Villa fan here. I’ve seen the movie before - season after season flirting with relegation.. And I’ll say this, having gone through this at Villa, sometimes things have to break to rebuild.
@@ahblezasellars good advice that man.I’ve always seen villa as a huge club and an essential part of the top flight furniture.don’t like to see big clubs go down .maybe make an acception for Man U and Liverpool 😂
You can't build bricks without straw. Been a fan since '62, not sold on Dyche but given the precarious financial position of the club he's on a hiding to nothing at the moment. Players have options and currently we are on few, if any, players "want to play for them" list. We had 14 first team players fit on Saturday, so it's not looking good.
Efan Ekoku said in the commentary on Saturday we should sign Toney. If we could afford and attract players like that why stop there? Mbappè changed clubs this summer, we should have offered Neal Maupay and asked for £5m in exchange.
Times like this you look upon come end of the season and wish you picked a point. There's nothing like only 2nd game of the season. It's fine margins every game counts
@@gboi264 Looking at the long haul also matters. We went against really good teams these first two games. We will pick up points later on. Panicking after the first few is amateur stuff.
We need a top manager, someone who can come in like Carlo did and build a squad and philosophy that will take us forward, we haven't had an identity since Carlo and before him it was Martinez, we've struggled for years now fighting relegation and now it looks like it's going to be another season of it, I haven't felt a connection to the club in so long, I've been a fan since I was 7 so that's 23 years I've been an Evertonian and this is the most disconnected I've ever felt, something huge needs to change ASAP, not only do we look lost and can't win a football match but we also can't even attract an owner to come and settle the ship behind the scenes either, it's a complete mess and a constant hangover that's been looming over our heads season upon season and I fear this season will be our final season in the PL
Goal scorers always attract a premium in the market. Goal stopper attract a discount. It is cheaper for a club like Everton with difficult finances to focus on preventing goals than scoring them to maximise the goal difference.
Everton’s tactics, playing style and players are too English. They play park the bus, kick and rush football. Their players are physical, athletic, not much skills or technicality.
Dyche is guilty of his inabilility of knowlage in tactical play formations to cope in modern day football yes you can blame the players but it looks like they have no sense of direction confused in what there doing they train all wk in the tactics and it probebly makes sense to them but on the pitch opposing teams break it down with a blink of the eye in the first 5 min and thats were all hell is let loose because they have got no answers and that is totally down to bad management
I think that Everton should have done a deal with Newcastle for DCL at 30 -35 mil instead of holding out for 40 mil. It is obvious we need a striker. DCL wants Newcastle and is no longer interested. I don't blame him. The way the team is setup to play, who wants to keep chasing long balls all day? Carlo got it right with DCL but telling him to stay in the box not run all over the place. Onana said it was the type of football that made him want out. McNeil is going backwards most of the time. How do we expect to win?
@@jim8837 Why would I be. As Tottenham fan I like Everton. I just feel that the club has been ruined for over two decades. I enjoy when Tottenham and Everton play each other over the years. Too see it where it is today is sad
Dyche was bought in to prevent counter attacks and to make defenses solid.I don't see Everton be at bottom 3 in May or in relegation battle. It's honestly shocking how badly they played in the first 2 matches. Everton need to create more scoring chance,that what they did decently last season.Also Everton needs more possession imo 19th only ahead of Ipswich Town(in their case I wouldn't blame them counter attacking against Man City and Liverpool).
I know it's early but it really looks like Everton are heading down this time. I mean yeah where are the goals going to come from? Calvert-Lewin? The guy can't stay fit. Maupay? I mean come on really? He may net them a few goals but he isn't gonna keep them up.
It's worse than that tbh he's been fit for while he just doesn't look like the same player and gets next to zilch service and when he does it's under/over hit or played to his weaker foot when he has 3 men on him
Dyche saying the new guys have no pl experience but neither had roman Dixon and he was our best player and Micheal Keane had a good pre season lmao O'Brien was well better Lindstrom hit that free kick and ndiaye was class ,,we are going down
Good point. I would throw Sunderland into the mix as well, because before they dropped down the divisions, they had multiple seasons surviving relegation by the skin of their teeth. Similarly Everton have stunk out the division for some time now, and theres been no progress at all, so it's just a matter of time before the go down.
Everton got a six point deduction last season and eventually stayed up with points to spare. This season they are not firing on all cyclinders but surely when they get their best players out there are the new ones are integrated things will turn out fine. The problem I'm not a reactionary so I don't go overboard when the good time arrive either. But lets give creadence to these sour blue noses, who will attack the next manager, if things aren't going the way they want. Probably the same vocal few that got rid of Allerdyce, Kooman, etc. and the board of directors. Patience is a virtue and some of my family who are Everton fans have that in abundance but clearly not the whining keyboarders who probably get upset when their ready-made meals take more than three minutes to prepare and taste like. *****.
It seems that we are playing slow, analog football in a digital world. Speed of thought and movement is not our thing. We could stay up, but the problem remains...until the manager is changed.
Am an Evertonian through and through but apparently there still at spurs still trying to score a goal even with the spurs team sat at home on the couch thats how shite Everton are
I agree. As a newcastle fan the most enjoyable seasons over the last 15 years prior to the takeover were the 2 individual seasons spent in the championship. Both seasons ended as champions and we won most of our games, a far cry from losing week in week out. That's why many Norwich fans, West Brom fans, etc... prefer to be in the championship because being rock bottom of the premier league and paying your hard earned money to watch your team lose and fall apart each week is depressing.
@joneve8347 now try doing that when you're at the bottom of the championship we had nearly 25 years of pain of championship relegation battles and couple in league 1 but 3rd season in prem still hard work and not easy watching
@@joneve8347some teams have higher levels and expectations than Newcastle Everton are 9 times league champions that’s more than Tottenham and Newcastle put together
@@agentancelotti2985 how is that relevant to my comment? Everton WERE successful but haven't been a major team in 40 years. Fans can either pay hundreds to watch their team get humiliated week in, week out, or have a season in the championship and enjoy themselves. Ask a Southampton fan which was their most enjoyable season of the last 5 and it would likely be last season because it's better to win most weeks than lose every week.
Why waste £17m on O’Brien too if you ain’t gonna play him and play Keane still or even the young rb Quintyne who started ahead of him on Saturday don’t make any sense especially when he looked decent in pre season… same for Lindstrøm should be starting
He tried to get Keane into the side last year before he had no choice but to bin him after the Villa mauling and he's tried to fool us again ... Stop messing about and get the new CB in sharpish and young RB was Roman Dixon
Dyche should have been legged last year. Thanks for the service Sean but we need something different now. Moyes is a cut above dyche in every way. He would be the pick on our current lack of resources. Dyche has surrendered these first 2 games. Unforgivable how stubborn and arrogant the man is Buy attacking players that we desperately need and don’t play them. Claim lack of PL experience then play Roman Dixon who hadn’t had a sniff previously. Well done to RD by the way. Play Keane and we are already a man down he’s a disgrace. Dyche sets up to draw every game and when we concede it’s game over. Feel sorry for any true attacking player under this fella.
Dyches teams have never scored many goals so this isn't something new. He always moans about not getting penalties,when his teams don't have many touches in the opposition box.instead of implementing methods of play to attack teams he relies on crosses and individuals to hopefully get on the end of them. Obviously Everton are limited in the transfer market by money but dyche doesn't play attacking football.
Sam Allardyce is available. Everton fans: Norpan, you don't know what you are talking about. We need a better manager. You can' afford a proper striker. Everton is falling apart. Why would anyone go there? You should thank Dyche for wasting his time there. Without him you would be in the Championship.
Same every season "We're going down" Boohoo sack the manager Boohoo, little run of wins settles the paranoia, last game of the season scrape a win to survive. Cue Pitch Invasion.
Could be,bookies actually have City at 6/1 to be relegated, obviously expecting them to be hit with serious sanctions. For perspective, Arsenal and Liverpool are 1000/1 to get relegated
Crazy the Ev!!!! Loved Lampard who was possibly the worst manager they have ever had!!! Every manager becomes the worlds worst!!! Maybe the fans become that toxic inside the ground outside the ground and instead of getting behind the team they hammer them imagine what it must feel like being a player under pressure and The manager!!! They have had decent managers and money to spend but still moan
Villa fan here. I’ve seen the movie before - season after season flirting with relegation.. And I’ll say this, having gone through this at Villa, sometimes things have to break to rebuild.
here here from forest. saw the same movie mate
The difference is we are building a new stadium so the financial implications of getting relegated would be absolutely catastrophic
@@Alfie-ps6ll do you know what, that’s right. I forgot you guys were in the process of that new build.
@@ahblezasellars good advice that man.I’ve always seen villa as a huge club and an essential part of the top flight furniture.don’t like to see big clubs go down .maybe make an acception for Man U and Liverpool 😂
JUST PLAY THE NEW SIGNINGS! it's not rocket science.
Dyche needs to go,He's not the man to take Everton forward ,He's a championship manager at best.
Media give Dyche an easy ride because he's English.
You can't build bricks without straw. Been a fan since '62, not sold on Dyche but given the precarious financial position of the club he's on a hiding to nothing at the moment. Players have options and currently we are on few, if any, players "want to play for them" list. We had 14 first team players fit on Saturday, so it's not looking good.
Efan Ekoku said in the commentary on Saturday we should sign Toney. If we could afford and attract players like that why stop there? Mbappè changed clubs this summer, we should have offered Neal Maupay and asked for £5m in exchange.
And offer him what Saudi are offering?
@@paulos1878 why not double it ?????
Everton need a top manager good auld Sean is a championship manager not too long Everton had Carlo what a difference
They've been flirting with relegation for some time now so why is this a suprise?
2 seasons isn’t some time , we where 2nd at Christmas in 2020
Only the 2nd game and ya'll are panicking. 😂
Times like this you look upon come end of the season and wish you picked a point.
There's nothing like only 2nd game of the season. It's fine margins every game counts
@@gboi264 Looking at the long haul also matters. We went against really good teams these first two games. We will pick up points later on. Panicking after the first few is amateur stuff.
I think for most is just the boring predictable style (if you can call it that) of play we are so easy to play against
3:33 “go get vardy”… it’s not nipping to the supermarket 😂😂 players have a choice and good players don’t wanna come
So your saying Vardy is not good.
@@paulpotter6191how did you come to that conclusion?
If vardy wanted to leave Leicester he would of by now@@paulpotter6191
Why play Calvert lewin when he wants to leave if you don't score goals your defence is under constant pressure.
We need a top manager, someone who can come in like Carlo did and build a squad and philosophy that will take us forward, we haven't had an identity since Carlo and before him it was Martinez, we've struggled for years now fighting relegation and now it looks like it's going to be another season of it, I haven't felt a connection to the club in so long, I've been a fan since I was 7 so that's 23 years I've been an Evertonian and this is the most disconnected I've ever felt, something huge needs to change ASAP, not only do we look lost and can't win a football match but we also can't even attract an owner to come and settle the ship behind the scenes either, it's a complete mess and a constant hangover that's been looming over our heads season upon season and I fear this season will be our final season in the PL
Goal scorers always attract a premium in the market. Goal stopper attract a discount. It is cheaper for a club like Everton with difficult finances to focus on preventing goals than scoring them to maximise the goal difference.
Everton have a striker on the bench called Beto!
Dyche sold Ellis Simms who could score goals
Everton’s tactics, playing style and players are too English.
They play park the bus, kick and rush football. Their players are physical, athletic, not much skills or technicality.
Could have Duran from Villa or Cameron Archer , would have done a job (Villa fan)
Dyche is guilty of his inabilility of knowlage in tactical play formations to cope in modern day football yes you can blame the players but it looks like they have no sense of direction confused in what there doing they train all wk in the tactics and it probebly makes sense to them but on the pitch opposing teams break it down with a blink of the eye in the first 5 min and thats were all hell is let loose because they have got no answers and that is totally down to bad management
I think that Everton should have done a deal with Newcastle for DCL at 30 -35 mil instead of holding out for 40 mil. It is obvious we need a striker. DCL wants Newcastle and is no longer interested. I don't blame him. The way the team is setup to play, who wants to keep chasing long balls all day? Carlo got it right with DCL but telling him to stay in the box not run all over the place. Onana said it was the type of football that made him want out. McNeil is going backwards most of the time. How do we expect to win?
I can Guarantee that Everton will not get relegated.
Everton needs vision
Are you sure you're not Sean Dyche in disguise?
@@jim8837 Why would I be. As Tottenham fan I like Everton. I just feel that the club has been ruined for over two decades. I enjoy when Tottenham and Everton play each other over the years. Too see it where it is today is sad
Sadly
Like a turd that won’t flush
with dyche, moyes and many others it’s not arrogance. it’s limitation, they dont know any better.
Dyche was bought in to prevent counter attacks and to make defenses solid.I don't see Everton be at bottom 3 in May or in relegation battle. It's honestly shocking how badly they played in the first 2 matches. Everton need to create more scoring chance,that what they did decently last season.Also Everton needs more possession imo 19th only ahead of Ipswich Town(in their case I wouldn't blame them counter attacking against Man City and Liverpool).
I know it's early but it really looks like Everton are heading down this time. I mean yeah where are the goals going to come from? Calvert-Lewin? The guy can't stay fit. Maupay? I mean come on really? He may net them a few goals but he isn't gonna keep them up.
It's worse than that tbh he's been fit for while he just doesn't look like the same player and gets next to zilch service and when he does it's under/over hit or played to his weaker foot when he has 3 men on him
As Emlyn Hughes once said.....Liverpool are magic,Everton are tragic.
No sweat Everton always give the rest a 10 point lead every season
@@franki7 and then win nothing ( trophyless) as usual.
Dyche saying the new guys have no pl experience but neither had roman Dixon and he was our best player and Micheal Keane had a good pre season lmao O'Brien was well better Lindstrom hit that free kick and ndiaye was class ,,we are going down
Like Burnley did, Villa, Newcastle etc etc Everton have flirted with relegation season after season.
You do feel like this is their time.
Good point. I would throw Sunderland into the mix as well, because before they dropped down the divisions, they had multiple seasons surviving relegation by the skin of their teeth. Similarly Everton have stunk out the division for some time now, and theres been no progress at all, so it's just a matter of time before the go down.
What good point 😂They finished 11th on points before deductions how is that flirting with relegation 😫
Everton got a six point deduction last season and eventually stayed up with points to spare. This season they are not firing on all cyclinders but surely when they get their best players out there are the new ones are integrated things will turn out fine. The problem I'm not a reactionary so I don't go overboard when the good time arrive either. But lets give creadence to these sour blue noses, who will attack the next manager, if things aren't going the way they want. Probably the same vocal few that got rid of Allerdyce, Kooman, etc. and the board of directors. Patience is a virtue and some of my family who are Everton fans have that in abundance but clearly not the whining keyboarders who probably get upset when their ready-made meals take more than three minutes to prepare and taste like. *****.
@@guillermocongrevesanchez9114seen the video of the guy at Euston station? Deffo some underlying anger issues there with that nut job
We finished 5th a bunch of times under Moyes no one said it was our time for Champions league...you can't judge on previous years
It seems that we are playing slow, analog football in a digital world. Speed of thought and movement is not our thing. We could stay up, but the problem remains...until the manager is changed.
I feel for Sean. He's being given nothing to improve.
He's made a rod for his own back he keeps picking the wrong individuals even when they let him down week after week
@@Efcdan1878 Perhaps.
Am an Evertonian through and through but apparently there still at spurs still trying to score a goal even with the spurs team sat at home on the couch thats how shite Everton are
Time for Shteeeeeve Maclaren!!
You buy bottom 5 standard players, you get bottom 5 football. Come down to the EFL , it’s fun. Get to watch 25-30 wins a season 😂
I agree. As a newcastle fan the most enjoyable seasons over the last 15 years prior to the takeover were the 2 individual seasons spent in the championship. Both seasons ended as champions and we won most of our games, a far cry from losing week in week out. That's why many Norwich fans, West Brom fans, etc... prefer to be in the championship because being rock bottom of the premier league and paying your hard earned money to watch your team lose and fall apart each week is depressing.
@joneve8347 now try doing that when you're at the bottom of the championship we had nearly 25 years of pain of championship relegation battles and couple in league 1 but 3rd season in prem still hard work and not easy watching
@@davidmarchant9386 didn't say it worked for everyone 😜 that's why I didn't included Forest, Leeds, Charlton, etc... in my comment.
@@joneve8347some teams have higher levels and expectations than Newcastle Everton are 9 times league champions that’s more than Tottenham and Newcastle put together
@@agentancelotti2985 how is that relevant to my comment? Everton WERE successful but haven't been a major team in 40 years. Fans can either pay hundreds to watch their team get humiliated week in, week out, or have a season in the championship and enjoy themselves. Ask a Southampton fan which was their most enjoyable season of the last 5 and it would likely be last season because it's better to win most weeks than lose every week.
Why waste £17m on O’Brien too if you ain’t gonna play him and play Keane still or even the young rb Quintyne who started ahead of him on Saturday don’t make any sense especially when he looked decent in pre season… same for Lindstrøm should be starting
He tried to get Keane into the side last year before he had no choice but to bin him after the Villa mauling and he's tried to fool us again ... Stop messing about and get the new CB in sharpish and young RB was Roman Dixon
Maupay tweeted a video of Everton fans waiting for the team at the train station and screaming abuse at the players 😂 what a club.
Maupay is a wage thief !!
What a surprise 😂 shambolic
And they wondered why Gordon wanted out they denied trying overturn his car with him in it
one-two-all. Learn to count before you talk b.s
@@Haakonisak you saying owners and directors weren’t told to stay away last season because of threats ? Including bill kenwroght mr Everton
Caller ignores the fact that Meato Beto is coming along nicely.
He mentioned him very fast and quite but that doesn't fit his narrative
John should be given the Everton job
Johns right man
We see this every year.. everton have deserved to be relegated atleast 5 times in the past 10 years yet always seem to survive
Their manager saved them 2 seasons!!! They dont have any good players to work with!!
Nice stadium though.
Dyche should have been legged last year. Thanks for the service Sean but we need something different now. Moyes is a cut above dyche in every way. He would be the pick on our current lack of resources.
Dyche has surrendered these first 2 games. Unforgivable how stubborn and arrogant the man is
Buy attacking players that we desperately need and don’t play them. Claim lack of PL experience then play Roman Dixon who hadn’t had a sniff previously. Well done to RD by the way.
Play Keane and we are already a man down he’s a disgrace. Dyche sets up to draw every game and when we concede it’s game over. Feel sorry for any true attacking player under this fella.
Not one of the English managers teams won a game at the weekend in premier League that's why these 2 r on the radio 😂
stadium will be ready for the championship
Dyches teams have never scored many goals so this isn't something new.
He always moans about not getting penalties,when his teams don't have many touches in the opposition box.instead of implementing methods of play to attack teams he relies on crosses and individuals to hopefully get on the end of them.
Obviously Everton are limited in the transfer market by money but dyche doesn't play attacking football.
One thing is certain....Everton have to beat Bournmouth in the next L game....a draw is not enough...lose two home games on the run spells relegation
Why look into championship for players🤔 be playing in the championship👍 problem sorted 😂😂
Go watch dream
Hopefully Leicester and Man City get deducted points like we did, there’s a chance of us staying up then 😂😂
Hes a moyes,allerdyce clone.
Clueless. Another dinosaur defender manager clearly devoid of tactics of modern game.
everton should try get toney on loan
Just sack Dyche now
If you keep on buying players from relegated teams , you end up with a relegation team
Your new ground will look nice in the Championship 😂
Everton can't score goals why not play maupay go with something different just a thought 😢😢😢
Jamie vard y s going straight back down
There recruiting is woeful,sack Thelwell now and his crew and also who gave Holgate nearly 18 million pound contract😢😢
Dyche getting called a kopite 😂😂😂, they’ve lost the plot
He’s a Liverpool fan.
@@eddie_1878 is he? I honestly didn’t know that, I thought the fan was just taking the pish
We need moyies coybb
Dyche can only play negative tactics
Comedy gold.
😂😂😂😂
YNWA
Simple. Stop playing grandads
Great manager it’s the club that’s rubbish there bought Manchester United rubbish for 30 year just to go against Liverpool
Agent dyche
everton need to understand , where and what they are, they are a relegation battling prem team , its as simple as that !
DCL😂😂😂
Sam Allardyce is available.
Everton fans: Norpan, you don't know what you are talking about. We need a better manager.
You can' afford a proper striker. Everton is falling apart. Why would anyone go there? You should thank Dyche for wasting his time there. Without him you would be in the Championship.
Same every season "We're going down" Boohoo sack the manager Boohoo, little run of wins settles the paranoia, last game of the season scrape a win to survive. Cue Pitch Invasion.
Everton won’t go down! Sure!
Everton, Wolves and Man City will be the teams relegated this season
Haha go watch dream
Could be,bookies actually have City at 6/1 to be relegated, obviously expecting them to be hit with serious sanctions. For perspective, Arsenal and Liverpool are 1000/1 to get relegated
The last two years Everton stayed up by the wrapper of the toffee. This year they are going down
Crazy the Ev!!!! Loved Lampard who was possibly the worst manager they have ever had!!! Every manager becomes the worlds worst!!! Maybe the fans become that toxic inside the ground outside the ground and instead of getting behind the team they hammer them imagine what it must feel like being a player under pressure and
The manager!!! They have had decent managers and money to spend but still moan
Everton need to go😅