Ep234: Dzogchen Valley - Aro gTér Sangha
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- Опубликовано: 1 июн 2024
- In this episode I travel to deepest of Wales to visit Drala Jong, the headquarters and retreat centre of the Aro gTér sect of Tibetan Buddhism.
I first interviewed the leaders of the sect, Ngakchang Rinpoche and Khandro Déchen, several years ago in an intimate interview in their home during which they recounted the origin of their treasure-revealed lineage and discussed subjects such as crazy wisdom, mahasiddhas, and compassion as appreciation.
In this episode, Ngakchang Rinpoche and Khandro Déchen give a tour of the grounds of Drala Jong, discuss the esoteric geomancy of the site, and reveal the methods used to identify and propitiate the local spirit of the land.
Ngakchang Rinpoche and Khandro Déchen detail the methods and practices of the Aro gTér, guide practice sessions in the Dzogchen meditation of sky gazing and other techniques, and tell stories of their lamas such as Kunzang Dorje Rinpoche, Chimé Rigdzin Rinpoche, Dudjom Rinpoche, and more.
I also meet the ordained caretakers of the centre, witness the sangha in their daily rituals of chanting and song, and receive a lesson in their physical movement system of Kum Nye from lineage specialist Sang-gyé A-tsal.
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Topics Include:
00:00 - Intro
01:23 - Tour of the grounds
04:01 - Geomancy of the site
05:07 - Appeasing the land spirits
10:17 - The right wing
13:47 - Plans for a statue of Dudjom Rinpoche
17:31 - Plans for the left wing
25:37 - The requirements and procedure of Aro gTér ordination
32:57 - Pilgrimage and normalising Vajrayana religion
35:38 - The main house
42:57 - The shrine room
45:59 - Ritual practice at Drala Jong
46:56 - Range of Aro gTér practices
48:16 - Shiné vs śāmatha
51:19 - The 4 Naljors and approaching Dzogchen
56:20 - Practices of shiné and lhagtong
59:44 - Showing the ritual objects, statues, and thangkas
01:11:08 - Attention to detail and creating a lineage place
01:14:05 - The role of personal shrine rooms and care for ritual objects
01:16:35 - Caring for people
01:18:19 - Weapon collection
01:24:57 - Role of prostrations
01:26:13 - Ngakchang Rinpoche’s reflections on his 70th birthday
01:28:17 - Drala and the practice of relating the natural world
01:31:30 - Why Wales is good for Dzogchen practice
01:35:48 - Ancient woodland
01:37:36 - The caretakers Jagyür and Métsal
01:39:52 - Tour of Jagyür and Métsal’s accommodation
01:44:21 - Living at Drala Jong
01:45:36 - Daily practice regime
01:48:35 - Recent ordination of disciples
01:50:52 - Ngakpa vs Naljorpa ordination
01:52:21 - Origins of Aro gTér ordination lineages
01:54:05 - Weather making for Chime Rinpoche
01:58:31 - Lunchtime song
01:59:54 - Ngakchang Rinpoche gives sky gazing instruction (namkha arte)
02:04:52 - The 21 semdzin of Dzogchen
02:08:28 - Reflecting on having a retreat centre after 30 years
02:09:40 - Meditation on sound
02:10:56 - On the practice of retreat
02:13:06 - 3 part approach and the practice of suspension
02:16:12 - Markers of progress in spiritual practice
02:20:10 - A story of Dungse Thinley Norbu Rinpoche
02:21:48 - Anecdote about Dzogchen shouts
02:22:42 - Dreams of Dudjom Rinpoche
02:24:52 - Sang-gyé A-tsal introduces Kum Nye
02:27:29 - Steve receives a Kum Nye lesson
02:31:42 - Post exercise meditation
02:32:50 - Prowling Tiger
02:34:33 - Rising Eagle
02:35:44 - Walking Lion
02:38:18 - Further thoughts on Kum Nye
02:39:04 - Earth Lion Ying'khor
02:43:10 - Space Garuda
02:46:26 - The drinking song of Dudjom Rinpoche
02:49:19 - Wine drinking mudra of Chimé Rigdzin Rinpoche
02:50:41 - Is Dzogchen a religion?
02:52:51 - Taking Dzogchen out of Buddhism
02:56:21 - Imitating culture
02:59:05 - Religion is ‘bigger than me’
03:00:52 - Providing community
03:02:53 - Belonging to a sangha
03:05:26 - Organised religion
03:06:12 - Structure and rules
03:09:46 - Starting new religions vs being part of a lineage
03:11:48 - Unthinking use of language
03:13:23 - The value of being contained by religion
03:14:38 - Inspiration between teacher and student
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Previous episodes with the Aro gTer:
- • Aro gTer
To find out more about Drala Jong, visit:
- www.drala-jong.org/
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- www.guruviking.com
Music ‘Deva Dasi’ by Steve James 
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Thank you for taking your time with this one and allowing for the slow and detailed pace of conversation. The powerfully compassionate activities of Rinpoche and Khandro Dechen is showcased beautifully in this video! May they live long, healthy, prosperous lives and may the Aro lineage continue strongly in integrity for many years!
Hi Steve. I remember the first interview you did at their home and now seeing this one. This is the best format for interviews. It becomes alive in a whole new way. Thumbs up :)
Fabulous! Thank you so very much. This is such a wonderful introduction to the Aro gTér, Dzogchen and the beautiful possibilities of Drala Jong. Of course, it all arises out of the fierce kindness and direct manifestation of Ngak’chang Rinpoche and Khandro Déchen. A Ho: Wonderful!
nice kum nye demonstrations. thx for sharing all this.
This version of the seven line prayer is so neat!
Nice to have an overview of Drala Jong. I hope to be able to visit when life allows.
Wonderful Teachers, Love them. 🙏❤️🙏
What an excellent video. So much interesting material, and the conversations are very intimate. Thank you very much indeed.
Fantastic video of a magical place, thank you very much indeed
Thanks for the interview!
Beautiful ‘western’ Ngakpa dharma culture. Please do a video with the first Thai ngakpa sangha one day! Siam Vajrayana.
Steve, I just want to extend my praise for another wonderful podcast! Really enjoyed the pace of this one and, of course learned more than a few new things. High marks all round, Thanks again....
Thank you! I really enjoyed the natural pace and style of this interview. It was a lovely introduction to many aspects of this tradition and its new Buddhist centre. I really enjoyed taking my time with it and watching it over a week or so in small sittings.
Thank you very much for an excellent and in-depth video on uniquely profound topics.
Such a beautiful place to be of a good service
Excellent work Guru Viking!
I like the hat very much.
Great hat.
Brilliant 🎉
Thank you.
Wonderful video, thank you so much ❤
Wonderful ❤
Fascinating...
I wonder if the shape of the hammer is so it can be used as a splitting wedge for wood. I thoroughly enjoyed this 🙏❤️🙏
Very appreciated
🙏🏻🌈🌺💐🌸🌼💐 🌈 🙏🏻✨
🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🪷🪷🪷💎💎💎
какие приятные пенсионеры с этим пленэром, вином и дзогченом )))
Nice to know there's somewhere for mendicant Vajrayana practitioners, a permanent encampment might not be a traditional gar, though perhaps that's appropriate, it would appear that kindness is also 'non-traditional' sometimes, certainly the land seems to be too beginninglessly pure for scruffy sorts 😂
Fame and infamy indeed!
Sorry for the tree
So many trees getting cut everywhere…..strange we’re meant to be saving them
Absolutely, Drala Jong has an extensive area of old woodland which is cherished and which great care is being taken of. th
There has been considerable tree planting in other areas of the property focusing on indigenous trees, with much more planting to come.
The shooting of this video was some months ago, since then it has become highly likely that the chestnut tree will be kept, everyone loves it very much.
Best wishes,
Naljorma Tsül'dzin (I help with fundraising for Drala Jong)
Trim it ..I think the roots will stop spreading ...good for you ..a nice shady place in summer...if Wales gets a summer. I think someone you once described as particularly nasty has hold on me ..he appears as and I jumped near ...ish...to get to find out what the hell ..want to come and see you ...hope you get this ...wonderful abilities of said particularly but some issues ..would like advice ..any chance from you in Wales . Thank you. 🪔☮️🎂💎🌠🌆
Drala Jong has planted almost 2,000 trees in the last year
Managde does have preliminaries... semdzin, rushen and lojon
Advice on Dzogchen Men-ngag-dé differs according to Lama and lineage. The practices you mention are from Dzogchen Men-ngag-dé apart from Lojong - which is Sutra
@@doctogden-dt1uv of course I'm talking about the 7th lojong of the vima nyintik, not mahayana lojong.
Semdzin, rushen and lojong all come from the 17 tantras of dzogchen upadesha. Teachers might emphasize some practices or others but to say upadesha doesnt have preliminaries is not correct. In fact I dont know any cycle that doesnt include some form of rushen (there might be tho).
@@doctogden-dt1uv unless that what he meant is that his particular menangde cycle doesnt include preliminaries. Maybe that was it?
What 😭😅
LOL. That guy is not a reincarnation of Do Khyentse, but of at maximum Do Khyentse's horse. Certainly not a terton and not a teacher of authentic dharma/vajrayana/dzogchen. The whole Aro posse is not authentic tantric buddhism but teaches some made up new age teachings vaguely resembling tantric buddhism.
Nothing is said about Ngak’chang Rinpoche being an incarnation of DoKhyentsé Yeshé Dorje. The other comments are merely abusive.
@@doctogden-dt1uv It's what he claims elsewhere. To be a terton you have to be the reincarnation of one of the 25 disciples of Padmasambhava. By claiming to be a terton you claim to be a tulku of one of these 25.
There is a reason why absolutely NO Nyingma lineage holder has verified his claim that he is a tulku and a vajraynaa lineage holder. Because his teachings are made up and bogus.
This seems to be the recycling of abusive internet material. Ngak’chang Rinpoche and Khandro Dechen are well supported by major Dudjom Lamas - so to write these comments is merely aggressive for no good reason.
@@doctogden-dt1uv There are still renowned lamas working with Ole Nydahl, hell there were lineage lamas that still worked with the pedophile abuser cult leader Robert Spatz. That Ngakchang guy has nothing to transmit except his own made up new age inventions. He seems to be a nice enough person, but that doesn't turn him into someone who can transmit something that can be used to attain liberation.
@@doctogden-dt1uv no, they are not supported as teachers by Dudjom Lamas, I know this as a practitioner within Dudjom Tersar tradition, having discussed the issue of Ngak’phang (formerly - presently Ngak’chang) and Aro with several senior lamas of the tradition in private. In general the duo is considered as clowns and curiosity, some consider them to be outright fake tertons. Also Doc Togdeng is one of Ngak’chang’s names, so singing your own praises, Mr. Togden? Also the interpretation of certain Tibetan terms by mr. Ngak’chang is hilarious and shows how little he actually knows about dzogchen teachings, especially semde and actual dzogchen ngondros :D