’s my interpretation of what cutting a hologram is really showing us.
You don't even need quantum mechanics. You can use classical wave mechanics. At the emulsion is standing waves from your reference image and object beam. Since this is a transmission hologram, they are arriving from the same side of the hologram.
The reason you can see different angles of the object si the same reason you can still see them when you cut it out. Every nanoscopic piece of emulsion is a mirror that recorded its own perspective of the scene. This is also how two people see two different scenes when they look from different angles at the same time. Cutting the hologram just makes this viewing angle even smaller
@@pappi8338 what do you mean you don’t need quantum mechanics? Wave mechanics can’t begin to describe the reality of what is going on and how it works. Yes there are waves and fields even in quantum mechanics but that is only part of the story. And you miss the duality that really bridges the gap and shows the mechanism between our reality and the probability distribution of quantum mechanics that does operate in a wave form. The collapse of the wave form due to the observer effect is massively important and why what ever your trying to say is wrong. Schrödingers cat is one of the best thought experiments demonstrating this point. You can’t truly grasp reality just with partial physics and understanding what a field or probability shell even is and how you go from particles and standard model physics into quantum mechanics can’t be understood as it’s all vibration and teslas quote If only you knew the magnificence of 3,6 and 9, then you would have a key to the universe wouldn’t be understood or make sense. But once you know quantum mechanics with standard model general relativity and thermal dynamics then you start to understand what Tesla was talking about and only then. One part of the whole is like having a single piece of a puzzle and saying you can see the big picture. No you can’t.
@@pappi8338 all so quantum mechanics has been shown to to be the most accurate physics model ever produced by humans so far so again what are you talking about you don’t need quantum mechanics. With out quantum mechanics there is no wave function of light and classical wave mechanics doesn’t transfer over to light cause with out quantum mechanics light is a particle only and we know that isnt true. Light is a wave till observed or measured then and only then is the wave form collapsed. Aka quantum mechanics. So what you just don’t like the fact you are using it but don’t know what it is or don’t like the fact you are forced to use and accept it?
@@kevinb.8649 Friend, I have my BS and MS in physics. I'm not changing what I said. Also you sound like a regurgitating Kurzgesagt/Veritasium fan.
@@kevinb.8649 Also, I make holograms almost every day in my lab. I think I'm a bit qualified here
this is really fantastic
As above, so below
If you figured it out your genious
Pribram-Bohm brought me here.
Epic
You didn't make a hologram and then cut it in half, you just made 3 holograms. Why not do what the title actually says?
Still mad about this video lol. Can't find a single video of someone cutting a hologram.
@@HkLY45 if you check out the poster's response to mpeg2tom on this video from 2 years ago he explains how he made it - sounds like it is actually made as a single hologram and then cut, he's just not shown in the video
@@BootlessBill thank you. I wonder why he would leave out the thing that is the actual title of the video? The cutting is the subject here. I can't find a single example video that shows it, and I am skeptical. It makes no sense that the entire image would be copied in each cut, no matter how many times you cut it? So if I have a hologram and run it through a shredder, I will have 100s of the same image?
@@HkLY45 no worries! Yeah it's a shame to not actually see it be done. Thinking about it, I feel like it's somewhere between the two - like his analogy of it being the same as looking through a window, well the aperture of that window is getting smaller every time you make another cut, so the image will still be there but as you turn it left and right you won't get as much visible angle in each direction, like looking through a smaller window. You can start to see it in his example from the left hand to the right hand image. So, I think to say you can still see the whole image isn't eeeeexactly true, as you wouldn't be able to turn, say, the left hand piece far enough to see the furthest right edge that you can see in the right hand piece.
@@HkLY45 have a look at this, took me about 2 minutes to find this ruclips.net/video/-2SdHYrMlkc/видео.html where he literally cuts a hologram with scissors within the first 2 minutes!!